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Tuesday, November 06, 2018

In the run-up to the U.S. midterm elections, we speak with world-renowned linguist, dissident and author Noam Chomsky. "What are the domestic policies of the Trump administration?" Chomsky says. "Very straightforward: lavish gifts on the rich, powerful corporate sector and try to undermine and destroy anything that might be of benefit to the general population."

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"Nevertheless, overwhelmingly, the Republican Party is simply a major threat to -- not only to the country, but to human survival. I've said in the past that I think they're the most dangerous organization in human history, on the issue of climate change alone, and I think that's worth repeating."

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Noam goes over the top and, once again, makes himself irrelevant and I'm a liberal. Let's start with climate change, is any policy of a nation that has 350 million people going to alter the climate as much as a nation that has 2 billion people? Get real Noum. Me thinks he and others try to stay relevant but they are actually relics from the past.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2018-11-06 07:51 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Senile old Chumpsky needs to retire before embarrassing himself any further.

#3 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-06 07:58 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Noam's done good things and written important books, but at the point that he gets no attention on the DR in the run-up to the Most Importantest Midterm Election Like, Literally, EVAR, which WAPO and Huffington Post and other ideologically-aligned outlets coordinated to say that this would be the case...

#1 | POSTED BY HEINRICH

Why does it matter that Chomsky "gets no attention on the DR"? If he writes important books as you say, then all that matters is content and the ideas behind them.

#4 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-11-06 07:58 AM | Reply

is any policy of a nation that has 350 million people going to alter the climate as much as a nation that has 2 billion people?

Ummmmm when we drive our consumerist life style by having them produce crap cheaply without environmental regulations, yeah we could.

Not only by cutting our own contributions here but also by losing the sense of entitlement we have over living the high life for cheap (well, cheap for us).

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2018-11-06 08:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Senile old Chumpsky needs to retire before embarrassing himself any further.

#3 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Physician, heal thyself!

#6 | Posted by jpw at 2018-11-06 08:51 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Bwahaha!

#7 | Posted by pacman116 at 2018-11-06 08:58 AM | Reply

#2 | Posted by danni

Actually he's spot on about climate change. It is true the USA is 2nd in the world in CO2 pollution behind China. China has twice as much but 4 times the population. It's the behavior of this country and it's people that drive pollution globally. It's the size of our economy, how we behave and who we outsourced all our dirty manufacturing to. We are the most entitled population in the world and per capita have more vehicles and consume more energy than anyone else. We have moved away from public transportation as a country and love our sprawl.

I'm not saying I don't enjoy my entitled life but lets be honest about it.

#8 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-11-06 09:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Our Government and its Corporate sponsors are pathological liars. Their lies are driven by greed and the thirst for power. Elsberg with the Pentagon papers proves this sad fact and the revelations provided by Assange and Snowden make it clear that lying remains our standard operating procedure. Lack of accurate information renders any notion of a functional democracy moot.

Noam Chomsky is a walking encyclopedia of historical facts that exposes the lies of our Government and its Corporate sponsors. Chomsky is well known and respected throughout the world, but his factual analysis is kept out of the mainstream media in the USA, other neo-liberal countries and dictatorships. Chomsky's mastery of political facts is made possible because of a wealth of information available to those willing to search outside the mainstream media. Chomsky is the genius inventor of the field of linguistics which earned him a distinguished tenured professorship at MIT. It was only from this tenured position that he is able to safely tread where most Americans dare not tread for fear of economic and social isolation.

#9 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-11-06 10:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Chumpsky is crazy. Anyone who would say that Republicans are more worse than Stalin's communist party, or Hitler's Nazi party, or Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge deserves to be laughed off the public stage.

#10 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-06 11:01 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Chumpsky is crazy.

Nazifidian, you are crazy.

Anyone who would say that Republicans are more worse than Stalin's communist party, or Hitler's Nazi party, or Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge deserves to be laughed off the public stage.

