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Friday, October 19, 2018

President Donald Trump praised Montana Republican Rep. Greg Gianforte for assaulting a reporter during his campaign last May, saying "any guy who can do a body slam ... he's my guy" and made a gesture mimicking a body slam.

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Question for Trump and his followers is if the reporter had died from the bodyslam would you be cheering his murderer?

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Inciting violence against the Press. Republican values and civility right there, Sparky.

How long till somebody looses an eye?

Or gets killed?

The GOP has got to stop this mad man from instigating violence against the press like his buddies the Saudis.

#1 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2018-10-18 11:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Heather Heyer.

#2 | Posted by ichiro at 2018-10-19 12:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#1 Or dismemebered alive by "rogue killers"?

#3 | Posted by 726 at 2018-10-19 08:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"#1 Or dismemebered alive by "American allies"?"

I am disgusted by the bought and paid for President. He is a whore.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2018-10-19 08:20 AM | Reply

I'm definitely not going to be voting for him in November.

#5 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-10-19 08:40 AM | Reply

Inciting violence against the Press. - #1 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2018-10-18 11:16 PM

Can you quote the inciting of violence? I'm having trouble finding it in the article.

#6 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-10-19 08:46 AM | Reply

#6
Cheering for, personally praising and calling a guy who body slammed a journalist, referring to him as "my guy" too nuanced for ya, there Sailor?

#7 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2018-10-19 09:48 AM | Reply

Re: Avigdore

It's Trump's quote in the title. Here's a link to the video as well: youtu.be

All these people at his rallies cheering on this barbarian mobster. SMDH

#8 | Posted by hamburglar at 2018-10-19 09:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#8 | Posted by hamburglar at 2018-10-19 09:49 AM
That quote ('Any guy who can do a body slam ... he's my guy') is in no way inciting violence. It's wrong in most of the same ways that Trump is wrong, but to call it inciting violence is to lie about what it means to incite violence. If you're ok with lying about what it means to incite violence, then why are you complaining about Trump?

#9 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-10-19 09:59 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Cheering for, personally praising and calling a guy who body slammed a journalist, referring to him as "my guy" too nuanced for ya, there Sailor? - #7 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2018-10-19 09:48 AM

They're all terrible activities by a terrible president. What they aren't is inciting violence. That makes me wonder what your motivation was to falsely claim it as inciting violence against the press.

#10 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-10-19 10:01 AM | Reply

Re: Avigdore

You're being obtuse.

#11 | Posted by hamburglar at 2018-10-19 10:04 AM | Reply

This is like "It depends on what your definition of "is" is"

#12 | Posted by hamburglar at 2018-10-19 10:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Words have meanings. Trump has done a myriad of terrible things. He's a bad guy. He lies and self aggrandizes more than I thought a person could. Pick one of the many things he's done badly, and talk about that. When you choose to lie about Trump, especially a lie that is so quickly and easily disproven, you do a disservice to everyone.

#13 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-10-19 10:13 AM | Reply

Everyone but me, because I get to point out the lie. I kind of enjoy that.

#14 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-10-19 10:14 AM | Reply

Downing Street criticises Trump for praising attack on Guardian reporter

Violence or intimidation against journalists ‘completely unacceptable', No 10 says

www.theguardian.com

In a statement, the Guardian US editor, John Mulholland, said: "The president of the United States tonight applauded the assault on an American journalist who works for the Guardian. To celebrate an attack on a journalist who was simply doing his job is an attack on the first amendment by someone who has taken an oath to defend it.

"In the aftermath of the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, it runs the risk of inviting other assaults on journalists both here and across the world where they often face far greater threats. We hope decent people will denounce these comments and that the president will see fit to apologize for them."

www.theguardian.com

#15 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-10-19 10:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Re: Avigdore
You're being obtuse.

#11 | POSTED BY HAMBURGLAR

That's not the word I would use. But mine would get moderated...

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-10-19 10:50 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

What they aren't is inciting violence. That makes me wonder what your motivation was to falsely claim it as inciting violence against the press.

#10 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

Since it has been painfully obvious that Humpy HAS incited violence it makes me wonder what YOUR motivation is in defending Humpy every chance you get.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-10-19 10:55 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 5

it makes me wonder what YOUR motivation is in defending Humpy every chance you get. - #17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-10-19 10:55 AM

Defense of the English language isn't a defense of Trump. It seems that I am not ok with anyone who lies and you're ok with lies that paint people you don't like in a bad manner. If I'm wrong (certainly a possibility), then why aren't you calling out the lies as well?

