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Wednesday, September 12, 2018

STOCKHOLM (AFP) - The Tibetan spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, said Wednesday that "Europe belongs to the Europeans" and that refugees should return to their native countries to rebuild them. Speaking at a conference in Sweden's third-largest city of Malmo, home to a large immigrant population, the Dalai Lama -- who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1989 -- said Europe was "morally responsible" for helping "a refugee really facing danger against their life". "Receive them, help them, educate them... but ultimately they should develop their own country," said the 83-year-old Tibetan who fled the capital Lhasa in fear of his life after China poured troops into the region to crush an uprising.

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Hopefully, no one here will call the Dalai Lama a 'racist Nazi' over this.

#1 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-12 07:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

He's only telling the truth.

#2 | Posted by boaz at 2018-09-12 07:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#2 I'm glad he said it, because he's about the only fellow on the world stage that is immune from the fatuous name-calling when stating an uncomfortable truth.
I mean, I am pretty liberal, but I certainly recognize that unbridled immigration to Europe from cultures so fundamentally alien and averse to European culture(s) is a kind
of cultural genocide in and of itself.

#3 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-12 07:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I mean, I am pretty liberal, but I certainly recognize that unbridled immigration to Europe from cultures so fundamentally alien and averse to European culture(s) is a kind
of cultural genocide in and of itself.

POSTED BY KARABEKIAN AT 2018-09-12 07:56 PM | REPLY

Sounds like you hate what White Man did to North America. Double OOPSIE DAISY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#4 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-09-12 08:04 PM | Reply

#4 That ship sailed 472 years before I was born.

What's your angle? What are your realistic expectations about such massive influxes of immigration into Europe from countries that are fundamentally incompatible with European culture?

#5 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-12 08:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#4 Actually it was germs they weren't immune to. We kept our treaties and considered the "noble savages" to be friends until Andrew Jackson - the famous "Indian fighter" - came along and changed all that. Read some college level history books from before post modernism and historical revisionism.

Remember that historical revisionism is just opinion. Actual history books are mostly testimonials. That's why it's so easy to take down stuff like "The Real Lincoln" and "Arming America".

#6 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2018-09-12 08:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"fundamentally incompatible with European culture"

I actually have to agree with you here.

#7 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-09-12 08:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

--Sounds like you hate what White Man did to North America. Double OOPSIE DAISY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Classic whataboutism, a technique originating in the Soviet Union. Criticize Stalin and they would say "what about slavery?"

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#8 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-12 08:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

{Corky stamp}
The Dalai Lama is an alt-right nazi-coddling brown booted neoliberal Trump Humper who marches with Robert Spencer, watches Fox News, loves Steven Bannon, white supremacists and racists, a 1% crony capitalist KKK science denying obfuscator, who has no arguments, only caricature.
{stamp}

#9 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-09-12 08:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

that are fundamentally incompatible with European culture?

#5 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN AT 2018-09-12 08:10 PM | REPL

Citation needed.

#10 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-12 09:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

sorry, but radicalized fundamentalist islam is not compatible with european liberal culture.

#11 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-09-12 09:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

www.globalresearch.ca

The Kerry-Abdullah secret deal

On September 11, US Secretary of State Kerry met Saudi King Abdullah at his palace on the Red Sea. The King invited former head of Saudi intelligence, Prince Bandar to attend. There a deal was hammered out which saw Saudi support for the Syrian airstrikes against ISIS on condition Washington backed the Saudis in toppling Assad, a firm ally of Russia and de facto of Iran and an obstacle to Saudi and UAE plans to control the emerging EU natural gas market and destroy Russia's lucrative EU trade. A report in the Wall Street Journal noted there had been "months of behind-the-scenes work by the US and Arab leaders, who agreed on the need to cooperate against Islamic State, but not how or when. The process gave the Saudis leverage to extract a fresh US commitment to beef up training for rebels fighting Mr. Assad, whose demise the Saudis still see as a top priority." [3]

For the Saudis the war is between two competing age-old vectors of Islam. Saudi Arabia, home to the sacred cities of Mecca and Medina, claims de facto supremacy in the Islamic world of Sunni Islam. The Saudi Sunni form is ultra-conservative Wahhabism, named for an 18th Century Bedouin Islamic fundamentalist or Salafist named Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahha. The Taliban derive from Wahhabism with the aid of Saudi-financed religious instruction. The Gulf Emirates and Kuwait also adhere to the Sunni Wahhabism of the Saudis, as does the Emir of Qatar. Iran on the other hand historically is the heart of the smaller branch of Islam, the Shi'ite. Iraq's population is some 61% majority Shi'ite. Syria's President, Bashar al-Assad is a member of a satellite of the Shi'ite branch known as Alawite. Some 23% of Turkey is also Alawite Muslim. To complicate the picture more, across a bridge from Saudi Arabia sits the tiny island country, Bahrain where as many as 75% of the population is Shi'ite but the ruling Al-Khalifa family is Sunni and firmly tied to Saudi Arabia. Moreover, the richest Saudi oil region is dominated by Shi'ite Muslims who work the oil installations of Ras Tanura.

Now if we map the resources of known natural gas reserves in the entire Persian Gulf region, the motives of the Saudi-led Qatar and UAE in financing with billions of dollars the opposition to Assad, including the Sunni ISIS, becomes clearer. Natural gas has become the favored "clean energy" source for the 21st Century and the EU is the world's largest growth market for gas, a major reason Washington wants to break the Gazprom-EU supply dependency to weaken Russia and keep control over the EU via loyal proxies like Qatar.