You forgot to mention Lenin and Trotsky and all the other names you like to drop to convince yourself you're not a fkkking moron.

As far as Hitler's Nazi party, find a mirror.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-06 11:05 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

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Chumpsky is crazy. Anyone who would say that Republicans are more worse than Stalin's communist party, or Hitler's Nazi party, or Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge deserves to be laughed off the public stage.

#10 | Posted by nullifidian

CHUMPSKY was against vietnam, the drug war, the iraq war, and wall street deregulation.

Repubs were opposed to him on all of those.

Who was right?

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-11-06 11:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Chomsky has an estimated IQ of close to 200, one of the most brilliant minds on the planet.

Null Set, otoh, has the IQ of Sniper with a hangover.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2018-11-06 11:20 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Chomsky was a major Pol Pot apologist.

#14 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-11-06 11:22 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Chumpsky is crazier than Travis Bickle. He probably poses in a front of a mirror saying "you talking to me?"

#15 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-06 11:24 AM | Reply

#14

Just another rwing meme that has been destroyed many times.

www.nytimes.com

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2018-11-06 11:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--Chomsky was a major Pol Pot apologist.

And now he lies about it.

#17 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-06 11:25 AM | Reply

Straight out of his mouth in this interview:

"I've said in the past that I think they're the most dangerous organization in human history,"

What an utter lack of perspective and historical context. Chumpsky? Yeah, that works.

#18 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-11-06 11:25 AM | Reply

#17

Still lying. See #16. People who were there know you have the IQ of Trump... and a hickey from him, too.

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2018-11-06 11:26 AM | Reply

www.nytimes.com--EDWARD S. HERMAN Philadelphia

Hahahaha. One of Chumpsky's chief collaborators. Of course he lies about Chumpsky.

#20 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-06 11:28 AM | Reply

#18

As far as this country is concerned, they are. You just watched them over the last decade invade the wrong country, push us into a great recession, and now they are spending money like a drunken GW once again.

All while appealing to the most base racist fears of under-educated white people... like {}.

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2018-11-06 11:29 AM | Reply

#20

Still lying.

"I mean the great act of genocide in the modern period is Pol Pot, 1975 through 1978 - that atrocity - I think it would be hard to find any example of a comparable outrage and outpouring of fury and so on and so forth." -- Noam Chomsky, in the documentary "Manufacturing Consent," 1993.

From the 1993 documentary Manufacturing Consent.

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2018-11-06 11:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Republicans destroyed the Kansas economy

How is that for Historical Context

#23 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-11-06 11:40 AM | Reply

Republicans created the biggest recession in American history, then did it again in 2006

How is that for Historical Context

#24 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-11-06 11:42 AM | Reply

Republicans destroyed the Kansas economy
How is that for Historical Context
#23 | POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES

"Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Marx!"
-Smartifidian

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-06 11:44 AM | Reply

Republicans gave the Middle East an ecological and humanitarian hellhole, and blew over two trillion American tax dollars doing it

How is that for Historical Context

#26 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-11-06 11:44 AM | Reply

Republicans gave the Middle East an ecological and humanitarian hellhole, and blew over two trillion American tax dollars doing it
How is that for Historical Context
POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES

"Arafat, Saddam, Gaddafi, Khomeini!"
-MiddleEastifidian

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-06 11:48 AM | Reply

A republican shot up women wearing yoga pants

Only a republican would do that

#HistoricalContext

#28 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-11-06 11:51 AM | Reply

--Manufacturing Consent," 1993.

Chumpsky lied in 1993 about his lies in 1973 when Pol Pot was in power. And now he lies about the GOP. Always the liar. As Mary McCarthy said about Lillian Hellman, "every word she[he] writes is a lie, including "and" and "the."

#29 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-06 11:54 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

LMAO, Corky cites an article by Edward Herman, who was desperately trying to cover both their asses for being, at the very least, incredibly naive about the Khmer Rouge when they were jointly writing about and defending Pol Pot and then follows it with Noam himself trying to focus on the forest he perceived through the lens of history after talking about how beautiful the homicidal trees were.