#18 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-10-19 10:58 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

why aren't you calling out the lies as well?

#18 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE AT 2018-10-19 10:58 AM | FLAG: | FUNNY: 1

Is this a dream?

I am here retorting you aren't I?

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-10-19 12:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I am here retorting you aren't I? - #19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-10-19 12:04 PM

Not that I've seen. But you're welcome to try to point some out.
Is this a dream?
That must be it.

#20 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-10-19 12:06 PM | Reply

You can just hear the crowds at his rallies now when he talks about journalists....

"Lock Them Up and Dismember Them!"

Although there's a 3 syllable word there, so maybe not.

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2018-10-19 12:09 PM | Reply

"Defense of the English language isn't a defense of Trump."

True.

Trump speaks Engrish. Not English.

But you do twist yourself into 🥨 trying to Trumpsplain everything he says. It was clear as day to me. He was encouraging more violence.

But it will be civil violence. That's why they call it a "civil war".

Because it is soooo civil.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-10-19 12:19 PM | Reply

Still haven't heard anyone denounce Antifa, BLM, Soros' violent dem operatives grabbing women, elevator screamers, restaurant harassers, or Mad Maxine.

#23 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-19 12:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

whatabout that left-wing action?

#24 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-10-19 12:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#24
Define 'left wing' as compared to 'Left', 'Progressive','Left Center', 'Center', 'Right Center', 'Conservative', 'Right', 'Right Wing'.

Certainly, Mr. "Defender of The English Language" doesnt expect them to be used interchangeably.

#25 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2018-10-19 12:50 PM | Reply

That quote ('Any guy who can do a body slam ... he's my guy') is in no way inciting violence.
#9 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

It's Official!

Congrats!

Seriously, a lot of us doubted you could do it. Many said it was impossible. But you showed them!

You have replaced Sniper as the DR's Dumbest Poster.

Your trophy is in the mail.

#26 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-10-19 12:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

That quote ('Any guy who can do a body slam ... he's my guy') is in no way inciting violence.

It might be. At minimum it's praising a previous act of violence. Time will tell whether one of Trump's sociopathic hangers-on decides to commit another act of violence because Trump praised this one.

#27 | Posted by JOE at 2018-10-19 01:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump wasn't just joking, he was downright praising.

"That quote ('Any guy who can do a body slam ... he's my guy') is in no way inciting violence."

He was celebrating a criminal assault so yeah that is inciting violence.

#28 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2018-10-19 01:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

whatabout...blah blah blah.

#24 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE & SHEEPY

#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-10-19 01:18 PM | Reply

If he was speaking about The Rock would be inciting violence?
The statement was wrong, as I've already said. It was stupid, as most of Trump's rallies probably are. But you have to pretend that words don't mean things if you call that statement inciting violence- a call to violence.
Crack a dictionary maybe? To incite is to cause to act or occur.
Had he said 'I want you to go out there and body slam people for me' or any other actual call to action, you'd be right.
Since he didn't...you're not.

#30 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-10-19 01:24 PM | Reply

@#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-10-19 01:18 PM
My calling out whataboutism is now whataboutism? How about WTFism?

#31 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-10-19 01:25 PM | Reply

To incite is to cause to act or occur.

And as i said, you can't know whether he caused it to occur until it occurs or does not occur. That's how incitement works.

#32 | Posted by JOE at 2018-10-19 01:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"All Americans should recoil from the president's praise for a violent assault on a reporter doing his Constitutionally protected job," White House Correspondents' Association president Olivier Knox said in a statement.

"This amounts to the celebration of a crime by someone sworn to uphold our laws and an attack on the First Amendment by someone who has solemnly pledged to defend it. We should never shrug at the president cheerleading for a violent act targeting a free and independent news media."

www.politico.com

#33 | Posted by Corky at 2018-10-19 01:37 PM | Reply

My calling out whataboutism is now whataboutism? How about WTFism?

#31 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

Yup. No more whatabout whatabouts.

The "w" word is not longer PC.

Hey it's Trumplandia. I don't make the rules.

Wait!

Are there any rules ? Seems to me we just making up crap as we go along these days.

