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Friday, August 17, 2018

Georgia police are defending an officer's decision to use a taser on a 87-year-old elderly woman using a knife to cut dandelions. Law enforcement officials say the woman, Martha Al-Bishara, should have followed orders. But Al-Bishara does not speak English and did not understand the officer's request, her family says. ... Al-Bishara was cutting dandelions outside a local Boys and Girls Club nearby her home in Chatsworth to use in a salad, her family said. An employee called the police on her for walking around with a knife. "She's old so she can't get around too well, but," the employee said on the 911 recording. "Looks like she's walking around looking for something, like, vegetation to cut down or something.

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Oh, fer fecksake!

#1 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2018-08-17 05:26 PM | Reply

Speaking Arabic?
I guess she's lucky they didn't shoot her. She probably just wanted a few dandelions to make a fresh salad or some wine.
Why are cops so scared of everyone?

#2 | Posted by autonomous at 2018-08-17 05:44 PM | Reply

"Looks like she's walking around looking for something, like, vegetation to cut down or something"

Is that actually, like, illegal or something?

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-08-17 11:51 PM | Reply

"---- her!"

~Georgia Police Officer.

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-08-17 11:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Is that actually, like, illegal or something?

Depends.

What color are you?

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-08-17 11:58 PM | Reply

Of course they did.

It too much werk for Barney to notice that the reason the subject (peasant, fief, whatever) wasn't responding with appropriate speed to his demands was because she didn't speak English.

And of course his bros in Overcompensatingland back him because, gosh darnit, 87 year olds will f--- them up and you can never be too safe.

#6 | Posted by jpw at 2018-08-18 12:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Welcome to America...ZZZZZZZtttttt.

#7 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-08-18 12:49 AM | Reply

Welcome to Trumps Amerikkka!
----- cop should lose his job, face aggravated assault charges, and be punished to the fullest extent of the law!

#8 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-08-18 01:06 AM | Reply

Law enforcement officials say the woman, Martha Al-Bishara, should have followed orders.

I never want to hear any deny that we live in a Police State. The sad part is that this Police State doesn't serve a dictator or authoritarian, it merely serves itself. The cops have no idea why they do this other than to protect themselves.

#9 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2018-08-18 04:06 AM | Reply

It's like living in a cartoon. Listening to the Chief of Police not only do damage control, but praise the officers for tazing the old lady needs some Benny Hill music in the background.

#10 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-08-18 07:31 AM | Reply

Gathering greens had nothing to do with it. We all know that.
Walking outside a boys and girls club with a knife is the issue. And we all know that too.

#11 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2018-08-18 09:28 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

That cop should go to jail for assault with a deadly weapon, and for an 87 year old a taser is a deadly weapon. That he still has friends and family says reams about them, they are scum too.

#12 | Posted by danni at 2018-08-18 09:29 AM | Reply

"Walking outside a boys and girls club with a knife is the issue. And we all know that too.

#11 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE AT 2018-08-18 09:28 AM | FLAG: "

Of course this is the issue, but it does not explain why 3 large police officers could not disarm an 87 year old , 5'2" tall, confused looking woman without having to resort to using force. It speaks to the mindset of the police that "it was the lowest use of force we could have used to simply stop that threat at the time." The idea of policing without weapons just doesn't seem to be in play; I don't know if it is lack of training, lack of personal courage or simply a lack of respect for human life, but there is definitely something missing in many US police officers.

#13 | Posted by Foreigner at 2018-08-18 10:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If the flower cutter was a white cowboy, why we'd all just tip our hat to a man and his tools, enjoying nature.

#14 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2018-08-18 10:25 AM | Reply

"I don't know if it is lack of training, lack of personal courage or simply a lack of respect for human life, but there is definitely something missing in many US police officers."

My theory is that those doing the hiring are looking for the authoritarian traits in recruits.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2018-08-18 10:58 AM | Reply

#6 | Posted by jpw

#10 | Posted by madscientist

It should be noted that this idiot "chief" of police was on the scene with his GUN drawn and pointed at the dangerous old criminal.

Just in case the taser didn't take her down.

#16 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-08-18 11:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"My theory is that those doing the hiring are looking for the authoritarian traits in recruits."

