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New Kavanaugh accuser Julie Swetnick details parties where she says girls were drugged and raped

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#1 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-09-26 11:39 AM | Reply

I hope this one decides to file a criminal complaint. I'm not sure what they are waiting on.

#2 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-09-26 11:50 AM | Reply

It'll be interesting to see where the goal posts are moved to on this one.

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2018-09-26 11:50 AM | Reply

Just be thankful he is not a democrat. If he was, this could be serious.

#4 | Posted by kudzu at 2018-09-26 11:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What a horrible experience to have to suffer through. I have no reason to doubt she was raped at a party.
But it seems to me that one statement is missing: "Brett Kavanaugh raped me".

It will be interesting to hear if Kavanaugh says he knew her or attended a party with her.
Also, are there any corroborating witness statements?

#5 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-09-26 11:53 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"It'll be interesting to see where the goal posts are moved to on this one."

I think McConnell will annunce "boys will be boys" defense. It ought to be "spoiled frat boys will be spoiled frat boys."

#6 | Posted by danni at 2018-09-26 11:53 AM | Reply

In her affidavit she claims it's subject to perjury. Is it?

#7 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 11:54 AM | Reply

#5 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Way to talk out of both sides of your mouth while flailing about for a justification to ignore this one too.

#whataboutellison

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2018-09-26 11:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The chain rape thing is an incredibly serious allegation.

Most of the rest of what she describes is the party culture of the '80s.

#9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 12:00 PM | Reply

#8 | POSTED BY JPW

His questions were legitimate.

#10 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 12:01 PM | Reply

His questions were legitimate.

Only the one about corroborating witnesses.

Otherwise do you think Kavanaugh is going to admit to knowing her and then tear his mask off and say "and I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you stinking Dems"?

In any case I'm convinced that there isn't any evidence that would make you guys admit he shouldn't be confirmed. Everything is easily rationalized as nothing to you guys. And that goes for much much more than the Kavanaugh issue.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2018-09-26 12:04 PM | Reply

What a horrible experience to have to suffer through. I have no reason to doubt she was raped at a party.
But it seems to me that one statement is missing: "Brett Kavanaugh raped me".

Tell me, Jeffj.

Let's say she says Kavanaugh never penetrated her but was in the room while she was raped.

What then? Confirm! Amiright?

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2018-09-26 12:05 PM | Reply

JPW,

Did I claim the gang-rape allegation was nothing?

No, I did not.

#13 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 12:08 PM | Reply

Way to talk out of both sides of your mouth while flailing about for a justification to ignore this one too.
#whataboutellison

#8 | POSTED BY JPW

I believe her. I didn't read where she stated, "Brett Kavanaugh raped me".
Did you read that? Did she say, " I witnessed B.K. rape a drugged girl"? I didn't.

As previously stated in a post to Gal Tuesday and another to Snoofy, I believe Ford.
However, the details are sketchy, and no corroborating witnesses.

I believe Ramirez. However, she stated there was a plastic penis, then when drunk and near passed out, saw a penis.
Again, no eyewitnesses.

I believe Ellison's accuser, but she needs to find that video to prove it.

I also agree with JeffJ, the Swetnick statement is a serious allegation and may warrant an investigation. However, I have so far not read her saying, "Brett Kavanaugh raped me" or "I witnessed a rape".

The difference between me and you was the point of my Ellison remarks, to prove by your own exposed bias that you are a partisan hack.

#MissionAccomplished.

#14 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-09-26 12:12 PM | Reply

"Most of the rest of what she describes is the party culture of the '80s."

They are? Really? Party culture of the '80s is rape culture, then.

"abusive and physically agressive behavior toward girls."
Party culture of the '80s.

"to spike the drinks of girls at house parties I attended with grain alcohol and/or drugs so as to cause girls to lose inhibitions and their ability to say 'No.' "
Party culture of the '80s.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-26 12:15 PM | Reply

Her accusations apply to a bunch of men. She's describing train rape at multiple parties. A criminal investigation into her allegations must be initiated immediately.

