Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Wednesday, October 10, 2018

On social media, the country seems to divide into two neat camps: Call them the woke and the resentful. Team Resentment is manned -- pun very much intended -- by people who are predominantly old and almost exclusively white. Team Woke is young, likely to be female, and predominantly black, brown, or Asian (though white "allies" do their dutiful part). These teams are roughly equal in number, and they disagree most vehemently, as well as most routinely, about the catchall known as political correctness. Reality is nothing like this. As scholars Stephen Hawkins, Daniel Yudkin, Miriam Juan-Torres, and Tim Dixon argue in a report published Wednesday, "Hidden Tribes: A Study of America's Polarized Landscape," most Americans don't fit into either of these camps. They also share more common ground than the daily fights on social media might suggest -- including a general aversion to PC culture.

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According to the report, 25 percent of Americans are traditional or devoted conservatives, and their views are far outside the American mainstream. Some 8 percent of Americans are progressive activists, and their views are even less typical. By contrast, the two-thirds of Americans who don't belong to either extreme constitute an "exhausted majority." Their members "share a sense of fatigue with our polarized national conversation, a willingness to be flexible in their political viewpoints, and a lack of voice in the national conversation."
-fta

#1 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-10-10 10:35 PM | Reply

"According to the report, 25 percent of Americans are traditional or devoted conservatives, and their views are far outside the American mainstream. "

Deplorables.
Hillary was right.
And works out to be somewhere right around 50% of Trump voters.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-10 10:38 PM | Reply

Some 8 percent of Americans are progressive activists, and their views are even less typical.

Comprising about 95% of the DR Left.

#3 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-10-10 10:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#3 |

Funny, you and your client Dumbofidian keep claiming that most of the left here are DNC puppets.

Now, I know most of your werk around here pro Bozo, but, really, ya'll should get your lies straight.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2018-10-10 10:54 PM | Reply

PC culture is nothing more than an attempt to label, categorize, and divide people with the intention of turning them against one another.

They're political narcissists manipulating the masses to achieve an agenda. Part and parcel of communists, anarchists, and antifa's methods.

See: Authoritarianism

#5 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-10 11:11 PM | Reply

"PC culture is nothing more than an attempt to label, categorize, and divide people with the intention of turning them against one another."

I see
So you've turned against it.
It's working.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-11 12:51 AM | Reply

Of course we just like PC culture but just what is PC culture?

I've been told more than once that what some people consider PC culture I consider manners.

I've also been told that I'm not very PC LOL

#7 | Posted by Tor at 2018-10-11 01:42 AM | Reply

Is kneeling during the anthem politically correct?
How about standing?
Thanking veterans?
Praising god?

Both sides virtue signal, and both complain about others being politically incorrect.

#8 | Posted by bored at 2018-10-11 02:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Created by attention-seeking zealots always fervently searching for anything to be "offended" by and loudly bitch about..

-Old White Guy

#9 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2018-10-11 04:27 AM | Reply

The right hates civility so bad, they rebranded it as "political correctness" , claimed it was a leftist conspiracy, and completely abandoned it.

Republicans are uncivil dirtbags.

#10 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-10-11 05:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture

Inaccurate headline.

Should read "Americans are self centered -------- and strongly dislike that reality being pointed out to them".

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2018-10-12 12:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Or they just don't like sanctimonious ----- telling them how horrible they are.

#12 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-10-12 01:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Or they just don't like sanctimonious ----- telling them how horrible they are.

#12 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Don't be horrible and nobody will point it out. Easy peasy.

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2018-10-12 01:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Don't be horrible and nobody will point it out. Easy peasy.

Stop being horrible JPW.

#14 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-10-12 01:27 PM | Reply

It's not horrible to point out that nobody enjoys being described negatively, warranted or not.

Racists never own such a horrible label, even though it's warranted.

Bigoted -------- are the same.

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2018-10-12 01:44 PM | Reply

Don't be horrible and nobody will point it out. Easy peasy.
#13 | Posted by jpw

Your comment is full of aggressive white privilege. Check thyself. And while you're at it, flay thyself for being a cis-white-male as your ancestors were no doubt oppressive slaveowners and destroyers of indigenous societies.

#16 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-10-12 03:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

How you're perceived, traits which are beyond your control, cause woke persons to fit you into a label and category.

#17 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-10-12 03:22 PM | Reply

Don't be horrible and nobody will point it out. Easy peasy.