The world's largest known natural gas reservoir sits in the middle of the Persian Gulf straddling part in the territorial waters of Qatar and part in Iran. The Iranian part is called North Pars. In 2006 China's state-owned CNOOC signed an agreement with Iran to develop North Pars and build LNG infrastructure to bring the gas to China.[4]

MY WORDS FOLLOW

Then you wonder why Europe should take in the refugees. They are benefiting from the destruction of the refugees homelands for access to natural resources.

#12 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-09-12 09:48 PM | Reply

#10 Here's something from the Washington Post that should offer some insight. This is just one issue that Western Liberals ought to consider, because it is of great interest to pretty much ALL of the liberals I know, and these examples are indicative of the general tenor of Islamic illiberalism in general. You can extrapolate from here (and do your own research; it's not clever for liberals to pretend that they are unaware that Islamic societies are generally intolerant to what liberals ought to hold dear: freedom of religion, freedom of sexual expression, freedom of secular intellectualism, - even freedom to drink whiskey, smoke herb, look at Penthouse, etc.). Watch a random episode of Bill Maher's show to understand what an intelligent liberal thinks about it.

www.washingtonpost.com

#13 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-12 09:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"these examples are indicative of the general tenor of Islamic illiberalism in general"

You should put that broad brush to work painting houses and leave it off this forum.

#14 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-12 10:12 PM | Reply

sorry, but radicalized fundamentalist islam is not compatible with european liberal culture.

#11 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2018-09-12 09:36 PM | FLAG:

Says who?

And even if that's true, so what? You don't actually contend that all refugees from Muslim countries subscribe to such a belief system.

#15 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-12 10:17 PM | Reply

meanwhile millions of gallons of water sits on a runway in Puerto Rico intentionally forgotten....so many it could quench all of the lamas on that hurricane stricken island......FACT!

www.cbsnews.com

Puerto rico...sauve

#16 | Posted by mutant at 2018-09-12 10:19 PM | Reply

The Dalai Lama is wrong. Sad that nationalism is just as often a recourse for the oppressed trying to survive as for the oppressor trying to dominate. It is not hard to figure out why he would say something like this.

#17 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-12 10:24 PM | Reply

#14

You asked for an example; I gave you one. It isn't broadbrushing to suggest that fundamentalists who abhor one important aspect of secular liberalism won't be amenable to others. If it doesn't comport to your fantasist world view, that's your problem. To suggest you have any grounds to keep classical liberal thought off this forum is arrogant nonsense.

#18 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-12 10:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#17 To suggest you have higher moral standing on ANY issue than the Dalai Lama is indicative of a profoundly delusional mind.

#19 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-12 10:28 PM | Reply

"Remember that historical revisionism is just opinion. Actual history books are mostly testimonials."

The dead don't testify.
Their murderers do.
And you call it "history."

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-12 10:29 PM | Reply

#3

A liberal claiming "white genocide?" No. No chance. You are an alt-right concern troll. Go back to whatever 4chan hell spawned you.

#21 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-12 10:31 PM | Reply

17 To suggest you have higher moral standing on ANY issue than the Dalai Lama is indicative of a profoundly delusional mind.

#19 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN AT 2018-09-12 10:28 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Argument from authority and dubious authority at that. Try again, this time without the fallacy.

#22 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-12 10:32 PM | Reply

"It isn't broadbrushing to suggest that fundamentalists"

Whoops! There's that broad brush again.

"who abhor one important aspect of secular liberalism won't be amenable to others."

Sure it is. Slippery slope fallacy. Care to try again?

#23 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-12 10:34 PM | Reply

#21 You're a liar, as well. I never said " ‘white genocide.' " I said "cultural genocide."

And you clearly don't understand what classical liberalism is. You are a fantasist.

#24 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-12 11:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"classical liberalism" is the new right wing name for "libertarian" also previously known as "republican that spent a night in jail" and "republican that gets high"

#25 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-09-12 11:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--"classical liberalism" is the new right wing name for "libertarian" also previously known as "republican that spent a night in jail" and "republican that gets high"

Nonsense. The Founding Fathers were classical liberals.

#26 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-12 11:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Alex & Null:

I guess I would consider Bill Maher a modern classical liberal - a liberal who's no-nonsense about suicidal liberal fantasies that have no basis in the realities of human nature, sociology, psychology, etc.

#27 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-12 11:41 PM | Reply

Nonsense. The Founding Fathers were classical liberals.

#26 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-09-12 11:30 PM | FLAG:

So rightists like you like to claim. Not that it matters.

#28 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-12 11:43 PM | Reply

"#21 You're a liar, as well. I never said " ‘white genocide.' " I said "cultural genocide.""

Classic racist move: switch to "culture" language. I see it all the time, you Stormfront stooge.

#29 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-12 11:44 PM | Reply

"And you clearly don't understand what classical liberalism is."

Is it bigotry against Muslims? Because that's what I've been hearing out of you.

#30 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-12 11:47 PM | Reply

#29 Doubling down on a blatant lie.
Or are you really so intellectually and morally vacuous that you cannot make a distinction between race and culture?

#31 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-12 11:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#30 If it makes you feel any better, I don't think European countries should take in millions of refugees who are adherents of the Westbrook Baptist Church - except that there aren't any, which is kind of the point.

#32 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 12:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Doubling down on a blatant lie.
Or are you really so intellectually and morally vacuous that you cannot make a distinction between race and culture?

#31 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN AT 2018-09-12 11:55 PM | FLAG:

I just see through your skinhead code. Alas for you, bigotry is bigotry, and you have outed yourself.

#33 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 12:57 AM | Reply

#32

MORE broadbrushing! You just. Can't. help yourself!