#16 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 12:15 PM | Reply

" She said "I became the victim" of one such rape "where Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh were present."

Does she need to say more?

#17 | Posted by danni at 2018-09-26 12:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Does she need to say more?

#17 | POSTED BY DANNI

She needs to file criminal charges and she needs to start naming names. She described multiple train rapes at multiple parties. This is much bigger than the Kavanaugh nomination.

What needs to be avoided is mob justice. Tawana Brawley, Duke Lacrosse team, UVA frat gang-rape story, and countless others...All parties should use caution before jumping to conclusions.

#18 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 12:30 PM | Reply

What needs to be avoided is mob justice.

#18 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018

Much more likely to happen Friday is everything being swept under a rug.

#19 | Posted by Zed at 2018-09-26 12:32 PM | Reply

"She needs to file criminal charges" #18 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Jeffj how many times does this have to be spelled out for your empty head? She can file criminal complaints at any time. Its more important in the near term to stop a rapist and russian apologist into the SC. If you gave a half a ---- about the United States, this would make sense to you. Why stray from the critical path and risk putting all US citizens in danger?

#20 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-09-26 12:33 PM | Reply

Its more important in the near term to stop a rapist and russian apologist into the SC. - #20 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-09-26 12:33 PM
And, as has been explained so many times, the fastest, and most sure, way of doing that is to file a criminal complaint about the activities.

#21 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-09-26 12:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It will be interesting to hear if Kavanaugh says he knew her or attended a party with her.
#5 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

What good is the testimony of a man willing to perjure himself everytime he's under oath?

#22 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-09-26 12:43 PM | Reply

Dr Jones,

We are talking about multiple gang rapes. This absolutely needs a criminal investigation and it would be a travesty if one doesn't happen. If Ms. Swetnick is offering sworn testimony (and not tabloid trash) then these allegations need to be treated with the utmost seriousness. Stalling Kavanaugh's nomination should be ancillary. Tomorrow's hearing should proceed and these newest allegations need to be assessed before even considering holding a committee vote on his nomination.

#23 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 12:46 PM | Reply

#21 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

Is Jeffj tutoring you? That's a moronic claim. The fastest way to get rid of the rapist is to reveal the unconstitutional and hypocritical tactics the GOP is using to bury these accusations and force him into the court.

#24 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-09-26 12:48 PM | Reply

#24 Is that all you care about? Stopping Kavanaugh's nomination? We are talking about allegations of multiple gang rapes for Christ's sake!

#25 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 12:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Tomorrow's hearing should proceed and these newest allegations need to be assessed before even considering holding a committee vote on his nomination.
#23 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Finally some sensibility from you. But you know they will not do that. That's why its imperative the democrats continue to reveal this atrocious disgrace that is the SJC.

#26 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-09-26 12:50 PM | Reply

That's a moronic claim. The fastest way to get rid of the rapist is to reveal the unconstitutional and hypocritical tactics the GOP is using to bury these accusations and force him into the court. - #24 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-09-26 12:48 PM
Oh yes...you're the idiot who thinks that the SJC is less likely to pass on someone with uncorroborated claims against them than someone under investigation of a crime.

#27 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-09-26 12:51 PM | Reply

#25 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

No you inbred, I've said this whole time that is the FIRST thing of importance. I never made any claim that the criminal aspects aren't important. You're worried about potential flooding while your house is on fire.

#28 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-09-26 12:52 PM | Reply

Like #Metoo with Weinstein, the dam has been breached. One of two things will happen - either the witnesses will start coming forward or this is a hoax. What she is describing isn't limited to a single occurrence with a handful of alleged witnesses. We are talking about numerous gang rapes in the same neighborhood spanning years. THIS kind of allegation is something that can be corroborated, or mostly disproven.

#29 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 12:53 PM | Reply

either the witnesses will start coming forward or this is a hoax.

It's all a hoax. The last one was a hoax. The next one will be a hoax. Hoax hoax hoax.

Don't pay it any attention. It's just a democrat. She was asking for it. Or is lying.

