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The reactions from many Republicans to (the Ford allegation) is a reminder to women about where that party stands on these kinds of issues. For example, there is the immediate attempt to deny the allegations and find something to discredit the accuser. Most often there is an attempt to divide victims into those who are Republican and those who are Democrats, because the latter must simply be lying for "political" reasons. It's as if sexual assault came with a party label.

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Over the years, Republicans have reminded women over and over again that they don't take sexual assault seriously. Regardless of what you think about Brett Kavanaugh or Christine Blasey Ford's allegations, we're getting a good reminder of the fact that they still don't.

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Beyond all of that, Eric Levitz reminds us that some of the people who are being dismissive about allegations that a teenager committed sexual assault are the same ones who want children as young as 13 to be tried as adults and teenagers to be labelled as sexual predators for life because they texted naked pictures of themselves. The guy who nominated Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court called for the execution of five teenagers in New York before they even stepped into a court room, where they were eventually found to be innocent based on DNA evidence.

In other words, what we are about to witness when it comes to Kavanaugh is a lot of pearl-clutching that is not only dismissive of the trauma of sexual assault, it is about how boys make "mistakes" when they're young and grow up to be men of fine character. The problem is that all too often that kind of compassion is only extended to white boys who went to fancy prep schools.

Fairly on-point assessment based upon history and today: One standard for the privileged, and another for everyone else not in their favor.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-09-17 04:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The GOP's Dirty War Against Brett Kavanaugh's Accuser Has Begun

After taking her sexual assault allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh public in the Washington Post over the weekend, Christine Blasey Ford found herself the subject of an emerging smear campaign on Monday, led by the top Republicans in Washington, who are dedicated to getting Kavanaugh onto the court above all else.

It started in earnest with Sen. Orrin Hatch, the Republican from Utah, who told CNN that Kavanaugh had assured him that "didn't do that, and he wasn't at the party" where the alleged assault occurred.

Hatch went on to say Ford must just be "mixed up" about her story, in which she describes a high school-aged Kavanaugh drunkenly holding her down, groping her, and covering her mouth when she tried to scream.

When pressed on whether he believes Ford, a research psychologist from California, Hatch replied: "I think she's mistaken."

Here we go ladies.

#2 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-09-17 06:20 PM | Reply

Come on...let's get real.

This isn't a "GOP" problem.

Just look at the parade of liberals out of Hollywood accused of sexual misdeeds.

What a load of crap saying this is how the GOP looks at women.

#3 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2018-09-17 08:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 5 | Newsworthy 1

This isn't a "GOP" problem.

No one is saying sexual assault is any one party's problem, don't be obtuse.

This article correctly denotes that whenever any GOPer is accused of sexual assault against a woman, the default position is for universal party defense of the accused along with throwing whatever dirt is available upon the accuser and those who support her.

Need we remind you of what happened with Al Franken? Even then it was the Democrats demanding that he step down while Republicans stayed quiet (spawning bylines such as this: Why are No Republican Senators Calling for Al Franken to Resign?) lest they have to answer as to why they either supported or stayed largely quiet about Roy Moore.

Name one case of a GOPer being accused of sexual assault against a woman where the GOP led the charge of demanding he be held responsible for his conduct as the Democrats did with Franken.

We'll wait.

#4 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-09-17 08:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

"What a load of crap saying this is how the GOP looks at women."

This is about how the GOP looks at women who have made allegations of sexual harassment against Deep State GOP operators like Kavanaugh.

The GOP considers them to be liars, -----, lushes, and whores.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-17 08:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Name one case of a GOPer being accused of sexual assault against a woman"

A woman?

Poor old Bill's gonna have to comb through countless allegations made by men before he even gets to any women, let alone ones the GOP didn't immediately try to smear.

You are going to trigger him by exposing him to so much homosexual GOP behavior!

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-17 08:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

wow!!

#metoo perps are all Liberals!

#7 | Posted by Maverick at 2018-09-17 08:58 PM | Reply

Jebus, you are one idiotic soul. Repeating the same dreck from earlier? Again:

"...probably because almost all the perps are liberals." - #195 | Posted by Maverick at 2018-09-17 11:17 AM

Roy Moore is a liberal?
Pat Meehan is a liberal?
Trent Franks is a liberal?
Joe Barton is a liberal?
Tim Murphy is a liberal?
Blake Farenthold is a liberal?
Herman Cain is a liberal?
Scott DesJarlais is a liberal?
Donald Trump is a liberal?

