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Halloween can get spooky for children in Virginia towns for a totally different reason. In one town, children who are older than 12 who go trick-or-treating can be jailed and fined.

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This is insane.

#1 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-10-10 10:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The nanny state in action.

#2 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-10 10:48 AM | Reply

Some older Trick or Treaters.

youtu.be

#3 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-10-10 11:15 AM | Reply

Against local government now are you?
How about local Republican government?
Y'all seem to love authoritarians.
What's wrong now?

Here's Chesapeake's Governing body:

• Mayor Rick W. West - Republican
• Vice Mayor Dr. John de Triquet - Republican
• R. Stephen Best, Sr. - Republican
• Matthew R. "Matt" Hamel - Unknown
• Robert C. Ike, Jr. - Republican
• Dwight M. Parker - Democrat
• S.Z. "Debbie" Ritter - Republican
• Susan R. Vitale - Republican
• Dr. Ella Ward - Democrat

#4 | Posted by YAV at 2018-10-10 11:16 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Against local government now are you?

No.

How about local Republican government?

They can be stupid too.

This thread isn't about a political party. It's about an incredibly stupid law enacted at a local level. The stupidity of this law is precisely why I support federalism. The community in which I reside would never stand for this law being passed.

The only one bringing political parties onto this thread is you, Yav.

#5 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-10-10 11:33 AM | Reply

Read #2, Jeff.

#6 | Posted by YAV at 2018-10-10 11:47 AM | Reply

I did, Yav.

Nulli said "Nanny state". He didn't say "Democratic Party". There is no shortage of nanny state authoritarianism within the GOP.

#7 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-10-10 11:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

--Read #2, Jeff.

What about it? Did I mention a political party? Only you have on this thread.

#8 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-10 11:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--There is no shortage of nanny state authoritarianism within the GOP

Like the war on drugs. Corky and myself are strong advocates for legalizing magic mushrooms.

#9 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-10 11:55 AM | Reply

"Nanny State" is a conservative term (etymology) used derisively to attack welfare and other social support programs.
If the intent was to use it more broadly, then fine. I rescind.

#10 | Posted by YAV at 2018-10-10 12:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Nanny State" is a conservative term (etymology) used derisively to attack welfare and other social support programs.

That's not actually how I've construed that term. It's more like helicopter parenting - constantly enacted rules and laws to govern every aspect of our lives. A couple of examples: banning tag during recess - making it a misdemeanor for kids 13+ for trick-or-treating - banning large containers of soda - banning plastic drinking straws - etc.

If the intent was to use it more broadly, then fine. I rescind

It was, thank you.

Given how you thought it was being used your response in #4 makes much more sense. There are certain posters on this site who will take just about any issue and find away to circle it back around toward somehow bashing the GOP or conservatives. That isn't your M.O. which is why #4 caught me by surprise.

#11 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-10-10 12:53 PM | Reply

Thanks Jeff.
BTW - do you know how much work that was to find out all their party affiliations? LMAO!

#12 | Posted by YAV at 2018-10-10 12:56 PM | Reply

Thanks Jeff.
BTW - do you know how much work that was to find out all their party affiliations? LMAO!

#12 | POSTED BY YAV

LOL! Actually, I do. I don't know why but rarely is it quick or easy to dig up party affiliation at the state or local level. It's frustrating.

#13 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-10-10 12:58 PM | Reply

-"Nanny State" is a conservative term (etymology) used derisively to attack welfare and other social support programs.

I see your point, but Republicans are guilty of being huge enablers of such programs and are guilty of continuing them despite their objections to them

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2018-10-10 01:08 PM | Reply

#14 - yes, they are. Point taken, Eberly :)

#15 | Posted by YAV at 2018-10-10 01:25 PM | Reply

This is no more insane than MJ prohibition. Much less insane considering the scope.

#16 | Posted by bored at 2018-10-10 01:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

When I was growing up, my mom searched my candy for razor blades and drugs.

I never understood who would want to waste good dope on kids, without even seeing it in person?

There was a mailman who gave kids cherry bombs. We'd light them and put them in mailboxes.

