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Thursday, August 30, 2018

In the letter, Trump said a 25.7-percent pay raise for localities, as well as a 2.1-percent pay increase for across-the-board pay, both scheduled for January 2019, would add billions to the federal deficit. Specifically, he pointed to the scheduled locality pay raise as costing $25 billion. "We must maintain efforts to put our Nation on a fiscally sustainable course, and Federal agency budgets cannot sustain such increases," Trump wrote in a letter. He cited Title 5 of the U.S. Code of Laws, as the basis for making the change, saying that the measure allows such decisions when a "national emergency or serious economic conditions" affect "the general welfare."

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"According to House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Kevin Brady (R-TX), today's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act will add $1.51 trillion to the debt, before accounting for interest or possible gimmicks. This cost would likely be enough to cause debt to exceed the size of the economy by 2028 – bad news for the nation's fiscal and economic future.

Of the $1.5 trillion cost, roughly $1 trillion comes from business tax cuts. Individual tax cuts make up another $300 billion, and the ultimate repeal of the estate tax accounts for the remaining $200 billion."

www.crfb.org

#1 | Posted by danni at 2018-08-30 03:50 PM | Reply

Weird; he nixes federal worker pay increase but sees no difficulty in wasting millions every weekend golfing at his own properties, all the while profiting from charging the US taxpayer rent and billing the government for his security details and wreaking havoc on air traffic patterns.

But please, tell me agin, how it was Hillary who was the crooked one.

#2 | Posted by e1g1 at 2018-08-30 05:20 PM | Reply

"today's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act will add $1.51 trillion to the debt, before accounting for interest"

Well isn't that convenient. All those times the Rs were touting $1.5 Trillion, it turns out they were using Republican Math™

Once interest is included, Wharton pegged it at $2.1 Trillion. Of additionally borrowed money. So we could give it away.

82% will go to the world's wealthiest 1%. 60% will go to the world's wealthiest .1%.

Next time a Republican claims we don't have funds, remind them what they did.

#3 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-08-30 05:26 PM | Reply

Wow. From "best economy ever" to "national emergency" and "serious economic conditions" basically overnight.

#4 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2018-08-30 05:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

We must maintain efforts to put our Nation on a fiscally sustainable course

---- you Dotard.

And ---- you Republicans.

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2018-08-30 05:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

But please, tell me agin, how it was Hillary who was the crooked one.

One word. Haiti.

#6 | Posted by boaz at 2018-08-30 05:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

It makes sense if you think about it; break down government employee moral, fail to raise wages, limit discourse and open thought...eventually resulting in a less than desirable workforce, which fits into the narrative that government employees are leeches, do a poor job, etc., cut funding, rinse and repeat.

#7 | Posted by horstngraben at 2018-08-30 05:46 PM | Reply

25.7-percent pay raise for localities

wow 25.7%!!

#8 | Posted by Maverick at 2018-08-30 05:47 PM | Reply

Just read that 623,000 veterans work in civilian federal posts, around 30% of all civilian government jobs.

#9 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2018-08-30 05:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump is doing this for the power high. It's financial sadism. He's happier than a pig in ----. He's suffering so the world will suffer.

Yes, we ought to be afraid of this bastard. I no longer think he'll simply collapse when the pressure gets too much. I think he'll set himself to burn.

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2018-08-30 05:59 PM | Reply

#10 absolutely. He'll hold on for as long as possible to burn as much down as he can.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2018-08-30 06:09 PM | Reply

Good.

#12 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2018-08-30 06:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Maybe they'll quit and go to the private sector.

www.youtube.com

#13 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-08-30 06:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Starve the beast" has been R dogma for years. Social Security and Medicare are next. This is what those who got off their butts and voted in 2016 voted for. Nobody else matters.

#14 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2018-08-30 06:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

One thing that won't be cut... his golfing weekends. He makes too much money off of those.