#13 | Posted by jpw

Translation: Agree with me or you're trash. Just like a fanatical SJW

#18 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-12 03:25 PM | Reply

"Translation: Agree with me or you're trash."

The thing is, that's actually true.

If you don't agree with me that racism, sexism, homophobia and the like are social evils, then trash is exactly what you are.

#19 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 03:28 PM | Reply

If you don't agree with me that racism, sexism, homophobia and the like are social evils, then trash is exactly what you are.

#19 | Posted by DirkStruan

Another phony argument from Trotsky. Support every goofy idea from the far left or you're "trash."

#20 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-12 03:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Support every goofy idea from the far left or you're "trash."

#20 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-10-12 03:43 PM | FLAG:

Goofy ideas like tolerance, respect, and equality. I know such ideas are toxic to your sort... except when applied to Nazis.

#21 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 03:46 PM | Reply

Those are "goofy" ideas?

#22 | Posted by YAV at 2018-10-12 03:46 PM | Reply

Incidentally, Dulli, do you know who Trotsky was? Or is it just a name you heard on a subreddit one day and just sort of ran with?

#23 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 03:47 PM | Reply

Goofy ideas like tolerance, respect, and equality. I know such ideas are toxic to your sort... except when applied to Nazis.
#21 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN

No need to hunt Nazi's to fuel your outrage.

Tell it to Maxine Waters, Don Lemon, and Joy Reid.

#24 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-12 04:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No need to hunt Nazi's to fuel your outrage.

BoyDirk on the hunt.

#25 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-10-12 05:06 PM | Reply

No, you see, black people are the only people allowed to say whatever they want, and white people have no say in it. Unless of coarse the black person isn't liberal, and you're a white liberal, then you can say nasty things to that black muddah fugguh.

#26 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-10-12 05:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

Was the hair dresser with the sick roundhouses warming his thumb? Anyone? Sycophant?

#27 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-10-12 05:12 PM | Reply

--do you know who Trotsky was?

Yeah, Dirkovich. He's the guy your hero Stalin had murdered with an ice axe.

#28 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-12 05:26 PM | Reply

#25

So much for plonking me forever, huh Rightostupid? The idiot cannot stop talking about me!

#29 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 05:45 PM | Reply

Yeah, Dirkovich. He's the guy your hero Stalin had murdered with an ice axe.

#28 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-10-12 05:26 PM | FLAG:

Makes it kind of strange that you call me both Trotsky and a Stalinist, then, eh Dulli? Almost like you are a bumper sticker spouting moron rather than a real scholar.

#30 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 05:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

--Makes it kind of strange that you call me both Trotsky and a Stalinist, then, eh Dulli?

Nothing strange about it all. They were both totalitarian marxist-leninists. Trotsky was instrumental in implementing Lenin's "Red Terror."

#31 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-12 05:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Nothing strange about it all."

Saying I am both two things so violently opposed to each other that one killed the other? Yeah, that's pretty strange. Unless you are fantastically intellectually lazy.

#32 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 05:58 PM | Reply

Could you throw in a few more adjectives there, Null?

#33 | Posted by YAV at 2018-10-12 06:01 PM | Reply

You're an idiot. Trotsky and Stalin had a power struggle over who gets to be the tyrant. Don't even waste my time with your ignorance of Bolshevik history.

#34 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-12 06:05 PM | Reply

"You're an idiot."

For pointing out the dramatic, diametrical opposition of two historical figures that you are obviously just pretending to have knowledge about?

"Trotsky and Stalin had a power struggle over who gets to be the tyrant."

I actually laughed out loud at this. You better found a better bumper sticker... the ones you are reading now seem to gloss over important details...

Honestly, watching you clumsily ape people with actual historical and political knowledge just never gets old!

#35 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 06:18 PM | Reply

I've wasted enough time on you, ignoramus. They were both tyrants and killers.I bet you don't even know what their ideological differences were. It certainly wasn't about democracy vs. dictatorship.

#36 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-12 06:27 PM | Reply

#36 I see a lot of Pol Pot in the young ‘un, myself. He and his Antifa ilk have a real Khmer Rouge vibe going in.

#37 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-10-12 06:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

36 I see a lot of Pol Pot in the young ‘un, myself. He and his Antifa ilk have a real Khmer Rouge vibe going in.

#37 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN AT 2018-10-12 06:36 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Big swing and a miss, Cletus.

