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Monday, August 06, 2018

Rick Gates, the star witness in special counsel Robert Mueller's fraud and conspiracy trial against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, took the stand Monday to testify that he committed crimes with his former business partner.

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Is Trump smart enough to know he can't pardon this guy?

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2018-08-06 05:13 PM | Reply

This is another way rich people avoid paying taxes. When regular folks transfer money from one to another, the recipient has to pay tax on the income received.
Rich people setup a loan. The loaner writes a secret letter saying that the loan will never be called in. The recipient spends the money but pays no tax.

SMART!

#2 | Posted by bored at 2018-08-06 05:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#1 | POSTED BY ZED

Did you see the Trump's Razor post?

#3 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2018-08-06 05:44 PM | Reply

Bye Bye Paul!

Don't let the jail cell door hit you in the butt when they slam it closed behind you.

#4 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-08-06 06:33 PM | Reply

He even admitted to embezzling the illegal Manafort accounts. So, I guess it's safest to embezzle from the accounts that no one knows about, right?

OOoooooh man, this entire clan is criminal.

#5 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-08-06 07:03 PM | Reply

Isn't this the guy that lied to the FBI? He'll be great under cross examination..

#6 | Posted by homerj at 2018-08-06 07:16 PM | Reply

"Isn't this the guy that lied to the FBI? He'll be great under cross examination.."

The prosecution didn't pick this witness. Paul Manafort picked this witness.

#7 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-08-06 07:20 PM | Reply

#7 - the prosection called Gates

#8 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2018-08-06 09:23 PM | Reply

#8

And Manafort chose Gates.

#9 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-08-06 10:32 PM | Reply

The problem for Manafort is that the jury would have to believe he is biggest shill in the history of shills to conclude he was not in on all of it. Manafort as ignorant shill? Sorry. That just is not Manafort's persona.

#10 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-08-07 12:49 AM | Reply

I'm so full. Ate too many Nothing Burgers... Goodbye Manafort.

#11 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-07 01:17 AM | Reply

Manafort's wife left the courtroom in tears the other day.

Was it because of love/loyalty for her husband? Or was it because she just found out how much money he was hiding from her, too?

Tsk, tsk, lady. The man who shares your bed is a mongrel with fleas.

Call a lawyer.

#12 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-08-07 07:42 AM | Reply

I have to feel a little bit sorry for Manafort's wife. Her life is flashing before her eyes.

She might have to go from living in her choice of mansions around the world to the equivalent of refrigerator box under an overpass.

#13 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-08-07 07:48 AM | Reply

A pardon eon't stop Mueller from subpoenaing Manafort to testify against Trump. And Manafort is dead to rights on at least one count in this trial, which will lock him up for the rest of his adult life. With all of that in mind, the only reason i can come up with for why he hasn't made a deal with Mueller is that Russians have threatened to kill his family if he flips. Perhaps the recent Novichok poisonings were a warning shot.

#14 | Posted by JOE at 2018-08-07 08:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

the only reason i can come up with for why he hasn't made a deal with Mueller is that Russians have threatened to kill his family if he flips. Perhaps the recent Novichok poisonings were a warning shot.

#14 | Posted by JOE at 2018-08-07 08:08 AM | Reply

I think this is dead on. No pun intended.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2018-08-07 08:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The man who shares your bed is a mongrel with fleas.

#12 | Posted by Twinpac at

Mongrels make great dogs but poor campaign chairmen.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2018-08-07 08:41 AM | Reply

I think we have to consider that there is precious little difference between his fear of Putin and his fear of the Russian Mob. Donald may not be a Made Man, but he's been a Mob associate for decades.

#17 | Posted by Zed at 2018-08-07 08:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Isn't this the most corrupt administration in history? Nixon was bad, Reagan was very bad, but these guys have taken it to a whole new level.

#18 | Posted by danni at 2018-08-07 08:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

this is a slam dunk against manafort, without gates' testimony. however, gates' involvement in securing a guilty verdict against manafort will lend weight to future statements in sure to come trials. remember the meeting BEFORE the don jr fiasco mtng. that giuliani revealed for the 1st time...when gates was mentioned, also for the 1st time. will gates confirm michael cohen's statement that trump new about the meeting, up front?

