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Monday, October 22, 2018

Germany announced plans to stop exporting arms to Saudi Arabia in the wake of the killing of dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi, Agence France-Presse reports.

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While Khashoggi was a U.S. resident, President Donald Trump has implied that the White House has little obligation to investigate the incident, emphasizing that the journalist was not a U.S. citizen.

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#1 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-10-22 09:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So, let them take care of it.

#2 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-10-22 12:37 PM | Reply

So, let them take care of it.

#2 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Oh yes, Jamal may be American, but he isn't white Trump voting American. So his life doesn't matter. Got it.

#3 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-10-22 12:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Oh yes, Jamal may be American, but he isn't white Trump voting American. So his life doesn't matter. Got it. - #3 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-10-22 12:40 PM
He's a Saudi, not an American. Not that there is any justification for his death, but there's also no need to pass on misinformation about his nationality.

#4 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-10-22 12:53 PM | Reply

Sniper is a confederate so his life doesn't matter. Nor do his fantastical delusions.

#5 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-10-22 12:55 PM | Reply

He's a Saudi, not an American. Not that there is any justification for his death, but there's also no need to pass on misinformation about his nationality.

#4 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

He was an American journalist. He's been living in this country since 2017 as a legal US resident. He was here on an O Visa and applying to become a permanent legal resident.

To many of us, that makes him American. Not as American as apple pie, but American enough where we don't let foreign governments torture and execute him.

#6 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-10-22 01:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"He's a Saudi, not an American"

there you have it

the GOP does not have your back, unless you are white and protestant

they never did, and they never will

#7 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-10-22 01:09 PM | Reply

@#7 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-10-22 01:09 PM
When you've got nothing, you keep falling back to lies.
I'm not GOP.
I'm not protestant.
I said there's no justification for his death.
But you keep on displaying your untrustworthiness. I'm sure it'll bear fruit someday.

#8 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-10-22 01:17 PM | Reply

You didn't vote for Trump?
Seriously???
Felony conviction?

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-22 01:20 PM | Reply

You didn't vote for Trump?
Seriously???
Felony conviction? - #9 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-22 01:20 PM

No, I voted for Johnson here in VA which HRC carried.
I doubt I'd be able to keep my TS clearance with a felony conviction.

#10 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-10-22 01:34 PM | Reply

so, you didn't write this?

"He's a Saudi, not an American"

looks like you did
and it says you don't have another Americans back unless you think they are sufficiently American

all your other mumbo-jumbo is just that, mumbo-jumbo

#11 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-10-22 01:40 PM | Reply

He was a Saudi who got killed by Saudi's for spreading disinformation against the Saudi Royal family. While the apparent method may have been gruesome, it's worth keeping in mind that it is no more gruesome than the killing methods of those that he supported. He was part of or in with the original Muslim Brotherhood gaggle and was somehow able to gain access to Bin Laden on multiple occasions to "interview" him. As far as I am concerned, he was a criminal in his own country and decided that his brand new green card entitled him to go poke a stick in the bear's eye. Well, he was not only wrong...he was stupid. There are a lot of journalists all over the world that get detained, imprisoned and killed all the time. I find it ironic that this anti-western pro-Islamic ----- ran to the US to escape Saudi retribution.

#12 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2018-10-22 01:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

it says you don't have another Americans back unless you think they are sufficiently American - #11 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-10-22 01:40 PM
No, that is projection and it is coming from your head.
What it actually means is that he is a Saudi, not an American as Sychophant mistakenly stated.

#13 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-10-22 01:42 PM | Reply

"No, that is projection "

that's right, rationalize your lack of morals.

#14 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-10-22 01:47 PM | Reply

I see aBigBore has found his red herring to obsess over for 100 posts in this thread. Stop feeding the troll, people.

#15 | Posted by JOE at 2018-10-22 01:48 PM | Reply

"While the apparent method may have been gruesome, it's worth keeping in mind that it is no more gruesome than the killing methods of those that he supported."

Why is it important to keep that in mind?

You're arguing what's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?

Like when black drug dealers kill other black drug dealers.

Basically, it's okay.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-22 01:51 PM | Reply

>>I doubt I'd be able to keep my TS >>clearance with a felony conviction.

Are you ------ nuts? Why are you bragging about having a TS on a public worldwide forum. This is how you lose your TS. You open yourself up to threats and blackmail.

And just because the average Joe can't find out who you are doesn't mean people who have a vested interest cant.. seriously loose lips sinks ships; stop being so damn stupid.

#17 | Posted by Regnum at 2018-10-22 01:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 3 | Newsworthy 2

"...stop being so damn stupid." - #17 | Posted by Regnum at 2018-10-22 01:53 PM

As it relates to Avigdore, that ship sailed long ago.

#18 | Posted by Hans at 2018-10-22 01:55 PM | Reply

"I voted for Johnson"

Oh you're one of the Never Trumpers who now supports everything Trump does without reservation.

