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Friday, August 10, 2018

Gina Haspel was confirmed by the Senate to be director of the CIA on May 17th. But the public never got to see the memos that she wrote and authorized about the brutal torture of Al Qaeda suspects at a CIA black site that she oversaw in Thailand in 2002. Until now.

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The National Security Archive filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request for the cables on April 16, 2018, after the world learned that President Trump had nominated Gina Haspel for the top job at the CIA. The Archive only learned about the cables from a footnote in the Senate Intelligence Committee torture report, which declassified in 2014. The Archive requested expedited processing for the FOIA request, a special provision of the FOIA law meant for when documents are clearly in the public interest. Expedited processing was denied and Haspel was confirmed by the Senate before they could be released.

The National Security Archive filed a lawsuit and won, leading to today's release of the documents from 2002. And despite being heavily redacted, they're pretty shocking, both for their explicit descriptions of torture, and their sometimes grotesquely poetic language to describe the scene.

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So Haspel was actually in charge of torture and we were lied to.

Surprised?

#1 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-10 03:53 PM | Reply

Nobody bothers to claim we didn't torture people anymore?

Must have bigger fish to fry, like discrediting Mueller and toadying up to Putin.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-08-10 04:22 PM | Reply

Interrogation looked like it worked in Zero Dark Thirty, maybe it worked in her cases?

#3 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-08-10 04:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Interrogation looked like it worked in Zero Dark Thirty, maybe it worked in her cases?

#3 | Posted by GOnoles92

Problem with trump supporters is the things you say in all seriousness are so stupid that it's impossible to tell when you're just joking.

#4 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-08-10 05:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 2

It's been widely reported that (1) KSM was water boarded umpteen times with no credible intel obtained, and (2) other US intel operatives were able to get much more from their subjects by treating them in a humane manner, asking the right questions and doing the legwork to confirm what they were told.

For some water boarding must have been like watching kid porn or snuff films--just a sick way to get off...

#5 | Posted by catdog at 2018-08-10 05:30 PM | Reply

I get so angry when I hear stories like this. There's a good chance you tortured an innocent person, and they confessed to end the torture. You bastard.

God I ache to send people like this to the Hague. Because that was a war crime. Does she even understand why it's important not to commit war crimes?!

Of course, we handle things differently here in the Holy Vehm, but in a fallen world it's just what you get.

#6 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2018-08-10 05:31 PM | Reply

The CIA redacted Haspel's name and those of the CIA contract psychologists James Mitchell and Bruce Jessen who administered the waterboarding, but other documents place these people at the torture sites on the relevant dates.
Headquarters thought that suspected terrorist Abd Al-Rahim Al-Nashiri had perishable threat information that he will not willingly share. Ultimately, after two months of torture, first in Thailand and then in Poland CIA interrogators concluded this was not the case.
So here you have records of un-elected personnel in the US Deep State engaged in cruel and unusual punishment. Unconstitutional behavior and NO ONE IN A POSITION TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT CARES. Furthermore, Waterboarding is a war crime under both U.S. and international law, dating back to U.S. executioin of Japanese soldiers for torturing U.S. POWs during World War II.
Haspel also oversaw the destruction of 92 videotapes of torture in 2005 because the agency calculated that blowback from the tapes being destroyed would be less catastrophic than the tapes being seen by the public.

#7 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-08-10 05:38 PM | Reply

"Haspel also oversaw the destruction of 92 videotapes of torture in 2005 because the agency calculated that blowback from the tapes being destroyed would be less catastrophic than the tapes being seen by the public."

Destroying evidence of torture was a crime against humanity for which she should have been sent to The Hague.

Too bad Obama wasn't a liberal.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-08-10 05:44 PM | Reply

Interrogation looked like it worked in Zero Dark Thirty, maybe it worked in her cases?
#3 | Posted by GOnoles92

No actually it didn't work. Torture never works to get critical information. The NAZIS proved this.

#9 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-08-10 05:45 PM | Reply

GoNoles meant torture worked to help him overcome his erectile dysfunction. Not as an intelligence gathering tool; everybody knows that doesn't work.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-08-10 06:01 PM | Reply

Interrogation looked like it worked in Zero Dark Thirty, maybe it worked in her cases?
#3 | Posted by GOnoles92

holy hallucinations batman!

In case you weren't aware...Zero Dark Thirty was a hollywood movie, not a documentary.

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-08-10 06:08 PM | Reply

Too bad Obama wasn't a liberal.

#8 | Posted by snoofy

Amen. If he had thrown some bankers in jail instead of taking their bribe money trump might not be president today.

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-08-10 06:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No Gonoles, torture doesn't work. The British had a more profitable and proficient method. They treated their POWs with kindness and got much more appropriate intelligence than through brutality.

#13 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-08-10 07:43 PM | Reply

Still waiting for Sean Hannity to be waterboarded like he claimed he would do over a decade ago. I would pay some serious cash to watch that happen in person.

#14 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-08-10 07:44 PM | Reply

No Gonoles, torture doesn't work. The British had a more profitable and proficient method. They treated their POWs with kindness and got much more appropriate intelligence than through brutality.

#13 | POSTED BY MADSCIENTIST

Gonoles is your typical alt-right rube. Thinking and common sense isn't his "thing".

#15 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-08-10 07:46 PM | Reply

---- Gina Haspell, too. That sadistic ----------.

#16 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-08-10 07:48 PM | Reply

Gonoles is partially trollin', partially taking a dump in the thread, and partially trying to augment his street cred as a bad ------------.

#17 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-08-10 08:05 PM | Reply

Dudes, it worked in the movie, and the movie is "based on a true story."
Sicut est, ita est

🙃

#18 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-08-11 02:34 AM | Reply

Just out of curiosity, how many who have posted here went through the SERE course at some point in their lives?

Anyone?

#19 | Posted by madbomber at 2018-08-11 02:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Just out of curiosity, what's the relevance of SERE training to a CIA black site, other than some attempt at argument from authority?

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-08-11 02:35 PM | Reply

here went through the SERE course

Maybe some day...which one did you go to?

#21 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-08-11 03:08 PM | Reply

So Haspel was actually in charge of torture and we were lied to.
Surprised?

#1 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2018-08-10 03:53 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

People lied to themselves. The facts were posted here and people rushed to weave fantasy out of thread's of disinformation from politicians interested in Haspel's loyalty to them over the country.

People here.

#22 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-08-12 01:18 PM | Reply

Anyone?

#19 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER AT 2018-08-11 02:28 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

I've been waiting for the Dick Cheney-signed waterboard kits to come out.

#23 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-08-12 01:19 PM | Reply

i'd like to have seen those tapes. i've often wondered if women who were involved in torture were more inclined to use kitchen utensils as information enticers...garlic press and a cheese grater might bring a boy to jesus, so to speak

#24 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2018-08-12 03:49 PM | Reply

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