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Sunday, September 09, 2018

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) reportedly lost eight percent of its staff in the first 18 months of President Trump's administration due to high numbers of departing staffers and a low number of new hires. The Washington Post reported Saturday that nearly 1,600 workers left the EPA during that time, while fewer than 400 were hired. The agency's employment has shrunk to its lowest levels since the Reagan administration, the Post noted.

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Trumpers think clean air and water are unnecessary, they'll think again soon enough. Cough, cough. The haters should know that when the Democrats assume power again we will double the regulations that you eliminate. We will pack the SC so that your appointments will be meaningless. We will undo everything you do and make sure it stays that way only it will be five times stronger than before. You won't win, you can only delay our success. What -------- conservatives are. You really want children to breath dirty air or dring polluted water just so you can suck a few pennies more in profit? You're sick!

#1 | Posted by danni at 2018-09-09 06:44 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

GOOD!!!!!!!!!!

#2 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-09-09 10:42 AM | Reply

--We will pack the SC so that your appointments will be meaningless.

Please put that in the democrat platform.

#3 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-09 10:45 AM | Reply

GOOD!!!!!!!!!!

#2 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Yeah! I mean, who wants clean air or water?

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2018-09-09 11:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yeah! I mean, who wants clean air or water?

#4 | Posted by jpw

WOW, you think I want dirty air and water? Don't be a dope.

#5 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-09-09 01:26 PM | Reply

When Trump's done governing in bad faith, he will have shrunken the federal workforce not by direct policy, but by driving the most talented people out because they refuse to serve an imbecile intent on tearing down our institutions. Not only will we be left a skeleton crew, it will be made up of the only people who couldn't find work elsewhere.

Congratulations Republicans.

#6 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-09 01:38 PM | Reply

The private sector has been forced to do more with less as a result of government regulations, why shouldn't the government have to function in the same manner. It's not about clean air and water. It's about government's ever expanding at the expense of the governed. Personally, I think the government should be cut significantly.

#7 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2018-09-09 01:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

It's not about clean air and wat

When that's what the agency being kneecapped does, it literally is about that.

#8 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-09 01:56 PM | Reply

Incorrect. They still have the same job to do. They just have to do it with less people. Like everybody else. And it's aout time.

#9 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2018-09-09 02:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#9 | Posted by bogey1355, While I was in the Army, we used to pick up EPA employees when we worked improving roads along the border. I remember they on most occasions brought tents and sleeping bags, and ate in our mess. This while earning over a hundred dollars a day in per-Diem allowances. The extent of their "expertise" was to not run over cretin verities of cactus and watch out for fuel spills. We once were camped on a hazardous waste site, literally. The area was a land fill for asbestos. What we spend on and for some of these bureaucrats boggles the mind. Down here in Texas, the EPA doesn't strike much fear into the hearts of the oilmen, generally these guys don't know the difference between a hoe and a hole. But if they see a pickup labeled with Texas Railroad Commission, pucker factors increase immediately. Remember these employees quit, they were not fired or laid off. There is plenty of firms that would love to hire individuals familiar with the Federal regulations and inspection criteria. Might be because there is more manufacturing going on.

#10 | Posted by docnjo at 2018-09-09 04:52 PM | Reply

They still have the same job to do.

Not necessarily.

Protecting the environment is subjective.

And Republicans don't really see the good of protecting land that can be used to natural resources. Water and air that can be polluted so corporations can have more relaxed guidelines. Animals that can be hunted for trophies...

The head of the EPA doesn't even believe in climate change.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-09-09 05:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They just have to do it with less people. Like everybody else. And it's aout time.

#9 | POSTED BY BOGEY1355

Which means they can't do it as effectively.

Couple that with regulatory repeal and it's rapidly turning into a situation where corps are more or less left to be self-governing and we know how that turns out.

Hint, not good for us.

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2018-09-09 08:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

They still have the same job to do. They just have to do it with less people. Like everybody else.

I don't understand your "like everybody else" comment. I thought the economy was booming and the job market was roaring and employers were hiring. Why is government the only sector that should have to do with less, and how do you square that with your "like everyone else" comment?

#13 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-10 08:48 AM | Reply

8 percent is a good start. Now do it to most government departments.

#14 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-10 09:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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#16 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-09-10 12:07 PM | Reply

EPA employess like most government employees have no incentive to work hard or be efficient. We deal with them and when they say a permit will take 6 months it takes 6 months and a week. It's not that the process actually takes 6 months it's because they have 6 months to do it. I'm sure most of the employees that left were Obama holdovers who saw the writing on the wall, get to work or get out, you know which they chose.

#17 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-09-10 12:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

EPA lost more than 1,500 workers

That's ok. The------------------- is going to kill off 1400 Americans annually by easing pollution standards.

www.nytimes.com

#18 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2018-09-10 12:40 PM | Reply

Which means they can't do it as effectively.

#12 | Posted by jpw

Have you ever seen a government employee that was over worked? It is very hard to find them working.

#19 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-09-10 01:00 PM | Reply

"Have you ever seen a government employee that was over worked? It is very hard to find them working." - #19 | Posted by 43 PLONKS! 43 PLONKS! at 2018-09-10 01:00 PM

Every soldier, sailor and Marine is a government employee.