#201 | POSTED BY HANS AT 2018-09-17 11:26 AM

Go away fool!

#8 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-09-17 09:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 9

Come on...let's get real.

This isn't a "GOP" problem.

Just look at the parade of liberals out of Hollywood accused of sexual misdeeds.

What a load of crap saying this is how the GOP looks at women.

#3 | Posted by BillJohnson

The DNC ousted Al Franken because he PRETENDED to jokingly grab a woman's ----- while she was wearing body armor.

The GOP spends all day protecting a confessed sex predator and half of them supported a child molester for senate.

Yeah those are totally equal.

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-09-17 09:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 10

Not "officially" the GOP, but one of its preferred organs:

Conservative website Drudge Report shared an article on Monday that attempted to smear the credibility of a woman who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her when they were in high school. But the hit piece, published by another outlet, targeted the wrong person.

Drudge Report tweeted a link to a story published on Grabien News that claimed it had discovered a trove of negative reviews written by former students of a professor named Christine Ford.

"Christine Ford is the worst educator I have experienced," one former student wrote in a review on RateMyProfessor.com. "Avoid taking her class and avoid any interaction with this person."

But Grabien News' sloppy sleuthing led them to the wrong Christine Ford. Christine A. Ford, the subject of the harsh reviews, is a licensed social worker who taught at California State University Fullerton.

Christine Blasey Ford, Kavanaugh's accuser, teaches at Palo Alto University.

#10 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-09-17 09:12 PM | Reply

#8 "I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant, that stupid persons are generally Conservative. I believe that to be so obvious and undeniable a fact that I hardly think any hon. Gentleman will question it."

"Stupidity is much the same all the world over. A stupid person's notions and feelings may confidently be inferred from those which prevail in the circle by which the person is surrounded. Not so with those whose opinions and feelings are an emanation from their own nature and faculties."

Both quotes by John Stuart Mill.

#11 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-09-17 09:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

We haven't really heard from the accuser yet. By that I mean, we haven't heard her testimony. Or the testimony of any witnesses to the event or to her subsequent reactions after the event. We do have the letter she wrote to Feinstein, which begins to give some idea as to her credibility. But unless you start from the premise of "All accusers are to be believed" or "All accusers are liars," or from the premise "She's a Democrat and he's a Republican, so she/he must be telling the truth by virtue of their party affiliation," I don't see how anyone can say for sure at this point which one of them is telling the truth.

#12 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-09-17 09:24 PM | Reply

Tony,

No...this is not the way conservatives and the "GOP" regard women for the most part. There's always specific men who have problems respecting women.

My point was that the majority of the accused we have heard about the last couple of years have been left leaning individuals but not necessarily politically active but leaning to the left all the same.

It would be interesting to create a through list of all names we have heard where some touching occurred or unwanted sexual advances that have been proven.

#13 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2018-09-17 09:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 8

Bill,

You obviously didn't bother reading the title and the opening paragraphs:

The reactions from many Republicans to (the Ford allegation) is a reminder to women about where that party stands on these kinds of issues. For example, there is the immediate attempt to deny the allegations and find something to discredit the accuser. Most often there is an attempt to divide victims into those who are Republican and those who are Democrats, because the latter must simply be lying for "political" reasons.

Over the years, Republicans have reminded women over and over again that they don't take sexual assault seriously.

The issue is the nearly universal repetition of the GOP ALWAYS backing their men (in politics) who stand credibly accused by women of sexual or personal transgressions. It has nothing to do specifically with Me Too or liberal/Democrats because we do not automatically seek to undermine the accuser's character in lockstep coordination.

Democrats led the call for Al Franken to resign without him even mounting much of a counterdefense once multiple women accused him of questionable behavior. The GOP not only didn't break ties with, they full-throatily supported a candidate caught on tape admitting that he sexually assaulted women by "grab(bing) 'em by the (kitty)." One is not like the other.

