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Tuesday, October 09, 2018

The youngest child to come before the bench in federal immigration courtroom No. 14 was so small she had to be lifted into the chair. Even the judge in her black robes breathed a soft "aww" as her latest case perched on the brown leather. Her feet stuck out from the seat in small gray sneakers, her legs too short to dangle. Her fists were stuffed under her knees. As soon as the caseworker who had sat her there turned to go, she let out a whimper that rose to a thin howl, her crumpled face a bursting dam. The girl, Fernanda Jacqueline Davila, was 2 years old: brief life, long journey. The caseworker, a big-boned man from the shelter that had been contracted to raise her since she was taken from her grandmother at the border in late July, was the only person in the room she had met before that day.

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So this is what America has become.

***2 year-old child ripped away from grandmother, forced to go to court***

"Aww..."

#1 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2018-10-09 06:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is what Trump has reduced our nation to

#2 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-10-09 07:28 PM | Reply

The 2 year old should have registered as a (R)epublican then she could have gotten away with anything.

#3 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-10-09 07:32 PM | Reply

Why would a 'grandmother' imperil a 2yo child by trying to illegally cross the border of a nation from which she has received no visa to enter?

Tens of millions of people live, work, eat, drink, rent apartments, and spend their entire lives thriving in South America, Central America, and Mexico.

You dingbats act like it's some barren apocalyptic wasteland. Wait, what's this? Oh, it's a long list of factories hiring in Mexico - tacna.net

#4 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-09 07:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Honduran researchers reveal that there are currently over 17,000 children orphaned by femicides according to a study carried out in the country over the past 5 months.

At the Tuesday "The Invisible Victims of Femicide," conference in Tegucigalpa, the Association of Quality of Life (LCA) and the Women's Tribe Against Femicides presented their findings which showed that there are more than 17,000 orphaned children in the country, as a result of rampant femicides.

According to the report, most orphans are being taken care of by grandmothers or aunts, since most fathers are responsible for the mother's death.

Numbers from the Honduran National Statistics Institute show that as of 2016 there were 266,037 orphaned children in the country 47,572 of them had lost their mothers.

teleSUR

#5 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2018-10-09 07:49 PM | Reply

Plenty of work in Mexico - en.wikipedia.org

#6 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-09 07:56 PM | Reply

Plenty of work in Mexico - en.wikipedia.org
#6 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2018-10-09 07:56 PM

You piece of --------- trash.

#7 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2018-10-09 08:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You piece of --------- trash.

#7 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT

How in the world did that set you off?

You get angry at some strange things.

#8 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-10-09 08:24 PM | Reply

That nut thinks "the jews" stole gold and human DNA at the Towers on 9/11.

#9 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-09 08:28 PM | Reply

Why would a 'grandmother' imperil a 2yo child by trying to illegally cross the border of a nation from which she has received no visa to enter?

#4 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Why would you deflect from a legal system putting a 2 year old on the stand to his grandmother?

Oh because you can't defend trump's policies, so just like trump, you deflect and try to blame some brown person.

#10 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-10-09 08:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Why would a 'grandmother' imperil a 2yo child by trying to illegally cross the border of a nation from which she has received no visa to enter?"

Because fleeing violent drug gangs is the lesser of two perils.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-09 08:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#4 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

#8 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Inbreds, how many times do your dumb asses need to be reminded that seeking asylum is not illegal?

#12 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-10-09 08:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-- how many times do your dumb asses need to be reminded that seeking asylum is not illegal?

They can seek asylum in Mexico. It's a big country. Spanish speaking too.

#13 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-09 08:47 PM | Reply

They can seek asylum in the United States of America. It's a big country. Spanish speaking too.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-09 08:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They can seek asylum in Mexico. It's a big country. Spanish speaking too.

#13 | Posted by nullifidian

You think brown people should stick to countries that have mostly brown people, and america was meant for white people. Just say it. You'll feel better.

#15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-10-09 08:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No reason to travel the length of Mexico to get into the US, especially if taking children. It makes no sense.

#16 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-09 08:56 PM | Reply

No reason to travel the length of Mexico to get into the US, especially if taking children. It makes no sense.

#16 | Posted by nullifidian

Yeah why would anyone want to live in the US instead of Mexico? In fact, you should move there now!

#17 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-10-09 09:01 PM | Reply

No reason not to travel the length of Mexico to get into the US, especially if taking children. It makes perfect sense.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-09 09:03 PM | Reply

--Yeah why would anyone want to live in the US instead of Mexico?