#15 | Posted by 726 at 2018-08-30 06:17 PM | Reply

Consumer confidence my @$$

#16 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-08-30 06:23 PM | Reply

Maybe they'll quit and go to the private sector

I see you've become a useful idiot.

You're training is complete.

#17 | Posted by jpw at 2018-08-30 06:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

They already do nothing for $120K/yr.

I'm a witness.

#18 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-08-30 06:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Funny.

Trump deficit this year is TWICE the last Obama deficit.

#19 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-30 06:48 PM | Reply

25.7-percent pay raise for localities
wow 25.7%!!
#8 | POSTED BY MAVERICK AT 2018-08-30 05:47 PM | FLAG:

Let me explain this to the apes who actually believe Trump's fake news:

A "25.7% locality pay raise" is not what it sounds like. According to federal workers I know, government pay is set across the board by a uniform schedule (the "GS scale"). Hardly anyone makes that rate of pay; it is then adjusted by a percentage nationwide depending on where a job is located. Workers in San Francisco make more than those in Little Rock, for obvious reasons.

The locality pay adjustments are not in scale with the actual cost of living. In New York City, one of the most expensive places in the world to live, a federal worker makes 32% more than the base GS scale. But even someone in Indianapolis, a relatively affordable city, makes 16% more than the base GS scale.

At the end of the day, a 27.5% increase in locality pay is only an increase in the locality adjustment, not in the overall rate of pay. So if someone makes $50,000/year on the base scale and their locality adjustment is 10% or $5,000, a 27.5% locality increase would only be $27.5% of $5,000, or $1,375. So the pay goes from $55,000 to $56,375. It is not a 27.5% raise.

#20 | Posted by JOE at 2018-08-30 06:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

25.7-percent pay raise for localities
wow 25.7%!!

#8 | POSTED BY MAVERICK

Do you even know what locality pay is?

It's the difference between what a federal worker gets and what a private worker gets in the same locality. The federal government pays a smaller amount than the difference to ensure the government worker is getting at least closer to the private workers' pay. It's that difference that was increasing. It was supposed to go up 25% last year. Trump let it go up 0.5%.

So no, it's not a lot of money despite the percentage.

#21 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-30 06:53 PM | Reply

#20 | POSTED BY JOE

Beat me to it.

#22 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-30 06:53 PM | Reply

They already do nothing for $120K/yr.
I'm a witness.
#18 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2018-08-30 06:45 PM | REPLY | FLAG

$120k a year? HA! You have to be a GS-15 Step 6 on the general GS Pay Scale (no locality adjustment) to make $120k a year. Even in high locality places like DC and Houston, you have to be a high GS-13 or mid-GS 14 to make those kind of dollars.

#23 | Posted by bartimus at 2018-08-30 06:53 PM | Reply

They already do nothing for $120K/yr.
I'm a witness.

#18 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Don't worry. We pay a private sector worker 50% more than that to not do the same job. Ever worked as a large corporation?

#24 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-30 06:54 PM | Reply

e pay a private sector worker 50% more than that to not do the same job. Ever worked as a large corporation?

#24 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2018-08-30 06:54 PM | FLAG: UH HUH

Wow Yrumplthinskin offered Omorosa 180K a year to do nothing.

#25 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2018-08-30 07:00 PM | Reply

#24 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

Shouldn't you be somewhere boycotting an In-and-Out Burger?

#26 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-08-30 07:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 4 | Newsworthy 2

They already do nothing for $120K/yr.
I'm a witness.
#18 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2018-08-30 06:45 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Very very very very few. And those could make much more elsewhere.

Our public sector employees are in public service.

#27 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-08-30 07:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Don't worry. We pay a private sector worker 50% more than that to not do the same job. Ever worked as a large corporation?
#24 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2018-08-30 06:54 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

It's crazy but true - private sector contractors are significantly more expensive than civil servants for the government.

www.pogo.org

#28 | Posted by bartimus at 2018-08-30 07:04 PM | Reply

Trump's base hates federal employees, this isn't to save money, it's to please his base by denying federal employees raises. At least most of those employees would have spent those raises, the 1% who got the largest portion of the tax cuts won't spend their savings because they already have everything they want.