When if ever has the GOP led the call for one of its white male members to resign from their elected position without an indictment or legal finding of guilt regarding credible allegations of sexual assault? You still haven't answered the question.

#14 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-09-17 10:06 PM | Reply

Can't wait to watch a bunch of old Republican men badger an alleged sexual assault victim in front of America next week. It's almost like they want to be irrelevant forever.

#15 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-17 10:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Can't wait to watch a bunch of old Republican men badger an alleged sexual assault victim in front of America next week. It's almost like they want to be irrelevant forever.

#15 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2018-09-17 10:10 PM

If they are smart they'll ask very pointed questions with very soft vocal tones. If they are smart they won't make this about her, they'll make it about a lack of corroboration. Unfortunately for them, they usually aren't smart.

#16 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-17 10:14 PM | Reply

I don't think they can win here, Jeff. If they ask very pointed questions she'll answer and then launch into a narrative. If they interrupt her they'll look terrible. If they let her speak, Kavanaugh looks terrible.

#17 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-17 10:17 PM | Reply

You're probably right, Joe.

I think the bizarre thing is Hatch has said that Kavanaugh denies even being at the party in question. Given how few details have come out, how can he even know which party she is referencing?

The biggest thing will be corroborating evidence. If she doesn't have any then we are relying solely on her memory of an event that occurred almost 4 decades ago. As a lawyer you are surely aware of how unreliable people's memory can be in a trial (yes, I know this is won't be a trial).

#18 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-17 10:27 PM | Reply

She wouldn't be showing up if she weren't confident in her ability to recall (or look like she recalls). I also expect her to say things like "you don't forget being raped, it stays with you forever."

Lack of memory plays against Kavanaugh too, especially if he was drunk.

#19 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-17 10:41 PM | Reply

I'm sorry, but what a load of horse dung.

Have we forgotten the fact that many 'victim's' turn out to be liars & money seekers? Not to mention, the months & almost non-stop take down's & immediate resignation's, on top of high-profile prison sentences, we've all been witness to? Oh, people are getting their due. Believe it.

If a woman chooses to blame any man for defending his reputation by any legal means, in today's social climate concerning this topic, well you're just not too smart or honest a person then. I imagine you're prolly not too fun to be around either.

This man hating s*** needs to disappear & allow everything to play out & take its rightful course. Those who deserve it will get theirs. But, acting as if all men are like this & treating many as such....it just ain't right, does not align with the way women & LGBTQ expect, rightfully, to be treated, and frankly is one of the rare things these days that I will not tolerate one second of, in public or here.

My older sister is gay, lesbian, wtf ever. Point is who cares...no one but you. But, I digress.

At one point my sister had a g/f for about 4 years, and over that time I came to know her g/f as a true man-hater. To the point where even my sister began to take on that persona & mentality, which is not, and never has been her. IOW's, I know a thing or two about man-hating & y'all need to chill. Hate men who are priX all day, just stop lumping us together, please.

#20 | Posted by 9mmHeater at 2018-09-18 01:04 AM | Reply

"Have we forgotten the fact that many 'victim's' turn out to be liars & money seekers?"

How many?
What about the other ones?

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-18 03:35 AM | Reply

This man hating s*** needs to disappear

What evidence do you have that she is a "man hating ----?" Please be specific.

acting as if all men are like this

The only people doing that are Kavanaugh defenders claiming this was your average everyday teenage mistake.

You sound mad. Mad that your regressive judge who wants to take us back to the 50's won't be confirmed. Get used to losing. The Republican party is about to be irrelevant forever.

#22 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-18 07:58 AM | Reply

What a load of crap saying this is how the GOP looks at women.

" Todd Akin, said this during a TV interview: "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.""

"Republican candidate for governor, Clayton Williams, told reporters "a joke" about rape. It was foggy and cold and Williams compared the nasty weather to a rape and told reporters, "If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it." "

"Ken Buck, who ran for Senate in Colorado, declined to prosecute an accused rapist, even though the accused admitted to police that his victim had told him "No" before he raped her. Buck felt a jury would decide that the victim was experiencing "buyer's remorse.""

