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Saturday, September 08, 2018

Last night, a female Dallas Police officer returned to what she believed to be her apartment after her shift ended -- she was still in uniform when she encountered Mr. Botham Shem Jean inside the apartment.

It's not clear what the interaction was between her and the victim.

Then at some point she fired her weapon striking the victim.

She called 911 -- officers responded in about four minutes. Dallas Fire Rescue also responded and took Mr. Jean to the hospital where he later died.

At the very early stages of this investigation -- initial indications were that they were what we consider circumstances of an officer involved shooting.

However, as we continued this investigation it became clear that we were dealing with what appears to be a much different and very unique situation.

Therefore, we have ceased handling it under our normal officer involved shooting protocol, a blood sample was drawn to test for drugs and alcohol, we are in the process of obtaining a warrant, and we have also invited the Texas Rangers to conduct an independent investigation.

I've spoken with the family expressed my condolences and reassured them that we are working diligently and that we have invited an outside agency to investigate.

Right now there are more questions than answers. We understand the concerns of the community. That is why we are working as vigorously and meticulously as we can to ensure the integrity of the case and the department is upheld.

In doing so -- we hope to bring understanding to the family.

We ask that you work alongside us as we move through this process.

As a result of the information above, an arrest warrant is being obtained for the officer involved in this incident.




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Tonyroma put this up yesterday....

#1 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-09-08 10:48 AM | Reply

Bizarre story. The officer had no moment of non-paranoid bemusement? Didn't note that interior decor was radically different? Didn't see that the man she met wasn't armed?

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2018-09-08 10:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The psychology of guns is fascinating.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2018-09-08 10:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--Tonyroma put this up yesterday....

Yes but the thread was ruined by the HTML Troll. Better to start fresh.

#4 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-08 10:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

At home alone while black - how many rounds did she expend?

#5 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2018-09-08 11:05 AM | Reply

Something doesn't add up here. I was going to say that perhaps she was drunk, but her shift had just ended making that unlikely. If she really thiught it was her apartment, wouldn't that "thought" be shaken by the fact that her key doesn't work? One article says neighbors heard banging on the door like an "open up, police" sort of thing. If thats how you gain access do you still really think it's your own apartment?

Unless she had an episode of psychosis i'm thinking the story is cover for something else. Perhaps a pre-existing relationship between the two?

#6 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-08 11:16 AM | Reply

Bigger picture, i think we need to start training police on how to shoot people in the leg, so they aren't killed when officers make such idiotic mistakes. By all accounts this guy was an upstanding citizen, unarmed and likely would have had his hands in the air. What reason is there to shoot to kill in this scenario?

#7 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-08 11:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Good Lord, WTF? If you're too damned stupid or high to recognize that you are not in your own apartment, what are you doing armed with a weapon and put on the streets to protect and serve? I agree with Joe -- her -------tory, already bad enough that she should be charged with a crime, is likely a cover for what was really going on.

#8 | Posted by cbob at 2018-09-08 11:58 AM | Reply

I googled and found that the officer has, in fact, been charged with manslaughter. Still not clear what actually happened. Dallas police are being tight-lipped so far, but it's obvious they knew there were problems with her story from the start, which explains why they brought in an independent police force to investigate.

And people wonder why Black Lives Matter exists.

#9 | Posted by cbob at 2018-09-08 12:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

If you live by the hammer everything is a nail. 🔨

This is the kind of freak accident that always waiting to happen when you carry a deadly weapon.

(Maybe she got into the "evidence locker" just before she went home?)

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-09-08 12:46 PM | Reply



A photo has surfaced showing the officer with the victim in a casual/party situation.

Clearly, there's more to this story.

#11 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-09-08 01:11 PM | Reply

"Clearly, there's more to this story."

Don't expect the charges to be upgraded to murder from manslaughter when they figure this out.

#12 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2018-09-08 01:21 PM | Reply

Bigger picture, i think we need to start training police on how to shoot people in the leg

#7 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2018-09-08 11:17 AM

Why don't police shoot people in the legs?

