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A disabled veteran in Houston took to his Facebook page to post a photo of the "voter suppression" he faced when he arrived to vote early on Tuesday and found an MSNBC news crew blocking access to the handicapped-accessible parking spots. "Went to vote, and found this waiting for us. The only van accessible spot and they're filming in it," James Berrie wrote, who uses a wheelchair after his service in the Air Force. "We asked them to move, pointed out how it was wrong, then went to vote, because it takes time to load up. But came out and still there. Not even packing up, still getting ready for their shot."

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The MSNBC's Anchor's apology is in the comments. Calling this voter suppression is ridiculous. Bad judgement yes, intentionally preventing anyone from voting no. When Avigdore starts posting about the real voter suppression techniques practiced by Republicans in many states that do prevent millions of registered voters for exercising their right to vote I might then have a little more respect for his opinion. But this, is just partisan hackery.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2018-11-05 08:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Pointing out activity making it harder for people to vote is now partisan activity? What any odd idea.

#2 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-11-05 10:14 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

This is what Republicans point to as "voter suppression" while ignoring crap like what's going on in GA?

I guess it's the closest thing they have to "voter suppression" they can find. Oh dear "MSNBC engages in Voter Suppression!" Seriously?

"We made the wrong call today by using a disabled parking spot for our live shot in TX. There's no excuse. I apologize to the two people who were on their way to vote as it's one of the most important parts of our democracy; we'd never want to jeopardize anyone's ability to do so" - Mariana Atencio

Wrong decision, and more class in her apology than we'd ever see from any Trumper.

#3 | Posted by YAV at 2018-11-05 11:11 AM | Reply

"the "voter suppression" he faced"

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha!

Humpty Dumpty strikes again.

#4 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-05 11:12 AM | Reply

This is what Republicans point to as "voter suppression" while ignoring crap like what's going on in GA?

You are right, of course. It really isn't fair to compare MSNBC's illegal activity with the lawfully actions of the duly elected representatives of the good people of Georgia.

#5 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-11-05 11:28 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

"lawfully actions of the duly elected representatives"

That sounds like if you control the legislature, your morals can take the term off.

Meanwhile, feel free to explain how 70% of the denials are black folks in a state with a 30% black population.

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-05 11:42 AM | Reply

Good lord, you've positively whacko. Even the offended party let this go and said "this is something he faces every day."

#7 | Posted by YAV at 2018-11-05 11:43 AM | Reply

That sounds like projection if you control the legislature, your morals can take the term off.
Meanwhile, feel free to explain how 70% of the denials are black folks in a state with a 30% black population.

#6 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2018-11-05 11:42 AM

Ok, I feel free.

#8 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-11-05 11:48 AM | Reply

While you're explaining things so poorly, you can also strike through and ignore the two Court rulings against Kemp on voter suppression matters just last week. Lawful my a**.

#9 | Posted by YAV at 2018-11-05 11:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"That sounds like projection"

WTF? Just deflection? I guess you can't address the actual issue of how 70% of denials went to only 30% of the population.

"I feel fine"

Sure, once you've crossed out everything to do with your morals.

#10 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-05 11:53 AM | Reply

#10 - There was a time when cognitive dissonance would cause someone to reexamine what they were thinking, or believed in. That's gone. Now conflicting information is just removed. No conflict to deal with that way.

#11 | Posted by YAV at 2018-11-05 11:59 AM | Reply

#11

You have to admit, it's a perfect metaphor for today's Republican: just 86 your morals, and you'll feel fine.

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-05 12:00 PM | Reply

The actual issue here is MSNBC's actions which are inconveniencing vulnerable voters, which is voter suppression in this day and age. But I recognize that you world prefer to whataboutism the topic

#13 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-11-05 12:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Who are you quoting with your "I feel fine", by the way?

#14 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-11-05 12:02 PM | Reply

"inconveniencing vulnerable voters, which is voter suppression in this day and age."

Oh Good God, this is too, too precious.

MSNBC inconveniencing one voter: Vulnerable voters being suppressed!

GA's SoS purposely and specifically targeting tens of thousands of blacks for disenfranchisement: Just following the law, ma'am!

#15 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-05 12:04 PM | Reply

""I feel fine""

Apologies: "I feel free." That was my error.

Not that it changes the bottom line one iota: Once you get rid of morals, you feel free.

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-05 12:06 PM | Reply

Whataboutism all you have?
MSNBC inconvinienced one person who felt strongly enough to make an issue of it, and an unknown number, who may or may not have been able to vote, who lacked the ability to make their complaints known.