"Republican state lawmaker from Florida, Kathleen Passidomo, explained her support for a school dress code bill thusly: "There was an article about an 11-year-old girl who was gang-raped in Texas by 18 young men because she was dressed like a 21-year-old prostitute," "

"Rep. Jason Lewis on the "Jason Lewis Show," a syndicated radio program Lewis hosted from 2009 until 2014 with the tagline "America's Mr. Right." In one instance, while arguing that "young single women" vote based on coverage of birth control pills, Lewis said those women were not human beings and were without brains."

"When radio host Rush Limbaugh called women's rights activists and then-graduate student Sandra Fluke "a ----" in February 2012, Lewis repeatedly expressed disbelief that people could no longer refer to women as -----."

"Courtland Sykes explained his 1950s approach to gender relations. "In light of recent questions regarding my views on Women's Rights, attached is my full statement," he posted to his official campaign Facebook page, as CBS News points out. Sykes opens the statement by saying his fiancée, Chanel Rion, has given him orders to favor women's rights, but his "obedience" comes with a price. "I want to come home to a home-cooked dinner at six every night," he writes. "One that she fixes and one that I expect one day to have daughters learn to fix after they become traditional homemakers and family wives -- think Norman Rockwell here and Gloria Steinem be damned.""

"Two-term Republican Rep. Robert Fisher, 31, was identified last month by The Daily Beast as the creator of the Reddit community The Red Pill, which champions so-called "pickup artists" and blames feminism for societal woes. Testifying before a state House committee Tuesday, Fisher argued that his online statements revealed by the Daily Beast investigation -- including comments deriding women's intelligence, detailing ways for men to dodge rape accusations and questioning whether rape itself was wholly bad -- have been misreported and misconstrued."

"Mike Cernovich is the sort of person that makes you question whether the internet is a good idea. An outspoken promoter of the false claim that a pizza restaurant in Washington, D.C. was a front for a pedophile ring involving Hillary Clinton, Cernovich offers men advice like "misogyny gets you laid" and "the hotter the sex, the more closely it resembles rape.""

#23 | Posted by 726 at 2018-09-18 08:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I think the bizarre thing is Hatch has said that Kavanaugh denies even being at the party in question. Given how few details have come out, how can he even know which party she is referencing?

Exactly.

They are just trying to railroad through Kavanaugh.

#24 | Posted by 726 at 2018-09-18 08:18 AM | Reply

"Have we forgotten the fact that many 'victim's' turn out to be liars & money seekers?"
How many?
What about the other ones?

#21 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2018-09-18 03:35 AM | REPLY | FLAG

Don't hold your breath.

He is just talking out of his ass.

#25 | Posted by 726 at 2018-09-18 08:19 AM | Reply

#20.

Oh dear. Someone's got some unresolved issues.

#26 | Posted by YAV at 2018-09-18 08:20 AM | Reply

the bizarre thing is Hatch has said that Kavanaugh denies even being at the party in question.

The GOP just happened to have tracked down 65 women from Kavanaugh's teenage years who were ready to sign a letter the same night these allegations came out so the letter could be released at 11am the next day. It's almost like they knew this was coming.

#27 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-18 08:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The GOP just happened to have tracked down 65 women from Kavanaugh's teenage years who were ready to sign a letter....

As of last night it was being reported that only 6 of those 65 have stated that they continue to vouch for Kavanaugh's character after the Ford allegations, while over 200 women from Ford's high school have signed on to a letter of support for her and the number keeps increasing.

#28 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-09-18 08:34 AM | Reply

#27 They knew since June. They still pushed him. He's got some strong quid pro quo going on with Trump.

Now only 2 of those women will go on record supporting him since it was learned he is accused of attempted rape.

That tells me those 65 women did not know him well and were not told the circumstances of why they were being asked to sign that letter.

Then there is this...splinternews.com

Hundreds of Women From Christine Blasey Ford's High School Sign Letter Supporting Her

We are alumnae of Holton-Arms School, and we are writing in support of Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, a fellow Holton graduate.

We believe Dr. Blasey Ford and are grateful that she came forward to tell her story. It demands a thorough and independent investigation before the Senate can reasonably vote on Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to a lifetime seat on the nation's highest court.

Dr. Blasey Ford's experience is all too consistent with stories we heard and lived while attending Holton. Many of us are survivors ourselves.