#34 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 12:59 AM | Reply

#33 The last refuge of a desperate, disreputable, illogical, sanctimonious dimwit with no coherent thoughts or point: accuse your intellectual betters of being Nazis,fascists, skinheads, etc. Usually, I'm accused of being a commie by the terminally wrong, so at least there's that mild surprise.

#35 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 01:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#12 Lauramohr - Sorry, I got sidetracked....but to your point: I don't argue that imperialism and rogue capitalism haven't created the seemingly intractable mess in the Middle East and North Africa that has driven the migrant crisis in Europe. I just believe that a substantial number of migrants from these places are so culturally alien to western liberal thought that assimilation of vast numbers of them is an impossibility. Small numbers? Okay. My question is: Why don't wealthy Arab states take them in greater numbers -AND assimilate them properly into those cultures that most accurately reflect their cultures of origin. And I mean REALLY assimilate them, rather than keeping them in refugee camps along remote frontier regions.
And please don't think European governments that take in these refugees do so out of altruistic impulse; they think they need them to replace an aging population for which native birth rates are below replacement levels.
So if the argument is that Old Imperial Powers are getting some kind of karmic comeuppance, maybe so, but Sweden was never much of a colonial or imperial power, so I'm not sure their impending cultural suicide is warranted on karmic grounds.

#36 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 01:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

33 The last refuge of a desperate, disreputable, illogical, sanctimonious dimwit with no coherent thoughts or point: accuse your intellectual betters of being Nazis,fascists, skinheads, etc.

#35 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN AT 2018-09-13 01:28 AM | FLAG:

You've confessed to bigotry already, Sherlock. The label fits you like a glove. "Cultural genocide" indeed...

#37 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 02:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"their impending cultural suicide"

More Stormfront language. Disgusting.

"assimilate them properly into those cultures that most accurately reflect their cultures of origin."

Segregation forever, eh "liberal?"

#38 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 02:12 AM | Reply

#38 Shhhh...Go to bed now and let the grownups talk.

#39 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 02:15 AM | Reply

#39

Don't like getting called out, I know. You'll get over it, and maybe learn a little tolerance. Hope springs eternal.

#40 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 02:19 AM | Reply

#40 Nah, you're just a sanctimonious, one-note bore, completely bereft of the intellectual capacity for substantive debate. You will not address the question at hand, which Lauramohr addresses in a thoughtful manner, and I acknowledge many of her points as valid.

What do you think will be the long-term consequences of continued mass migration to Europe of people who have nothing in common with European culture - not politically, not socially, not religiously, not linguistically?

You will not answer this question because the answer you want to be correct so badly doesn't comport with reality, so you offer fatuous platitudes and ludicrous insults instead. It may make you feel morally superior at your drum circle meetings and hacky sack tournaments, but working, thinking Small-L liberals have better things to do besides powder the bottoms of their special ed cousins on political forums.

#41 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 02:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Nah, you're just a sanctimonious, one-note bore, completely bereft of the intellectual capacity for substantive debate."

A hilarious degree of projection. You make the claim that refugees pose some sort of existential threat to European culture because of their incompatible beliefs/culture. You don't actually explain this point at all (how are they beliefs/culture incompatible) and you broadbrush to an absurd degree, treating diverse populations as monolithic. You use the bigoted language of far right nationalism ("cultural genocide" or "cultural suicide") and argue for actual "like with like" segregation, again with no more justification than your vague pronouncements of doom.

You absurdly couch all of this in a "classical liberalism" you can't actually define but whose sole exemplar, as far as you've expressed, is a shock jockey cable television comedian known for raging Islamophobia. You mention not at all that liberalism by virtually any meaningful definition includes a notion of pluralism antithetical to your demonstrable bigotry towards other cultural and religious groups.

And now, having had all of these deficits humiliatingly exposed, you try to shift the burden, rather than engage in anything like a defense of your own position. And don't even get me started on the fallacy hit-parade you treated me to with your first 4 or 5 posts.

But by all mean, 4chan, tell us more about the standards of rational debate.

Oh, and your ableist slur is noted and flagged offensive.

#42 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 03:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#42 | Posted by DirkStruan

You've never read H.P Lovecraft? He was the Prophet of the Aeon. You could learn something.

What you saying about foreign cultures just doesn't make any sense.

I'm starting to think you are down to 0 SAN, like all cultists. :(

#43 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2018-09-13 03:27 AM | Reply

*you are.

Sigh. Another flower on the grave.

#44 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2018-09-13 03:29 AM | Reply

#42 You find the term "special ed" offensive, but not "Nazi", "skinhead", "Storm Front", or any of the other infantile insults you've slung at me all night long?! HA HA HA! I promise, I won't flag you for it, you precious little dickens!

And you still won't answer the question.

#45 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 03:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#43 Helium - What does 0 SAN mean?
And don't tell junior I asked, but what is 4chan? I assume it's some kind of nazi reference, but I'm afraid to google it. Is it like twitter for Nazis, or some lame nonsense?

#46 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 03:39 AM | Reply

0 sanity points. I used to "play Call of Cthulhu".

And 4chan is a really popular social media site with millions of users. I've only visited it a few times, and it was hard to get an impression of it, because it had so many people. I heard it has only on person ever, but that may just be 4chan legend or something.

I like the small walled gardens.

#47 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2018-09-13 03:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

*only banned one person ever

Another flower tomorrow.

#48 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2018-09-13 03:58 AM | Reply

#48 Thanks!

#49 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 04:19 AM | Reply

-- Oh, and your ableist slur is noted and flagged offensive.