#29 | Posted by danni at 2018-08-30 07:13 PM | Reply

#24 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT
Shouldn't you be somewhere boycotting an In-and-Out Burger?

#26 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Nice to see the Tin Foil Hat Club President back again.

Whats on the agenda today? Chem Trails? Flat Earth? Vaccines as a mind control tool? I look forward to your next rant.

#30 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-30 07:22 PM | Reply

#18 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Welcome back?

No ---- off! LOL

#31 | Posted by jpw at 2018-08-30 07:24 PM | Reply

Trump's base hates federal employees...

Not if they wear uniforms and carry guns.

#32 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-08-30 07:26 PM | Reply

#31 seconded.

#33 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-08-30 07:26 PM | Reply

Very true Redial. Well, unless they are protecting federal lands from ranchers who won't pay their grazing fees.

#34 | Posted by danni at 2018-08-30 07:33 PM | Reply

#33 Thirded!

#35 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-08-30 07:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Also...

Dear Republicans,

Thank you for this today. If you wanted to ensure the 2 million Federal workers, including some 600,000 military veterans, both get out to vote and vote Democrat in a few months, this was one great way to ensure that.

We appreciate you giving us the House and Senate in November.

#36 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-30 07:42 PM | Reply

What up Sheep!

#37 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-08-30 07:51 PM | Reply

Very true Redial. Well, unless they are protecting federal lands from ranchers who won't pay their grazing fees.

#34 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2018-08-30 07:33 PM | FLAG:

On land stolen from native Americans?

#38 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-08-30 07:53 PM | Reply

"On land stolen from native Americans?"

True but those yahoos aiming guns at federal officers from the Bureau of Land Management were not Native Americans. Virtually all the "illegal immigrants" coming to America are Native Americans though.

#39 | Posted by danni at 2018-08-30 08:11 PM | Reply

If you wanted to ensure the 2 million Federal workers, including some 600,000 military veterans, both get out to vote and vote Democrat in a few months, this was one great way to ensure that.

The military will still get their raises.

#40 | Posted by JOE at 2018-08-30 08:19 PM | Reply

Active military is still getting their raises. The large amount of veterans working in public service positions are getting shafted like the rest of the public service workers.

#41 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2018-08-30 08:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

--Shouldn't you be somewhere boycotting an In-and-Out Burger?

Cam Edwards
‏Verified account @CamEdwards

They should start a socialist burger chain to compete with In-N-Out instead. Call it Hammer & Pickle.

#42 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-08-30 09:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

Not, "Meat and Pickle"?

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-08-30 09:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"I like Veterans who don't work for the government."

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-08-30 09:30 PM | Reply

"He knew what he signed up for."

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-08-30 09:31 PM | Reply

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#46 | Posted by 726 at 2018-08-31 08:15 AM | Reply

#23 | Posted by bartimus

And the area around DC is the richest area in the USA, go figure.,

#47 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-08-31 09:55 AM | Reply

It's crazy but true - private sector contractors are significantly more expensive than civil servants for the government.

#28 | Posted by bartimus

I guess you have no clue what it really costs to hire someone.

#48 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-08-31 09:58 AM | Reply

136+ million federal workers in USA.

#49 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-08-31 10:02 AM | Reply

On land stolen from native Americans?

#38 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Give your house back to them.

#50 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-08-31 10:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Definition of native
1 : inborn, innate

native talents

2 : belonging to a particular place by birth

a native New Yorker

3 archaic : closely related
4 : belonging to or associated with one by birth

hailed in his native Sweden as an influential dramatist -- William Peden

5 : natural, normal

a generosity that was native to him

6 a : grown, produced, or originating in a particular place or in the vicinity : local

native fruits and vegetables

b : living or growing naturally in a particular region : indigenous

native wildlife of Australia

#51 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-08-31 10:06 AM | Reply

"136+ million federal workers in USA."

What you posted is an easily disproven lie.