"I mean the great act of genocide in the modern period is Pol Pot, 1975 through 1978 - that atrocity - I think it would be hard to find any example of a comparable outrage and outpouring of fury and so on and so forth." -- Noam Chomsky, in the documentary "Manufacturing Consent," 1993.(1)

How did a man who describes the Khmer Rouge regime as "the great act of genocide of the modern period" come to be vilified as a vocal supporter of Pol Pot?

The underdogs, however, are not always the good guys, a fact clearly illustrated by the Khmer Rouge. The question of whether or not Noam Chomsky supported the Khmer Rouge is not as clear as either his critics or his defenders would like to pretend. His critics frequently extract a handful of quotes from "Distortions at Fourth Hand" or After the Cataclysm and suggest that Chomsky was an enthusiastic advocate for the Cambodian communists. His defenders, meanwhile, limit their collections of quotes to Chomsky's disclaimers and qualifiers, conveniently ignoring the underlying theme of his articles: that Khmer Rouge Cambodia was not nearly as bad as the regime's detractors claimed.

There is something vaguely unsettling in Chomsky's words, even as he acknowledges the horrible toll of the Cambodian communists: There was an atrocity, people were outraged, so on and so forth, blah blah blah. The reaction is Chomsky's primary concern; genocide itself is a lesser point.

A peculiar irony is at the heart of this controversy: Noam Chomsky, the man who has spent years analyzing propaganda, is himself a propagandist. Whatever one thinks of Chomsky in general, whatever one thinks of his theories of media manipulation and the mechanisms of state power, Chomsky's work with regard to Cambodia has been marred by omissions, dubious statistics, and, in some cases, outright misrepresentations. On top of this, Chomsky continues to deny that he was wrong about Cambodia. He responds to criticisms by misrepresenting his own positions, misrepresenting his critics' positions, and describing his detractors as morally lower than "neo-Nazis and neo-Stalinists."(2) Consequently, his refusal to reconsider his words has led to continued misinterpretations of what really happened in Cambodia.

Cambodia, Beauty and Darkness: AVERAGING WRONG ANSWERS:
NOAM CHOMSKY AND THE CAMBODIA CONTROVERSY

#30 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-11-06 12:02 PM | Reply

Chumpsky has never heard of a red he didn't like or a non-red he didn't hate. I read a couple of his books, a long time ago. I thought that he lost his credibility with the left when he said that the 9-11 attacks were not an inside job.

#31 | Posted by docnjo at 2018-11-06 12:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I especially thought this was fitting as it describes a certain THC Oil Baron that we all have to endure on a daily basis:

"He responds to criticisms by misrepresenting his own positions, misrepresenting his critics' positions, and describing his detractors as morally lower than "neo-Nazis and neo-Stalinists."

Who knew that we had our own Noam Corksky amongst us...

#32 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-11-06 12:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

--he said that the 9-11 attacks were not an inside job.

Perhaps the only issue Chumpsky is less crazy than ConspiracyShack.

#33 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-06 12:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"What are the domestic policies of the Trump administration?" Chomsky says. "Very straightforward: lavish gifts on the rich, powerful corporate sector and try to undermine and destroy anything that might be of benefit to the general population."

"I approve of this!"

Jeff,Nulli,RoC,Sheeple,etc...

Keep up with your party line voting. This is literally all you're voting for.

Oh. And conservative judges. Which should help turn America into an archaic shht hole.

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-06 12:16 PM | Reply

Perhaps the only issue Chumpsky is less crazy than ConspiracyShack.

"Soros! PizzaGate! Pelosi! Benghaziiiiiii!"
-Tardifidian

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-06 12:19 PM | Reply

Jeff,Nulli,RoC,Sheeple,etc...

Keep up with your party line voting. This is literally all you're voting for."