Eitherway. Women aren't to be believed. They're all manipulative. And opportunistic.

Why didn't she report the rape! Because she liked it. Or it never happened.

This is all a hoax.

Don't believe her. She's a woman. She can't possibly be telling the truth.

That ----.

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-09-26 01:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

30

Enough about the things the Clinton team said during the bimbo eruption.

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2018-09-26 01:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"One of two things will happen - either the witnesses will start coming forward or this is a hoax."

What is the minimum number of additional witnesses for it to potentoally not be a hoax?

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-26 01:07 PM | Reply

She needs to say, "Brett Kavanaugh raped me" or "I witnessed B.K. rape an unconscious girl".

I would launch an investigation. The story is too big not to.

If Kavanaugh is guilty of such a crime, I want him sitting next to Cosby.

#33 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-09-26 01:08 PM | Reply

What is the minimum number of additional witnesses for it to potentoally not be a hoax?
#32 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

One would be helpful.

#34 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-09-26 01:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Oh man.
She's extremely credible.
I just watched her in an interview.
Not to mention what she said she directly witnessed.
And now Jeff Flake is going to the Senate floor to speak.

#35 | Posted by YAV at 2018-09-26 01:17 PM | Reply

One would be helpful.

#34 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2018-09-26 01:09 PM

Once again, no details as to where the parties were, who was there and just as important, who actually gang raped Ms. Swetnik. Surely, if she can identify Kavanaugh and Judge having attended these parties but knows for a certain that they didn't gang rape her, she can identify the guys that did and should do so for the authorities.

#36 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-09-26 01:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

--And now Jeff Flake is going to the Senate floor to grandstand.

FTFY

#37 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-26 01:20 PM | Reply

"Surely, if she can identify Kavanaugh and Judge having attended these parties but knows for a certain that they didn't gang rape her"

You really think "for certain" is possible given the passage of time, and use of alcohol?

There may be some daylight emerging between you and JeffJ. He doesn't think that kind of certainty is poesible.

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-26 01:22 PM | Reply

#35 Yav,

Where did you watch the interview?

I'm hoping it already made its way onto Youtube.

#39 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 01:22 PM | Reply

--Once again, no details as to where the parties were, who was there and just as important, who actually gang raped Ms. Swetnik.

It's almost like a pattern or something.

#40 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-26 01:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#38

Snoofy,

Do everyone a favor. Grow up.

#41 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 01:23 PM | Reply

Righto,

While she doesn't offer specifics, the events she's describing (which took place over a number of years) should have a bunch of witnesses. If her allegations are unable to produce any corroborating evidence.....

#42 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 01:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I'm really bothered that I haven't heard "Brett raped me" so far.

#43 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-09-26 01:25 PM | Reply

- should have a bunch of witnesses.

And multiple victims.

#44 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-09-26 01:26 PM | Reply

JeffJ, if you feel I have unfairly characterized your remarks, be a man and call it out.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-26 01:27 PM | Reply

I'm not playing your stupid games.

#46 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 01:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

if you feel I have unfairly characterized your remarks, be a man and call it out.

That's all you ever do, why don't you stop with the constant strawmen and succinctly set forth arguments that deserve a retort, rather than your stultifying and childish game of assigning positions to others so you can knock them down.

Until you grow up and can discuss things like an adult, I personally am done with you.

Is that enough of a call out for you?

#47 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-09-26 01:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Kav would not have had to rape anyone, IMO. If he was there and knew what was going on, that would disqualify him. Assuming her claim is true, which I don't at this point. Seems possible but we need an investigation.

#48 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-09-26 01:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Kav would not have had to rape anyone, IMO. If he was there and knew what was going on, that would disqualify him. Assuming her claim is true, which I don't at this point. Seems possible but we need an investigation.

#48 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

I completely agree.

#49 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 01:42 PM | Reply

PS If she is lying, God help us all.

#50 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-09-26 01:45 PM | Reply

#50

Amen, Gal.

#51 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 01:45 PM | Reply

Gal,

I don't think she's lying about the party scene. In fact, I'm sure she's pretty much dead-on accurate. It's the gang rape accusations that demand immediate attention.