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-10-19 01:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump is such a POS.

#35 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-10-19 02:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#36 And so are the people that support his actions. Like you.

#36 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-10-19 02:36 PM | Reply

A little more context from Trump himself:

I heard that he had body slammed a reporter. And he was way up ... and I said, ‘Oh, this is terrible, he's going to lose the election.' But then I said, ‘Well wait a minute, I know Montana pretty well, I think it might help him,' and it did ... He's a great guy and a tough cookie."

A criminal assault is "terrible" - but only if it's going to lose an election.

Wait a minute - a criminal assault might actually help because Montanans love a guy who answers questions with violence!

A criminal assault makes one a "great guy" and a "tough cookie".

If that's not inciting violence at least have the guts to admit it's condoning violence.

#37 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2018-10-19 03:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump has done a myriad of terrible things.
--Avigdore

When everything is terrible, nothing is terrible.
--JeffJ

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-19 03:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The guy was in the WWF (WWE for you toddlers). It's in his DNA! The guy Is an animal. A trained athlete. You can't cage an animal spirit like that. ----, I'm surprised he didn't rip his ------- shirt off while saying it.

For the record, are we all for or against incitement, because I see people ignore it depending on what politician or talking head says it.
Personally, I find it depressing that this is how low we've stooped. politicians and the media used to at least pretend to have class.

#39 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-10-19 03:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Avigdore

What exactly do you think it is when someone in a position of power and influence is in front of a pumped up crowd of ravenous morons gets them all pumped up praising the baseless assault of a reporter by a politician? You saw it during his campaign - remember the guy who sucker punched a protestor? Or how about the alt-whitey who murdered Heather Heyer in cold blood along with injuring many others? His rhetoric and praising of these sort of people and actions ABSOLUTELY incites further violence. Even those that haven't lashed out yet at the very least it strengthens the false narratives and emboldens them.

This isn't on assault but rather "false narratives" spread by the right and tRump in particular. I heard them interview this moron of a woman today on NPR who was for Trump's policy on immigration based on fear of "criminals" but couldn't understand why we weren't just getting rid of the criminals. Forget that illegal immigrants or immigrants in general for that matter commit all crimes at a far lower rate than lifelong citizens - the dichotomy of the two positions she seemed to be in the middle of and DID NOT UNDERSTAND was mind blowing. Her one "EMPLOYEE" was illegal and deported. She couldn't understand why they had to deport him because he was "such a good guy"...

#40 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-10-19 03:19 PM | Reply

One side, and one side only, lacked class in the body slam incident -- as well as at the rally.

That side was not "the media."

#41 | Posted by cbob at 2018-10-19 03:24 PM | Reply

We know Trump is actively covering up the murder of a reporter. He doesn't even try to hide the fact that only money matters.

#42 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-10-19 03:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There are ways to encourage violence without specifically encouraging violence.

Imagine a black man surrounded by members of the KKK armed with bats. This gathering is being watched by several police officers. The police officers turned their backs. Avigdore seemingly would give them a pass.

Or imagine if I'm teaching a class. Several students are off-task, so I say, "I'd like to thank those of you who are focusing on the work you need to do." A few of those off-task students begin working. Avigdore would seemingly argue that those students begin working of their own volition.

Now, did Trump PURPOSEFULLY incite violence? The juries out on that. I personally still swing between "Trump is an evil mastermind" and "Trump is a ------- idiot who never considers the impact of what he says." This statement could fall under either heading.

Avigdore, you're being obtuse. You're hardly defending the English language.

#43 | Posted by dylanfan at 2018-10-19 04:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Or how about the alt-whitey who murdered Heather Heyer in cold blood along with injuring many others? His rhetoric and praising of these sort of people and actions ABSOLUTELY incites further violence. Even those that haven't lashed out yet at the very least it strengthens the false narratives and emboldens them. -#40 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-10-19 03:19 PM
See, when you have to lie, you've lost the discussion.
Here's what Trump actually said:
Trump: I think the driver of the car is a disgrace to himself, his family and this country. You can call it terrorism. You can call it murder. You can call it whatever you want. I would just call it as the fastest one to come up with a good verdict. There is a question. Is it murder? Is it terrorism? Then you get into legal semantics. The driver of the car is a murderer. What he did was a horrible, horrible, inexcusable thing.