Holton's motto teaches students to "find a way or make one." We dream of making a world where women are free from harassment, assault and sexual violence. We hold deep gratitude to Dr. Blasey Ford for bravely stepping forward and bringing us closer to that world we all seek.

The letter concludes by saying it has already been signed by "200+" Holton Arms alumnae stretching from 1968 through the present day.

#29 | Posted by 726 at 2018-09-18 08:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They knew since June. They still pushed him. He's got some strong quid pro quo going on with Trump.

Yep. There are dozens of highly qualified judges who are anti-Roe and pro-2nd Amendment. So why does it have to be Kavanaugh in light of the fact that he's an accused rapist?

#30 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-18 08:38 AM | Reply

"So why does it have to be Kavanaugh in light of the fact that he's an accused rapist?"

Two reasons that immediately come to mind are that one, Trump has a ridiculously narrow definition of rape when it's a white man doing it and doesn't really care, and two, Kavanaugh has criticized what happened to Nixon.

#31 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2018-09-18 08:41 AM | Reply

"Dr. Blasey Ford's experience is all too consistent with stories we heard and lived while attending Holton. Many of us are survivors ourselves."

When the #metoo movement first started, most women could relate to stories of sexual harassment in the workplace because it had either happened to them or to someone they knew. I think something similar is true when it comes to high school/college experiences of attempted rape/rape. I think a significant number of women are able to relate for the same reasons, but most of these incidents are never reported.

#32 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-09-18 10:01 AM | Reply

It was ridiculous that Franken was asked step down and even more ridiculous that he did so. I'm not a Franken fan.

#33 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-09-18 11:10 AM | Reply

It was ridiculous that Franken was asked step down and even more ridiculous that he did so. I'm not a Franken fan.

#33 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Agreed. Keep in mind though that it surfaced during the height of #metoo and his seat went to another Democrat.

#34 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-09-18 11:17 AM | Reply

Dems needed to push him out to maintain the high road against actual sexual assaulters like Donald Trump. Since the GOP has nothing more than whataboutism, they would be talking about Franken nonstop to this day if he hadn't stepped down.

A shame, he was one of the best senators the modern democratic party has had in my opinion.

#35 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-18 11:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Dems needed to push him out to maintain the high road against actual sexual assaulters like Donald Trump. Since the GOP has nothing more than whataboutism, they would be talking about Franken nonstop to this day if he hadn't stepped down.
A shame, he was one of the best senators the modern democratic party has had in my opinion."

Yeah, that's why senators like Gillibrand pushed him out without an investigation. It was a dangerous precedent to establish, IMO. We need take these kinds of claims seriously by having the FBI or the Senate or House ethics committees investigate them.

#36 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-09-18 11:49 AM | Reply

I agree completely. Just describing the politics of it.

#37 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-18 11:54 AM | Reply

"Keep in mind though that it surfaced during the height of #metoo and his seat went to another Democrat."

Relevance?

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-18 12:01 PM | Reply

"Two reasons that immediately come to mind are that one, Trump has a ridiculously narrow definition of rape when it's a white man doing it and doesn't really care, and two, Kavanaugh has criticized what happened to Nixon."

I think you're right about all that, but I offer a much simpler understanding.

Occam's Razor simple.

Justice Kennedy's son was Trump's alleged money launderer at Deutsche Bank.

Justice Kennedy announced his retirement as soon as his son's alleged criminal role was revealed.

Justice Kennedy's clerk was Kavanaugh.

Justice Kennedy recommended Kavanaugh to Trump

This is all about keeping it in the family.

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-18 12:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You left out that Chewbacca is a wookie that lives on the planet Endor.

#40 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-09-18 12:31 PM | Reply

#40

It's Kashyyk, FFS.

#41 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2018-09-18 12:34 PM | Reply

That does not make sense.

#42 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-09-18 12:47 PM | Reply

The biggest thing will be corroborating evidence. If she doesn't have any then we are relying solely on her memory of an event that occurred almost 4 decades ago. As a lawyer you are surely aware of how unreliable people's memory can be in a trial (yes, I know this is won't be a trial).

#18 | Posted by JeffJ

He's not asking her about a movie she saw 40 years ago, he's asking her about a potential rape she escaped from. Those events tend to be written down in the brain with a lot more detail.