#52 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 01:46 PM | Reply

Let's review JeffJ's statements on these types of allegations, below:

The reasons I say it's not a credible accusation:

1. The fog of memory due to the passage of time.
2. All possible key verifiable facts cannot be recalled.
3. That her only corroborating evidence, her therapist's notes that have been released, contradict one of her claims.
4. That her story has changed regarding the people in attendance of the gathering.
5. That the witnesses she name ALL deny knowledge of the party with her longtime friend Leland being the most damning - saying she's never even met Kavanaugh.

POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-09-25 02:57 www.drudge.com

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-26 01:47 PM | Reply

"Kav would not have had to rape anyone, IMO. If he was there and knew what was going on, that would disqualify him. Assuming her claim is true, which I don't at this point. Seems possible but we need an investigation.
#48 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

I completely agree.
#49 | POSTED BY JEFFJ"

Earlier, JeffJ wrote "Most of the rest of what she describes is the party culture of the '80s."

I didn't realize JeffJ thought attending parties in the '80s was sufficient grounds to not confirm a Supreme Court justice.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-26 01:51 PM | Reply

I didn't realize JeffJ thought attending parties in the '80s was sufficient grounds to not confirm a Supreme Court justice.

What are you, 8 years old?

Stop it.

#55 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-09-26 01:55 PM | Reply

Earlier I said that I thought it was probable that Ford was telling the truth but possible she wasn't. I never weighed in on Ramirez. Over the past two days (before this accuser came forward), I have moved much more strongly in the direction of believing both of them. Much of my thinking on this, which I arrived at before reading this article is reflected in it:

Brett Kavanaugh and the Cruelty of Male Bonding

slate.com

So, while I am comfortable with saying, I think Ford and Ramirez are most likely telling the truth, because of the serious nature of this latest accusation, I have to start back at square one and say, I don't know. We definitely need an FBI investigation now.

#56 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-09-26 02:00 PM | Reply

We definitely need an FBI investigation now.

Couldn't agree more, and this raises the stakes for McConnell's plan to hold a vote on Friday. Regardless of whether the vote proceeds, an investigation either by the FBI or the MD and CN authorities on these allegations must happen.

#57 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-09-26 02:05 PM | Reply

There is one point I've been wanting to make the past few days as it relates to accusers being intoxicated, and since this accuser claims the drinks were sometimes spiked with drugs, this is a good time to say it. If a drink was spiked with a drug, that really makes a difference, IMO, in both how quickly someone gets intoxicated and how well they remember what happened afterwards.

#58 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-09-26 02:06 PM | Reply

Tell ya what, RightOCenter. I'll spell it out for you like you're eight.

First, we have JeffJ agreeing that Kavanaugh's knowledge of what was going on is enough to reject him:

"Kav would not have had to rape anyone, IMO. If he was there and knew what was going on, that would disqualify him...
#48 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY
I completely agree.
#49 | POSTED BY JEFFJ"

Earlier, JeffJ said "Most of the rest of what she describes is the party culture of the '80s."

It's safe to conclude "what was going on" -- plying girls with alcohol to lower their inhibitions or get them to pass out, so the boys can take advantage of them, is the same thing JeffJ earlier called "party culture of the 80s."

And thus it's reasonable to conclude that Kavanaugh's participation in what JeffJ has called "party culture of the '80s" is sufficient basis to deny him a seat on the bench.

Maybe it's sufficient to remove him from his current Federal position too, who knows?

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-26 02:08 PM | Reply

Why does she laugh and smile while talking about being raped and witnessing others get raped?

What dumb MF attends multiple rape parties?

Why didn't she stop the gang rapes she claims to know about? why didn't she warn all those poor girls that kept attending these parties? Shouldn't she be held liable for the rapes that happened due to her inaction?

There's zero doubt in my mind Kavanaugh, Swetnick, and Judge were all in cahoots and the leaders of a rape syndicate...