#42 | Posted by DirkStruan

Hilarious. This guy goes on a bing of belligerent ad hominem--Nazi/stormfront/bigot, etc. and then flags someone else for being "offensive".

#50 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-13 09:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

And you still won't answer the question.

#45 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN AT 2018-09-13 03:34 AM | FLAG:

Still trying to shift the burden rather than defend your position, huh? Sad.

#51 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 10:17 AM | Reply

Hilarious. This guy goes on a bing of belligerent ad hominem--Nazi/stormfront/bigot, etc. and then flags someone else for being "offensive".

#50 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-09-13 09:10 AM | FLAG:

The guy is using Stormfront language. I've pointed out where.

Now he's used a slur.

#52 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 10:18 AM | Reply

--The guy is using Stormfront language. I've pointed out where.

Now he's used a slur."

Self-retorting retort. Your lack of self-awareness is stunning, hypocrite.

#53 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-13 10:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#52 I've told you what I believe; I've provided you with explicit reasoning; I've provided a citation you've asked for. I haven't shifted the burden of proof to you; I'm not asking anybody to PROOVE anything; I've asked you what you THINK - your opinion. You are too cowardly to respond to the question directly and unambiguously. If you think the answer to the question at hand is that mass migration to Europe will turn out well in the long run, why not say so? If you think Europe is reaping what its colonial/imperial antecedents have sown, why not say so? If it's something else, why not say so? I would at least respect you for having the cobbles to take an unambiguous position. But you just worm your way through a thread, calling people who don't toe your party line Nazis and all of that nonsense, without ever putting yourself on the line with an actual coherent thought on the topic at hand. You've lied about what I've said and have been called out for it. You fancy yourself the language police here, terming the phrase "cultural suicide" Storm Front language. That is an infantile attempt to limit the legitimate lexicon of debate to shamelessly hobble those over whom you have no intellectual standing - and in a libelous fashion, I might add. Nobody else here has been afraid to give an actual opinion - left, right, or center. Why are you here? You obviously only want to stifle debate, not participate in it. This is a debate forum. As to the propriety of my insult, anybody can look through my history here and see that I am scrupulously polite, regardless of whomever it is I am responding to, running the ideological spectrum from Danni to Boaz. I probably agree a lot more with Danni than Boaz (although I suspect not with regard to this topic), but neither of them is a jelly-spined slanderer. I respect them both for having the courage of their convictions. I don't respect you because you haven't earned it. Instead, you've only earned my contempt and first insult. Congrats.

#54 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 11:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Self-retorting retort. Your lack of self-awareness is stunning, hypocrite.

#53 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-09-13 10:21 AM | FLAG:

I've used Stormfront language and slurs? Citation needed.

#55 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 11:14 AM | Reply

"I've told you what I believe; I've provided you with explicit reasoning;"

Nope. You've made vague pronouncements of doom and broadbrushed.

"I've provided a citation you've asked for."

Broadbrushing, as I've explained.

"I haven't shifted the burden of proof to you; I'm not asking anybody to PROOVE anything"

Sure you have. You made an assertion and failed to defend it, then, when called out, demand that I prove the opposite.

"You've lied about what I've said and have been called out for it."

Nope. We can all read your posts. You say Muslims should migrate to Muslim countries (like with like segregation). You've used the language of bigotry and exclusion.

"You fancy yourself the language police here, terming the phrase "cultural suicide" Storm Front language. That is an infantile attempt to limit the legitimate lexicon of debate to shamelessly hobble those over whom you have no intellectual standing - and in a libelous fashion, I might add."

You are using the favored language of the Nazis and the Klan, the same language used to oppress, isolate, and exterminate people again and again. That is the choice you made. There is no use whining about being called out on it.

#56 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 11:25 AM | Reply

--I've used Stormfront language and slurs? Citation needed.

You slur people as "Nazis" everyday, on every thread, on every topic. You're the DR left's crazy aunt in the attic.

#57 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-13 11:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As it should be.

#58 | Posted by fresno500 at 2018-09-13 11:31 AM | Reply

Let's take another look at your language, "liberal":

"assimilate them properly into those cultures that most accurately reflect their cultures of origin."

Wow. This might be as good a summary of the rationale for ethnic cleansing as I have ever seen. Basically saying "they aren't like us, they don't belong here." Do you tell blacks to "go back to Africa?" Because you really do sound like you might go around doing that.

#59 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 11:33 AM | Reply

"You slur people as "Nazis" everyday, on every thread, on every topic."

You defend Nazis constantly, as do some other posters here. Others advocate Nazi policies or use Nazi language. So, I call them out.

Holding people to account in this way is hardly the same as using "------" as a taunt. But then, false equivalence is kind of your thing ("Antifa are the Real Nazis!!1").

#60 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 11:36 AM | Reply

--This might be as good a summary of the rationale for ethnic cleansing

Horsecrap. The appropriate countries for these people to go to are countries that share their religion, culture and language, not Western liberal, secular democracies which you hate and want to destroy with mass migration.

#61 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-13 11:41 AM | Reply

"The appropriate countries for these people to go to are countries that share their religion, culture and language,"

Wow! Another great example of the language of ethnic cleansing! Society must be purged of undesirables, eh Nulli?

#62 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 11:42 AM | Reply

#56 "You say Muslims should migrate to Muslim countries (like with like segregation)." Liar. I asked why wealthy Arab/Muslim states don't take in refugees in a meaningful sense - that is, why they don't assimilate them properly, rather than keeping them in remote refugee camps in perpetuity. If you don't think that chances of integrating refugees from the Middle East and North Africa into more stable Middle Eastern and North African societies is much more likely to be successful than integrating them into Swedish society, then I stand by my assessment of your intelligence as apropos.