Crazy story - When I was a kid some pedophile at a mall tried to kidnap and molest me but I got away. This was over 30 years ago but I could still give a sketch artist an exact description of that sicko.

#43 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-09-18 12:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"At one point my sister had a g/f for about 4 years, and over that time I came to know her g/f as a true man-hater." - #20 | Posted by 9mmHeater at 2018-09-18 01:04 AM

Well no wonder she's a "true man-hater."

Her g/f's brother is you.

"I know a thing or two about man-hating..."

That's very believable.

"Hate men who are priX all day..."

I wouldn't say we actually hate you...

#44 | Posted by Hans at 2018-09-18 01:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

As much as you want to believe you are that special individual with perfect memory. You are most likely not.

#45 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-09-18 01:09 PM | Reply

As much as you want to believe you are that special individual with perfect memory. You are most likely not.

#45 | Posted by visitor_

You don't need a perfect memory to remember who tried to rape you.

#46 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-09-18 01:33 PM | Reply

It was ridiculous that Franken was asked step down and even more ridiculous that he did so. I'm not a Franken fan.
#33 | POSTED BY VISITOR_
Agreed. Keep in mind though that it surfaced during the height of #metoo and his seat went to another Democrat.
#34 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

We boot'em.

You promote'em.

That's the difference in the parties.

#47 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-09-18 02:57 PM | Reply

Come on...let's get real.
This isn't a "GOP" problem.
Just look at the parade of liberals out of Hollywood accused of sexual misdeeds.
What a load of crap saying this is how the GOP looks at women.
#3 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

This comment can't be talked about enough. This is how Republicans try to escape the issue.

YES, dummy, both parties have people who do these things. But its HOW they are handled which makes the difference. Liberals weren't going after Al Franken's accuser and calling it political. No one asked what political party she belonged to or tried to smear her. Instead, the Dems immediately demanded an investigation and forced Franken to resign.

#48 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-09-18 03:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

My point was that the majority of the accused we have heard about the last couple of years have been left leaning individuals but not necessarily politically active but leaning to the left all the same.
It would be interesting to create a through list of all names we have heard where some touching occurred or unwanted sexual advances that have been proven.

#13 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

It's nice that you pretend that because they work in Hollywood that they are liberals. Apparently every rich guy in Hollywood or in entertainment is a liberal.

So does this mean we can associate all the priest abuse with Conservatives? And should we go down the list of disgraced conservatives and church leaders?

#49 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-09-18 03:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Here Are The Ways Christine Blasey Ford's Story Is Being Dismissed

*Well, Kavanaugh Didn't Sexually Assault Every Woman
*If It Could Happen To Kavanaugh, It Could Happen To Any Man
*Ford Got Low Marks On A Professor-Rating Website
*It Was So Long Ago
*They Were Just Horsing Around
*Something About The Salem Witch Trials
*Something About The Russia Investigation
*Ford Bears A Grudge Against Kavanaugh's Mom

How many of these can you find in posts over the last couple days? Other than one I introduced myself, I've seen 5.

#50 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-09-18 04:00 PM | Reply

What evidence do you have that she is a "man hating ----?" Please be specific.

By Joe

That was a direct reaction to the 'headline' of the thread, which is obvious bait.

Who needs to read the article with a title such as that? If you do need to, you're likely 12 years old and haven't experienced the different ways the left uses words to attack huge groups of people (bigotry).

You've also not watched as they, to this day, get a pass & get away with it. Not with me they don't. I ain't biting. I said my 2 pennies.

#51 | Posted by 9mmHeater at 2018-09-18 05:56 PM | Reply

"If you do need to, you're likely 12 years old and haven't experienced the different ways the left uses words to attack huge groups of people (bigotry)."

I like how you used words ("the left") to attack huge groups of people ("the left". Which is bigotry.

Welcome to our side, bigoted leftist!

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-18 06:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Syc,

"It's nice that you pretend that because they work in Hollywood that they are liberals"

I didn't say just Hollywood. Anyone who has been discussed in the news.

If you're going to add priests, you will have to mention them by name and proven. That would have to be a rule. You can't just generally assume all priests pester little kids. Sure...consider them conservative but proven.

Get on it....I'd love to see someone work on this all the names who have made the news the last couple of years. Especially since METOO has been in the news.

