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Monday, August 06, 2018

President Donald Trump says he will fully enforce the sanctions being reimposed on Iran as a result of the US withdrawal from a 2015 nuclear deal. Measures targeting Iran's automotive sector as well as its trade in gold and other key metals will take effect from 00:01 EDT (04:01 GMT) on Tuesday.

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This should be fun...

#1 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-08-06 02:50 PM | Reply

The average Iranian's gonna get pissed because he ain't got no money, so his wife won't make love to him anymore and he won't be able to buy his son the GI Joe with the Kung -- grip.

#2 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-08-06 02:56 PM | Reply

Big huge mistake.

#3 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-08-06 03:00 PM | Reply

Well they can't just start bombing them for nothing.

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2018-08-06 03:02 PM | Reply

How else is Iran going to nuke Israel and fulfil biblical prophecy so the rapture can happen?
Maybe the US should just give Iran nukes to speed things up.

#5 | Posted by bored at 2018-08-06 03:07 PM | Reply

I hear drums. Time to buy Lockheed-Martin stock.

#6 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-08-06 03:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Maybe the US should just give Iran nukes to speed things up.

#5 | Posted by bored

Since Trump has reneged on the Iran Deal we have basically already given them permission to speed things up.

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-08-06 04:07 PM | Reply

Since Trump has reneged on the Iran Deal we have basically already given them permission to speed things up.

And they have around $30 Billion in unfrozen assets to get them started.

#8 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-08-06 04:12 PM | Reply

I hear drums. Time to buy Lockheed-Martin stock.
#6 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

And sell Boeing, as those orders to Iran won't be completed now. Possible buy on Airbus as well, depending on whether they follow America's lead on Iran; there are aeroplane contractual orders pending for them as well.

#9 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-08-06 08:27 PM | Reply

depending on whether they follow America's lead on Iran

Good bet they won't.

#10 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-08-06 08:32 PM | Reply

#9 | POSTED BY GONOLES92 AT 2018-08-06 08:27 PM | FLAG:

Pick up Raytheon too. They make Tomahawks. Williams International makes the engines for them. Invading Iraq used 800 of them, which is more than all previous uses of it combined.

#11 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-08-06 08:43 PM | Reply

I hear drums. Time to buy Lockheed-Martin stock.

#6 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Might as well enrich your self by supporting warmongers right?

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-08-06 08:46 PM | Reply

Might as well enrich your self by supporting warmongers right?

Isn't that the whole idea?

#13 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-08-06 08:48 PM | Reply

Good bet they won't.

#10 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2018-08-06 08:32 PM

Airbus has too many US contracts for them to jeopardize, so they may put those sales on hold as well.

#14 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-08-06 09:15 PM | