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Wednesday, September 12, 2018

In 2012, North Carolina legislators passed a bill that barred policymakers and developers from using up-to-date climate science to plan for rising sea levels on the state's coast. Now Hurricane Florence threatens to cause a devastating storm surge that could put thousands of lives in danger and cost the state billions of dollars worth of damage. And the rise in sea levels, experts say, is making the storm surge worse. Sea level rise is a direct consequence of global warming; the warming of the ocean has resulted in thermal expansion and melted ice sheets and glaciers that are causing the oceans to rise. Since 1950, the sea level has risen 6.5 inches ― a number that sounds small but has actually had major consequences across the country.

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This is what happens when we let Republicans ignore science.

But don't worry. We will bail them out because they aren't Puerto Rico after all.

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Yup. Looks like that God Fella is about to teach again.

Trump and his Deplorables obviously won't get it but maybe when they see the bill just a few more rethuglicans will get the message time.

If they don't get drowned.

#1 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-09-12 10:51 PM | Reply

They craved liberal tears and now they're going to drowned in their own ignorance and arrogance.

#2 | Posted by Tor at 2018-09-12 11:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"We will bail them out because they aren't Puerto Rico"

Are they Republican states or Democratic states? Ted Cruz needs to know which way to vote.

#3 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-09-12 11:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

The arrogance of Republican Legislators thinking that if they passed a law that planners couldn't use science God would respect them for it. Apparently not? Who knew? To me the sad part is that many in those states aren't right wing Republican science deniers but they aren't in charge though they will suffer along with those who are.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2018-09-13 06:58 AM | Reply

Quick... someone tell Republicans that North Carolina is mostly brown people. Then they can ignore NC (and let thousands of Americans die) like they ignored Puerto Rico.

#5 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2018-09-13 08:39 AM | Reply

How much has it gone up since 2012, .1 mm +- 2 cm?

#6 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-09-13 09:10 AM | Reply

Would one of you smart SOB's tell me how much the ocean has risen in the last 10 years.

#7 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-09-13 10:49 AM | Reply

Would one of you smart SOB's tell me how much the ocean has risen in the last 10 years.

#7 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Why don't you tell us? Is your butt plugged up?

Just pull another "alternative fact" from there like you always do.

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-09-13 10:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#7 | POSTED BY SNIPER

you really are a moron. Everything the climate scientists have said would happen by now is happening.

Proof of your own incompetence is not proof that the scientists are wrong.

#9 | Posted by kudzu at 2018-09-13 11:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How much has it gone up since 2012, .1 mm +- 2 cm?

#6 | Posted by visitor_

I guess you'll have to ask someone who hasn't outlawed studying climate change like a moron.

#10 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-09-13 11:07 AM | Reply

"Part of the bill stipulated that state and local agencies must also refer to historical linear predictions of sea level rise rather than current research, and another alarming section required that research look only at 30-year predictions rather than at a century, as the CRC report had done."

Unbelievable. "You must use inaccurate data for your decisions." Well actually, coming from modern republicans, it's very believable, and very pathetic.

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-09-13 11:11 AM | Reply

We have it in our power to stop acting stupid. California is leading by example, with air pollution control and global warming mitigation.

#12 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-09-13 11:11 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

How much has it gone up since 2012, .1 mm +- 2 cm?
#6 | Posted by visitor_

Global sea level has been rising over the past century, and the rate has increased in recent decades. In 2014, global sea level was 2.6 inches above the 1993 average -- the highest annual average in the satellite record (1993-present). Sea level continues to rise at a rate of about one-eighth of an inch per year

oceanservice.noaa.gov

#13 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2018-09-13 11:19 AM | Reply

And in other hurricane news.............

Brad Pitt built dozens of homes in New Orleans after Katrina. Now they're falling apart and residents are suing.

NBC NEWS:

Kamaria Allen had no plans to return to the Lower 9th Ward after losing everything in Hurricane Katrina. But then she saw the new houses.

Billed as flood-safe and futuristic, the Make It Right homes towered over vacant lots in pops of teal, lemon and lavender. Houses like that just didn't exist in the working-class, mostly black section of New Orleans that Allen's family had called home for four generations -- and definitely not for $130,000.

"I called it my Mardi Gras float," Allen says of 1826 Reynes Street, the roof deck-topped home that now sits abandoned -- mushrooms growing from its split siding, wooden boards propping up its sagging roof. Allen bought the house in 2011 from the Make It Right Foundation, a charity formed by Brad Pitt to help Lower 9th Ward residents return home after the hurricane.

#14 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-09-13 11:22 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

We have it in our power to stop acting stupid. California is leading by example, with air pollution control and global warming mitigation.

#12 | Posted by bayviking

Which boils down to - not voting for morons.

California is the 5th larges economy in the world. It's incredible what you can accomplish when you don't elect republicans.

#15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-09-13 11:27 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"Why don't you tell us? Is your butt plugged up?" - #8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-09-13 10:55 AM

Perhaps 43 PLONKS! likes it that way.

#16 | Posted by Hans at 2018-09-13 11:28 AM | Reply

California is the 5th larges economy in the world. It's incredible what you can accomplish when you don't elect republicans. - #15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-09-13 11:27 AM

Meanwhile, WAY back on September 12, 2018:
California's poverty rate is still the highest in the nation

#17 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-09-13 11:46 AM | Reply

Wow, the point is valid but they sure are sensationalizing to try to fit a political agenda. The lack of planning wouldn't have helped this situation at all unless anyone actually believes that major infrastructure work (that hasn't been done yet worldwide, btw) gets done within 6 years. Hell, it takes a decade just to plan it all, then another to get by all the red tape and land acquisition/development.