#rapeenabler

#60 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-09-26 02:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#60 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE

There are definitely some oddities to her story that warrant a bunch of additional questions.

#61 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 02:14 PM | Reply

"What dumb MF attends multiple rape parties?"

That was the party culture of the '80s, bro!

Don't tell me you didn't get yours?

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-26 02:15 PM | Reply

#57 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

McConnell needs to get a handle on this situation before he holds a vote.

#63 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 02:15 PM | Reply

It's still amazing to me that anybody here thinks sheeple is a bigger troll than Snoofy.

#64 | Posted by eberly at 2018-09-26 02:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's still amazing to me that anybody here thinks sheeple is a bigger troll than Snoofy.
#64 | POSTED BY EBERLY

It's all based on perspective.

After all. You're one of the biggest trolls on the DR.

#65 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-09-26 02:23 PM | Reply

#64

"Lighten up, Francis"
POSTED BY JEFFJ

#66 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-26 02:27 PM | Reply

65

You poor thing.

#67 | Posted by eberly at 2018-09-26 02:27 PM | Reply

You poor thing.
#67 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I'm losing sleep at night.

#68 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-09-26 02:29 PM | Reply

Why did Swetnick keep attending these parties when she knew for at least a year that the girls were being raped and drugged?
Her own claims, if to be believed, prove that she knew what was going on yet she warned nobody and attended these parties herself.

What kind of a sick ---- attends known rape parties for years, besides Kavanaugh and Judge, obviously.

Are we really not going to whip up the social media justice mob and send them after Swetnick for standing by silently party after party and not stopping these rapes?
How could she know about this and let it continue to happen?

The first thing she needs to confirm is how many rape parties did she attend and why did she keep attending the,?

#69 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-09-26 02:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Nothing says "I was gang raped and witnessed tons of gang rapes" quite like her Glamour Shot photo with the million dollar smile going on!

This lady is less credible than blackout drunk Ramirez.

Also, sounds like everyone in that town had alchohol problems...

#70 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-09-26 02:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

68

You shouldn't be.

You cried like a ----- about how rough I've been on dirk and snoofy.

I stopped.

You can feel better now.

#71 | Posted by eberly at 2018-09-26 02:33 PM | Reply

Also, sounds like everyone in that town had alchohol problems...
#70 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE

You just answered your own questions in #69.

#72 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-09-26 02:34 PM | Reply

"Why did Swetnick keep attending these parties when she knew for at least a year that the girls were being raped and drugged?"

Why did Kavanaugh?
Just... give us your best guess.

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-26 02:37 PM | Reply

#73 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Her questionable character is not the issue. It's whether or not her credibility as a witness is adequate so that her accusation of witnessing both gang rapes and Kavanaugh at parties with gang rapes, and potentially his involvement in said rapes, should be believed.

IOW, 101's question is ultimately irrelevant.

#74 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-09-26 02:41 PM | Reply

You can feel better now.
#71 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I doubt it.

#75 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-09-26 02:41 PM | Reply

In all seriousness, how screwed up is this small Maryland town if either A) all accusations are true, or B) all allegations are false

How many people not named Kavanaugh or Judge are crapping their pants right now wondering when their rape, or their act of raping will be exposed (again, if true)?

Also, surely one of these rapists from the numerous trains would have been arrested prior to now for tape or sexual assault, right? It's not like you just stop raping because Kav and Judge stopped throwing gang rape parties...

There are so many more important questions to be answered.

#76 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-09-26 02:43 PM | Reply

Why did Swetnick keep attending these parties

She was hoping to be raped.

Why did Kavanaugh?

He was hoping to be raped.

#77 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-09-26 02:43 PM | Reply

And thus it's reasonable to conclude that Kavanaugh's participation in what JeffJ has called "party culture of the '80s" is sufficient basis to deny him a seat on the bench.
Maybe it's sufficient to remove him from his current Federal position too, who knows?

#59 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2018-09-26 02:08 PM

See what you can do when you apply yourself?