#17 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-10 07:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Halloween is ------- stupid. We should stop observing it.
I know a bunch of you will say it's all fun, get over yourself etc.
It is all based on a bunch of superstitious --------, and you all know it.

#18 | Posted by woe_is_W at 2018-10-10 10:09 PM | Reply

--#18 | Posted by woe_is_W

And they call me a curmudgeon. What a sourpuss.

#19 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-10 10:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

12 is to old. Should be out drinking by that age instead of out begging for candy.

#20 | Posted by patron at 2018-10-10 10:20 PM | Reply

Conservative fascism in action.

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-10-10 10:34 PM | Reply

Should be out drinking by that age

Drinking and..?

Drinking and..?

Drinking and..?

Molesting!

It can get you a seat on the Supreme Court of the United States.

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-10-10 10:37 PM | Reply

I'm glad you appear to be opposed to this, Clown.

#23 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-10-10 10:38 PM | Reply

"Nanny State" is a conservative term (etymology) used derisively to attack welfare and other social support programs.
If the intent was to use it more broadly, then fine. I rescind.
#10 | POSTED BY YAV

Don't rescind, Yav.

Here's a lesson in Trumpublican speak 101: They lie to your face and walk all over your back.

---- them.

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-10-10 10:41 PM | Reply

Don't rescind, Yav.

He qualified the conditions that needed to be met in order to rescind and said conditions were met.

Pick your battles wisely. As a clown I would expect you to understand this. You're dealing with makeup, wigs, trying to juggle bowling pins and whatnot...you can't afford to lose focus.

#25 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-10-10 10:44 PM | Reply

"Conservative fascism in action."

A curfew for young people is a fascist action? Did anyone actually read the article?

#26 | Posted by JordyPete at 2018-10-11 08:42 AM | Reply

There ya go, Jeff.
A conservative Trump lover is all for this and is indignant that anyone would call this fascist.
Just ignore the self-identification as "Libertarian" he has indicated in his profile...

#27 | Posted by YAV at 2018-10-11 10:50 AM | Reply

"It is all based on a bunch of superstitious --------, and you all know it."

Yeah, and let's get rid of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny while we're at it. Kids like costumes and tick or treating, I love seeing them have fun. I must be a superstitious lunatic.

#28 | Posted by danni at 2018-10-11 11:00 AM | Reply

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#29 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2018-10-11 11:15 AM | Reply

Add "nanny state" to the list of banned terms that are triggering to democratics. Local governments is most places I've lived are non-partisan.

#30 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-10-11 11:24 AM | Reply

" Kids like costumes and tick or treating, I love seeing them have fun."
I love it too! It's a great tradition. Who the heck cares what it's based on. I love bringing foreign kids and (and adults too) around the neighborhood when they visit. It's so unexpected

#31 | Posted by JordyPete at 2018-10-11 11:47 AM | Reply

Local governments is most places I've lived are non-partisan.

#30 | POSTED BY VISITOR_ AT 2018-10-11 11:24 AM | FLAG:

Non-partisan elections place more burden on voters to seek information about individual candidates, rather than party platform. While many would view this as a positive, if voters do not do their research, the result is an even less informed electorate, which can lead to lower voter participation.

For all else they may bring, party identification does usually give voters some idea of where a candidate stands on certain issues.

Figures you would like formats that lead to a less informed electorate and lower participation rates

#32 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-10-11 02:12 PM | Reply

I never said I preferred non-partisan elections, just stated that that is the way most local election are where I have lived to demonstrate that "nanny state" is not a Democratic dog whistle. However, voting straight D or straight R is a lazy and stupid way to vote.

#33 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-10-11 11:20 PM | Reply

Article 58, Section 666: Counter-revolutionary trick-or-treating; 25 years.

#34 | Posted by Heinrich at 2018-10-12 01:50 AM | Reply

#34 | Posted by Heinrich at 2018-10-12 01:50 AM | Reply | Flag Sock Puppet Account of TOR

#35 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-10-12 03:20 AM | Reply

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