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Tuesday, September 25, 2018

Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh's roommate from Yale says he believes the second woman accusing Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct. James Roche says he was Kavanaugh's roommate in the Fall of 1983.

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Wow! Kavanaugh, just take your name out of consideration and hope against hope that you can keep your current job which you obviously do not have the character to hold. BTW, he did lie to Congress when he was up for the current job....five times.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2018-09-24 10:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

More Yale news

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#2 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-09-24 10:31 PM | Reply

"I did not observe the specific incident in question" - James Roche

"Wow! Kavanaugh, just take your name out of consideration and hope against hope that you can keep your current job" - DANNI

What article were you reading, Danni?

#3 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-09-24 10:34 PM | Reply

Interesting. All these folks attesting to what a swell guy Kav has always been, but here's his college roommate saying, From what I know of Kav, the incoherent, belligerent drunk, and his social circle, yeah, he/they could have done it:

"Based on my time with Brett, I believe that he and his social circle were capable of the actions that Debbie described."

#4 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-09-24 11:04 PM | Reply

"What article were you reading, Danni?"

The one that says: "Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh's roommate from Yale says he believes the second woman accusing Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct.:

And

"Roche said in a statement. "It is from this experience that I concluded that although Brett was normally reserved, he was a notably heavy drinker, even by the standards of the time, and that he became aggressive and belligerent when he was very drunk."

#5 | Posted by danni at 2018-09-24 11:39 PM | Reply

" Despite our living conditions, Brett and I did not socialize beyond the first few days of freshman year."

Translation: We hated each other.

"I did not observe the specific incident in question"

Translation: I have no basis for what I am about to aver to.

"I believe her."

Translation: I still hate him.

#6 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-09-24 11:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Breaking: United Nations call for postponement of Kavanaugh hearings

developing...

#7 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-24 11:53 PM | Reply

#5 | POSTED BY DANNI

That's almost like an eyewitness of the crime.

#8 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-09-24 11:56 PM | Reply

That's almost like an eyewitness of the crime.

#8 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2018-09-24 11:56 PM

But without eyes, and telling you exactly what DNC operatives told him to say for 6 days.

#9 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-09-25 12:02 AM | Reply

Sure she remembers. Every man remembers every -------- he had as a teenager!

#10 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2018-09-25 01:48 AM | Reply

Roche said he issued the statement to support Deborah Ramirez, who was quoted in The New Yorker this week as saying Kavanaugh thrust his exposed penis at her at a college party. Roche said he and Ramirez became close friends at Yale, and she was "unusually honest and straightforward."

"I cannot imagine her making this up," he told ABC-7 News in California. "Based on my time with Brett, I believe that he and his social circle were capable of the actions that Debbie described."

In The New Yorker article, Roche described Ramirez as "exceptionally honest and gentle."

"I did not observe the specific incident in question, but I do remember Brett frequently drinking excessively and becoming incoherently drunk," he said in his statement.

Of course, anyone having anything to say negative about St. Brett is a DNC-brainwashed plant, got it.

Impartial, much? Seems like his detractors go into loads of details and supportive stories as to why they believe as they do. And his supporters only admit to not having any recollection of any such alleged events and please do not ask them anymore questions.

One is not like the other.

#11 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-09-25 08:53 AM | Reply

Sounds like he wasnt invited to the parties, if any actually occurred.

#12 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-09-25 09:01 AM | Reply

Yeah he is just bitter that he wasn't invited to the gang rapes.
- GOP logic

#13 | Posted by bored at 2018-09-25 09:14 AM | Reply

I have problem with what this guy has said. I don't think he's lying....I just don't know what you can do with that...other than report what he said.

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2018-09-25 09:20 AM | Reply

sorry...I meant to say "I have NO problem with what this guy has said".

#15 | Posted by eberly at 2018-09-25 09:23 AM | Reply

.I just don't know what you can do with that...other than report what he said.

Investigate. This guy remembers both objective and subjective things after 30+ years so why shouldn't others that were in and around proximity to the events in question?