Both of those are good points, and your first point will be put to the test on Friday at the earliest. As for your second point, once the Dems gain control of the Senate (maybe in '18, most likely in '20), if an investigation shows that Kavanaugh lied, then he should be booted from whatever position he then holds.

#78 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-09-26 02:55 PM | Reply

Notice the M.O. described: Get them so drunk they can't say "no." Because in an era where boys are taught "no means no" if they they never say "no" then it's not rape!

You can see how someone who would creatively exploit a loophole like that would do well for themselves in the field of law.

And for all of you older angry white men who think "affirmative consent" is ridiculous, now you know why it was created: Because of things angry white men did when they were younger.

Thanks for reading and understandung.

#79 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-26 02:57 PM | Reply

"#59 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2018-09-26 02:08 PM
See what you can do when you apply yourself?"

Obviously, but I shouldn't have to apply myself to leading you down the garden path like that.

You're supposed to he a lawyer, bot a dummy.

#80 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-26 02:59 PM | Reply

I hope somebody files a civil suit against Swetnick for being an accomplice to gang rape.

#81 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-09-26 03:00 PM | Reply

once the Dems gain control of the Senate (maybe in '18, most likely in '20), if an investigation shows that Kavanaugh lied, then he should be booted from whatever position he then holds.

#78 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2018-09-26 02:55 PM | FLAG:

Conveniently, your "solution" involves him having plenty of time to cause trouble before he can be removed by a mechanism so difficult it has never been successfully employed.

#82 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-26 03:06 PM | Reply

Her statement didn't say that she witnessed a rape by Kavanaugh.

In fact, according to her statement, she doesn't claim to have witnessed any rape, except her own, which did not name Kavanaugh as the perp.

She says rapes were happening in the bedroom, but how would she know this?

They may have stood in line to see a football signed by Joe Namath.

#83 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-09-26 03:09 PM | Reply

According to the WSJ, she attended 10 parties between 81-83, so even after she claims to have been gang raped she was still attending these rape parties...

This swetnick broad needs help.

#84 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-09-26 03:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#81 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE

Whoever sues a gang rape victim for not reporting gang rape, without considering Kavanaugh's inaction as well, needs a lesson in prioritization.

#85 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-09-26 03:19 PM | Reply

This swetnick broad needs help.
#84 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE

Maybe that's part of her bringing this all to light. Acknowledgement of the trauma is the first step to acknowledging the problem and determining help is needed.

#86 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-09-26 03:20 PM | Reply

It was probably the line to the bathroom and she was too bombed to know any better.

Btw, who goes out to parties with known rapists after having been gang raped by them?
Can one of you white knights answer that for me?

#87 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-09-26 03:20 PM | Reply

They may have stood in line to see a football signed by Joe Namath.
#83 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Probably why she should be included in the hearing tomorrow. Too bad Congressional Republicans don't agree.

#88 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-09-26 03:21 PM | Reply

Can one of you white knights answer that for me?
#87 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE

Why are you so desperate to get that question answered?

#89 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-09-26 03:22 PM | Reply

Her statement is guilt by association, or merely by being present at a party.
She has not claimed that she was raped by BK or witnessed BK rape anyone.

She does not claim to have witnessed any rape at all. But,
She say she was raped at a party. I believe her on that count.

#90 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-09-26 03:26 PM | Reply

Btw, who goes out to parties with known rapists after having been gang raped by them?
Can one of you white knights answer that for me?

#87 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE AT 2018-09-26 03:20 PM | FLAG:

Lots of people. Any other stupid questions?

#91 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-26 03:27 PM | Reply

#83 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Here's what she did witness, apparently:

8. I observed Brett Kavanaugh drink excessively at many of these parties and engage in abusive and physically aggressive behavior toward girls, including pressing girls against him without their consent, "grinding" against girls, and attempting to remove or shift girls' clothing to expose private body parts. I likewise observed him be verbally abusive towards girls by making crude sexual comments to them that were designed to demean, humiliate and embarrass them. I often witnessed Brett Kavanaugh speak in a demeaning manner about girls in general as well as specific girls by name. I also witnessed Brett Kavanaugh behave as a "mean drunk" on many occassions at these parties.