Why don't you go ahead and point out the part you consider him praising these sort of people.

#44 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-10-19 04:47 PM | Reply

Avigdore is right. Trump wasn't inciting violence or calling for people to bodyslam anyone.

Maxine Waters on the other hand, was very specifically calling for violence, and encouraging people to confront conservatives.

Thread requires the following reference modifiers: #flappy #hypocrisy

#45 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-19 04:48 PM | Reply

Avigdore is right. Trump wasn't inciting violence or calling for people to bodyslam anyone.

Yeah, all Trump did was vocally applaud the bodyslamming of a journalist. But congratulations to you and aBigBore on derailing the thread into a debate on whether violence was "incited" under some hypertechnical definition, and away from the fact that Trump is an overall flaming -------- of a person. How many rubles do you receive for that?

#46 | Posted by JOE at 2018-10-19 04:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Re: Sheepleschism

Lies, all in the excuse for carrying piss for the deplorable president

#47 | Posted by hamburglar at 2018-10-19 05:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Lies, all in the excuse for carrying piss for the deplorable president
#47 | POSTED BY HAMBURGLAR

How far are you going to carry Maxine Waters incitement of violence?

When will you denounce what she said...ever?

#48 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-19 05:39 PM | Reply

a debate on whether violence was "incited" under some hypertechnical definition
#46 | POSTED BY JOE

How about under YOUR hypertechnical definition, Joe?

Did Maxine Waters call for violence against elected officials and cabinet members?

#49 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-19 05:41 PM | Reply

Trump wasn't inciting violence

"I'd like to punch him in the face"
"Maybe he should have been roughed up"
"Part of the problem is no one wants to hurt each other anymore"
"I don't know if I'll do the fighting myself or if other people will"
"If you do (hurt him), I'll defend you in court, don't worry about it"

#50 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2018-10-19 05:50 PM | Reply

#49 I'm not participating in your deflection, only pointing it out. I imagine you get less rubles that way.

#51 | Posted by JOE at 2018-10-19 05:57 PM | Reply

I'm not participating in your deflection
#51 | POSTED BY JOE

Of course you won't, because you can't.

You can't bring yourself to admit that I'm right,
which is the crux of the problem with the DNC, DCCC, and Democrats as a whole.

That 2016 was an abortion gone wrong.
They killed baby Bernie to save momma Pantsuit and splintered the entire family into warring factions.

Now the hospital can't even come up with a single policy to run on
so they scream at the public and blame everyone but themselves.

#DNC Malpractice #Corruption #Lies #KilledTheBaby

#52 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-19 06:11 PM | Reply

I am here retorting you aren't I? - #19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-10-19 12:04 PM

To which Avigdore responds with:

Not that I've seen. But you're welcome to try to point some out.

retort1 | rɪˈtɔːt |
verb
1 [reporting verb] say something in answer to a remark, typically in a sharp, angry, or witty manner: [with direct speech] : ‘No need to be rude,' retorted Isabel | [with clause] : he retorted that this was nonsense.
2 [with object] archaic repay (an insult or injury): it was now his time to retort the humiliation.
• turn (an insult or accusation) back on the person who has issued it: he was resolute to retort the charge of treason on his foes.
• use (an opponent's argument) against them: the answer they make to us may very easily be retorted.
"Words have meaning" - Avigdore

#53 | Posted by YAV at 2018-10-19 06:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

What they aren't is inciting violence. That makes me wonder what your motivation was to falsely claim it as inciting violence against the press.
#10 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

How about "If hillary clinton wins, you guys can shoot supreme court justices". Violent enough for you?

#54 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-10-19 07:33 PM | Reply

Screw Trump and screw all you clowns who don't have the balls to concede what an uncivilized piece of ---- he is. He is literally attacking the First Amendment and you guys have a thousand excuses and deflections for it. You disgust me.

#55 | Posted by cbob at 2018-10-19 08:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The only people who admire what Pianoforte did are a bunch of pansies who have never fought a man.

#56 | Posted by Tor at 2018-10-19 09:23 PM | Reply

"They killed baby Bernie to save momma Pantsuit and splintered the entire family into warring factions."

GOP approves.
Trump approves.
Putin approves.
SheepleSchism approves.

(That's just how liberal SheepleSchism is.)

