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Thursday, September 13, 2018

David Silverman we've heard about. Michael Shermer was no surprise. Lawrence Krauss was even less of a surprise. Richard Carrier came as a surprise though. A science historian and popular secularist speaker, Carrier has both apologized for and denied accusations of unwanted sexual advances at secularist and atheist events. He has been banned from at least one conference.


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Organized secularism has been struggling with charges of misogyny, sexism and sexual harassment for almost a decade.

The problem first went public in 2011 when a then-little-known atheist blogger, Rebecca Watson, described unwanted sexual advances from a man at an atheist conference who followed her into an elevator and to her hotel room.

She was flooded with both supportive and haranguing comments. World-renowned atheist Richard Dawkins told her to "stop whining" and "grow up." Dawkins -- whose appearances at secularist gatherings can make or break attendance -- has been called out multiple times for sexist statements but remains much in demand as a speaker.


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Got 'em now!!!


#1 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-09-13 09:51 PM | Reply

Note to the idiot who penned this garbage (and the dope who posted it): These people are not leaders and no atheists give crap about anything they say.

#2 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-09-13 09:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Dawkins books sales says otherwise.

#3 | Posted by Tor at 2018-09-13 09:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

I have sinned! -- Jimmy Swaggart

#4 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-09-13 10:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Oh...so, now it's 5?


#5 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-09-13 10:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

(CNN) Gallery of Famous Pastors' Scandals

#6 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-09-13 10:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Pope calls for entire Church to pray and fast after clerical sexual abuse revelations.

#7 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-09-13 10:17 PM | Reply

"(CNN) Gallery of Famous Pastors' Scandals" - #6 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-09-13 10:05 PM

Every time I return to Pinellas County, I always take a sentimental ride down Gulf Boulevard, starting in Clearwater Beach all the way to St. Petersburg Beach (Johns Pass Village in Madeira Beach ("Mad Beach") is a must stop!).

Of course, that takes me by the Sheraton Sand Key, where Jim Bakker and Jessica Hahn had their rendezvous.

Makes me smile.

#8 | Posted by Hans at 2018-09-13 10:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

More depravity than you can shake a priest's crosier at.

#9 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-09-13 10:23 PM | Reply

Tor, wouldn't you think it would be more like 100% of atheists, since they have no moral compass to guide them?}

Or... are you saying it is 100% of atheists, it's just only these four have lost their Deep State protection or whatever.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-13 10:41 PM | Reply

Two wrongs don't make anything right.

I'm not attempting to compare this to what's going on with the Catholic Church's apparent series of cover-ups.

This does however merit note.

One of the signers of the second humanist Manifesto even warned there's something terribly wrong with the new atheists.

#11 | Posted by Tor at 2018-09-13 10:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

I love it.

Tor is so obsessed with trashing atheists he thinks this warrants attention despite it being overshadowed by the thousands upon thousands of cases of abuse perpetrated by religions of all stripes.

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2018-09-13 11:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

It was worthy of the Washington Post.

And rather than calling the question why I think it's worth posting you might want to consider what the article has to say.

#13 | Posted by Tor at 2018-09-13 11:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

"...you might want to consider what the article has to say."

It says nothing of interest to anyone except athiest-phobes like yourself.

#14 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-09-14 08:05 AM | Reply

I don't remember hearing atheists condemning folk to an alternate dimensions populated by fire and soul sucking demons if they have kinky sex.

#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-09-14 10:57 AM | Reply

Look at that angry non dad thinks that sexual predators at events isn't anything to be concerned about.

#16 | Posted by Tor at 2018-09-14 11:57 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#16 Actually, if you read his post history, you will see he is concerned about "sexual predators at events".
(catholic priests)

#17 | Posted by autonomous at 2018-09-14 12:03 PM | Reply

Is he?

#18 | Posted by Tor at 2018-09-14 12:17 PM | Reply

Turns out atheism really is another religion.

#19 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-09-14 12:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

#11 Yup, 4 harrassers is very wrong when compared to thousands of child rapists.

#20 | Posted by bored at 2018-09-14 06:21 PM | Reply


Bored, don't do what Putin does.

#21 | Posted by Tor at 2018-09-14 07:32 PM | Reply

The Salt Lake Trib is a closeted Mormon paper, as opposed to Deseret News, which is openly LDS.

The hypocrisy here is, how they've swept rapes under the rug, blamed victims at BYU and Missionary school, and even sued rape victims to shut them up.

Most Mormons I know are decent people and family centered, but they circle the wagons and play hush-hush when one of their own goes off the rails.

#22 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-09-14 11:54 PM | Reply

show us on the doll where the atheist touched you, tor.

#23 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-09-15 02:19 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

What is an"athiest leader"? I don't think that is a thing.

#24 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2018-09-15 02:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"I don't think that is a thing."

It isn't.

Unless, like ol' Tor, you're frightened of atheists.

#25 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-09-15 08:21 PM | Reply

Indiana makes a disturbing point.

That's in sharp contrast to those who are making rape jokes.

#26 | Posted by Tor at 2018-09-16 01:21 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Indiana makes a disturbing point."


You're an idiot.

#27 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-09-16 08:02 PM | Reply

Wow someone's feelings are really hurt by someone else's having been accused of sexual assault.

Choose Your Heroes better.

#28 | Posted by Tor at 2018-09-16 09:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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