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Monday, August 27, 2018

A little-noticed court case stemming from the apparent murder of a Columbia University professor six decades ago could keep special counsel Robert Mueller from publishing any information about the Trump campaign and Russia that he obtains through a Washington grand jury. The substance of the case is entirely unrelated to Mueller's investigation into whether any of President Donald Trump's associates aided Russia's efforts to intervene in the 2016 election. And it might even keep the special counsel from sending a report to Congress, shaking Democrats' hopes that such a document could provide the impetus for impeachment proceedings against the president. "It is a sleeper case," Harvard Law professor Alex Whiting said. "If the D.C. Circuit were to accept the Department of Justice's arguments ... that would have potentially enormous implications for the future of the information from the Mueller investigation. That could close out a path by which that information becomes public."

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I was talking about this a couple of weeks ago on a Mueller thread, this case has been around for years (and no, the Justice Department's position didn't change with the change in administrations in 2016) and could lead to a GOP lead House suppressing Mueller's report.

Interesting fact pattern in the underlying case, check out the article if you are interested.

#1 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-08-27 06:20 PM | Reply

and could lead to a GOP lead House suppressing Mueller's report.

#1 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-08-27 06:20 PM | Reply

They could try to suppress it. This information wants to be free, and I imagine it will be one way of the other.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2018-08-27 06:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

While the goopers are diggin up old case law to try and save Humpy's Bacon maybe they should try and revive the old Alien and Sedition Act.

That really worked well at Making America Great and it's still constitutional! We can't be having them Ebil immigrants voting or supporting them Ebil Dems.

"Get Em Out of Here!"

Yes, America actually made it a crime to "willfully utter, print, write, or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of the Government of the United States" or to "willfully urge, incite, or advocate any curtailment of the production" of the things "necessary or essential to the prosecution of the war." The act, along with other similar federal laws, was used to convict at least 877 people in 1919 and 1920, according to a report by the attorney general. In 1919, the Court heard several important free speech cases -- including Debs v. United States and Abrams v. United States -- involving the constitutionality of the law. In both cases, the Court upheld the convictions as well as the law.

Now that's the kind of America I'm talking about!

MAGA!

Build the Wall!

Kill all "Others"! (oops... a little too far still?)

#3 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-08-27 07:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

This information wants to be free, and I imagine it will be one way of the other.

I agree, I think it comes out given the sieve that Washington is, no matter what the legal status of this case is.

#4 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-08-27 10:28 PM | Reply

Sounds like a lot of wishful thinking in order to protect your Orange Fuhrer.

#5 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-08-28 02:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I'm extremely curious about Mueller's disaster plan, I.e., what extraordinary plan he may have to save his work and get it out anyway, even if some Saturday night Trump suddenly fires Sessions and Rosenberg then immediately appoints Rosenberg's replacement, who in turn immediately fires Mueller, shuts down his investigation, and seals Mueller's records pending destruction of them.

Is Mueller prepared to personally take a patriotic bullet to get his info out somehow?

#6 | Posted by nimbleswitch at 2018-08-28 06:35 AM | Reply

It's in Mueller's interest to keep it secret since there isn't any Russia collusion except between Democratic operatives at the FBI, Hillary's campaign and Fusion GPS.

#7 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-08-28 07:44 AM | Reply

Possibly a whistleblower could leak the report to Congress with impunity under the Lloyd-Lafollette Act.

#8 | Posted by spectator at 2018-08-28 08:29 AM | Reply

Mueller's not going to do all this work just to let a bunch of partisan hacks prevent the nation from knowing about it. He's 100x smarter than people like Devin Nunes and i guarantee you he has two dozen contingency plans for every ridiculous scenario this leads to.

#9 | Posted by JOE at 2018-08-28 08:42 AM | Reply

#7

" since there isn't any Russia collusion except between Democratic operatives at the FBI, Hillary's campaign and Fusion GPS."

VISITOR = Rip Van Winkle

#10 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-08-28 08:45 AM | Reply

If a Washington appeals court set to hear the murder-related case next month sides with the Justice Department and rules that judges don't have the freedom to release grand jury information that is usually kept secret, it could throw a monkey wrench into any plans Mueller has to issue a public report on his probe's findings.

It might keep the special counsel from sending a report to Congress, if the Republicans retain control of the House. Two Republican Judges and one Democrat Judge will rule on the matter. Judges are supposed to be non-partisan, but we all have witnessed how ridiculous that assumption is.

A law which expired in 1999 permitted the case against Nixon to be published. It was also the mechanism used for the 1998 report that led to the impeachment of President Bill Clinton. A Justice Department spokesman declined to explain why the agency approved release of that report but is fighting to keep information in other grand jury-related cases under wraps. This suggests that the unappreciated Sessions may be fighting any release to protect Trump.

Typical of all US law, its complicated and the writing and application of laws are politically motivated. One set of rules for Liberals, another for conservative right wing nuts who generally enjoy more protection by the teams of police, prosecutors and Judges that rule.

#11 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-08-28 09:12 AM | Reply

The substance of the case is entirely unrelated to Mueller's investigation into whether any of President Donald Trump's associates aided Russia's efforts to intervene in the 2016 election.

Looks like we have a theme here...

#12 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2018-08-28 11:22 AM | Reply

It's in Mueller's interest to keep it secret since there isn't any Russia collusion except between Democratic operatives at the FBI, Hillary's campaign and Fusion GPS.

#7 | POSTED BY comrade VISITOR

More wishful thinking from a twerp that hangs out too much at Breitbart comments section.

Trump has been face deep in Russia for 30 years, you morons in the alt-right snowglobe will be the last to find this out though. ....and when the Trump Family is being led off in chains and shackles you'll be screaming "fake news" through your salty tears.

#13 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-08-28 12:26 PM | Reply

#7 piss off idiot.

If I wanted to listen to Hannity's garbage I'd give myself a lobotomy and turn it on just before my car careened off the cliff.

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2018-08-28 01:13 PM | Reply

It's in Mueller's interest to keep it secret since there isn't any Russia collusion except between Democratic operatives at the FBI, Hillary's campaign and Fusion GPS.

#7 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Russian Collusion has already been admitted to. Trump said it himself.

The question is who knew and how coordinated was it?

Try to keep up.

#15 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-28 02:18 PM | Reply

#7: When Trump's campaign planned to meet with Russian operatives for the expressed purpose of receiving information from them to assist Trump's campaign, and then actually did go and meet with them in Trump Tower, June 9, 2016 -- that's a conspiracy (you Republicans like to call it collusion).

The fact that it thereafter failed (assuming it did) lessens the conspiracy not an iota.

#16 | Posted by nimbleswitch at 2018-08-28 02:33 PM | Reply

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