The one thing you get right is that anyone here can read my posts from top to bottom on this thread, but they can read YOURS, too. It's easy enough to determine who the liar is.

Here's the umpteenth chance to answer the question: In your OPINION, what do you think the consequences of unbridled migration from the Middle East and North Africa to Europe will be? No PROOF needed (it's impossible; it's a prediction of the future). No CITATION needed, either.

#63 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 11:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nothing says "classical liberal" like intolerance of immigrants and minorities! Straight out of John Locke (google quickly, Dulli!), to be sure.

#64 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 11:45 AM | Reply

--Straight out of John Locke (google quickly, Dulli!), to be sure.

I read John Locke when you were in shortpants, junior.

#65 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-13 11:47 AM | Reply

Really? You were just talking about refugee policy in those states?

Then why include this:

"assimilate them PROPERLY into those cultures that most ACCURATELY REFLECT their cultures of origin."

Looks like you are the liar.

And oh look, you even double down on your bigotry:

"If you don't think that chances of integrating refugees from the Middle East and North Africa into more stable Middle Eastern and North African societies is much more likely to be successful than integrating them into Swedish society"

There you go again, bigot.

#66 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 11:49 AM | Reply

I read John Locke when you were in shortpants, junior.

#65 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-09-13 11:47 AM | FLAG:

Did you read the Stormfront annotated version? The one with all the intolerance?

#67 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 11:50 AM | Reply

--There you go again, bigot.

Nothing bigoted about that, short pants.

#68 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-13 11:51 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

--Did you read the Stormfront

There you go again, screeching "Nazi". It's the only tool in your tiny tool shed, tool.

#69 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-13 11:53 AM | Reply

Nothing bigoted about that, short pants.

#68 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-09-13 11:51 AM | FLAG:

Nothing bigoted about telling refugees to "stay with their own kind." Straight out of Locke, I'm sure.

#70 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 11:55 AM | Reply

"Refugees will dilute and destroy Western culture and should be kept out.... they should migrate to other countries with cultures and languages more like their own"

.....said no liberal ever.

Who do you people think you are fooling?

#71 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 11:56 AM | Reply

#60 Another lie! I didn't call you "------," because RCADE usually disallows it. I called you "special ed," which covers all sorts of pathologies - many of which you demonstrate on this thread.

Well, I'm off to work. See you in about 9 hours.

#72 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 11:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I called you "special ed," which covers all sorts of pathologies -"

Still an ableist slur.

And flagged once again for doubling down, bigot.

#73 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 12:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

--Well, I'm off to work. See you in about 9 hours.

Blogging *is* work for Marxists. Can't get employed doing productive labor. The "revolution" is a full time job.

#74 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-13 12:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"...secular democracies which you hate and want to destroy with mass migration." - #61 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-13 11:41 AM

That's the thing about this secular democracy we call America: It was created by mass migration... from countries all over the world.

#75 | Posted by Hans at 2018-09-13 12:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--It was created by mass migration... from countries all over the world.

Mostly europeans who shared the same religion, and rapidly assimilated into the melting pot and accepted secularism.

#76 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-13 12:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#74

The internet captain of industry speaks!

#77 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 12:08 PM | Reply

Mostly europeans who shared the same religion, and rapidly assimilated into the melting pot and accepted secularism.

#76 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-09-13 12:07 PM | FLAG:

Laughably wrong.

Americans are still way more religious than Europeans, there are and have always been plenty of non-European minorities in the US and, of course, the arguments that you fascists are using now? Yeah, they were used against the Irish and Italians and Jews and Eastern Europeans and on and on and on. Nothing new about them except the target.

#78 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 12:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hey Nulli, you claim to be a Buddhist. You live in a country founded by Christians. You better be careful, lest one of your fellow "liberals" decides that your cultural beliefs are incomparable with those of your chosen country. Can't risk "cultural genocide!"

#79 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 12:17 PM | Reply

Muslim migration has been the biggest political gift to the far right in Europe in the last 70 years.

#80 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-09-13 12:41 PM | Reply

Muslim migration has been the biggest political gift to the far right in Europe in the last 70 years.

#80 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG AT 2018-09-13 12:41 PM | FLAG:

Like immigration in general for American rightists. Xenophobia still plays with some people.

#81 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 12:52 PM | Reply

Let's hear from a real "classical liberal," shall we?

"Nay, if we may openly speak the truth, and as becomes one man to another, neither Pagan nor Mahometan, nor Jew, ought to be excluded from the civil rights of the commonwealth because of his religion."

-John Locke
"A letter concerning Toleration"

#82 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 01:07 PM | Reply

#81 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN AT 2018-09-13 12:52 PM | REPLY

No. Assimilation is strong here. Neo-nazis can barely get a crowd together of 200 people.

In Europe, they are gaining government seats left & right. Muslim immigration is a massive gift to them.

#83 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-09-13 01:14 PM | Reply

"No. Assimilation is strong here. Neo-nazis can barely get a crowd together of 200 people."

Liar. They are stronger than ever.

Even apart from that, the party in power is violently anti-immigrant.

"In Europe, they are gaining government seats left & right. Muslim immigration is a massive gift to them."

Always a Muslim to blame, eh Sitzbath?

#84 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 01:17 PM | Reply

"The Jewish presence as a visible minority within Europe was a huge gift to the far right in the 1930s."

-Sitzbath

#85 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 01:20 PM | Reply

-Neo-nazis can barely get a crowd together of 200 people.

Chamberlainkrieg prevaricates yet again.