And then evaluate the things they say or write or support or who they mostly associate and consider them simply left or right.

That would be interesting to see.

And don't include he said, she said nonsense. Proven unwanted pestering and/or abuse of power to gain sexual favors.

#53 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2018-09-18 08:37 PM | Reply

you're sick. seek help

#54 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-09-18 08:40 PM | Reply

Alex,

You know...I was going to add you to my do my respond list.

But I'll do better than that.

Rogers....so long......

#55 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2018-09-18 09:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Pop the champagne!

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-18 09:03 PM | Reply

Not claiming to know the future or anything weird like that, but in regards to my #20 let's all read what the democrat senator, Hirono, from Hawaii, said today. Oh, btw, she's on the Senate Judiciary Committee overseeing the confirmation proceedings on Kavanaugh.

She was, 'Asked whether her being one of four women on the Senate Judiciary Committee impacts the Kavanaugh confirmation proceedings?'

Here's the 2nd paragraph of her answer & they are her words.

HIRONO: "I expect the men in this country and the men in this committee because we all signed on to this letter to demand an FBI investigation. But really guess who is perpetuating all of these kinds of actions? It's the men in this country. And I just want to say to the men in this country: just shut up and step up, do the right thing for a change."

Anyone care to tell me how this is not an indictment of ALL men in this country? Again, just use her words, not mine. Like I said, this man-hating s*** needs to stop. It does not advance the many gender causes occurring today, in any way. It is 'hate-speech' directed at 'the men in this country'.

Democrats of the DR, this is a great opportunity to show you are not the lords of the double standard. Here's a chance to show that you can be intellectually honest. I leave that choice to you.

#57 | Posted by 9mmHeater at 2018-09-18 11:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

HIRONO: "I expect the men in this country and the men in this committee because we all signed on to this letter to demand an FBI investigation. But really guess who is perpetuating all of these kinds of actions? It's the men in this country. And I just want to say to the men in this country: just shut up and step up, do the right thing for a change."

Here's the video:

www.nbcnews.com

#58 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-09-18 11:55 PM | Reply

"Anyone care to tell me how this is not an indictment of ALL men in this country? Again, just use her words, not mine. Like I said, this man-hating s*** needs to stop. It does not advance the many gender causes occurring today, in any way. It is 'hate-speech' directed at 'the men in this country'."

It's not.

#59 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-09-18 11:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Gal, do you always reply out of context? Or is it yet another reading comprehension issue at the DR?

'It's not', is not a sufficient reply to explaining HOW this is not, which is how the question was posed. Or is it another case of conveniently ignoring something you care not to deal with?

I'm all ears. Eyes, as it were.

#60 | Posted by 9mmHeater at 2018-09-19 12:43 AM | Reply

Now, the more I think about it, just keep going with this kind of stuff democrats, please.

Out of all of us horrible, lying, raping men of America, which is all of us apparently, many of us will view this for what it is; man-hating. And many of those worthless pieces of s*** men are certainlly democrats, while the rest fall into any other spectrum politically, if any.

Looks and sounds like other times where democrats imploded with little to no help from anyone. Y'all just do it yourselves, or have in my lifetime, at certain times & not always, but definitely since 2016 this time.

It's like Carlin says, and I'm paraphrasing. 'When you're born on planet earth, you're actually given a ticket for a front row seat to the freak show.'

And it's always a freak show with our government. But the shows ya get from the left, really are the special ones.

#61 | Posted by 9mmHeater at 2018-09-19 12:59 AM | Reply

Btw, Tony, if you don't notice when you view the thread again, let me point it out to you.

Your baited headline was swallowed, spit out, & then spit on in #60 & #61.

If you don't understand why, you are lying to yourself or are too narcissistic to ever admit a position you may take could be misguided, or worse wrong.

#62 | Posted by 9mmHeater at 2018-09-19 02:09 AM | Reply

you are lying to yourself or are too narcissistic to ever admit a position you may take could be misguided, or worse wrong.

#62 | POSTED BY 9MMHEATER

LOL

I love these podunk cow pies acting like they get why the Farmers Only commercials are hilarious as f---.