It's plausible enough people will remember details when placed under oath or face perjury charges if they're not honest. That is what each accuser has called for, an investigation into themselves and the named witnesses and accuseds.

Not quite understanding why the accused wouldn't want the same thing if they continue to claim complete innocence.

And why wouldn't supporters of Kavanaugh want his accusers to be exposed as fabulists by an on-the-record investigation as they continue to claim the women are publicly?

#16 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-09-25 09:28 AM | Reply

referring specifically to what Roche said, what is there to investigate?

He offered up nothing that can be investigated.

all we can do is this.....discuss it on a blog after it's been reported.

Roche - "I saw nothing except that my roommate was drunk at least once"

how about we ask Roche exactly how many time he saw Kavanaugh drunk? and detail how drunk.

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2018-09-25 09:41 AM | Reply

referring specifically to what Roche said, what is there to investigate?

I answered that question with the next sentence: This guy remembers both objective and subjective things after 30+ years so why shouldn't others that were in and around proximity to the events in question?

He's one person, but not the only person. Ramirez named others who witnessed her allegations and here's the rundown on what we know so far:

"Very often there are not people who are willing to speak in these cases," Ronan Farrow explained. "This case, the primary people who are likely to be witnesses are people alleged to have been egging him on and to have been part of this alleged misconduct."

2 Kavanaugh classmates withdrew from a statement his lawyers issued disputing Ramirez's claims. It is now signed by the 2 men whom Ramirez alleged had egged on Kavanaugh, the wife of the man she said told her to "kiss it," and one other classmate.

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#18 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-09-25 09:52 AM | Reply

so, just go talk to more people. fine. If Roche named names not already known by investigators then fine. go talk to them. He didn't.

Ramirez named names....yes, investigate that.

This is actually becoming fun.

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2018-09-25 09:58 AM | Reply

--Ramirez named names....yes, investigate that.

This is actually becoming fun."

Yeah let's ask Ramirez why it took 6 days of coaching from a Democrat to "recover" her memory.

#20 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-25 10:09 AM | Reply

- 6 days of coaching from a Democrat

And she's still not 100% certain.

I can't wait for Avenatti's 'rape train' story.
This place is going to swallow that whopper whole.

#21 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-09-25 10:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yeah let's ask Ramirez why it took 6 days of coaching from a Democrat to "recover" her memory.

Are you really that stupid that you can't read what she said herself?

For Ramirez, the sudden attention has been unwelcome, and prompted difficult choices. She was at first hesitant to speak publicly, partly because her memories contained gaps because she had been drinking at the time of the alleged incident. In her initial conversations with The New Yorker, she was reluctant to characterize Kavanaugh's role in the alleged incident with certainty. After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections to say that she remembers Kavanaugh had exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party, thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as she pushed him away.
You're a cretin to make unsubstantiated allegations that Democratic operatives "coached" any of these ladies on their stories. First, Blasey wrote a letter in her own words because she felt her congresswoman should known what she claims a SCOTUS nominee had done to her years ago. Second, Ramirez was only located due to the widespread chatter amongst former Yale students who'd all heard the tales of Kavanaugh's alleged display to Ramirez and had openly discussed it ever since, but in July with more seriousness because of the nomination.

Ramirez took time because she didn't want to come forward with such a damning allegation unless she was certain what she remembered did indeed place Kavanaugh as her protagonist. That's called consideration of herself and others, not a rush to judgment and it shows the spirit of her character (which is something you're completely lacking in based on your appalling blindness to documented facts and circumstances).

#22 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-09-25 10:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-She remembers Kavanaugh had exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party, thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as she pushed him away.

I thought she was so wasted that...

1. she didn't know if Kavanaugh was there but she thinks she heard his name uttered by someone else
2. she wasn't sure if it was a real penis or a fake one.

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2018-09-25 10:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

-unless she was certain what she remembered

The times I've been drunk enough to be unable to remember what happened the night before......I never got that memory back. not 6 days later...not 30 years later.