StormFront has 300,000 Registered users, not to mention a lot more unregistered users.

Ignoring the facts is no way to make them go away.

#86 | Posted by Corky at 2018-09-13 01:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Visible gay pride parades are a huge gift to homophobic groups and politicians."

-Sitzbath

#87 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 01:31 PM | Reply

"--It was created by mass migration... from countries all over the world.

Mostly europeans who shared the same religion, and rapidly assimilated into the melting pot and accepted secularism"

^
The GOP hasn't embraced secularism, they've embraced religious fanaticism and white nationalism.

Last election Ann Counter was sad that people who don't have all four grandparents born here are allowed to vote.

#88 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-13 01:51 PM | Reply

"Neo-nazis can barely get a crowd together of 200 people.

In Europe, they are gaining government seats left & right. Muslim immigration is a massive gift to them."

^
Haven't the Republicans gained like 1,000 seats since Obama won in 2008?

The Florida GOP governor nominee is a white nationalist, for example.

#89 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-13 01:53 PM | Reply

Always a Muslim to blame, eh Sitzbath?

#84 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN AT 2018-09-13 01:17 PM | REPLY

If I were a Muslim I'd flee their -------- countries too.

The rise of the right in Europe ties directly into it though, there's no avoiding that no matter how bad it makes people feel.

#90 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-09-13 02:16 PM | Reply

"If I were a Muslim I'd flee their -------- countries too."

Spoken like a true deplorable.

"The rise of the right in Europe ties directly into it though, there's no avoiding that no matter how bad it makes people feel."

And the rise of the Klan in the 50s and 60s was tied to civil rights. What's your point?

#91 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 02:20 PM | Reply

What's your point?
#91 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN AT 2018-09-13 02:20 PM | REPLY

Enjoy your Nazis in power. Moderate liberalism was cool while it lasted.

#92 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-09-13 02:30 PM | Reply

Enjoy your Nazis in power. Moderate liberalism was cool while it lasted.

#92 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG AT 2018-09-13 02:30 PM | FLAG:

Ah, so no point. Got it. Thanks for stopping by to say nothing to no one. Don't let the door hit you on your way out.

#93 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 02:33 PM | Reply

"Enjoy your Nazis in power. Moderate liberalism was cool while it lasted."

-Sitzbath to the Jews, Berlin, 1930

#94 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 02:35 PM | Reply

"The rise of the right in Europe ties directly into it though, there's no avoiding that no matter how bad it makes people feel."

It propelled the rise of the right here too.
Haters gonna hate.
Right-wing beliefs are a study in fear and resentment.

#95 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-13 02:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is hilarious. The people that think they're liberal are happy to cede power to Nazis.

Good luck with that.

#96 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-09-13 02:44 PM | Reply

"This is hilarious. The people that think they're liberal are happy to cede power to Nazis."

Citation needed.

#97 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 02:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Enjoy homophobes in power! Your presence is a political gift to them!"

-Sitzbath to gay rights activists

#98 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 02:47 PM | Reply

"The people that think they're liberal are happy to cede power to Nazis."

Hmmm.
Is classical liberalism is incompatible with Nazism?

#99 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-13 02:47 PM | Reply

#99 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2018-09-13 02:47 PM | REPLY

Game theory politics.

What do you compromise on to keep Nazi power minimized? Right now liberalism is losing ground, fast.

#100 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-09-13 03:06 PM | Reply

"What do you compromise on to keep Nazi power minimized?"

Tax cuts for the rich.

What's your answer?

#101 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-13 03:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

" Right now liberalism is losing ground, fast."

Sure is.
Can you do a "Follow the money" on that one for me?
Thanks.

#102 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-13 03:09 PM | Reply

So no answer, no compromise, just sit back and lose.

Holy ---- you're almost a Libertarian.

#103 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-09-13 03:26 PM | Reply

"So no answer, no compromise, just sit back and lose."

While your compromise is to just give the fact right what they want: no refugees? Not sure "compromise" is the word for that.

#104 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 03:35 PM | Reply

#103 - Sitz, what do you mean by "compromise"? Is it a bone thrown to the Right to placate them into preserving an otherwise liberal status quo? I'm genuinely interested in what you would propose, especially in regard to the European question that was the original impetus for this thread. Thanks!

#105 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 03:35 PM | Reply

My response to all of Dirtstain's posts:

youtu.be

#106 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 04:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

#106

Great clip.

Still no defense of your position, I see. How sad.

#107 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 04:37 PM | Reply

#107 Still lying with the audacity of a Stalinist propagandist, I see. How Sad.
How Creepy.
How Dumb.

#108 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 04:41 PM | Reply

"So no answer, no compromise, just sit back and lose."

Sitz, how is that different from your answer?

#109 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-13 04:43 PM | Reply

--My response to all of Dirtstain's posts:

youtu.be

Funny and accurate. You could waste a day of your life responding to his always-growing mountains of manure.

#110 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-13 04:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Still lying with the audacity of a Stalinist propagandist, I see. How Sad.
How Creepy.
How Dumb.

#108 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN AT 2018-09-13 04:41 PM | FLAG:

Oh yeah? Let's review:

You claim letting refugees in poses an existential threat to European culture. No proof of this or even an explanation of it.

You claim the culture of the refugees is incompatible with European culture. Again, no proof, no argument.

Implicit in the above claim is the claim that the cultures at issue are monolithic. Again, no proof, no argument.

You use the language of bigotry (fear mongering about "cultural genocide" and "cultural suicide"). You argue that refugees should be absorbed into countries with similar cultures (like with like segregation). I point out to you that this is the language of bigots throughout history. Your response? A tantrum, bizarre claims to be a classical liberal (a term you obviously don't even understand).