#19 | Posted by ABlock at 2018-08-07 11:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Isn't this the guy that lied to the FBI? He'll be great under cross examination..

#6 | POSTED BY HOMERJ

Except all the emails from Paul Manafort telling him to do exactly what it is he said he did...

Want to try again?

#20 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-07 12:21 PM | Reply

Isn't this the most corrupt administration in history? Nixon was bad, Reagan was very bad, but these guys have taken it to a whole new level.

#18 | POSTED BY DANNI

Not sure I agree.

Nixon was still worse...unless there is a lot more to the collusion story.

#21 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-07 12:22 PM | Reply

Manafort's wife left the courtroom in tears the other day.

Was it because of love/loyalty for her husband? Or was it because she just found out how much money he was hiding from her, too?

It's because she probably just realized it's all over. Everything will be taken from them in the end.

And half of nothing is nothing.

Gratz on you wonderful life choices Manaforts.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-08-07 01:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

This is what plea bargains are all about...Gates rolling on Manafort for a reduced sentence.

As I said in an earlier thread, it looks like the Prosecution is doing a good job of staying away from the Campaign, which is necessary to avoid tainting any possible indictment they may have planned for Trump or his entourage.

How this plays out remains to be seen, but we may have not heard the last from Gates if Mueller does have enough for an indictable offense against Trump or his campaign.

#23 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-08-07 02:10 PM | Reply

Gratz on you wonderful life choices Manaforts.

Once these types of scumbags get away with something once they think they are invincible. You see it over and over again when you work in major crimes prosecution.

What will be interesting is to see what, if anything, comes out about the Podesta Group and the rest of the lobbyists referred to the SDNY, who are waiting for this trial to be over before unsealing their indictments.

#24 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-08-07 02:12 PM | Reply

Gates Testifies to Being Partner in Crime

And walks free.

#25 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-08-07 02:16 PM | Reply

On second thought Sychphant, you're right. Nixon was worse, he blew up the Paris Peace talks before he was even elected and cost thousands of American lives and millions of Vietnamese lives. Doesn't get much worse than that.

#26 | Posted by danni at 2018-08-07 02:22 PM | Reply

the Prosecution is doing a good job of staying away from the Campaign, which is necessary to avoid tainting any possible indictment they may have planned for Trump or his entourage.

They also don't want Manafort's lawyers to see what they have on Trump in the first place.

#27 | Posted by JOE at 2018-08-07 02:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Gates Testifies to Being Partner in Crime

And walks free.

#25 | Posted by Sniper

He faces a maximum of ten years if it turns out he lied.

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-08-07 02:32 PM | Reply

"And walks free." - #25 | Posted by the imbecile who now holds the kill file record of 34 plonks!!!

The artist formerly known as babbles is probably jealous he was never plonked by as many individual Retort posters.

#29 | Posted by Hans at 2018-08-07 02:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Gates testimony against Manafort will ripple among dozens (perhaps hundreds) of other Manafort and Trump associates. Handwriting is on the wall. Every person for him/her self. The members of the criminal conspiracy known as the Trump Election Campaign are being exposed to light.

#30 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-08-07 03:05 PM | Reply

"which will lock him up for the rest of his adult life"

Dead pool odds on this guy being alive after 6 months in prison?

#31 | Posted by dibblda at 2018-08-07 04:45 PM | Reply

"The artist formerly known as babbles is probably jealous he was never plonked by as many individual Retort posters."

It's really a downward spiral, the louder he screams, the more people plonk him, resulting in less of a response each time. He has to scream even louder to get the same response from the remaining spectators.

Rcade has effectively created an electronic form of meth. My hat is off to you Rcade!

#32 | Posted by dibblda at 2018-08-07 05:48 PM | Reply

will gates confirm michael cohen's statement that trump new about the meeting, up front?
#19 | POSTED BY ABLOCK

i haven't heard anybody say much after rudi blurted it out. any more about this will have to wait for mueller i guess

#33 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2018-08-07 05:48 PM | Reply

31

I'll take the under.