Just shows how little respect you have for the people who guard this country.

#20 | Posted by Hans at 2018-09-10 01:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yeah! I mean, who wants clean air or water?
#4 | Posted by jpw
WOW, you think I want dirty air and water? Don't be a dope.
#5 | POSTED BY SNIPER

What you say you want and what you cheer for are two very different things.

#21 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-09-10 01:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Not to mention that nearly 1/3 of government workers are veterans. Guess we know what rightwingers really think about our troops.

#22 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-10 01:57 PM | Reply

Have you ever seen a government employee that was over worked? It is very hard to find them working.

#19 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Yep. Quite a few especially in law, law enforcement, and especially the EPA. They are stretched very very thin when it comes to inspecting chemical facilities and oil rigs.

Oh sorry, were you trying to be funny?

#23 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-09-10 01:58 PM | Reply

Not to mention that nearly 1/3 of government workers are veterans. Guess we know what rightwingers really think about our troops.

#22 | Posted by JOE

2/3 of Veterans are not government workers and would likely appreciate Federal Workers playing by the same rules as the rest of us...more with less. Time for Federal Employees to start being more productive and fiscally responsible. Every department head should have to start from scratch and justify every position and dollar spent. Time to get rid of legacy budgeting in government.

#24 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2018-09-10 03:31 PM | Reply

2/3 of Veterans are not government workers and would likely appreciate Federal Workers playing by the same rules as the rest of us...more with less. Time for Federal Employees to start being more productive and fiscally responsible. Every department head should have to start from scratch and justify every position and dollar spent. Time to get rid of legacy budgeting in government.

#24 | POSTED BY BOGEY1355

1. Actually, it's the opposite. Federal Workers get paid less and get less resources to do their jobs with. How do you not know this?

2. The other reason low level Federal employees tend to be less productive is because the Feds prioritize hiring veterans who can't find work elsewhere often due to mental health or disabilities and non-veteran individuals with disabilities who can't find work elsewhere. This lowers how much we spend on assistance type programs.

3. If you want every department to start from scratch on budgeting, that's fine. Please provide the roughly $1 trillion it would take to do the extra work associated with such an audit.

So Bogey, you should try posting less and you'd look smarter.

#25 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-09-10 03:39 PM | Reply

the same rules as the rest of us...more with less.

I'll repeat: I thought the economy waa booming? So why are we all supposedly doing "more with less" such that government needs to do the "same as the rest of us?"

#26 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-10 04:12 PM | Reply

Every soldier, sailor and Marine is a government employee.

Just shows how little respect you have for the people who guard this country.

#20 | Posted by Hans

They are NOT government workers, they are in the military. None of the civilian employees I have ever been around have broken a sweat even on the hottest days.

#27 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-09-10 04:33 PM | Reply

1. Actually, it's the opposite. Federal Workers get paid less and get less resources to do their jobs with. How do you not know this?

2. The other reason low level Federal employees tend to be less productive is because the Feds prioritize hiring veterans who can't find work elsewhere often due to mental health or disabilities and non-veteran individuals with disabilities who can't find work elsewhere. This lowers how much we spend on assistance type programs.

3. If you want every department to start from scratch on budgeting, that's fine. Please provide the roughly $1 trillion it would take to do the extra work associated with such an audit.

#25 | Posted by Sycophant

#1 and #2 are damn lies.

#3 is pure BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You could get rid of 80% of the bureaucrats and none would be missed. That is true in every government in the US including city, county, and state.

#28 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-09-10 04:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"They are NOT government workers, they are in the military." - #27 | Posted by 43 PLONKS! 43 PLONKS! at 2018-09-10 04:33 PM

Title 5 US Code, Part III, para 2101 provides definitions for Civil Service, Armed Forces and Uniformed Services. These are the catgories used in Title 5 of the US Code. All three, or any of the three, could be considered Federal Employees
Oops.

snippy: the standard by which all other imbeciles are judged

#29 | Posted by Hans at 2018-09-10 07:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

1. Actually, it's the opposite. Federal Workers get paid less and get less resources to do their jobs with. How do you not know this?
2. The other reason low level Federal employees tend to be less productive is because the Feds prioritize hiring veterans who can't find work elsewhere often due to mental health or disabilities and non-veteran individuals with disabilities who can't find work elsewhere. This lowers how much we spend on assistance type programs.
3. If you want every department to start from scratch on budgeting, that's fine. Please provide the roughly $1 trillion it would take to do the extra work associated with such an audit.
#25 | Posted by Sycophant
#1 and #2 are damn lies.
#3 is pure BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You could get rid of 80% of the bureaucrats and none would be missed. That is true in every government in the US including city, county, and state.
#28 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Wait, are you that stupid?

1. Yes, we pay Federal Workers less than their private counterparts. How do you not know this? Trump just cut their differential pay that helps cover some of the difference.
2. If you ever applied for a federal job, you'd know that they even list their preferential application basis in the damn application for these things.
3. To be that stupid is a talent...

#30 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-09-10 07:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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