So you admit that they are economic migrants, not refugees.

#19 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-09 09:04 PM | Reply

Why would a 'grandmother' imperil a 2yo child by trying to illegally cross the border of a nation from which she has received no visa to enter?

I don't know. Why would our government separate the child from its grandmother and then hold an immigration hearing for a two year old with no guardian present?

I mean, you can think the grandmother was stupid but that doesn't mean we should be stupid too.

#20 | Posted by JOE at 2018-10-09 09:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So you admit the US treats asylum seekers and political refugees better than Mexico does.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-09 09:08 PM | Reply

the Left need to get educated about this policy.................Obama

#22 | Posted by Maverick at 2018-10-09 09:10 PM | Reply

- Why would our government separate the child from its grandmother

How do you know it's the grandmother and not Granny Child Trafficker?

You don't. The courts are trying to determine it.

You alarmists act as though the child is being held for trial under charges.

#23 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-09 09:11 PM | Reply

Because fleeing violent drug gangs is the lesser of two perils.
#11 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

What a whopper. Tens of millions working and living their entire lives on the southern continent.

#24 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-09 09:13 PM | Reply

You think brown people should stick to countries that have mostly brown people, and america was meant for white people. Just say it. You'll feel better.
#15 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

You often project straw when you have no argument.

422 million people live, work, eat, go to movies, watch HBO, use cell phones, surf the internet, and drive cars in South America.

#25 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-09 09:15 PM | Reply

So you admit that they are economic migrants, not refugees.

#19 | Posted by nullifidian

I admit that they're not morons. And even refugees can know which country they'd rather start a new life in.

#26 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-10-09 09:16 PM | Reply

422 million people live, work, eat, go to movies, watch HBO, use cell phones, surf the internet, and drive cars in South America.

#25 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Sounds awesome. You should move there. They don't have any clintons for you to lose your mind about.

#27 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-10-09 09:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--And even refugees can know which country they'd rather start a new life in.

Hundreds of millions would rather live in the US. So what?

#28 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-09 09:19 PM | Reply

I support legal immigration and always will.
I will always support detention and deportation of illegal entrants.

Theres a law, there are process and procedures for legal entry.
Those laws and regs protect us and they protect immigrants and migrant workers from a long list of predatory harms.

The only people who support undocumented immigrants are those who support slave labor and exploitation of desperate third world workers.

#29 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-09 09:19 PM | Reply

#27 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Caricature because you can't argue my #25 or #29

and you know it.

#30 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-09 09:20 PM | Reply

the Left need to get educated about this policy.................Obama

#22 | Posted by Maverick

Yeah remember when obama made president ford enact a refugee resettlement policy in 1975?
www.state.gov

He's so evil and powerful he did it as a teenager!

He put all those brown stains in your underwear too!

#31 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-10-09 09:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I support legal immigration and always will.
I will always support detention and deportation of illegal entrants.

#29 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Refugees are not illegal immigrants, stupid.

But we'll add to the list of to breitbart talking points you parrot.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-10-09 09:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Isn't hear any screeching back then:

Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President - abcnews.go.com

How many people have been deported under Obama?

President Barack Obama has often been referred to by immigration groups as the "Deporter in Chief."
Between 2009 and 2015 his administration has removed more than 2.5 million people through immigration orders, which doesn't include the number of people who "self-deported" or were turned away and/or returned to their home country at the border by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP).

#33 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-09 09:23 PM | Reply

Refugees are not illegal immigrants, stupid.
#32 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

People intentionally attempting to claim a legal loophole to gain access to America is no excuse.

We accept legitimate refugees. We cannot accept posers who want a job and attempt to enter illegally.

#34 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-09 09:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"support undocumented immigrants"

Explain what you mean by "support undocumented immigrants."
Let's say an undocumented immigrant calls 9-1-1 to report a crime.
Should the police "support undocumented immigrants" by investigating the crime?

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-09 09:30 PM | Reply

"Tens of millions working and living their entire lives on the southern continent."

Being in a drug cartel is working and living your life too.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-09 09:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How do you know it's the grandmother and not Granny Child Trafficker?

So you support a policy of separating 2 year olds from their parents with no plan for reunification because the child's grandmother might actually be a child trafficker?

#37 | Posted by JOE at 2018-10-09 09:35 PM | Reply

"We accept legitimate refugees. We cannot accept posers who want a job and attempt to enter illegally."