#34 | Posted by 9mmHeater at 2018-08-07 06:27 PM | Reply

Who the hell is Rick Gates? Thought this thread was gonna be about Robert Gates and was wondering how he got pulled into this.

#35 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-08-07 10:06 PM | Reply

If we're lucky, Trump will say Rick Gates "acted stupidly."

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-08-07 10:30 PM | Reply

Who the hell is Rick Gates? Thought this thread was gonna be about Robert Gates and was wondering how he got pulled into this.
#35 | POSTED BY SENTINEL the IDIOT who doesn't know how to use GOOGLE

Richard W. Gates III (born April 27, 1972) is an American former political consultant and lobbyist who has pleaded guilty to conspiracy against the United States and making false statements. He is a longtime business associate of Paul Manafort and served as deputy to Manafort when the latter was campaign manager of the Donald Trump presidential campaign in 2016.

Gates and Manafort were both indicted in October 2017 on charges related to their consulting work with pro-Russian political figures in Ukraine. Additional charges were filed in District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia on February 21, 2018, however these charges were withdrawn on February 27, 2018, without prejudice, as agreed to in his plea bargain with Robert S. Mueller III.

References:

1. Confessore, Nicholas; Meier, Barry (June 16, 2017). "How the Russia Investigation Entangled a Manafort Protégé". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved October 30, 2017.

2. Perez, Evan; Herb, Jeremy (October 30, 2017). "Manafort, Gates charged with conspiracy against US". CNN. Retrieved October 30, 2017.

3. Breuninger, Kevin (2018-02-23). "Former Trump campaign official Rick Gates pleads guilty to lying and conspiracy against the US". CNBC. Retrieved 2018-02-23.

4 "Rick Gates, indicted in Trump-Russia probe, owns home in Richmond". WRIC. October 30, 2017. Retrieved 31 October 2017.

#37 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-08-07 10:50 PM | Reply

Manafort must be devastated to learn that his BFF and partner in crime embezzled hundred of thousands of dollars from Manafort's undisclosed foreign bank accounts.

Is there no honor among thieves any more? ~ LOL

#38 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-08-08 02:59 AM | Reply

Does anybody know? Can Manafort now press charges against Page for embezzlement?

Or are there too many worms in that can?

#39 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-08-08 04:39 AM | Reply

Does anybody know? Can Manafort now press charges against Page for embezzlement?

I doubt it but I think it is just hilarious and fitting that all the while that Manafort was ripping off the American People Gates was ripping off Manafort.

Manafort was spending so much money so fast he couldn't even track where it all was going. I sure hope they had fun cause that's all over now. And at least one of these scum bags is going away forever.

And now I can't wait until this NothingBurger is done cooking so we can get in to real meaty ground filet mignon NothingBurgers.

Now those are gonna be some tasty NothingBurgers.

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-08-08 10:34 AM | Reply

They also don't want Manafort's lawyers to see what they have on Trump in the first place.

#27 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2018-08-07 02:32 PM

Since this trial is about banking and registration actions from 2014-2016, that wouldn't be a concern for Mueller's team, what they need to worry about is testimony venturing into the campaign timeframe itself, since that is testimony under oath that could contradict any Grand Jury ("GJ") testimony they may already have. Testimony outside the GJ room is admissible in preliminary motions after charges are brought under an indictment, and could derail one if that testimony contradicts what they already have. Don't forget, there is no ability for the defense to cross-examine witnesses in front of a GJ so testimony that comes from cross in another trial is inherently more trustworthy than testimony in front of a GJ.

#41 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-08-08 02:10 PM | Reply

Does anybody know? Can Manafort now press charges against Page for embezzlement?
Or are there too many worms in that can?

#39 | POSTED BY TWINPAC AT 2018-08-08 04:39 AM

Probably not, immunity agreements in a plea bargain cover almost all testimony given as part of that agreement.

#42 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-08-08 02:12 PM | Reply

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