Did I leave anything out? Besides all your fallacies nd broadbrushing, and general failures as a debater? Looks to me like you are the liar.

#111 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 04:51 PM | Reply

Here's why getting rid of tax cuts for the rich is a good way to fight Nazis.

Fascism is characterized by business and government working hand in glove.

The more money that gets redistribured to the already wealthy, the more they use their First Amendment rights to spend money on political outcomes to build a government that serves corporate and national welfare, not the individual.

Heck, part of your mythology is that government shouldn't be helping people, they should pick themselves up by their own bootstraps. This makes libertarians easy marks for nationalists. Just blame your lack of bootstraps on the immigrants who stole your boots.

#112 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-13 04:52 PM | Reply

Funny and accurate. You could waste a day of your life responding to his always-growing mountains of manure.

#110 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-09-13 04:44 PM | REPLY | FLAG

I mean, you couldn't. You can't respond at all. You can just sit helplessly, whining, as I refute your clumsy, fallacy riddled, unsupported points one by one. "Classical liberal" indeed.

#113 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 04:54 PM | Reply

#111 вы никого не обманываете, товарищ

#114 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 05:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#114

Outraged by his repeated humiliations on this thread, Karabeans has reverted to his native Russian. Hilarious.

#115 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 05:07 PM | Reply

Hey Karabeans: your old hippy pals? They'd spit on you to see the illiberal bigot you've grown into. Be ashamed.

#116 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 05:09 PM | Reply

#116 Young man (I assume), I was literally once a card-carrying member of the Socialist Party; I've caucused with the Peace & Freedom Party In a bygone era. You've got nothing to teach me, little fella. You are a know-nothing, self-righteous snoozer - like one of those long-winded Ayn Rand novels. You are also a creepy stalker on other threads and a Stalinesque propagandist. Your style screams of someone flipping through the pages of a Stalinist handbook to see how he should respond to being eaten alive.

Don't commit to an opinion about the topic of the thread, comrad, at all costs! Vilify those who don't toe the party line at all costs, comrad. Lie if you have to, and repeat the lies, comrad. As long as you get the last word, comrad, you win! Stalk if you must, comrad! Stifle debate about complex matters, comrad!

You are a laughless joke, comrad.

#117 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 05:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#117

Still no defense of your points, huh Stormfront? Doesn't look good for you.

#118 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 06:07 PM | Reply

--Stalinist handbook

I had this edition in my Maoist youth.

www.stalinsociety.org

#119 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-13 06:14 PM | Reply

#119

Sure you did, alleged scholar.

#120 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 06:18 PM | Reply

#118 Atta boy, comrad! Points one thru six, right on schedule!

#119 From whence I came.

#121 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 06:18 PM | Reply

"118 Atta boy, comrad! Points one thru six, right on schedule!"

Because asking people to support their arguments and calling them out for bigotry is COMMUNISM. Yeah, real convincing, slick.

#122 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 06:27 PM | Reply

#Excellent, comrad! The Chairman is pleased! Ha-Ha!!!!

#123 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 06:51 PM | Reply

Still no answer to post #111, huh? Pathetic. And you have the gall to lecture others on debate conduct.

#124 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 06:55 PM | Reply

#124 I did already explained my position in spades, comrad! Posts 1 thru now. And I posted this thread! You STILL haven't answered the question I've asked since around the time you first called me a Nazi. You are a coward and a dullard. Oh, and a Quasi-Stalinist stooge and propagandist. You can't fool me, comrad; I was familiar with your playbook since before you were born!!

#125 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 07:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I did already explained my position in spades, comrad! Posts 1 thru now."

No, you really didn't. If you did, by all means, direct me to the specific posts and passages. You won't be able to, of course: I've read them all. You do nothing to support your points and now you have resorted to calling me a Stalinist for even asking. Hilarious.

#126 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 07:07 PM | Reply

"You STILL haven't answered the question"

Shifting
The
Burden.

Part III

Revenge of the Fallacy

#127 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 07:09 PM | Reply

126-7

славный пропагандист!!!

#128 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 07:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Fellas, sorry about my verb tense issues and poor Russian: I got off work early; I'm on my 14tth beer; I've smoked a little herb. Yet I am still trouncing the Stalinist propagandist and my new stalker, Dirtstain. He is re-, er...."special." Don't vilify him; pity him. He is a little anxious about the hacky sack tournament this weekend. Plus, the elbow patch on his tweed jacket is coming loose, and he doesn't know how to use an iron. He'll also be up all night waiting to get the last word in on this thread before RCADE mercifully shuts it down. Peace. Karabekian.

#129 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 07:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

129

You haven't defended even one of your points, but you are "trouncing" me? You have a pretty strange conception of how debate works, slick.

#130 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 07:48 PM | Reply

#130 Sure I did. The Stalinist Handbook just demands that you continue to lie about it. Posts 1 thru now, comrad. Even nearly incapacitated, I can handle a cheap, lying nit-wit Stalinist propagandist like you. But I DO pity you; you are sad, dim-witted, and transparent. In a word: a stooge. It's really not debatable. Good night, comrad.

#131 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 07:56 PM | Reply

Crossfaded and stupid is no way to go through life Stormfront Kara. Here's hoping you find a better path.

#132 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 07:58 PM | Reply

"Sure I did."

Citation needed. Or it never happened.

#133 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 07:59 PM | Reply

#133 It's not like you have to comb through my master's thesis, comrad: it's all above this post starting with #1. Do your own research.

#134 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 08:01 PM | Reply

#134

As predicted, you can't answer. I've read all your posts and there is nothing there.