My theory is that most people applying for these low paying jobs are mentally unstable. And the people doing the hiring aren't much better off.

#17 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-08-18 11:35 AM | Reply

Those jobs aren't all that low paying, the only unions supported by conservatives today are police unions who do very well for their membership. The cop who refused to enter the building to defend the kids at Marjorie Stoneman Douglas high school retired and is receiving $7000.00 per month in retirement.

#18 | Posted by danni at 2018-08-18 11:41 AM | Reply

Cull those cops. What justifies such malice?

#19 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2018-08-18 01:59 PM | Reply

"My theory is that those doing the hiring are looking for the authoritarian traits in recruits."

And then the training hones the authoritarian traits.

And that's not a theory, that's just the way it is.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-08-18 02:04 PM | Reply

"The idea of policing without weapons just doesn't seem to be in play"

Tell that to the cops that have been murdered sitting in a squad car.

#21 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2018-08-18 03:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Tell that to the cops that have been murdered sitting in a squad car."

Tell that to David Brame's wife.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-08-18 03:22 PM | Reply

"The idea of policing without weapons just doesn't seem to be in play"
Tell that to the cops that have been murdered sitting in a squad car.
#21 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE AT 2018-08-18 03:05 PM

No, explain how tasing was justified in this scenario.

#23 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2018-08-18 03:37 PM | Reply

I'd have to see the video

#24 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2018-08-18 03:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Tell that to the cops that have been murdered sitting in a squad car.

#21 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE

This situation would have changed how if they weren't armed?

Their being armed did what to change the situation?

#25 | Posted by jpw at 2018-08-18 03:43 PM | Reply

I'd have to see the video
#24 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE AT 2018-08-18 03:42 PM

TYT's report - the 911 call and the police statements do not provide adequate answers to why tasing was needed, preferred or even considered safe.

Imo, those peace keepers should lose their badges immediately. Nothing has so far convinced me they deserve to wield authority of any nature.

#26 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2018-08-18 04:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Fester does not give a crap about the video.

He's just another disingenuous, right-wing dirtbag.

#27 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-08-18 04:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This situation would have changed how if they weren't armed?
Their being armed did what to change the situation?
#25 | POSTED BY JPW

Sadly nothing would have changed.
My point is we can't expect the cops to go unarmed.

#28 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2018-08-18 04:27 PM | Reply

Fester does not give a crap about the video.
He's just another disingenuous, right-wing dirtbag.
#27 | POSTED BY ANGRYDAD

Interesting response, being as how the videos are demanded when shootings/violence takes place.
Your name does you justice. Angry

#29 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2018-08-18 04:31 PM | Reply

Phester.

I get that she was an 87 year old woman, so your natural response would have been to punch her the face.

But. For most sane, rational people, the actions of the cops went above and beyond what most people could justify as reasonable.

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-08-18 04:40 PM | Reply

"Your name does you justice. Angry"

As does yours - festering boil.

#31 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-08-18 05:13 PM | Reply

This situation would have changed how if they weren't armed?
Their being armed did what to change the situation?
#25 | POSTED BY JPW
Sadly nothing would have changed.
My point is we can't expect the cops to go unarmed.
#28 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE AT 2018-08-18 04:27 PM

The police were informed that she did not speak English. Why did the police interact with a person who is most probably exhibiting a medical condition such as dementia? Three trained professionals with their guns drawn and tasers at the ready could not detect from her age, night shirt or the bag of greens she was collecting along the biking trail that she was not stalking people. It was the size of the knife - a steak knife is too big, or does it just look so much bigger and dangerous in her crippled little old hand? They determine that she does not speak English. They also determine that she is not going to jump them and took the time to clarify their message to her. They were not threatened, there was no immanent threat and she was not angry or unwilling to be polite. Knowing all of these things, why did they then elaborately communicate by dropping a knife? She ambled forward to probably hand it to him and then HE SHOT A BARELY AMBLING, CONFUSED 87 YEAR OLD LITTLE OLD LADY SQUARELY IN HER CHEST. This looks like a deliberate attempt to explode her heart by a bigoted cabal of sh-tstain pigs, not police.

#32 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2018-08-18 05:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yes I'd say they overreacted.