You'll be voting for Trump in 2020 the way things are shaping up, right?

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-22 02:02 PM | Reply

Are you ------ nuts? Why are you bragging about having a TS on a public worldwide forum. This is how you lose your TS. You open yourself up to threats and blackmail.- #17 | Posted by Regnum at 2018-10-22 01:53 PM

Having a security clearance is publically available information. You can submit a FOIA request to determine if anyone has a security clearance. You won't aren't supposed to get any PII, but the fact that an employee of the federal government having a clearance is not a secret from the people. My PII, like the SF-86, isn't available due to The Privacy Act.
www.dss.mil

#20 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-10-22 02:09 PM | Reply

#12 | Posted by bogey1355

He was not in with the Muslim Brotherhood. He wasn't lying about the Royals either. Must have been tuning into Faux and Friends or Alex Jones for that view.

#21 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-10-22 02:41 PM | Reply

Oh yes, Jamal may be American, but he isn't white Trump voting American. So his life doesn't matter. Got it.

#3 | Posted by Sycophant

He is NOT a US citizen.

#22 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-10-22 05:35 PM | Reply

He was an American journalist. .

#6 | Posted by Sycophant

WTF does that mean? He is NOT a citizen and he was murdered in another country. Where are your tears for all the police that have been shot this year? I'll bet you can't even name one of them.

#23 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-10-22 05:38 PM | Reply

Are you ------ nuts? Why are you bragging about having a TS on a public worldwide forum. This is how you lose your TS.

#17 | Posted by Regnum

He is just proving he doesn't deserve a TS.

#24 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-10-22 05:40 PM | Reply

Where are your tears for all the police that have been shot this year? I'll bet you can't even name one of them.

#23 | POSTED BY SNIPER

They signed up to get shot at because of their power obsession. Comparing journalists to cops is an insult to journalists.

#25 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-10-22 05:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sycophant only cares about dead people that further his agenda.

Take Libyans, for example. doesn't give a shet. Sudanese? ffckem.

Yemenis who? Lebanese what? Notice Syrians aren't even in the news anymore, so also off the radar.

#26 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-22 05:43 PM | Reply

They signed up to get shot at because of their power obsession. Comparing journalists to cops is an insult to journalists.
#25 | POSTED BY INDIANAJONES

There are lots of problems with some cops, I agree. But the only reason your white ass hasn't been dragged into the street and beaten senseless is because there are cops around. The very real prospect of getting caught is a very real deterrent, whether you believe that or not. I'm glad cops do what they do, and I hope for reform, not just with LEOs, but with courts and prisons as well.

#27 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-22 05:47 PM | Reply

Germany Cares More About the Murder of a U.S. Journalist

How is a non US citizen a U.S. Journalist?

#28 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-10-22 05:47 PM | Reply

"But the only reason your white ass hasn't been dragged into the street and beaten senseless is because there are cops around."

Not where I'm from. Here its the cops most likely to drag you into the street and beat you senseless.

90% of cops are useless and 10% are good community service members.

#29 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-10-22 05:50 PM | Reply

How is a non US citizen a U.S. Journalist?

#28 | POSTED BY SNIPER

How is it possible you can be too stupid to know The Washington Post is based in DC, the capital of the United States?

Maybe had he worked for the Whig or the Sentinel,/i> your dumb ass would care.

#30 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-10-22 05:53 PM | Reply

"But the only reason your white ass hasn't been dragged into the street and beaten senseless is because there are cops around."

Because of the Race War being waged against straight white Christian males.

Sheepleschism is a Proud Boy. His hero Bernie would be so proud!

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-22 05:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Whoops looks like I almost left an italics tag open.

#32 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-10-22 06:00 PM | Reply

"How is a non US citizen a U.S. Journalist?"

The same way Einstein was an American scientist while he had a green card.

You know Einstein?

The person everyone mentions whenever you screw up?

Why to go Einstein.

#33 | Posted by Tor at 2018-10-22 06:01 PM | Reply

You know Einstein?
The person everyone mentions whenever you screw up?

Why to go Einstein.
#33 | POSTED BY TOR

Indeed.

:)

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-10-22 06:02 PM | Reply

#31 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Cherry picked quote, assigning position, and strawman trifecta!

#35 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-22 06:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#35 It's like there's a war against you!

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-22 06:14 PM | Reply

The war on Russian trolls will start on the net and end in their getting shot.

#37 | Posted by Tor at 2018-10-22 06:38 PM | Reply

A US based journalist.
A US journalist doesn't make much sense.

It's purposefully being phrased the way it is because we are supposed to care more...

#38 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-10-22 06:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"supposed to care more..."

We have Russian Assassins killing at will in England and Saudi Assassins killing at will in Turkey.

How dare you care less?

