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Thursday, October 11, 2018

The mystery continues. Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, known for his criticism of the Saudi government and its crown prince, entered the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on October 2, and never came out. Turkish investigators probing his disappearance say that he was murdered, or possibly abducted, in the consulate by a 15-member Saudi squad. The allegation has turned up the heat on Saudi Arabia, which denies any wrongdoing. As the Saudis rightly point out, the Turkish investigators have no hard evidence.



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"Saudi-Turkey tensions are now escalating. On Monday, Turkey requested a search of the Saudi consulate, while Turkish authorities said they were investigating a black van with diplomatic plates that they believe may have carried Khashoggi from the consulate. Turkish authorities recently released CCTV footage showing Khashoggi entering the consulate and several diplomatic vehicles purportedly carrying Saudi intelligence officers and officials arriving at and leaving the facility."

#1 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-10 09:35 PM | Reply

Driving Turkey into Russia's welcoming protection racket is going to be part of Trump's legacy.
Just not sure if it's going to be anything more than a footnote when all is said and done.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-10 09:37 PM | Reply

It's about pipelines for oil and gas contracts.

The Saudis don't have the power they once held over and threatened the world with.

#3 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-10 09:47 PM | Reply

The Saudis never threatened the world, that's ridiculous.

Unless you think not selling a thing you own can somehow be perceived as a threat.

He threatened me! He wouldn't sell me that oil! (This is basically the foreign policy you claim to hate. Now you're parroting it.)

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-11 12:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

America's close relationship with Saudi Arabia is a national embarrassment. Anyone still remember 9-11?

#5 | Posted by danni at 2018-10-11 01:49 PM | Reply

Unless you think not selling a thing you own can somehow be perceived as a threat.
He threatened me! He wouldn't sell me that oil! (This is basically the foreign policy you claim to hate. Now you're parroting it.)


Over the last 60 years, the Saudi's have repeatedly threatened and rattled markets with 'we won't sell'.
... and often specifically tied to support of Israel during a time, which still exists, where the world is dependent on oil.

Now that peak oil theories went bust, along with worldwide exploration, there are multiple markets.
Again, the Saudi's no longer hold the card they once played so often. or at least the card is much, much smaller.

#6 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-11 02:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Over the last 60 years, the Saudi's have repeatedly threatened and rattled markets with 'we won't sell'."

Markets, you say?
Buying and selling?

Thanks, Capitalism!

Little old ladies sometimes refuse to sell their house.

I suppose they're threatening too.

I suppose you might even think the Kelo decision was the appropriate way to neutralize that kind of threat.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-11 02:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is Saudi securalization. Its muslim brotherhood (kash's side) vs wahhabis vs the crown prince. A lot more are going to die.

#8 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-10-11 03:01 PM | Reply

The Saudis don't have the power they once held over and threatened the world with.


Trump on possibility of punishing Saudi Arabia for apparently murdering a dissident journalist: "I don't like stopping massive amounts of money that's being poured into our country... they are spending $110b on military equipment and on things that create jobs for this country."

#9 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2018-10-11 03:37 PM | Reply

Saudi Arabia Must Answer to Khashoggi Allegations?

Not according to Trump today.

#10 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-10-11 03:48 PM | Reply

dissident journalist

#9 | POSTED BY DEREK_WILDSTAR AT 2018-10-11 03:37 PM | REPLY

Dissident political activist. He used to be a close adviser of Bin Salman, and before that, the editor of one of the Kingdom's propaganda machines. He's part of the same organization that the Obama administration was more than happy to back keeping out of power through military coup in Egypt. It's a difference of opinion. Do you install theocracy through force, the Wahabi way? Or do you do it through abusive majority rule, the Brotherhood way? Good riddance to all of them.

#11 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-10-11 06:00 PM | Reply


"Saudi Arabia Must Answer to Khashoggi Allegations?
Not according to Trump today."

I just wish they'd stop giving ideas to a copycat wannabe dictator like Trump.

#12 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-10-12 07:12 AM | Reply

This guy's father was a bad dude. International arms dealer.

#13 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-10-12 08:54 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Scrub that, they were cousins: He is a cousin of the late, high-profile billionaire Adnan Khashoggi

#14 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-10-12 08:55 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump must have known of this murder within 15 minutes yet he still claims US-Saudi relations are excellent, with the caveat, "We'll have to see". Trump takes Saudi money and so does Kushner. Trump is incapable of speaking truthfully about anything. He is consistent in his embracing of torture to which we can now ad murder. Arms sales is all that matters to Trump, in amounts which he greatly exaggerates.

#15 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-10-12 09:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Well, he's right. This does not damage US-Saudi relations. It improves the relationship by mitigating a rival attempting to undermine the throne. You can't build a hegemony by alienating allies just because they murder their political opponents.

#16 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-10-12 10:26 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Turkey has 'shocking' audio and visual evidence of Saudi journalist's killing - www.cnn.com

"The Washington Post reported late Thursday that the Turkish government had told US officials that it was in possession of audio and video recordings proving that Khashoggi was killed in the consulate, citing unnamed US and Turkish sources.
The audio recording in particular provided "persuasive and gruesome evidence" that a Saudi team dispatched to Istanbul was responsible for Khashoggi's death, the Post reported."

I'll wait for the video and evidence, but if true, the Saudi's have been caught red-handed - literally - killing an opposition journalist, and should face charges at the Hague. The entire world needs to unite for this one, and Trump better get on board, or face an avalanche of blow-back.

I expect Congress to get involved in a bipartisan rebuke of SA and calls for justice. They need to be cut off the teet.

#17 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-12 12:43 PM | Reply

They will not be. A few congress members will use it for a dog and pony show. They'll all continue to vote for US led hegemony, which means an alliance with Saudi Arabia irrespective of their leadership.

They've been imprisoning and killing activists for decades. America does not car.

#18 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-10-12 01:06 PM | Reply


#19 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-10-12 01:06 PM | Reply

Must they?

Or else what? Trump ain't gonna do ---- against Saudi Arabia. They have him wrapped around their bejeweled little fingers.

#20 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2018-10-12 06:55 PM | Reply

We should check MBS's calendar. If there isn't an entry that says "maim and murder journalist" he's innocent. Jeffylube told me.

#21 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-10-12 07:16 PM | Reply

Trump and Kushner have great plans for Trump's post-presidency and they all involve huge amounts of Saudi money.

Why would we expect Trump to do anything to upset that applecart as long as he has a rubber-stamp Congress and Cabinet?

If you want these grifters out of power you only have one option. VOTE THEM OUT!


#22 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-10-13 04:36 AM | Reply

Decades of U.S. rhetoric about freedom and democracy have always rung hollow as the U.S. has chosen as its key allies not only the NATO and Japanese bourgeois democracies but the dictatorships of Park Chung-hee, Ferdinand Marcos, Suharto, Thai juntas, Pakistani juntas, Latin American juntas, the Greek junta, Francisco Franco, Iran's Shah, Haile Selassi, Mobutu Sese Seko, Augusto Pinochet, Fulgencio Batista, Papa Doc in Haiti ... "The Free World" as taught in U.S. schools comprised the non-communist world.

and we can't denounce the Saudi's even after 9-11, even after they refused to co-operate in the post 9-11 investigation... talk about oil addiction...Saudi Arabia certainly a candidate for worst country to live in in the entire world.

#23 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-10-13 09:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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