#17 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-11-05 12:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You felt the need to give me permission to engage in your whataboutism. I chose not to do so, but acknowledged that I was free to do so. You really need to walk back your IMAX activities

#18 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-11-05 12:12 PM | Reply

"and an unknown number, who may or may not have been able to vote"

Oh, no. We're not playing your "Let's all pretend we're stupid" game again.

If you want me to condemn MSNBC for parking in a handicapped spot, I do. If you're wanting to call this "voter suppression", or pretend it somehow equates to disenfranchising tens of thousands of voters, you couldn't be more full of ----.

Ultimately, if you want to prove you actually care about this issue, and aren't just pettifogging, address how 70% of the GA denials were for 30% of the populous.

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-05 12:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Once again, I am not engaging in your whayaboutism and deflection. I posted on the topic of MSNBC's voter suppression activities.

#20 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-11-05 12:30 PM | Reply

"I posted on the topic of MSNBC's voter suppression activities."

Activities? As in multiple? Do you have links to the other times, or is this like the lone handicapped voter you pluralized above?

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-05 12:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Once again, I am not engaging in your whayaboutism and deflection"

You already have, when you defaulted to 'just following the laws'. Now you're just caught, because you can't explain how 70% of denials happened to 30% of the population.

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-05 12:44 PM | Reply

The activities of multiple MSNBC employees would be MSNBC voter suppression activities. yes. Happy to clear that up for you.

#23 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-11-05 12:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

I've decided you have to be trolling. That's the only thing that makes sense.

#24 | Posted by YAV at 2018-11-05 02:50 PM | Reply

Avigdore wins the alt-right Snowflake is the day award.
You're such a pathetic putz!

#26 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-11-06 01:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Avigdore wins the alt-right Snowflake is the day award.
You're such a pathetic putz!"

Exactly right. Avigdore is Goatman. I still believe it because he uses the same tactics of finding a detail, like the parking space MSNBC used and pretending it is the equivalent of preventing millions of Americans from exercising their right to vote.

#28 | Posted by danni at 2018-11-06 10:46 AM | Reply

How much voter suppression, like MSNBC is engaged I here, is ok for you, Danni?

#29 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-11-06 10:56 AM | Reply

Apparently, ABigBore doesn't know what voter suppression is.

And has his panties in a bunch over nothing.

Typical Republican tactic.

Keep swinging, stupid.

You got nothing.

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-06 11:02 AM | Reply

"The activities of multiple MSNBC employees would be MSNBC voter suppression activities. yes."

So a violation that would go to one person somehow creates multiple violators?

How pathetically desperate can you get?

#31 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-06 11:03 AM | Reply

The news crew parked in a handicap parking spot!

That's voter suppression!!

That's all Republicans got. And their going to scream bloody fkkking murder.

Like ABigWhore. Who has nothing. But b*tch*ng.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-06 11:08 AM | Reply

You all don't agree that inconveniencing voters, making it harder for them to cast their vote for example, is suppressing their vote?

#33 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-11-06 11:23 AM | Reply

#33

No. It's inconveniencing a voter, nothing more. Oh and a parking violation, for which the perpetrator -- singular -- should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

But voter SUPPRESSION? Not on your life.

#34 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-06 11:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You all don't agree that inconveniencing voters, making it harder for them to cast their vote for example, is suppressing their vote?

#33 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

They do if it involves having to show ID to vote.

#35 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-11-06 11:27 AM | Reply

"having to show ID to vote."

EXACTLY. Just like you have to have ID to exercise other rights, like free speech and freedom of assembly.

#36 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-06 11:29 AM | Reply

You all don't agree that inconveniencing voters, making it harder for them to cast their vote for example, is suppressing their vote?
#33 | POSTED BY ABIGDORK

They do if it involves having to show ID to vote.
#35 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

You two are morons. Simple as it gets.

You're comparing 1 parking space vs hundreds and thousands of people being denied their right to vote.

And by the way. The handicapped person in the article, VOTED.

I know ABigWhore is too stupid to know what voter suppression actually means.

But. Looks like JeffyLube is here for her.

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-06 11:34 AM | Reply

No. It's inconveniencing a voter, nothing more. Oh and a parking violation, for which the perpetrator -- singular -- should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. But voter SUPPRESSION? Not on your life. - #34 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-06 11:27 AM |

According the article, 'a crew' set up in the parking lot. While I suppose that it is possible that it was a crew of 1, I'm sure that you find that as unlikely as I do.
And I'm saddened to hear that you've pulled back from the bastion of Democratic voter suppression claims that making it more difficult to vote, say moving voting to a less convenient location, is an example of voter suppression.

