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Monday, October 01, 2018

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) wants voters to know that they are dead-set and serious about their strongly-worded opposition to controversial Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. To that end, the constitutionally–though not always politically–liberal organization is running a series of ads in four states aimed at center-right senators seen to be wavering in their support for the would-be associate Supreme Court justice.

The all-but-sure-to-be-inflammatory advertisement compares Kavanaugh to Bill Cosby and Bill Clinton.

Cosby was recently sentenced to a three-10 year prison term for sexual assaulting Andrea Constand after being found guilty earlier this year. In sum, more than 50 women accused Cosby of drugging, assaulting, sexually harassing or raping them over the course of multiple decades. Clinton, still a fairly-reliable object of liberal affection, has been accused by no fewer than 12 women of rape and sexual assault over the years.

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#1 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-10-01 10:00 PM | Reply

Clinton, still a fairly-reliable object of liberal affection, has been accused by no fewer than 12 women of rape and sexual assault over the years.

Maybe Bubba can hang out in the same Zip Code as Julie Swetnick and make it a Baker's Dozen.

#2 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-10-01 10:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I like the choice of Cosby after his black name was brought up out of the blue by Republicans on the committee.

Same for Clinton, whose name was brought up out of the blue by the nominee himself.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-10-01 10:14 PM | Reply

#3

The ACLU thought it was appropriate as well.

#4 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-10-01 10:15 PM | Reply

I'm sure Bill Clinton is so glad to be included in that group.

I don't know if this is a good idea. Let's see if it pushes these senators to voting against.

But I doubt it.

#5 | Posted by eberly at 2018-10-01 10:15 PM | Reply

Of course, Kavanaugh was a teenager; whereas Bill Clinton was an attorney general at the time of his alleged rape of Broaddrick, and governor and president for some of his other victims.

#6 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-10-01 10:23 PM | Reply

Serious question: Why didn't Ken Starr (and Kav) bring rape charges against Clinton? We know that Kav thoroughly re-investigated Vince Foster's death, despite the fact that he personally believed Foster committed suicide. I can't believe they would have let 12 rape allegations go uninvestigated and unpunished.

#7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-10-01 11:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why didn't Ken Starr (and Kav) bring rape charges against Clinton? We know that Kav thoroughly re-investigated Vince Foster's death, despite the fact that he personally believed Foster committed suicide. I can't believe they would have let 12 rape allegations go uninvestigated and unpunished.

#7 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT 2018-10-01 11:36 PM

Rape in Arkansas is a Class Y felony and generally a Class Y felony has a six-year statute of limitation except for rape. The statute of limitation for rape in Arkansas is extended to 15 years if during that time DNA or other scientific evidence emerges that was not available at the time the crime was committed.

They didn't have any DNA or scientific evidence of Ms. Broaddrick's rape charge, so the SOL ran on that charge in 1984. As for Paula Jones, indecent exposure is 1 year in Arkansas and is merely a misdemeanor and sexual assault is 3 years, so the SOL ran in 1992 and 1994.

#8 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-10-02 11:26 AM | Reply

#8 What about the other 10 rapes? Any background info on those?

#9 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-10-02 11:34 AM | Reply

#9

Those are the two main allegations that were focused on, there are only 4 that I know of: Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey, Jones and recently, Leslie Millwee. I don't know where they get the others.

#10 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-10-02 11:46 AM | Reply

#1 pot kettle.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2018-10-02 11:57 AM | Reply

#9 Okay, here's an article that claims both Jones' and Willey's claims were problematic and explains why Starr didn't pursue Wiley's further:

Starr's office eventually concluded, "the evidence was insufficient to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that the President's deposition testimony about his conduct with Willey was false," and that, "Even assuming Willey's testimony was truthful about the incident with President Clinton, her testimony at trial would be subject to further challenge based on the differences between her deposition and grand jury statements, as well as her acknowledgement of false statements to the Office of the Independent Counsel."

www.vox.com

#12 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-10-02 12:02 PM | Reply

"Why didn't Ken Starr (and Kav) bring rape charges against Clinton?"

I decided to try to ansswer my own qestion and did a little research into Broaddrick's claim as well. Starr did investigate it, but there were some problems with her story (e.g. she signed a sworn affidavit in the Jones case swearing Clinton didn't rape her before later claiming that he did). At any rate, Starr ended up saying her claim was "inconclusive". Personally, I don't think Broaddrick did herself any favors by appearing on stage at the debate for Trump and then when asked about Trump's accusers saying, They're all lying. If she is the sexual assault victim she claims to be, I'm surprised she didn't say their claims should at least be investigated.

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-10-02 12:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As far as Lewenski goes, I just think it was a very bad idea for the president to behave like that at work. Unacceptable.

But Clinton doesn't get a free ride from me on his other accusations. He paid Paula Jones $850,000 in '90s dollars to shut up and go away.

President Clinton has also been known to entertain with Epstein, a known pedo....

#14 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-10-02 12:51 PM | Reply

#14 From what I can tell the Willey one has pretty much been debunked. Jones and Broaddrick have stronger claims, but not without lies and contradictions in their testimony andr the testimony of witnesses they brought forth on their behalf, which is why Starr didn't pursue them further. The relationship with Lewinski was consensual but that doesn't mean Clinton should have engaged in it. I've always said the rightwing was out to get him, and unfortunately for him, and more importantly the country, he gave them the ammunition to do it. And, yes, both Clinton and Trump were known to associate with Epstein. We may hear more about all that before all is said and done.

#15 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-10-02 01:05 PM | Reply

"We may hear more about all that before all is said and done."

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that either man engaged in extra-material sex on those excursions with Epstein. In fact, I'd be surprised to learn they didn't. Based on what we know of Trump's public behavior toward and comments about underage girls, I also wouldn't be surprised to learn he had sex with minors on those trips. I'd be more surprised to learn that Clinton did but can't say for sure that it is out of the realm of possibility. Which are pretty sad things to say about a current and former president.

#16 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-10-02 01:14 PM | Reply

Does the GOP really want to conflate Kavanaugh with Bill Clinton? Wow.

#17 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-10-02 01:50 PM | Reply

Does the GOP really want to conflate Kavanaugh with Bill Clinton? Wow.

#17 | POSTED BY MODER8 AT 2018-10-02 01:50 PM

No, but the ACLU is conflating Kavanaugh with Bill Clinton. Wow.

#18 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-10-02 01:55 PM | Reply

Does the GOP really want to conflate Kavanaugh with Bill Clinton? Wow.

#17 | POSTED BY MODER8

The GOP? Based on the thread headline it looks like it's the ACLU that's doing this.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-10-02 01:55 PM | Reply

#11

Unclear on the concept in post #1...

#20 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-10-02 01:56 PM | Reply

Two things are notable to me is that if the ACLU didn't include Clinton in its comparison:

1. In all honesty I probably wouldn't have clicked on it or posted it, even though they were comparing Kavanaugh to Cosby; and

2. The DR Left would have flooded it with posts scrutinizing the similarities between Cosby and Kavanaugh.

Include Bubba in the mix, I do post it and all we get (except for Gal and Lfthnd, kudos to them) is confused anger and silence.

#21 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-10-03 01:12 PM | Reply

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