If you're worried about people calling you stupid, stop posting stupid things. The Wall Street Journal says it's less than 3 million: blogs.wsj.com

Tell us: Which word(s) don't you understand? 136? Million? Federal?

#52 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-08-31 10:07 AM | Reply

Now that we've helped the .01% through tax cuts and are forced to bailout farmers due to our messy trade wars, we got no money for federal workers. IOW, we have the money to help those we want to help but will use the "ain't got no money" excuse for not helping those we don't want to help. Got it.

#53 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-08-31 10:08 AM | Reply

"I like Veterans who don't work for the government."

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-08-30 09:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

"He knew what he signed up for."

#45 | Posted by snoofy

And his retirement and healthcare were part of that package.

#54 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-08-31 10:08 AM | Reply

"the area around DC is the richest area in the USA"

Who is telling you these lies?

DC is not even in the top ten:
www.cnbc.com

#55 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-08-31 10:10 AM | Reply

"What you posted is an easily disproven lie."

A lie? You give him too much credit. You have to know that what you're saying isn't true for it to be a lie. It's not like there is anything to suggest that number isn't accurate. 136 million is only about half of all working Americans.

#56 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2018-08-31 10:16 AM | Reply

It's crazy but true - private sector contractors are significantly more expensive than civil servants for the government.
#28 | Posted by bartimus
I guess you have no clue what it really costs to hire someone.
#48 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Apparently you don't...
Literally the proof you are wrong is in the damn article where it refers to locality pay. Locality pay is paying PART of the difference between how little we pay the federal worker compared to his private worker counterpart in the same area. Hint: The difference is a lot.

#57 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-31 12:44 PM | Reply

136+ million federal workers in USA.

#49 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Damn... That's pretty stupid even for you...

#58 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-31 12:44 PM | Reply

58

can you give us an example of that? I'm not doubting it but just curious to see an example.

#59 | Posted by eberly at 2018-08-31 12:46 PM | Reply

And his retirement and healthcare were part of that package.

#54 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Retirement SHOULD be part of any employment package. Healthcare should not. One should not have to be employed to get good health care. Employers should not be in the healthcare business.

Now retirement benefits are nothing more than folks gambling on the stock market with their life savings.

When normal retirements are restored and heathcare is a right then that is when America will be Great again.

#60 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-08-31 02:15 PM | Reply

Since those federal workers are doing nothing let's shut it down!

We don't need no stinking federal government.

Shut it down Humpy!

Make it a good long shut down this time. If you don't shut it down like you've threatened then you are a coward.

Just before the mid-terms will be perfect timing.😉

#61 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-08-31 02:21 PM | Reply

I guess you have no clue what it really costs to hire someone.

#48 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2018-08-31 09:58 AM |

The math is quite simple

Private cost = government cost PLUS PROFIT AND MARKETING

Everything we have privatised has ended up costing more for poorer results.

#62 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-08-31 04:38 PM | Reply

I guess you have no clue what it really costs to hire someone."

Sniper who do you think you're fooling. You've never hired anyone. I have hired and paid many people. But then, you're a joke.

"When normal retirements are restored and heathcare is a right then that is when America will be Great again. "

And sadly, America will never be great again because of Fox News. As long as we allow those liars to control half of the population we can't ever move forward because the billionaires don't want us to, it would cut into their bottom line.

#63 | Posted by danni at 2018-09-01 11:12 AM | Reply

--America will never be great again because of Fox News.

lol. What would your team do without the Fox News boogyman to blame for all your electoral failures?

#64 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-09-01 11:18 AM | Reply

we have the money to help those we want to help but will use the "ain't got no money" excuse for not helping those we don't want to help. Got it.

#53 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Hmmmmm Sounds exactly like what my ex-wife does....

#65 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2018-09-01 11:21 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

64

LOL. You should read what she's posting everywhere. She has thrown in the towel.

Sad stuff.

#66 | Posted by eberly at 2018-09-01 11:37 AM | Reply

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