What legitimate refugees are those???
As you recall, you said this about so-called refugees: "What a whopper. Tens of millions working and living their entire lives on the southern continent."

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-09 09:37 PM | Reply

So you support a policy of separating 2 year olds from their parents
#37 | POSTED BY JOE

Who has documentation to support that they are the parents or grandparents of this child?

Why do you defend human trafficking? - www.cnn.com

#39 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-09 09:39 PM | Reply

What legitimate refugees are those???
#38 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Do your own reading.

www.wrapsnet.org

#40 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-09 09:41 PM | Reply

Who has documentation to support that they are the parents or grandparents of this child?

I don't know. Why are you pretending that econonic migrants or refugees would be able to immediately provide such documentation? And why is an alleged "bernie supporter" defending a policy if separating two year olds from their families with no plan for reunification and shoving 2 year olds into immigration court?

You keep deflecting because this is indefensible. Just STFU, it would be less embarassing.

#41 | Posted by JOE at 2018-10-09 09:46 PM | Reply

- defending a policy if separating two year olds from their families with no plan for reunification and shoving 2 year olds into immigration court?
#41 | POSTED BY JOE

I suppose you'd advocate handing over the child to whoever raises their hand?

The child could have been snatched along the way from some village and is being used as a human legal shield.

but that obviously doesn't matter to you. The human traffickers agree with your argument.

#42 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-09 09:52 PM | Reply

I suppose you'd advocate handing over the child to whoever raises their hand?

You have to resort to strawmen because you're defending the indefensible.

Keep deflecting and throwing out --------. Nobody's falling for it.

#43 | Posted by JOE at 2018-10-09 09:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Isn't hear any screeching back then:

Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President - abcnews.go.com

#33 | Posted by SheepleSchism

yeah funny how separating tiny children from their parents makes people screech.

Or at least people with brains and hearts.

#44 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-10-09 09:56 PM | Reply

Personally, I would demand DNA swaps. As long as they match, the case moves along and children reunited with their actual parent.

But it would be reckless and inhumane NOT to determine with absolute certainty, that an adult claiming a child, is who they actually say they are.

#45 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-09 09:59 PM | Reply

We accept legitimate refugees. We cannot accept posers who want a job and attempt to enter illegally.

#34 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Funny, trump and breitbart have the exact same perspective and false facts that you do. What a coinkidink!

#46 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-10-09 09:59 PM | Reply

separating tiny children from their parents
#44 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

You have proof they aren't being trafficked? - www.cnn.com

#47 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-09 10:00 PM | Reply

false facts
#46 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

You don't even bother with facts, and just melt down on first contact.

#48 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-09 10:02 PM | Reply

And smuggled children are certainly at risk for human trafficking, the United Nations' children's agency UNICEF and World Without Exploitation said in a joint statement.
"Smugglers also take advantage of children and their families by extorting them with threats and false promises," they said.

This is what your unhinged free-for-all produces.

The only way to protect desperate third world people groups is to process them legally.

#49 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-09 10:05 PM | Reply

"And smuggled children are certainly at risk for human trafficking"

Thanks, Capitalism!

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-09 11:15 PM | Reply

Hey Sheep, do you really think Bernie (supposedly your preferred candidate) supports the current policy?

WWBD?

#51 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2018-10-10 12:53 AM | Reply

So this is what America has become.
***2 year-old child ripped away from grandmother, forced to go to court***
"Aww..."

#1 | POSTED BY DEREK_WILDSTAR AT 2018-10-09 06:46 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

There are now reports of children like this who were ripped from the parents at the border being put of for adoption by US families.

This is legalized kidnapping.

#52 | Posted by 726 at 2018-10-10 09:15 AM | Reply

You have proof they aren't being trafficked? - www.cnn.com

#47 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Yeah that's it. They're all being trafficked! None of them were just innocent kids being separated from their parents!

-Donald Trump, Infowars, Breitbart, and YOU

#53 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-10-10 11:09 AM | Reply

Run drugs or die.

Join a gang or die.

Become a prostitute or die.

If you're poor and live in Mexico, Central America, and metro-areas in ANY country south of the USA, those are your choices for a career, as long as it lasts.

#54 | Posted by john47 at 2018-10-10 11:36 AM | Reply

#4, because the USA has sought to destabilize any semblance of democracy in Central America so that Chiquita Banana, Folger's Coffee, Texaco Oil and all the others can maximize profits while depriving the locals of any benefit of their own natural resources. One consequence of US drug demand has been the growth of gangs in transport States of Central America. These gangs practice extortion on all independent businesses, no matter how small. Pay up or we will kill your family. Any other questions?