#24 | Posted by eberly at 2018-09-25 10:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-- not 6 days later...not 30 years later.

Not even after 6 days of "assessing" your 30-year old memory with a trained psychologist, er, Democrat activist?

#25 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-25 10:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You know I am really LMAO at all the people posting here who howled for Hillary's hide for years over Bengahzi, etc. without one single shred of evidence was ever produced that I can recall.

Yet when it's "ewer boi" who would be getting a lifetime appointment you are all decrying anyone saying he did inappropriate things and saying just hurry up and vote on him...

I mean we already know he has no ethics and his credibility is shot since he repeatedly lied to congress during his last nomination and appointment and what he lied about (torture, receiving stolen documents - yes the evidence is widely available) but we can't take a week or two to have the FBI investigate and see if there is credibility he also has a history as a sexual predator.

How pathetic and sickening. Bravo Hippocrates!

#26 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-09-25 05:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You know I am really LMAO at all the people posting here who howled for Hillary's hide for years over Bengahzi, etc. without one single shred of evidence was ever produced that I can recall.
Yet when it's "ewer boi" who would be getting a lifetime appointment you are all decrying anyone saying he did inappropriate things and saying just hurry up and vote on him...
I mean we already know he has no ethics and his credibility is shot since he repeatedly lied to congress during his last nomination and appointment and what he lied about (torture, receiving stolen documents - yes the evidence is widely available) but we can't take a week or two to have the FBI investigate and see if there is credibility he also has a history as a sexual predator.
How pathetic and sickening. Bravo Hippocrates!
POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE AT 2018-09-25 05:24 PM | REPLY

Repeated For Necessity.

#27 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-09-25 05:30 PM | Reply

Remember when Louis Learner plead the fifth the right wingers went boombastic and declared she was hiding something?? What are they trying to hide now??

#28 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-09-25 05:38 PM | Reply

#24 | Posted by eberly

I admit it - I used to be a blackout drinker in college. About once a month I dare say. Hell I went to Michigan Tech - that was probably half the college. Not sure how I made it out. That said things do come back - not all of them surely - but most. I embarrassed myself plenty of times.

That said I can honestly say I NEVER behaved while blitzed like Kavanaugh is accused of - it isn't in my character even with all my inhibitions rock bottom. Did I make passes at women - oh hell yes I did - BUT none of this kind of s***. Believe me - someone would have let me know and there would be no end to it. Do I know guys who did? Yes and they were all people I thought of as giant d-bags when not drunk.

#29 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-09-25 05:45 PM | Reply

"Remember when Louis Learner plead the fifth the right wingers went bombastic"

---- them.

That same group was dead silent when the GOP recently decided to weaponize the US tax code.

#30 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-09-25 05:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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I only blacked out once or twice. no memory came back from any of it.

I certainly hope Kavanaugh doesn't try to excuse bad behavior with alcohol.

Americans are tired of that. We've had pedos and other creepos do that. It gives drinkers and druggers a bad name to be lumped in with rapists and pedos.

And I have never done ---- like that either, drunk or sober. I know guys that get mouthy or feel like they are bulletproof when drinking....and suppose it makes some too aggressive with women. But I think predators are predators....they know the line and where to cross it...drunk or sober.

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2018-09-25 05:51 PM | Reply

"Remember when Louis Learner plead the fifth"

who is pleading the 5th now?

#32 | Posted by eberly at 2018-09-25 05:51 PM | Reply

SALT cap ‘weaponizes' the tax code?

#33 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-25 05:52 PM | Reply

"Believe me - someone would have let me know and there would be no end to it."

^
This.
This is what makes Kavanaugh's denial so problematic.

I he had said, "in my youth I had some youthful indiscretions, yadda yadda," that would be one thing.

But he is denying that the incident his school was talking about for days afterward ever happened. He's not just denying he did it, he's denying that anything at all happened.

That's the problem.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-25 06:00 PM | Reply

- "He's not just denying he did it, he's denying that anything at all happened."