#92 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-09-26 03:29 PM | Reply

I believe her on that count.
#90 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

How about her account laid out in #92?

#93 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-09-26 03:30 PM | Reply

So, the boys around here drug women and then pull trains on them at parties. I know this to be true. I also know I'm going to attend these parties and instead of bringing my own booze, I'm going to let the rapist drink-spikers to provide me with alcohol because "fill in the blank".
-Swetnick

Sure, this lady sounds stable.

3 women with 3 horrifyingly weak stories. One worse than the next.
Even if one credible accuser comes forward I'd never believe these three.

#94 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-09-26 03:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#94

By that logic, given sexual assault rates at US schools, women would not attend such parties period.

#95 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-26 03:36 PM | Reply

"If that neighborhood were REALLY dangerous, people wouldn't live there!"

-Chairmoron

"If that forest were REALLY on fire, people would leave and no one would have died!"

-Chairidiot

#96 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-26 03:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

So, the boys around here drug women and then pull trains on them at parties. I know this to be true. I also know I'm going to attend these parties and instead of bringing my own booze, I'm going to let the rapist drink-spikers to provide me with alcohol because "fill in the blank".
-Swetnick

Oh I get it.

By attending those parties, she consented to being drugged and raped.

It was okay for boys to drug her and rape her.

Bevause she was asking for it.

#97 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-26 03:41 PM | Reply

By attending those parties, she consented to being drugged and raped.
It was okay for boys to drug her and rape her.
Bevause she was asking for it.
#97 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2018-09-26 03:41 PM | FLAG:

Same old story from the Party of Rape.

#98 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-26 03:44 PM | Reply

#94 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE

Hindsite is 20-20 for most who grow up and mature.

You saying this woman didn't do that? Seems pretty credible to me considering her position within the federal government and the risk of losing numerous security clearances, which will no-doubt happen now regardless of this outcome.

#99 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-09-26 03:44 PM | Reply

"Btw, who goes out to parties with known rapists after having been gang raped by them?"

Why do you keep calling it "rape" when you're clearly attemping to convey consent?

#100 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-26 03:46 PM | Reply

Beach,

Pretty sure I read that she's a former government employee.

#101 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-26 03:59 PM | Reply

Team Ford said she was afraid of flying in order to delay her testimony. So how is she getting to Washington tonight?

#102 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-26 04:07 PM | Reply

Team Ford said she was afraid of flying in order to delay her testimony. So how is she getting to Washington tonight?

#102 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-09-26 04:07 PM | FLAG:

....and?

#103 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-26 04:09 PM | Reply

JEFF -

True! And yet:

The third woman to accuse Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct as a teen is a Washington, DC, resident who has had a career working for the federal government.

In a sworn declaration released Wednesday, accuser Julie Swetnick, 55, notes that she holds "active clearances" for her work with the US Department of Treasury, US Mint and Internal Revenue Service.

She said she also previously had security clearances with the US Department of State, Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security and Customs and Border Protection.

#104 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-09-26 04:09 PM | Reply

"Team Ford said she was afraid of flying in order to delay her testimony. So how is she getting to Washington tonight?
#102 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN"

She said she was afraid of the confined space of the aircraft, not of flying itself.

She's flying in on Hillary Clinton's broom.

Next question.

#105 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-26 04:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

3 women with 3 horrifyingly weak stories. One worse than the next.
Even if one credible accuser comes forward I'd never believe these three.

#94 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE

And you'd do all the mental gymnastics you can muster to dismiss the 4th allegation too. Like any GOP hack would.

#106 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-09-26 04:47 PM | Reply

And yet these women continued going to the parties. Not just Ford or the other accusers, many many many other women continued to attend these parties even though it was clear sexual misconduct would be taking place. Should show that the culture of that area and time was enough to pressure girls to feel an obligation to attend these parties. Otherwise, why would any woman be interested in these parties?

Far more nuance to answer this question than MANY Kavanaugh apologists here on the DR would like to consider.

And yet it's only the Kavanaugh accusers' character that 101 and others question.