#55 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-10-10 02:11 PM | Reply

"So this is what America has become."

God forbid there be judicial review, physically observing the current welfare of children in this unfortunate situation. This is what you're complaining about?

And again, most people do blame those who chose to illegally smuggle these kids here for putting them in this situation. If you guys really aren't for open borders, you're doing a terrible job of convincing others of it.

#56 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-10-10 06:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"And again, most people do blame those who chose to illegally smuggle these kids here for putting them in this situation."

Only the strongest adherents to the Party of Personal Responsibility feel that way.

Everyone else understands that after we separate children from their families and detain them, everything that happens to the kids is our responsibility.

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-10 06:55 PM | Reply

And again, most people do blame those who chose to illegally smuggle these kids here for putting them in this situation.
#56 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

Inbred, see my #12.

#58 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-10-10 07:16 PM | Reply

"I suppose you'd advocate handing over the child to whoever raises their hand?"

So much straw.

Bernie would laugh at your stupid arguments.

#59 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-10-10 08:29 PM | Reply

"I suppose you'd advocate handing over the child to whoever raises their hand?"

As opposed to the current system, where they hand over the child to whoever raises their weapon.

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-10 08:33 PM | Reply

My suggestion is to refrain from engaging in criminal activity with a child in tow.
Especially if you have no proof that the child is yours.

A court may need to intervene for the safety of the child, and to combat human trafficking, which is prevalent along the US-Mexican border;

www.latimes.com
www.cnn.com
www.dw.com
www.telesurtv.net

I don't know why I bother posting links you refuse to read, but it's there for you, unless it spoils your narrative tantrum.

#61 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-10 09:18 PM | Reply

"My suggestion is to refrain from engaging in criminal activity with a child in tow."

Got any advice for refugees?

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-10 09:29 PM | Reply

My suggestion is to refrain from engaging in criminal activity with a child in tow.

Great suggestion. You sound like one of those ------- who says cops should be able to search people without probable cause because "if you arent breaking the law you should have nothing to worry about."

Meanwhile, people do illegally cross borders with kids in tow. That doesn't mean we have to demean ourselves by being as barbaric as possible in response.

#63 | Posted by JOE at 2018-10-10 09:46 PM | Reply

Got any advice for refugees?
#62 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Go to the nearest refugee center and apply for asylum.

#64 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-10 09:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You sound like one of those ------- who says cops should be able to search people without probable cause "
#63 | POSTED BY JOE

Running across the desert in a Coyote-led group near the border doesn't strike you as suspicious?
How about a hundred sweating dehydrated people packed into a tractor trailer,...average Monday afternoon?

If you cared about people, instead of political narratives, you would agree with me that
these desperate third world laborers seeking work and a new life, need the protections and benefits of legal entry.

They deserve the freedom to travel through our country, receive minimum wage and medical, have access to renting housing, banking, vehicles, etc
without constantly living under the fear of being exploited by employers, cops, racists, etc.

But of course, you have no intention of investigation beyond the Elevator Screamers at Vox and Salon.

#65 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-10 09:58 PM | Reply

Got any advice for refugees?
#62 | POSTED BY SNOOFY
Go to the nearest refugee center and apply for asylum.

#64 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

That's your advice? Now?

So Trump can send them to hell?

They are refugees. Not fools.

#66 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-10-10 10:17 PM | Reply

"Go to the nearest refugee center and apply for asylum."

That's what they've been doing.
What happens next is, they separate the children.
That's kind of the issue here.

#67 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-10 10:36 PM | Reply

That's what they've been doing.
What happens next is, they separate the children.
That's kind of the issue here.

#67 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Intellectual dishonesty, at its finest.

Even piggybacked in on Donners false narrative.

Good werk. keep the narrative alive.

#68 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-10-10 10:52 PM | Reply

"Intellectual dishonesty, at its finest."

No one can out do your dishonesty friend.

I wouldn't call it intellectual.

I call it BS.

Either you are either ignorant of reality or are intentionally dishonest.

And I don't think you are ignorant.

#69 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-10-10 11:25 PM | Reply

"Intellectual dishonesty, at its finest."

Oh?
Remind me, what's the policy for children at the border, exactly?

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-11 12:52 AM | Reply

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