#38 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 06:40 PM | Reply

#36

Dulli makes his usual simpering excuses and runs off like a whipped dog and then claims I am the ignorant one. Hilarious.

#39 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 06:46 PM | Reply

--#36 I see a lot of Pol Pot in the young ‘un, myself. He and his Antifa ilk have a real Khmer Rouge vibe going in.

He would rather not talk about that example of pure Maoism.

#40 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-12 06:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

youtu.be

#41 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-10-12 06:50 PM | Reply

He would rather not talk about that example of pure Maoism.

#40 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-10-12 06:50 PM | FLAG:

There you go again conflating different things.

#fakescholar

#42 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 06:55 PM | Reply

#42 All of these things are interdependent, junior. There are no clear lines of demarcation, whether ethically or philosophically, between your ilk and your progenitors.

"The intellectual sources of Khmer Rouge ideology included Maoism, European Marxism, Fanonism, perhaps Stalinism, and certainly Khmer nationalism. No single theorist minted the ideology and horrific reality of Democratic Kampuchea."

– Karl D. Jackson
‘Cambodia 1975–1978: Rendezvous With Death' (Princeton University Press, 1989)

#43 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-10-12 07:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"42 All of these things are interdependent, junior. There are no clear lines of demarcation, whether ethically or philosophically, between your ilk and your progenitors."

What a fantastic argument for broad brushing and intellectual laziness! Why, by this "reasoning" just about any ideology is complicit in some atrocity or other. So why go to all the time and effort of actually sorting between them and drawing those (necessarily imperfect) distinctions where we can, right? Pathetic.

#44 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 07:24 PM | Reply

#44 Yet you can't see (or acknowledgement) the difference between a Republican and a Nazi. Because everyone to the right of Bernie is a Nazi, so why bother, eh, comrade?

#45 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-10-12 07:42 PM | Reply

Comrade Dirk wants to muddy the waters with sophistry about irrelevant distinctions between marxist-leninist movements, organizations and leaders. Back in the 70s, I saw rival maoist, trotskyite and stalinist gangs accuse each other of being CIA fronts, counter-revolutionaries and capitalist roaders. Every group claimed to have the "correct line." They still do it. It's like a religion with many different sects.

#46 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-12 07:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Yet you can't see (or acknowledgement) the difference between a Republican and a Nazi."

Citation needed.

#47 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 07:44 PM | Reply

"Comrade Dirk wants to muddy the waters with sophistry about irrelevant distinctions between marxist-leninist movements, organizations and leaders."

No, you want to broad brush and ignore real distinctions in favor of your bumper sticker spouting pseudo-discourse.

#48 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 07:47 PM | Reply

--No, you want to broad brush and ignore real distinctions in favor of your bumper sticker spouting pseudo-discourse.

Citation needed.

#49 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-12 07:56 PM | Reply

#47, You've called ME a Nazi in another thread, and the last time I bothered to vote, it was for Bill Clinton in ‘92 - before I wised up and became a cynical old man before my time. Anyone who doesn't toe your party line is a Nazi. You both disseminate and believe quasi-Stalinist propaganda; when everyone is a "Nazi" to you and your ilk, it makes you feel better about confused old men being chased down the street for honking their horn at a bunch of Antifa thugs blocking traffic at rallies honoring dead murderous criminals. That's how Stalinists, Maosists, and the Khmer Rouge all made themselves feel better about their murmurous rampages: Their victims all must've been guilty of something, so the violence was justified. You're not cleaver by half, and you're certainly not fooling me.

#50 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-10-12 08:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Citation needed.

#49 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-10-12 07:56 PM | FLAG:

Post 46, line 2, stupid.

Your turn.

#51 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 08:00 PM | Reply

#50

Spare me your muddle-brained ramblings, Kakabean.

The thread to which you refer was literally one you set up to crow about how the Dalai Lamai gave cover to your sort of racist objections to immigration from "incompatible cultures." If pointing out the distressing similarities between your "separate the races" bile and that of the violent rightists of not-so-bygone eras is in any way unfair, you've yet to show me how. Instead you cry "Stalinism" and flee for cover.

#52 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 08:29 PM | Reply

#52, Broadbrush, you say?

Physician, heal thyself.

I said Sweden - a country with less than 3% of the United States'
population - ought not allow UNBRIDLED immigration from places fundamentally different from it in virtually every cultural way, if it wishes to preserve anything resembling its Swedish heritage and culture. Or is their culture not worth preserving?