This is simply one of those articles that metaphorically calls the reader a stupid idiot and slaps them across the face. It's a partisan talking point advertisement and so many people just gobble it up.

#18 | Posted by humtake at 2018-09-13 11:52 AM | Reply

Why don't you tell us? Is your butt plugged up?

Just pull another "alternative fact" from there like you always do.

#8 | Posted by donnerboy

What is the matter smarty? Can't find a number?

#19 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-09-13 12:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

you really are a moron. Everything the climate scientists have said would happen by now is happening.

Proof of your own incompetence is not proof that the scientists are wrong.

#9 | Posted by kudzu

How much ace?

#20 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-09-13 12:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I guess you'll have to ask someone who hasn't outlawed studying climate change like a moron.

#10 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

I am asking you and donni. Have you outlawed it, no one elese has.

#21 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-09-13 12:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#13 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce

Run for your life donnie. You will be flooded by the end of the month.

#22 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-09-13 12:33 PM | Reply

"Why don't you tell us? Is your butt plugged up?" - #8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-09-13 10:55 AM

Perhaps 43 PLONKS! likes it that way.

#16 | Posted by Hans

You just can't stop your stoopid posts.

#23 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-09-13 12:35 PM | Reply

Reading the poasts has convinced me that Trump caused this hurricane, helped by putskin of course. 😨

#24 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2018-09-13 12:47 PM | Reply

"Reading the poasts..." - #24 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2018-09-13 12:47 PM

Is "poast" shorthand for "pot roast"?

#25 | Posted by Hans at 2018-09-13 12:57 PM | Reply

I am asking you and donni.

#21 | Posted by Sniper

It takes more energy to ask someone else to google it for you than it takes to google it yourself.

Does someone else wipe your ass for you too?

#26 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-09-13 01:08 PM | Reply

You just can't stop your stoopid posts.

#23 | Posted by Sniper

You could PLONK him just like 43 people that have PLONKED you.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-09-13 01:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Run for your life donnie. You will be flooded by the end of the month.

#22 | Posted by Sniper

Fortunately I don't live on the Carolina coast.

I am at 200 feet above sea level so it will be a while before the water gets to my house.

But, then I would have beach front property!

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-09-13 01:15 PM | Reply

"Does someone else wipe your ass for you too?" - #26 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-09-13 01:08 PM

A friend was toilet-training her son at age 3. She told me that her son had the toilet paper thing sort of figured out; he would take some off the roll, but then just drop it in the toilet, forgetting the crucial interim step of actually wiping.

She nicknamed her son "sniper" because he at least hit the toilet with the (unused) toilet paper.

True story.

#29 | Posted by Hans at 2018-09-13 01:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Would one of you smart SOB's tell me how much the ocean has risen in the last 10 years.

#7 | POSTED BY SNIPER

About 4 inches average since 1992. Some places as much as 10 or 11 inches depending on natural variation. So likely about an inch and a half in the last decade.

The issue is that inch isn't an inch in a storm surge. It gets multiplied due to the surge.

Oops...

#30 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-09-13 01:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Wow, the point is valid but they sure are sensationalizing to try to fit a political agenda. The lack of planning wouldn't have helped this situation...

#18 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE AT

I don't know where you got that from this article. What I got is that the N.C. legislature took a politically driven position that does not match the data to pass a law which will now prevent state agencies and developers from using the data in planning their response to this storm. Should the impact from this storm be anywhere near as bad as expected then the rebuild effort will be misguided. Without that data available in their plans, there will likely be investments in areas that would be better left undeveloped or built to higher standards. Money will be wasted and the homes, businesses and lives of people who live in the area will be at greater risk after the cleanup than they otherwise would be.

#31 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2018-09-13 02:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I am at 200 feet above sea level so it will be a while before the water gets to my house.

#28 | Posted by donnerboy

By the end of the year for sure.

#32 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-09-13 02:20 PM | Reply

Maybe Eberly can tell us if insurers in North Carolina look to some other sources of data on flood risk, since the GOP has made it so North Carolina data can't be trusted.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-13 02:46 PM | Reply

The last sentence of the bloody story up top says "6.5 inches since 1950"!

#34 | Posted by Rincewind at 2018-09-13 03:37 PM | Reply

"About 4 inches average since 1992."

That's what Sniper keeps telling himself!

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-13 05:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Wow, the point is valid but they sure are sensationalizing to try to fit a political agenda. The lack of planning wouldn't have helped this situation...
#18 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

Its been pointed out before but no one paid attention.

Now it really really matters...and you want to ignore it because it suddenly really really matters?

This is why the country can no longer compete on the global stage.

#36 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-09-13 08:20 PM | Reply

Ted Cruz needs to know which way to vote.

#3 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2018-09-12 11:07 PM | REPLY | FLAG

It's not Texas is all that Rafael needs to know.

#37 | Posted by 726 at 2018-09-14 11:19 AM | Reply

Money will be wasted and the homes, businesses and lives of people who live in the area will be at greater risk after the cleanup than they otherwise would be.

#31 | POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE AT 2018-09-13 02:19 PM | FLAG:

Yeah but you left out the important part....sticking a finger in the eye of libruls.

#38 | Posted by 726 at 2018-09-14 11:20 AM | Reply

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