#135 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 08:03 PM | Reply

What could I expect from the fool who holds up a comedian as a political theorist. What complete stupidity.

#136 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 08:04 PM | Reply

#136

Hey, look everybody! Comrad thinks Bill Maher is a racist!!

HA HA HA!

#137 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 08:06 PM | Reply

#137

Look who failed reading comprehension!

#138 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 08:11 PM | Reply

What classical liberal prefers a comedian to John Locke? Answer: a fake one.

#139 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 08:12 PM | Reply

"Comrad thinks..." - #137 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 08:06 PM

Comrad?

Wasn't that the guy who played James West in that 1960s "Western"?

#140 | Posted by Hans at 2018-09-13 08:13 PM | Reply

#139 Convince your friends at the local junior college, comrad, not me.

#141 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 08:16 PM | Reply

139 Convince your friends at the local junior college, comrad, not me.

#141 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN AT 2018-09-13 08:16 PM | FLAG:

No response, per usual, eh Stormfront? They should have trained you better.

#142 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 08:22 PM | Reply

#141 By definition, that WAS my response, comrade. You know, dictionaries are free in the internet, comrade.

#143 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 08:35 PM | Reply

141 By definition, that WAS my response, comrade.

Just not a very responsive one. That's alright. I know you can't defend your points (if your fear mongering vagueries can be called such). You were always going to fold like a house of cards under the weight of even the most basic expectations of intellectual honesty and rigour. You just wanted this thread to be a nice, cozy echo chamber in which to vent about white genocide errr "cultural genocide" at the hands of the scary brown people. And here I had to come along and rain on your tiki torch parade. What a pity!

#144 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 08:40 PM | Reply

#140 Yeah, I know. I dropped the e and spell-check didn't catch it. You try combating vacuous Stalinists on fourteen beers and a couple of bowls. I realize Dirtstain is a big fat dumb fish in a five gallon bucket, but doing this on a phone is rough, especially when you have the thumbs of Tor Johnson.

#145 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 08:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Speaking of free things on the internet, does this look familiar KEKabee?

en.m.wikipedia.org

#146 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 08:44 PM | Reply

#145

Hey Stupid, is it my insistence that you support your points that makes me a Stalinist? Or the fact that I confront you at all perhaps? Be as specific as the toxic chemical sludge bubbling between your ears allows.

#147 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 08:46 PM | Reply

#147 You're a Stalinist propagandist and stooge implementing points 1 thru 6 in the Handbook. I've answered all of your questions. You haven't answered one of mine (in fact, the only question I've asked you):

In your OPINION, what do you project will be the net effect of unbridled immigration to Europe by refugees from the Middle East and North Africa?

You are a craven little Stalinist stooge and whatever RCADE will let pass for "-----" for refusing to answer up to post 148 now.

Everyone has your number, comrade. "Dirk Struan." Look it up, people. This Stalinist has delusions of grandeur like nobody's business.

AND he thinks he stalks the moral high ground above the Dalai Lama! What a tool!

What a sad coward.

#148 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 09:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"...dictionaries are free in the internet, comrade." - #143 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 08:35 PM

From "comrad" and "comrad" and "comrad", to finally the correct "comrade".

And they said evolution was impossible.

That goodness for the free dictionary on the Internet.

#149 | Posted by Hans at 2018-09-13 09:04 PM | Reply

#149. Mea culpa, Hans. Mea culpa. And cheers!

#150 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 09:10 PM | Reply

"You try combating vacuous Stalinists on fourteen beers and a couple of bowls. ... but doing this on a phone is rough, especially when you have the thumbs of Tor Johnson." - #145 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 08:42 PM

Probably not much you can do about having "the thumbs of Tor Johnson."

But, perhaps you shouldn't be attempting to retort on a phone when you have "the thumbs of Tor Johnson.".

Especially when you've had "fourteen beers and a couple of bowls.".

Sleep it off, then come back when you're on a keyboard compatible with someone who has "the thumbs of Tor Johnson.".

Perhaps no mea culpa would then be required.

Just a friendly suggestion.

Oh, and "cheers" to you as well.

#151 | Posted by Hans at 2018-09-13 09:54 PM | Reply

#151 Hans, you are a gentleman.

#152 | Posted by Karabekian at 2018-09-13 09:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"I've answered all of your questions."

Show me where.

#153 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 10:03 PM | Reply

"AND he thinks he stalks the moral high ground above the Dalai Lama! What a tool!"

Argument from (dubious) authority. Again. You just can't help it with the fallacies, can you?

The sad part is that this whole thread was explicitly an argument from authority: you posted it thinking no one would question your bigoted viewpoints if they found them voiced by a respected religious figure. When it turned out you were mistaken, you folded like a house of cards.

#154 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-09-13 10:09 PM | Reply

"... said Europe was "morally responsible" for helping "a refugee really facing danger against their life". "Receive them, help them, educate them... but ultimately they should develop their own country,"

He's obviously talking about immediate reactions and ideal eventualities.

Of course, the first part isn't of interest to some master's theses, the last part, however, appears to make them all hard in the pants.

Which then attracts the xenophobes like Xenofidian and RoCheney.

#155 | Posted by Corky at 2018-09-13 10:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Looks like Dorky is trying to get the last post, yet again, after watching his boy toy get wrecked by someone with the thumbs of Tor Johnson.

Sad.

#156 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-09-14 01:19 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

#156

A supposed lawyer who only has lame caricatures, never any argument, is prime for Shakespeare's Solution.

#157 | Posted by Corky at 2018-09-14 11:09 AM | Reply

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