#53 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-10-12 08:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

"#52, Broadbrush, you say?

Physician, heal thyself."

Tu quoque fallacy. Anyway, you haven't shown where I've broad brushed anything, stupid.

The rest of your post is just you doubling down on your "separate the races, like with like" bigotry. Disgusting.

#54 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 08:50 PM | Reply

#54 You didn't answer the question. Again. Coward.

#55 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-10-12 08:55 PM | Reply

#54 You didn't answer the question. Again. Coward.

#55 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN AT 2018-10-12 08:55 PM | FLAG:

Indeed not. The premise is bigoted garbage. Thanks for outting yourself yet again, you segregationist scumbag.

#56 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 09:02 PM | Reply

--you segregationist scumbag.

You mean like the new separate-but-equal on campuses: black graduation ceremonies, dormitories, student unions, etc?

Wonder what MLK would've have said about that.

#57 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-12 09:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You mean like the new separate-but-equal on campuses: black graduation ceremonies, dormitories, student unions, etc?

Wonder what MLK would've have said about that.

#57 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-10-12 09:07 PM | FLAG:

He'd say that sort of voluntary association for mutual support is completely different from the sort of state and organization enforced segregation he marched against and that those who don't see that are being either hopelessly ignorant or intentionally dishonest.

#58 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 09:11 PM | Reply

#56 So Swedish culture is to be sacrificed on the alter of whatever Stalinist cockamamie ---------- you're pedaling. Bigot. What'd the Swedes ever do to you? I suppose the Chinese invading Tibet is okay with you, and the Turkish genocide of Armenians, as well. Why are you so full of hate and prejudice?

#59 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-10-12 09:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

--He'd say that...

He'd say that integration was the goal, not voluntary segregation.

#60 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-12 09:15 PM | Reply

The world according to Dulli:

Concern with racism/sexism/inequality is the same as Stalinism, which is the same as Trotskyism, which is the same as Maoism, which is the same as Pol Pot's ideology, which is the same Antifa. Got it?

It is a wonder he can walk around without crashing u to things with all that cognitive dissonance buzzing in his skull....

#61 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 09:18 PM | Reply

#58. You understand that state universities, or any other universities accepting state/fed funds, cannot deny access to facilities or otherwise descriminate on the basis of race, gender, ethnicity, religion, etc.? Why do you support segregation? Why are you so filled with hatred for your fellow human beings. simply on the basis of these characteristics? Shame!

#62 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-10-12 09:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

He'd say that integration was the goal, not voluntary segregation.

#60 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-10-12 09:15 PM | FLAG:

There you go again. So which is it, ignorant or dishonest?

#63 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 09:20 PM | Reply

"So Swedish culture is to be sacrificed on the alter of whatever Stalinist cockamamie ---------- you're pedaling."

False premise, you stupid -----. You are the one peddling racist screeds about "incompatible cultures."

#64 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 09:21 PM | Reply

#62

Another idiot who can't distinguish between the exercise of voluntary association and enforced segregation. Some liberal, who knows not a thing about liberalism (classical or otherwise).

#65 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-10-12 09:24 PM | Reply

--False premise, you stupid -----. You are the one peddling racist screeds about "incompatible cultures."

Looks like Dr.Dirkenstein is having one of his legendary melt downs. He's created the monster. "It's alive!"

#66 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-12 09:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

the difference between a Republican and a Nazi."
Citation needed.

#47 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN

LOL. There it is.

#67 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-12 09:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#66 Nulli, Buddy, I'm so full of Mexican beer and la Yerba buena right now, I could flog the poor little bugger ‘til dawn and giggle my ass off the whole time. I ain't close to being sleepy! I'm gonna take a break and nosh on some tacos, but I'll check in from time to time, just to make sure he's breathing okay.

HO-HO-HO!!

G-damn, I LOVE the DR!!!!

#68 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-10-12 09:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

- the exercise of voluntary association

Unless they're Caucasian, obviously; that would be Nazi.

Please confirm.

#69 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-12 09:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Your comment is full of aggressive white privilege. Check thyself. And while you're at it, flay thyself for being a cis-white-male as your ancestors were no doubt oppressive slaveowners and destroyers of indigenous societies.

#16 | POSTED BY GONOLES92

Had to FF that one.

