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Thursday, August 09, 2018

A federal judge in New Orleans ruled on Friday that it is unconstitutional to jail people who fail to pay court-ordered fines and fees associated with their convictions without giving them a chance to plead poverty in a "neutral forum." U.S. District Judge Sarah Vance rebuked Orleans Parish Criminal District Court judges for deliberately ignoring the financial conditions of a vast majority of criminal offenders before levying additional court-related charges, then locking them up when they don't or can't pay the debts.



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About time.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2018-08-09 01:10 PM | Reply

Good. We must never be a "debtor's prison" Nation.

#2 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2018-08-09 01:39 PM | Reply

#2, we already are. Hopefully this will help change that though.

#3 | Posted by qcp at 2018-08-09 01:46 PM | Reply

Re #3


Hopefully this is a move in the right direction. But, I am sure if Humpy or his gang of Deplorables have their way this ruling will be appealed and overruled.

#4 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-08-09 02:31 PM | Reply

So penalties are now going to be determined by tax bracket?

#5 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2018-08-09 05:52 PM | Reply

What a great idea,break the law who cares no penalty. What could go wrong LOL. Figures the same people who coddle illegals breaking the law would think people don't have to pay for breaking the law. You people are insane.

#6 | Posted by patron at 2018-08-09 06:29 PM | Reply

So penalties are now going to be determined by tax bracket?

#5 | Posted by bogey1355

They already are. If you're a banker caught with coke you get a slap on the wrist. A poor person caught with crack is in much more trouble.

#7 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-08-09 09:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"So penalties are now going to be determined by tax bracket?"

That sounds fair.
$100 to a poor person is a lot more than $100 to a rich person.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-08-09 09:58 PM | Reply

So penalties are now going to be determined by tax bracket?

#5 | POSTED BY BOGEY1355 AT 2018-08-09 05:52 PM | REPLY |

Since the penalty is supposed to be a deterrent dont you think wealth SHOULD be taken into account?

How much of a deterrent is it when for the wealthy the only place it even shows up is a line item in an accountant's daily work?

#9 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-08-09 10:37 PM | Reply

A swipe against institutional racism.

CHEERS! I'm grabbing a beer!

#10 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-08-09 10:45 PM | Reply

"Finland, Home of the $103,000 Speeding Ticket"

"Most of Scandinavia determines fines based on income. Could such a system work in the U.S.?"

Yes. Of course it could.


Everyday, I watch rich punks speeding at 100 mph on I-95 because they have no fear of fines which are just inconveniences to them. Meanwhile fines are a poor person's electric bill, her rent. Fines actually do make people homeless. Decent modern societies create punishments that hurt the rich equally with the poor. Not surprisingly, the dumbest posters here don't even understand what we are talking about.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2018-08-10 09:42 AM | Reply

In America, we lock up people all the time for being poor. If you are homeless we accuse you of "illegal lodging" when you are sleeping under a bridge or near a railroad bypass. If you are going through a public trash can looking for plastic bottles to redeem you are accused of trespassing or "obstructing a business". The Penal Code is full of all these dishonestly named "crimes" whose sole purpose is to arrest, or at least roust poor people.

#12 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-08-10 11:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

A lot of places let them do community service at minimum wage to pay it off.

That said, it's a theoretical payment so they don't really get paid and don't pay taxes on it. They just calculate the hours based upon how much is owed on the fines and the minimum wage. So if the fine was $800 and the minimum wage was $8 an hour, it would be 100 hours over 6 months (usually weekends).

#13 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-10 01:44 PM | Reply

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