#39 | Posted by Tor at 2018-10-22 06:47 PM | Reply

It's purposefully being phrased the way it is because we are supposed to care more...
#38 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE

If Obama was in office, he would be a Saudi journalist.

#40 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-22 07:04 PM | Reply

Saudi Assassins killing at will in Turkey.
#39 | POSTED BY TOR

FYI - Turkey jails more journalists than any other nation. - www.pri.org

I'm sure MbS is shocked that he's not going to get away with it. especially since it was Turkey raising the alarm.

#41 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-22 07:10 PM | Reply

How dare you care less?

#39 | POSTED BY TOR

Because they are cowardly Trump sycophants. They have almost no self esteem, so the way they feel good about themselves is by either carrying around a big gun or voting for a bully who likes to toss third-grade insults at liberals. Conservatives are so used to losing at everything in this country (even controlling the government they can't get anything accomplished other than paying back their donors with a tax break) that third-grade insults is all they got.

The problem is bullies like to feel powerful by pushing people around, but have no principles so will fold whenever anyone stands up to them. They pick on the weak, and suck up to the strong. That is today's Republican party. That is why they have no problem letting MbS run roughshod over international norms.
You actually want to stand up to evil because you have moral fiber. Republicans have none left. They have just become shallow little husks that only care about "winning" because they have become such losers (gay rights, women's rights, minority rights, trans rights, religion... in the past 30 years Republicans have been on the losing side of everything they cared about).

#42 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2018-10-22 07:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If Obama was in office, he would be a Saudi journalist.
#40 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

If Obama were in office, he wouldn't be folding like a limp noodle as Republicans are doing now.

#43 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2018-10-22 07:18 PM | Reply

Don't the Germans and the ---- still owe us money?

#44 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2018-10-22 09:04 PM | Reply

They are called Japanese and they have been our allies against stalinism and maoism for over half a century now.

#45 | Posted by Tor at 2018-10-22 09:48 PM | Reply

So, let them take care of it.

#2 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2018-10-22 12:37 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

North Korea tortures Otto Warmbier into a coma and later dies. Dotard publicly kisses Lil Kim's ass.

Saudi Arabia dismembers a US journalist while still alive and Dotard busts out the knee pads for the Saudi's.

I am beginning to see a trend here.

#46 | Posted by 726 at 2018-10-23 11:06 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

That is one tough POTUS you got there GOP.

#47 | Posted by 726 at 2018-10-23 11:07 AM | Reply

Sycophant only cares about dead people that further his agenda.
Take Libyans, for example. doesn't give a shet. Sudanese? ffckem.
Yemenis who? Lebanese what? Notice Syrians aren't even in the news anymore, so also off the radar.

#26 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

When all you have is lies I suppose...

Democrats care about people who hurt their agenda all the time. The ACLU defends the KKK. Democrats defend illegal immigrants and lose votes. Democrats want to send aid to Libya, Sudan, etc. And they lose votes.

And I've actually worked pro bono with more than a few Lebanese couples and two very nice Sudanese immigrant families.

Republicans basically say screw'em all and give me a tax break.

So when you say stupid ---- like "Sycophant only cares about dead people that further his agenda", you come off as the biggest idiot on the planet (competing with Sniper of course).

Then again, you're a joke. No one takes you seriously. You've become the Village Idiot of the DR. And every time we see your name, we shake our heads in sadness that you still haven't gotten the help you need.

#48 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-10-23 03:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#48 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

I'm have no doubt in your real-life altruism. I expect anyone who is not a sociopath to have genuine empathy and compassion for human beings.
However, in heated political discussion, it's common to look past real people to gain points or defend partisan ground.

I'm hoping for leadership that one day calls out the Saudi's for what they really are, and I've stated this position for a long, long time.
And yet, it's always been pointed out to me that they're an important trade customer. Personally, I don't want those types of partner-allies.

I'm disappointed no one has taken them to task, especially the last two Dem presidents.

As for Khashoggi, this is being used more as a political football vs. an incident requiring Saudi accountability - because Trump
I also believe that it's Putin pushing Erdogan from behind to create a boycott/sanction of Saudi oil in favor of Russian oil.

Because after all, Erdogan jails and tortures journalists and dissidents, so he has no real issue with the Saudis killing one.

Think about it.

#49 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-23 03:47 PM | Reply

I'm sure MbS is shocked that he's not going to get away with it. especially since it was Turkey raising the alarm.

#41 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2018-10-22 07:10 PM

On this topic, it is pretty clear that Erdogan is trying to upset the falafel cart in terms of the pecking order in the ME and wanted to give the Saudis (and especially MbS) an huge black eye. Who knows, Erdogan may have known this was going to happen in advance (bugs in the Saudi Embassy, anyone?) and let it go so that he could raise the alarm.

Erdogan is a mean mofo, make no mistake that he is some kind of altruistic softy trying to foster a free press.

#50 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-10-23 04:04 PM | Reply

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