#63 | Posted by jpw at 2018-09-19 02:29 AM | Reply

What I love even more, is when people make judgements of others based on almost no information, and then attempt a 'joke' aimed at the stereotype they've already created in their mind, and it's all wrong & irrelevant.

Dude, just for one, I don't do TV commercial's & haven't for several years. It's OD or streaming for me & that's it. So... Whifff!

#64 | Posted by 9mmHeater at 2018-09-19 02:50 AM | Reply

I'm warning ya, JP, I've been in a mode & a mood the last two night's on the DR.

If you're ready then bring it however you choose to, but be ready. I don't think anyone wants a piece of me & what I have to say & how I have to say it, right now.

Yep. That's arrogant as hell, but I ain't kidding. Just have a browse thru & see for yourself. No one has come back to me, on a single topic, with anything that resembles a coherent reply over the past 36 hours.

Why do you think that is? Cause I'm speaking Truth, bro, that's it. So, come & get it if ya want. It's free.

#65 | Posted by 9mmHeater at 2018-09-19 02:57 AM | Reply

Ummmm... I do have to admit, tho, JP would be the only one who came at me with anything credible or worthy.

I refuse to say what thread, tho, cause I've already been too honest. lol

#66 | Posted by 9mmHeater at 2018-09-19 03:04 AM | Reply

#66 - 9MMHEATER is holding blog court to unite the rapists and LIARS of the far right.

Post your comments in Russian so 9MMHEATER can correctly guess the context.

#67 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2018-09-19 09:12 AM | Reply

"What a load of crap saying this is how the GOP looks at women." - #3 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2018-09-17 08:31 PM

As I understand it, you're kind of new to the whole heterosexual thing.

Maybe one day you'll figure it all out.

#68 | Posted by Hans at 2018-09-19 11:56 AM | Reply

Syc,
"It's nice that you pretend that because they work in Hollywood that they are liberals"
I didn't say just Hollywood. Anyone who has been discussed in the news.
If you're going to add priests, you will have to mention them by name and proven. That would have to be a rule. You can't just generally assume all priests pester little kids. Sure...consider them conservative but proven.
Get on it....I'd love to see someone work on this all the names who have made the news the last couple of years. Especially since METOO has been in the news.
And then evaluate the things they say or write or support or who they mostly associate and consider them simply left or right.
That would be interesting to see.
And don't include he said, she said nonsense. Proven unwanted pestering and/or abuse of power to gain sexual favors.

#53 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Just discussed in the news? I'm sorry Fox News doesn't bring out allegations against Conservatives. Get off Fox and Brietbart and you'd see a laundry list of accusations against Conservatives.

And as far as Priests go, I don't think I can post the hundreds, if not thousands, that have been labeled in suits and settled subsequently by the Church.

And its all He Said, She Said. Most of this is never proven. If it requires a conviction, then none of this ever happened.

But I see you conveniently ignoring the difference between how the Left and Right handle these matters. I'll leave you to dwell on it.

#69 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-09-19 02:32 PM | Reply

Get on it....I'd love to see someone work on this all the names who have made the news the last couple of years. Especially since METOO has been in the news.
And then evaluate the things they say or write or support or who they mostly associate and consider them simply left or right.
That would be interesting to see.

If it is so "interesting" why don't YOU do the research then get back with us. Prove you own point. Quit asking others to do YOUR work for you.

Your belief system, much like Humpy's, leaves a lot to be desired , therefore your "opinion" requires citation.

#70 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-09-19 02:38 PM | Reply

Sure...consider them conservative but proven.
bj

denny haestert comes to mind.

what about sandusky?

those two are proven

#71 | Posted by cjk85 at 2018-09-19 05:07 PM | Reply

#67

You're right, Medz.

I am a Russian-Nazi, white-supremacist, rapist.

Now that we have that out of the way, maybe you can make a reply that isn't just name calling with no connection to a topic.

#72 | Posted by 9mmHeater at 2018-09-19 05:12 PM | Reply

Sorry, I forgot to add that I'm a liar, which you alleged, as well.

Although, that sorta makes my 72 a lie? Hmmm....

Well, I guess you just have to trust me when I say I'm a liar, Medz.

#73 | Posted by 9mmHeater at 2018-09-19 05:16 PM | Reply

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