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Wednesday, October 10, 2018

They say Schopenhauer was depressed, but at least he never had to read about the F-35. The best summary of the F-35 program comes, believe it or not, from John McCain: "It has been an incredible waste of the taxpayers' dollar and it hurts the credibility of our acquisition process, our defense industry ... [and] ... reinforces the view of some of us that the military-industrial- congressional complex that President Eisenhower warned us about is alive and well."

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I've written about this rotten excuse for a fighter plane several times. Last time, I tried to put it as bluntly as possible:

"The USAF loves the F-35 more than any other project in history ... [b]ecause it's a disaster. The biggest, most expensive, most shameful procurement scandal in American history. I hear you asking, ‘Wait, wait -- are you saying it's even worse than the F-104 Starfighter, the plane the Bundeswehr called "The Flying Coffin"?' Yes, I am. Because as bad as the F-104 was, it didn't cost $337 million per plane. That's the projected cost of this godawful flying pooch, the F-35. $337 million per plane. Yes, folks, for slightly more than one billion dollars, you get three very bad airplanes."

This is a scam worth $1.5 trillion dollars, an obvious scam, the kind that doesn't even show any respect for the suckers it's robbing.

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This is a scam worth $1.5 trillion dollars, an obvious scam, the kind that doesn't even show any respect for the suckers it's robbing.

NEWSWORTHY.

I said before this is a turkey not an eagle. Or more accurately... a chicken. A chicken that will be turned into chicken-nuggets if it tries to fly out of trouble.

I hope the USAF and NAVY and the MARINES fall in love with this chicken/turkey so bad they let all their other planes rust away.

#1 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-10-10 07:45 AM | Reply

Dude, your headlines are the most predictable...

#2 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-10-10 08:13 AM | Reply

Can it fly in the rain yet?

"For this trillion-dollar-plus investment we get a plane that was crushed by an F-16 during a recent competition. The F-35 is far slower, with less than half the range, and sustained-turn- performance that is outdated by decades. It's not just that billions of dollars are being wasted, it is that we need that money to spend on other programs."

www.foxnews.com

Ouch.

#3 | Posted by 726 at 2018-10-11 03:21 PM | Reply

#3 I'm as big of a detractor of the F-35 as anyone, but to trot out that it lost in a simulated dogfight with a F-16 is disingenuous - the F-35 in question wasn't equipped with it's stealth skin and wasn't equipped with its advanced avionics. It's not designed to dogfight because it's not an interceptor like the F-22 is. When engaged with interceptors it's designed to kill from BVR and never even be spotted by bogey radar. It is capable of achieving that objective.

Also, because of it's stealth capabilities coupled with its advanced avionics, a tactical bombing mission that would have normally required the 5 bombing attack planes, plus 2 tankers and a dozen support fighters can now be accomplished at a fraction of the cost: 5 F-35's plus 1 tanker.

#4 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-10-11 03:31 PM | Reply

Entire F35 fleet grounded.

www.bbc.com

Rubbish plane can hacked.

www.bbc.com

#5 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-10-11 03:34 PM | Reply

It is capable of achieving that objective.

Not any more. Radar tech has improved a lot faster and further than stealth tech.

#6 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-10-11 03:37 PM | Reply

They ground entire fleets anytime there is a crash. That's how you competently conduct an investigation.

This article is written with a child like knowledge of modern air war.

#7 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-10-11 06:50 PM | Reply

This article is written with a child like knowledge of modern air war.

If you look at his other posts he looooves the A-10 and is pissed that they are trying to cancel it.

#8 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-10-11 08:26 PM | Reply

Righto - I love that A-10 and don't want to see it cancelled. I also recognize what the F-35 is in terms of advancing war capabilities. Fact is, the more advanced our weaponry becomes the more our adversaries will engage guerrilla warfare and the more valuable the A-10 becomes. Ditto the B-52.

#9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-10-11 08:30 PM | Reply

#4 | Posted by JeffJ

"It's not designed to dogfight because it's not an interceptor like the F-22 is"

That's right. It can turn, it can't climb, it cant run, and it cant fight. For the price of the development project alone, we could have bought about 600 new F-22's, which give us over 800, and nobody on Earth would ever mess with us again. And there was supposed to be a carrier version (YF-23 was already equipped for carrier duty, but there where good reasons to go with YF-22).

#10 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2018-10-11 08:45 PM | Reply

Lots of --------- in here. and a musky smell.

Old Spice.

#11 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-12 12:16 AM | Reply

#11 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Holy ----... do you ever shut up?

#12 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-10-12 12:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#11 | Posted by SheepleSchism

It's called a "wargasm", for your information.

And what's wrong with Old Spice?

#13 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2018-10-12 02:42 AM | Reply

> Like an Albanian Mushroom?

without reading the article, I'll take a shot: because it's stuck to the ground, and, if made airborne, quickly and unceremoniously returns to such a state? I'll have to check and see if I'm correct.

The F-35 is unlike an Albanian mushroom in that the latter is not an object of profit for the military manufacturing pimps.

#14 | Posted by Heinrich at 2018-10-12 03:08 AM | Reply

#14 | Posted by Heinrich at 2018-10-12 03:08 AM | Reply | Flag: Sock Puppet Account of TOR, created just today

He will now make random posts everywhere to try and make himself "legitimate". LOL

#15 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-10-12 03:13 AM | Reply

More or less correct, absent some technical details. Those involved with this debacle deserve to wear a rope necklace.

#16 | Posted by Heinrich at 2018-10-12 03:19 AM | Reply

> Sock Puppet Account of TOR, created just today

This will be my last response to you: Stop embarrassing yourself while you're ahead, little puppy.

#17 | Posted by Heinrich at 2018-10-12 03:21 AM | Reply

#17 | Posted by Heinrich at 2018-10-12 03:21 AM | Reply | Flag: Sock Puppet Account of TOR

#18 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-10-12 03:25 AM | Reply

engage guerrilla warfare and the more valuable the A-10 becomes. Ditto the B-52.

#9 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-10-11 08:30 PM | REPLY

That makes both of them liabilities, not assets. The A-29 does the job of both at a small fraction of the operational costs. The fighter mafia hates it because it's not a jet.

A weapon platform designed to kill soviet tanks, or nuke Moscow, is not a cost effective weapon system for fighting guys in Toyotas with RPGs.

#19 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-10-12 06:48 AM | Reply

The A-29 does the job of both at a small fraction of the operational costs.

No, the fighter mafia (of which I am a proud member) doesn't hate the attack planes, we just realize that air superiority wins major conflicts.

I am actually a big fan of the A-29 as a support plane for JSOC operations, it makes no sense to use a plane that costs north of $70,000/hr to bomb a undefended bomb factory or tunnel complex.

#20 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-10-12 01:42 PM | Reply

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