#70 | Posted by jpw at 2018-10-12 09:53 PM | Reply

Translation: Agree with me or you're trash. Just like a fanatical SJW

#18 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Yeah, sure. It's that binary.

It's not hard to figure out, nulli. There are basic standards of behavior that everyone expects to be treated by. When you venture outside of that with people for reasons beyond their control you lose the ability to be treated as cordially as you'd like.

Expecting those basic standards of interaction is what's commonly referred to as "PC" and is, IMO, a recent expansion of the definition.

#71 | Posted by jpw at 2018-10-12 09:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Almost like you are a bumper sticker spouting moron rather than a real scholar.

#30 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN

Struth!

-Dethspud

#72 | Posted by jpw at 2018-10-12 10:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You're an idiot. Trotsky and Stalin had a power struggle over who gets to be the tyrant. Don't even waste my time with your ignorance of Bolshevik history.

#34 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

You mean like you waste our time with it because you're stuck in the 1960's?

#73 | Posted by jpw at 2018-10-12 10:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

71 | Posted by jpw

You're ignoring hundreds of examples of SJW intolerance and insanity. Or maybe you're not aware of them because aren't reported in the MSM and liberal websites. Just today I came across this.

Canadian Profs Claim STEM Promotes ‘Eurocentrism' and ‘White Supremacy'

Three Canadian professors recently penned an editorial in an influential academic journal arguing that teaching students STEM (science, technology, engineering, and math) helps perpetuate "patriarchy," "heteronormativity," and other social ills.

Led by University of Alberta professor Marc Higgins, the research editorial "Displacing Methodologies in STEM Education: Theory for Eco-Social Justice" argues that STEM education practices, called "methodologies," reinforce a variety of social ills.

STEM education practices -- such as the traditional way of teaching math -- produce "patriarchy, heteronormativity, white supremacy, Eurocentrism, (neo-)colonialism, able-ism, classism, labor inequity, anthropocentrism, and/or others," the professors claim.

While Higgins declined an interview to clarify, other academics have made similar arguments. Most notable is a University of Illinois academic, who argued that algebra and geometry skills perpetuate "unearned privilege" among white people.

In the recent essay, the Canadian professors go on to vaguely argue that STEM teaching is an "important site in which the movements of power occur, differentially (re)producing articulations of dominance."

"We need to challenge the mask of innocence and ask ourselves how relations of domination and subordination regulate encounters in classrooms," they argue, quoting Elizabeth McKinley, an early adopter of the social justice STEM movement.

But there's hope for the future.

If STEM teachers adopt an explicitly "eco-social justice" stance, the oppression caused by STEM education might be disrupted. This stance can manifest in a variety of educational approaches professors might take.

STEM teachers can take an "anti-oppressive, anti-racist and critical race-based, decolonizing and de/colonizing [sic], -----, Indigenous, gender-equitable, post-colonial, community-based and participatory, critical place-based, [and] inter-species" approach to teaching, they suggest.

Going forward, the professors hope that other STEM professors will take heed.

"For this work to refuse, resist, and resignify the field or STEM ... requires critical mass, as well as creative acts of perception and practice: again, STEM education needs methodological disruption and displacement for the possibly of justice to-come."

This type of thinking about STEM being oppressive isn't new.

For example, last year, a group of American professors argued in a textbook that math classes are "inaccessible and oppressive" for students lacking the "privilege and power" of their teachers. There are countless other examples.

The editorial was published in the newest issue of the Canadian Journal of STEM, one of the leading international journals for STEM teachers. The journal also recently published pieces on "Feminist Tinkering With Science" and "Blackness Studies in STEM Education.

pjmedia.com

#74 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-12 10:09 PM | Reply

#65 What if a student decides he or she doesn't want to "volunteer" to be excluded from an otherwise "voluntarily" segregated event in a public facility? They can't legally be excluded from attending such an event, right? I know; it's part of my job. I gather you think it would be okay to coerce such a student to dissuade himself or herself from exercising their rights to equal access. Maybe you and the rest of your mob would pull up your masks and chase that student, swinging your bicycle chains and spraying your mace.

Why can't you put a little love in your heart, Dirtstain? What the world needs now is love, sweet love. br />

#75 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-10-12 10:16 PM | Reply

#74 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

No, it's because I'm aware that the odd incident of that happening is probably not even scraping the upper limit of 1% of academics.

But it gets a lot of play on right wing "news" sites because it fits their narrative of universities being left wing ---- holes.