#33 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2018-08-18 06:12 PM | Reply

""The idea of policing without weapons just doesn't seem to be in play"
Tell that to the cops that have been murdered sitting in a squad car.

#21 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE AT 2018-08-18 03:05 PM | FLAG: "

As my comment related specifically to the subject matter of the thread, what exactly is your point?

#34 | Posted by Foreigner at 2018-08-18 06:20 PM | Reply

phester - WTVC NewsChannel 9 - another report.

This one shows the trail is directly opposite her house, the "fence" isn't just broken, it isn't completed and there is an obvious walking trail. So if that is private property it's not maintained as such.

The very end of the report discloses something horrific - that that police DID NOT CALL EMT'S AFTER USING THE STUN GUN.

That may also constitute evidence of attempted homicide, imo.

Imagine if this were your nana? What insanity the police bring.

#35 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2018-08-18 06:53 PM | Reply

"Yes I'd say they overreacted."

Tell that to the cops that have been murdered sitting in a squad car.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-08-18 09:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Sadly nothing would have changed.
My point is we can't expect the cops to go unarmed.

You know what might have changed something?

Something being done about cops abusing citizens so that nut jobs wouldn't get angry enough to ambush them while they sit in their squad car.

#37 | Posted by jpw at 2018-08-18 11:36 PM | Reply

Cops need to learn when to stand down. Keep the body armor on and stand down.
Stay away from domestic disputes, send robots instead...because if a mad drunk screwball with a gun appears, they are expected to calm him down with candy bars.

#38 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2018-08-19 08:08 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#13 Nailed it. If you can't disarm an 87 year old woman without using a taser you have no business being a police officer.

#39 | Posted by JOE at 2018-08-19 09:04 AM | Reply

Regrettable but predictable consequence of a society that wants to control and regulate every aspect of its citizens.

#40 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-08-19 09:34 AM | Reply

#38 if you have to lie or distort a situation to make a point, you have no point.

#41 | Posted by jpw at 2018-08-19 10:15 AM | Reply

#40 | Posted by visitor_

Horse manure.

#42 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-08-19 10:42 AM | Reply

It looked like she was reaching for a straw.

#43 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-08-19 02:28 PM | Reply

"My point is we can't expect the cops to go unarmed."

That's because, thanks to the Second Amendment, we can't expect the bad guys to go unarmed.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-08-19 02:35 PM | Reply

It looked like she was reaching for a straw.

Does anyone find this joke funny?

I mainly ask because I've read other conservatives post similar things to it.

I don't get it. But. It also reinforces the notion conservatives aren't funny.

Just angry and petty.

#45 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-08-19 02:37 PM | Reply

"Regrettable but predictable consequence of a society that kisses the asses of police."

FTFY

#46 | Posted by danni at 2018-08-19 02:38 PM | Reply

Regrettable but predictable consequence of a society that wants to control and regulate every aspect of its citizens.

Is that what's happening in the state of Georgia?

Makes sense.

Conservatives are a bunch of control freaks.

#47 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-08-19 02:41 PM | Reply

Some progressives lack a sense of ironic humor.

#48 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-08-19 05:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'd bet my last dollar that the alt-right nimrods in this thread would have bigtime issues with the cops behavior if it was an old white guy in a MAGA hat getting tased!

#49 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-08-19 09:07 PM | Reply

...if it was an old white guy in a MAGA hat getting tased!

Speaking of things that will never happen.

#50 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-08-19 09:11 PM | Reply

Some progressives lack a sense of ironic humor.
#48 | POSTED BY comrade VISITOR

Not defending progressives, but other than racial jokes, Ive never met a Republican/Conservative/Libertarian/Teajadist/Talibundy/Nazi with a sense of humor. Usually just uneducated angry white males that live rent free in their "apartments" (see Mommy's basement).

#51 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-08-19 09:16 PM | Reply

Tasing a very elderly person square in the chest is ATTEMPTED HOMICIDE and not summoning an EMT subsequent to such an ASSAULT of stunning COWARDICE is AGGRAVATED ASSAULT!

The police cowards involved are PUNK CRIMINALS!!

#52 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2018-08-19 09:54 PM | Reply

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