#107 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-09-26 05:08 PM | Reply

So, no answers to my questions? I didn't expect anyone to answer them, because how do you answer those and make Swetnick not look like a liar?

#108 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-09-26 05:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#108 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE

The point is your question is disingenuous if it's only aimed at the accusers.

#109 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-09-26 05:15 PM | Reply

#108 Those are the kinds of questions the FBI could ask her during an investigation.

#110 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-09-26 05:17 PM | Reply

"So, no answers to my questions?"

That's how it looks when you plonk everyone who bothers to try and engage you.

#111 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-26 05:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#111 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

HAHAHA!

#112 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-09-26 05:20 PM | Reply

Absolutely, Gal.

Let me ask you...does it seem normal that a woman would know about these rape lines, rape parties, spiked drinks, etc and continue attending them after being a victim at one of these parties?
It simply doesn't pass the smell test.

#113 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-09-26 05:23 PM | Reply

"does it seem normal that a woman would know about these rape lines, rape parties, spiked drinks, etc and continue attending them after being a victim at one of these parties?"

Does it seem normal that parents sent their kids to Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch, even after repeated allegations of molestation and sexual misconduct? No.

Did it happen? All the time.

#114 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-26 05:26 PM | Reply

#113 Did she say she attended after she had been raped?

#115 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-09-26 05:27 PM | Reply

#115 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

No, but she did attend after knowing such things happen, which inevitably led to her rape.

#116 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-09-26 05:30 PM | Reply

Yes. She started goin to rape parties in 81. She was raped in 82. She continued to go to them through 83.
I read that in the WSJ article about this.
It just doesn't add up to me, nor anyone I've talked to about this.

#117 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-09-26 05:32 PM | Reply

A lady at work says a guy (she named him) grabbed her ---- at a party and she remembers everyone that was there, where it was, etc because she was so mortified. She wouldn't let her son attend the high school that the kid at the time attended....
That seems like a normal reaction to me. I'd assume (unless she was actually drugged) any victim would recall that kind of stuff. Also, if they were drugged and stuff was fuzzy, why would they go back to those parties and watch men stand in line they know to be a rape line?

The other thing that kills me is the "spiked punch". Wtf are they talking about? The punch is there for others to bring a bottle of booze in and add it to the punch. What ------ thinks that punch is provided for non alchohol drinkers?

#118 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-09-26 05:40 PM | Reply

That seems like a normal reaction to me.

So all victims who do not react similarly are lying?

Who made you gatekeeper of this stuff?

#119 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-09-26 05:43 PM | Reply

"Eleven days ago, Dr. Ford publicly accused me of committing a serious wrong more than 36 years ago when we were both in high school," he will state, adding, "Over the past few days, other false and uncorroborated accusations have been aired."

For someone applying for the top legal job in the country, this statement is ambiguous at best and incorrect at worst. Legally speaking, the allegation by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford of an assault in the early 1980s is corroborated, as are later claims by Deborah Ramirez, who alleges a second assault in which Kavanaugh thrust his penis in her face during a dorm-room party when they were both attending Yale University. ...

"To call these allegations uncorroborated, is wrong, since contemporaneous statements of a victim are one of the best guarantees of truthfulness," Joyce Vance, a former US attorney in Alabama, told Mother Jones in an email. Ford, she noted, told people, including her therapist, about the assault years before Kavanaugh was nominated to the Supreme Court.

www.motherjones.com

#120 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-09-26 05:53 PM | Reply

Enough about the things the Clinton team said during the bimbo eruption.

#31 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You're on the "but but but Clinton" train too?

#121 | Posted by jpw at 2018-09-26 06:06 PM | Reply

"She started goin to rape parties in 81. She was raped in 82. She continued to go to them through 83."

Just to be clear, do you support confirming a Supreme Court justice who attended those rape parties?

Thanks in advance for clearing that up!

#122 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-26 06:39 PM | Reply

Good God! Was Caligula the mayor of this town in the ‘80's?

#123 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-27 09:01 AM | Reply

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