#76 | Posted by jpw at 2018-10-12 10:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--No, it's because I'm aware that the odd incident of that happening is probably not even scraping the upper limit of 1% of academics.

Actually, no. It started in the liberal arts, as might be expected. Leftists vastly outnumber conservatives. Democrats outnumber Republicans 10 to 1. Self-identified Marxists are up to 18 percent in the social sciences with the rest spouting a far left ideology. English literature has been taken over by marxists and deconstructionists.

And now, the cancer is spreading to the hard sciences, as the link indicates. The trends are obvious.

#77 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-12 10:34 PM | Reply

--You mean like you waste our time with it because you're stuck in the 1960's?

No one is forcing you to read my posts. I was responding to Dirk, who is always pushing Marxist twaddle.

#78 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-12 10:35 PM | Reply

"STEM education practices -- such as the traditional way of teaching math -- produce "patriarchy, heteronormativity, white supremacy, Eurocentrism, (neo-)colonialism, able-ism, classism, labor inequity, anthropocentrism, and/or others," the professors claim."

I'm just curious where Nullifidian thinks all those things really do come from.
Since it's not from education, then where?

#79 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-12 10:51 PM | Reply

And now, the cancer is spreading to the hard sciences, as the link indicates. The trends are obvious.

#77 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Doubtful.

You're showing a handful of people that are trying to speak for STEM as a whole. Four disciplines, three of which are broad terms with many sub categories.

I think you're hyperventilating more than a little, nulli.

#80 | Posted by jpw at 2018-10-12 11:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

- Since it's not from education, then where?

Russian Facebook ads?

#81 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-12 11:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Dirk, who is always pushing Marxist twaddle.

That he barely understands...it's like reading fortune cookies written by Lenin's retarded brother.

#82 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-10-12 11:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"Don't be horrible and nobody will point it out. Easy peasy."

Is Colin Kapernick horrible? As someone almost noted upthread, it seems he's challenging political correctness.

#83 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-10-13 10:46 AM | Reply

Interestingly, Bill Maher discussed this topic with his panel on Real Time last night. Most of them were deflecting and staunchly defending PC culture. Maher seems to actually get that this is what helped Trump get elected in the majority of states in middle America. The woman sitting next to him was nattering on about the patriarchy and conflating white privilege with white supremacy.

#84 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-10-13 01:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Is Colin Kapernick horrible? As someone almost noted upthread, it seems he's challenging political correctness.

#83 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

Ummmm no he's not "challenging political correctness".

He's challenging unarmed black men being killed by cops.

#85 | Posted by jpw at 2018-10-13 06:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#85, he's doing both simultaneously. Those who demand that everyone stands during the pledge of allegiance or national anthem are engaging in political correctness.

#86 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-10-13 08:28 PM | Reply

I'll stick with what he says he's doing, not your spin on it.

#87 | Posted by jpw at 2018-10-13 08:59 PM | Reply

"Is Colin Kapernick horrible?"

Well I wouldn't start him in my fantasy league on Sunday, if that's what you're asking.

#88 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-13 09:14 PM | Reply

So you don't think those who chastise others for not standing during the anthem are a part of PC culture?

#89 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-10-13 09:34 PM | Reply

No. I think they're just brainwashed redneck yokels. Their only concern is 'Murica!

#90 | Posted by jpw at 2018-10-13 09:44 PM | Reply

LOL @ that question though.

From Wikipedia, The term political correctness (adjectivally: politically correct; commonly abbreviated to PC or P.C.) is used to describe language, policies, or measures that are intended to avoid offense or disadvantage to members of particular groups in society.[1][2][3][4][5] Since the late 1980s, the term has come to refer to avoiding language or behavior that can be seen as excluding, marginalizing, or insulting groups of people considered disadvantaged or discriminated against, especially groups defined by sex or race. In public discourse and the media, it is generally used as a pejorative, implying that these policies are excessive.[6][3][7][8][9][10][11]

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So, I'm just trying to figure out how Trump and Jerry Jones castigating Kaepernick was intended to avoid offense or disadvantage to members of particular groups in society.

Unless, in Sentinel's world, and the disadvantaged members of society are the people who are deeply offended when the players kneel. In this world, Trump is protecting them from a flagrant display intended only to remind them of their marginalized and victimized status. It would be like if they came out to play with swastikas on their uniforms, which in Sentinel's world they should, because that would be good luck.

#91 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-13 09:57 PM | Reply

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