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-19 10:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Sheep's entire game is deflect, gaslight, and obfuscate with irrelevant information and lies. IOW, a troll.

#58 | Posted by hamburglar at 2018-10-19 11:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Two more who can't admit that the bastard monster in office is of your own creation.

Give yourselves a round of applause. now double down.

#59 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-20 01:16 AM | Reply

Re: Sheepleschism
Lies, all in the excuse for carrying drinking piss for the deplorable president

#47 | POSTED BY HAMBURGLAR

FTFF

(Fixed that for fun)

#60 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-10-20 09:16 AM | Reply

That monster is there because of you, Sheeple.
All you do is reinforce his message.
Non-stop. Continuously.
You occasionally throw in a derogatory remark directly about him, as if that means something.
Then you double down on everything he says, propagating his lies, defending his 'philosophy.'
That's why #57 and #58 are dead on about you.

#61 | Posted by YAV at 2018-10-20 09:20 AM | Reply

"That monster is there because of you, and people like you, Sheeple" - FTFM.

#62 | Posted by YAV at 2018-10-20 09:20 AM | Reply

"They killed baby Bernie to save momma Pantsuit and splintered the entire family into warring factions."

Bernie told people like you in no uncertain terms to vote for Hillary, but you ignored him and blame everybody instead of looking in the mirror. Sad.

"Two more who can't admit that the bastard monster in office is of your own creation.
Give yourselves a round of applause. now double down."

Remember when you used to post "Now eat your cake" until I posted Bernie's comments about Hillary and the Democrats versus Trump and the GOP? You've just replaced "Now eat your cake" with "Give yourselves a round of applause" instead of opting for "introspection, admission and change." Very sad indeed.

#63 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-10-20 09:50 AM | Reply

'"They killed baby Bernie to save momma Pantsuit and splintered the entire family into warring factions."

Bernie told you, in no uncertain terms, to vote for Hillary and we have Trump as President because you wouldn't listen to the man you claim to support. And, I do hate reminding you of this over and over but I promised you I would and I like to keep my promises. Third party voters waste their votes and bad things happen. Responsible citizens need to vote for candidates who can 1. win, 2. will do no harm, 3. hopefully can do some good. Vote for a Nader or vote for Jill Stein, you just enable Trump. Thanks for that, not!

#64 | Posted by danni at 2018-10-20 11:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Avigdore is right. Trump wasn't inciting violence or calling for people to bodyslam anyone."

When the two of you make such stupid statements don't be surprised when we laugh at your stupid asses. Just plain dumb or liars. Both of you choose for yourselves; liars or stupid. It is one or the other.

#65 | Posted by danni at 2018-10-20 11:15 AM | Reply

When you choose to lie about Trump, especially a lie that is so quickly and easily disproven, you do a disservice to everyone.

#13 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

Trump is the most religiously faithful husband and family man who humbly subordinate's himself to a scientific and data driven world ... and who also leads by example by paying taxes, serving in the military, and using the office of President to stand up to the world's dicators.

Well, actually, you're full of crap.

#66 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-10-20 11:25 AM | Reply

Hahaha. Oh, sorry children. Hurt your feelings again.

#67 | Posted by sames1 at 2018-10-20 12:09 PM | Reply

Re: Sames1

This is serious stuff, child. Run along to your sandbox full of $#!+

#68 | Posted by hamburglar at 2018-10-20 01:07 PM | Reply

Nobody believes you limowrists. You're too hypocritical and emotionally volatile to be taken seriously.

Look at Joe, he's an emotional wreck and prone to hysterics. All because he poisoned the Clinton well by championing Bernie in the primary. Damage done, lil Joe.

#69 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-10-20 03:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

All I can say is when Hannity, Tucker, Hicks-Jones, Weiner-Savage, John Gibson, etc etc meet the business end of a Louisville Slugger or worse from some LW nut, the traitorous alt-right nazi's and Russian sympathizers better STFU!

YOU BUILT THIS DANGEROUS POLITICAL CLIMATE!

#70 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-10-20 07:15 PM | Reply

Re: 101Chairborne

Too many intelligent people are recognizing that fascism is coming to the forefront in America. We aren't crazy, we are aware. Trump has always been an effed up character, and the country elected him. That's effed up. We are not in the midst of a normal state of affairs.

#71 | Posted by hamburglar at 2018-10-21 01:34 PM | Reply

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