Funny that all 4 of those posters voted 3rd party in 2016.

#36 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-06 12:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Keep up with your party line voting. This is literally all you're voting for.

I'm pretty sure that you voted party line, but I sure didn't.

#37 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-11-06 12:22 PM | Reply

Funny that all 4 of those posters voted 3rd party in 2016.
#36 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Who cares about 2016.

You've been boasting about voting party line Republican for a while now. In the present, 2018.

You fkkkiing moron.

Go shove you're head further up Trump's Rump.

#38 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-06 12:24 PM | Reply

#10 | Posted by nullifidian

It's where the party is leading us that matters. And don't say the Alt-Right Neo-Nazis are just a fringe. They represent the views of many of those that vote Republican - probably 15-20% of this country and to a lessor degree about 35%. Do everyone a favor and educate yourself on Hitler's brown shirts and remember many Jews supported Hitler early on too. Even good people fall for propaganda and rhetoric.

#39 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-11-06 12:27 PM | Reply

- Always the liar.

Yes, it's your Trump MO these days.

- at the very least, incredibly naive about the Khmer Rouge

Says the 20/20 hindsight specialist.

btw... does Nulli pay you in used rubles to defend all the stupid ---- he says on these pages, or are you still doing that pro bozo?

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2018-11-06 01:01 PM | Reply

Chumpsky is crazier than Travis Bickle. He probably poses in a front of a mirror saying "you talking to me?"

#15 | Posted by nullifidian

That CRAZY person was right on vietname, the drug war, the iraq war, and wall street deregulation.

If he's crazy, what does that make the republicans who SUPPORTED all that stupidity?

#41 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-11-06 01:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Come to think of it, what has the republican party been RIGHT about in the past 70 years?

#42 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-11-06 01:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Corky provides a direct quote from Chomsky.
RoC provides a series of unsubstantiated conclusions from one author and a lengthy link which suggests Chomsky changed his mind over time about the Khmer Rouge. Otherwise the article recognizes the unusual insights which Chomsky always brings to the table. .." a very astute analysis. Chomsky accurately predicted the repercussions of Sihanouk's alliance with the rebels".
In an apparent criticism the author states: "Chomsky excels at illuminating crimes... but only the crimes of the right villains." Chomsky writes, quite rightly, "The misery and destruction for which Nixon and Kissinger bear direct responsibility are crimes that can never be forgotten." He then continues: "By the impulse it has given to the revolutionary forces, this vicious attack may have also prepared the ground, as some observers believe, not only for national liberation but also for a new era of economic development and social justice."
So here, in this single last sentence in an otherwise glowing review of Chomsky's insights, we finally learn that Chomsky, like Einstein, was wrong about something and later had to change his mind.
BFD

To which I would add the favorable views of the US military and its leadership are so widespread in this country that Chomsky's focus on our own culpability in war crimes is required to bring a fair and balanced perspective to the big picture like an outside neutral observer might see. The Khmer Rouge are terrible. The USA has most certainly killed more innocent children than the Khmer Rouge. But we do it from greater distance with always some plausible deniability built into the official storyline.

#43 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-11-06 08:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

According to a new environmental impact statement, administration officials privately acknowledge that we are on course for a cataclysmic temperature increase of 7 degrees Fahrenheit by the end of the century. What's worse, the White House appears entirely resigned to the planet's fate, even opening up the Arctic for offshore drilling.
For this reason alone, Noam Chomsky considers the president and his Republican enablers to be "criminally insane."

www.truthdig.com

#44 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-11-07 12:49 PM | Reply

Why run Chomsky stories? Hardly anyone pays attention to him.
#irrelevant

#45 | Posted by e1g1 at 2018-11-07 06:57 PM | Reply

the Rethuglicans were always here in one form or another, which gives them the prize.
Chomsky is correct.
and yes we have had Chomsky here.

--frikkin losers.

#46 | Posted by ichiro at 2018-11-08 05:14 AM | Reply

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