#13 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-09-08 01:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


Why don't police officers ask if they're in the right place?

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2018-09-08 01:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-- think we need to start training police on how to shoot people in the leg

Watches a lot of tv.

#15 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-08 02:02 PM | Reply

#13 fair enough. How about more use of tasers then? Or are those only used on 87 year old women cutting dandelions?

#16 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-08 02:14 PM | Reply

How about more use of tasers then?

#16 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2018-09-08 02:14 PM | REPLY

All less-than-lethal options are unreliable. The taser is frequently defeated by the simple hoodie.

#17 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-09-08 02:47 PM | Reply

All less-than-lethal options are unreliable.

How do Japan, Britain and Germany manage? Are their cops just getting beaten up left and right, half their crimes going unsolved?

#18 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-08 02:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I just have a simple theory; alcohol. I actually sympathize with the officer but she committed a horrible crime, she needs to accept her punishment. I knew a young man who killed someone while drunk driving, I respected him because he accepted his guilt, was honestly sorry for it and accepted his punishment without whining. From what I have read, that is what this woman now needs to do. It sucks but that is what happens when you mix alcohol with guns.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2018-09-08 03:10 PM | Reply

"All less-than-lethal options are unreliable."

And thus, the right to life itself is unreliable whenever you're interacting with the police.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-09-08 05:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#18 they beat you with clubs. Old fashioned policing. They still do it here in alot of places.

#21 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-09-08 05:58 PM | Reply

#21 good. Lets switch to that instead of murdering people. Deal?

#22 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-09 12:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When a person wants to kill other people, they're on the lookout for an opportunity. What better calling than civilian murderer, or better known as a police officer.


#23 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-09-09 01:22 AM | Reply

Dallas police tell me the just off shift officer who shot and killed a man in his own apartment, was on the WRONG FLOOR. HER apartment was on another floor. Her key didn't work in the door. Shooting happened shortly after resident opened his own door.



#24 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-09-09 09:16 AM | Reply

#21 google "Rodney King".

#25 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-09-09 09:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

All less-than-lethal options are unreliable.

So it is better to err in favor of the cop's life than in the favor of an (innocent until proven guilty) citizen's. I get it, "Protect and Serve (ourselves)", right?

#26 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2018-09-09 11:35 AM | Reply

That is how the system is setup.

#27 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-09-09 11:53 AM | Reply

"It's been said that racism is so American, that when we protest racism, some assume we are protesting America."

Beyonce - Dec. 5, 2017


#28 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-09-09 11:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

all i know is that life in america must be a real nightmare for a black man diagnosed with paranoia. it seems like it would be hard to convince him that his take on things wasn't justified.

#29 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2018-09-09 02:07 PM | Reply

It will be interesting to see if they find that fatigue/sleep deprivation played a role. She had just got off work after a 15 hour shift when the killing occurred.

#30 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2018-09-10 12:16 AM | Reply

a little more information on the officer, this is not the first time she shot somebody. She tried to apprehend a suspect last year, grappled with them, used her taser, taser didnt work, got it taken from her by the suspect and then shot them.

#31 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-09-10 08:49 AM | Reply

#31 that sounds like a bit more justified use of a weapon than banging on the door of the wrong apartment, on the wrong floor, and shooting its occupant.

#32 | Posted by JOE at 2018-09-10 08:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dallas police officer Amber Guyger was arrested Sept. 9 and charged with manslaughter in the fatal shooting of her neighbor, Botham Shem Jean.

#33 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2018-09-10 09:31 AM | Reply

google "Rodney King".

What about him? He took a beating. A horrible one at that. But. He lived. And he went on to become an alcoholic and live a sad life.

But he lived. And is famous for saying "can't we all just get along?"

I'm sure you had a point. I think it was about sodomizing yourself with your gun and never letting go of it.

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-09-10 04:32 PM | Reply

"It's been said that racism is so American, that when we protest racism, some assume we are protesting America."
Beyonce - Dec. 5, 2017


Great post and link Tony.

Deserves to be said twice. (At least twice)

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-09-10 04:33 PM | Reply

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