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Sunday, August 12, 2018

Gary Rathbun rumbled into South Dakota to attend the United States' pre-eminent gathering of motorcycle enthusiasts atop his Harley-Davidson, a 2009 Ultra Classic that brought him 800 miles from Idaho. It is the 40th Harley he has owned. It will also likely be his last. Like many of Harley's most loyal customers, Rathbun was enraged by the company's announcement this summer that, because of the Trump administration's trade fight, it would begin manufacturing the bikes it sells in Europe outside the United States. ... Harley took a public relations risk to protect its bottom line when it said it would skirt European Union tariffs aimed directly at the industry in retaliation for Trump's steel and aluminum levies. Rather than eat the cost of the tariffs or raise prices on the bikes it sells in Europe by $2,200, the company said it would move some production overseas. ... The company declined to comment, but it pointed to a July interview in which its chief executive, Matthew Levatich, defended the decision. He denied that he wanted to shift its manufacturing, noting that it would not take up to 18 months to execute the plan if it were in the cards all along. "We've worked very hard to be apolitical in how we approach our business and our consumers everywhere in the world," he said. "We have to do what we have to do based on the facts and circumstances before us, and we're doing that."

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But even [Bikers for Trum founder Chris] Cox, a South Carolina chain saw artist who carves trees and other objects, could not escape the realities of global supply chains and the high cost of making some products in the United States. While he used to sell American-made T-shirts, the $20 Trump shirts he was selling outside his R.V. were made in Haiti. The American-made shirts proved to be a hard sell.

"If I get a T-shirt made in the U.S.A., it's going to cost about $8 more," Cox said. "I looked far and wide to try to get a shirt made in America, it's just they get you, they gouge you."

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i remember when Harley was in a no win situation so the AMA changed the rules..750cc flathead vs. 500cc ohv. harleys were flatheads vs. triumph, BSA, norton ohv's. KR's..that was a while back

#1 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2018-08-12 08:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I think even Americans can understand shipping costs add to the price of bikes, and making them near where they are sold may decrease cost. It's business. From the article, the bikes made in Europe will be sold there and not the US. The tariffs would be irrelevant.

#2 | Posted by Nuke_Gently at 2018-08-12 09:14 PM | Reply

As long as the Harley LiveWire electric is in showrooms next spring, I'm happy.

#3 | Posted by ajwood at 2018-08-12 09:54 PM | Reply


From what I've been reading, H-D is moving some manufacturing out of the United States because of the retaliatory tariffs that other countries are imposing due to Pres Trump's tariffs.

Pres Trump should have known that things like this would happen, yet now he acts all surprised that H-D is doing the move.

Or maybe Pres Trump didn't know this would happen, and he just carelessly imposed tariffs thinking that there would be no ramifications for what he had done.

That's the problem with trade wars, no one really wins. Businesses have to plan longer term, manufacturing facilities aren't built overnight. H-D is trying to protect its bottom line by planning for non-US facilities now. If the tariffs are taken down in a year or so, it will probably be too late for H-D to bring the manufacturing back to the US. So those jobs may be lost in the US for good.

It wouldn't surprise me to see other companies do similar things, i.e., stop making products in the United States for sale abroad.

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-08-12 10:27 PM | Reply

" If the tariffs are taken down in a year or so, it will probably be too late for H-D to bring the manufacturing back to the US. So those jobs may be lost in the US for good."

Same with soybeans. Does anyone think China will return to US providers after being forced to find other suppliers?

#5 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-08-12 10:33 PM | Reply

And all 17 bikers in this boycott will still ride their old scooters.

This is wishful thinking by someone in the White House? And more than a little authoritarian, a trait actual bikers have traditionally resisted.

WINNING?

#6 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2018-08-13 09:04 AM | Reply

Well, I guess Liberals will love this. That's more jobs for the EU who the Liberals want to take over the US. Things like this just make it easier for them.

Also, so many people have no idea what these tariffs are supposed to do. Liberals are blinded by hate and Conservatives are blinded because the rose colored glasses they are looking through aren't transparent. There are plenty of vendors HD can work with to keep costs down here in the US, but that would force them to change their relationships with vendors they have overseas. So instead of doing that and helping America, they just outsource even more in the name of profit. It's not the tariffs causing this (for most industries), it's the leadership of these companies who aren't willing to change. And, in my opinion, if they aren't willing to change to help America...bye bye bye...

#7 | Posted by humtake at 2018-08-13 12:15 PM | Reply

Well, I guess Liberals will love this. That's more jobs for the EU who the Liberals want to take over the US. Things like this just make it easier for them.

#7 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

Sorry, who put the tariffs down again? I don't think it was a Liberal.

#8 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-13 12:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There are plenty of vendors Trump Industries can work with to keep costs down here in the US, but that would force them to change their relationships with vendors they have overseas. So instead of doing that and helping America, they just outsource even more in the name of profit. It's not the tariffs causing this, it's the leadership of these companies who aren't willing to change. And, in my opinion, if they aren't willing to change to help America...bye bye bye...

#7 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE AT 2018-08-13 12:15 PM | REPLY

FTFY

And if "Liberals will love this", why have you been waving the tariff pom poms so hard lately?

#9 | Posted by bartimus at 2018-08-13 12:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#7 the liberal boogeyman hasn't been in charge since 2015 and hasn't made any of these policies.

#10 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-08-13 12:57 PM | Reply

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Well, I guess Liberals will love this. That's more jobs for the EU who the Liberals want to take over the US. Things like this just make it easier for them.

#7 | Posted by humtake

If liberals' agenda was so bad, you wouldn't have to lie about it.

You get your notion of liberals from puppets of billionaires. Those are the people you choose to trust.

How did your parents raise such a gullible fool?

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-08-13 01:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#7 | Posted by humtake

WTF is a company that is public and in business to make money - keep in mind this isn't the good ole days of stakeholder capitalism and the Virtuous Circle of Growth (look it up) this is the era of shareholder of capitalism and wedge economics that came to being the Reagan administration. Today a company is all in for itself.

#12 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-08-13 04:37 PM | Reply

As long as the Harley LiveWire electric is in showrooms next spring, I'm happy.

#3 | POSTED BY AJWOOD

That might actually draw in new customers... So don't count on it from HD.

#13 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-08-13 06:04 PM | Reply

As long as the Harley LiveWire electric is in showrooms next spring, I'm happy.
#3 | POSTED BY AJWOOD

I HAD mixed feelings about an electric harley...but then i think about the people that primarily associate with the H-D brand, and how those same people fostered much of what has become synonymous with what it means to be a harley rider..and how so many of those same folks, probably due to misunderstandings and poor representation, went to Sturgis in the Sky on an electric ride. Here's to Milwaukee..Harley-Davidson and Old Sparky

#14 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2018-08-14 12:26 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#14 | POSTED BY 1947STEAMER

That made me laugh. I've known a couple of 1%'s that left aboard the amperage express
P.S. nixon and mann vs. KR's....good times long gone

#15 | Posted by ABlock at 2018-08-14 01:21 AM | Reply

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