#38 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-11-06 11:43 AM | Reply

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-06 11:34 AM
If you ever get done posting childish insults, would you care to address the question:
Is actively making it harder for voters to actually vote an act of voter suppression or isn't it?

#39 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-11-06 11:45 AM | Reply

Is actively making it harder for voters to actually vote an act of voter suppression or isn't it?

Considering the person the article is about, voted, no voter suppression took place.

Mountains out of molehills. But. In this case. There was no molehill. There wasn't anything.

Just ABigExaggerater.

Meanwhile. Hundreds and Thousands of Democratic voters are being prevented from doing so so some jackhole loser republicans can pretend to win.

#40 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-06 11:57 AM | Reply

@#40 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-06 11:57 AM
I'm sorry to hear that you also are backing away from Democratic claims that making it harder to vote, such as relocating a polling place to a less convenient location or requiring a photo ID, is an act of voter suppression.

#41 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-11-06 12:01 PM | Reply

"you also are backing away from Democratic claims that making it harder to vote, such as relocating a polling place to a less convenient location or requiring a photo ID, is an act of voter suppression."

Great. Another chapter of "First, let's all pretend we're stupid".

Calling this incident "voter suppression" is the height of partisan stupidity, and a real slap in the face to folks who have faced ACTUAL voter suppression.

#42 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-06 01:03 PM | Reply

"According the article, 'a crew' set up in the parking lot. While I suppose that it is possible that it was a crew of 1, I'm sure that you find that as unlikely as I do."

Great. More "Let's play stupid".

Crew is clearly plural, but the crew, in a case like this, all travel in the same singular car or van. Only ONE driver, and if he gets a violation for parking in a handicapped spot, ONE ticket.

Instead, you have to pretend all four members of the crew committed suppression, to keep from having to retract your incorrect pluralization.

Enjoy twisting yourself into a pretzel.

#43 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-06 01:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Only ONE driver, and if he gets a violation for parking in a handicapped spot, ONE ticket....Instead, you have to pretend all four members of the crew committed suppression, to keep from having to retract your incorrect pluralization. - #43 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-06 01:26 PM

I see that you didn't bother to actually read the article. I'm glad to find that you've been arguing from ignorance the whole time. They didn't park in the handicap spot, they set up their broadcast in the spot. There's a picture in the article if you'd bothered to look. Or read the blurb above : "Went to vote, and found this waiting for us. The only van accessible spot and they're filming in it," James Berrie wrote. I guess voter suppression isn't important enough for you to actually read the article about it.

So, 2nd time this article I've shown you to be wrong (fine v free). At least you kind-of apologized the first time. Let's see if maturity or 'twisting yourself into a pretzel' wins this time.

#44 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-11-06 01:35 PM | Reply

Whataboutism all you have?
MSNBC inconvinienced one person who felt strongly enough to make an issue of it, and an unknown number, who may or may not have been able to vote, who lacked the ability to make their complaints known.

one person who actually did vote. do you enjoy looking ignorant? it seems so.

#45 | Posted by cjk85 at 2018-11-06 08:53 PM | Reply

i'm watching abc news online and the commentator keeps saying "if your online, stay online." WTF is "stay online." is that voter suppression too avigdore?

#46 | Posted by cjk85 at 2018-11-06 09:24 PM | Reply

one person who actually did vote. do you enjoy looking ignorant? it seems so. - #45 | Posted by cjk85 at 2018-11-06 08:53 PM
Sure he voted. That was never in doubt. But MSNBC made it more difficult for this disabled voter to cast his vote. Making it more difficult for people to cast their vote, like minimizing early voting or cutting back on hours at voting locations, is voter suppression. Or do you not agree that those kinds of activities are voter suppression?

#47 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-11-06 11:45 PM | Reply

you didn't answer my question, try again.

i'm watching abc news online and the commentator keeps saying "if your online, stay online." WTF is "stay online." is that voter suppression too avigdore?

#46 | POSTED BY CJK85 AT 2018-11-06 09:24 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

#48 | Posted by cjk85 at 2018-11-07 01:41 AM | Reply

and your reply makes no sense.

#49 | Posted by cjk85 at 2018-11-07 01:43 AM | Reply

i think he meant stay in line but he kept saying "stay online."

#50 | Posted by cjk85 at 2018-11-07 01:44 AM | Reply

50 posts for an idiotic, obvious troll post? I'm simultaneously disgusted and impressed.

#51 | Posted by dylanfan at 2018-11-07 06:40 AM | Reply

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