Exactly, he states he has no knowledge of this event, if it happened.

What would you expect someone to say in regards to an event to which they have no knowledge of?

To which they were not a party? To which they weren't present?

#35 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-09-25 06:04 PM | Reply

"SALT cap ‘weaponizes' the tax code?"

Steven Moore, one of the world's biggest idiots, was a consultant.
www.bloomberg.com

As was John Feehery:
www.politicususa.com

#36 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-09-25 06:14 PM | Reply

Apparently the Patriot Act supporters don't believe in if you have nothing to fear then you have nothing to hide. Let the sunshine in and open the curtains.

#37 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-09-25 06:28 PM | Reply

At this point I'm still not taking sides as to what may or may not have happened at HS/College parties decades ago.

What I do what to know is why, since republicans are so sure these ladies are DNC plants, investigation/s are being stonewalled?

#38 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2018-09-25 06:56 PM | Reply

Excerpts from a letter of protest from thousands of former Yale Law Students:

Since his campaign launched, Trump has repeatedly promised to appoint justices who would overturn Roe v. Wade. Overturning that decision would endanger the lives of countless people who need or may need abortions, including many who sign this letter. Trump's nomination of Judge Kavanaugh is a reliable way to fulfill his oath. Just a few months ago, Judge Kavanaugh ruled to deny a detained immigrant minor her constitutional right to abortion. Decades-old Supreme Court precedent makes clear that the government may not place an undue burden on a pregnant person's access to abortion. But Judge Kavanaugh clearly did not feel constrained by precedent: what could be a greater obstacle than a cage?... Further, Kavanaugh argued that to require immigration authorities to stop blocking her from accessing this right would force the government into complicity ...

Judge Kavanaugh would also act as a rubber stamp for President Trump's fraud and abuse ...

If elevated, the judge would pose an existential threat to the government's ability to regulate for the common good and further twist the First Amendment beyond recognition ...

Judge Kavanaugh has consistently protected the interests of powerful institutions and disregarded the rights of vulnerable individuals ...

In a 2008 dissent, Judge Kavanaugh argued undocumented workers are not protected by labor laws. In 2016, Judge Kavanaugh ruled that employers can require employees to waive their right to picket ...

We see in these rulings an intellectually and morally bankrupt ideologue intent on rolling back our rights and the rights of our clients ...

Signed by over a thousand graduates of Yale Law School

#39 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-09-25 07:37 PM | Reply

thefederalist.com

For TonyRoma especially

#40 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-09-26 04:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

thefederalist.com
For TonyRoma especially

#40 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

In recently resurfaced footage from 1991, then-senator Biden argues that the FBI investigation into Supreme Court nominee (now justice) Clarence Thomas's conduct was worthless because it did not state conclusively whether Thomas acted inappropriately towards Anita Hill.

He was upset the FBI didn't investigate thoroughly enough to come to a conclusion. And that was 27 years ago.
When you don't read the article, you sound really dumb posting it...

#41 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-09-26 04:19 PM | Reply

Looks like you intentionally omitted the next line:

"The next person that refers to an FBI report as being worth anything obviously doesn't understand anything," Biden said. "FBI explicitly does not, in this or any other case, reach a conclusion. Period."

#42 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-26 04:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

not a rush to judgment and it shows the spirit of her character (which is something you're completely lacking in based on your appalling blindness to documented facts and circumstances).

#22 | POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2018-09-25 10:31 AM | FLAG: | NEWSWORTHY 1

Hey moron, if there were documented facts and circumstances A. There would not be a hearing tomorrow and B. The NY Times would not have rejected her story.

#43 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-09-26 04:42 PM | Reply

He was upset the FBI didn't investigate thoroughly enough to come to a conclusion. And that was 27 years ago.
When you don't read the article, you sound really dumb posting it...

#41 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2018-09-26 04:19 PM | FLAG:

And when you purposely omit the most important line you look like the normal idiot that you are.

#44 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-09-26 04:45 PM | Reply

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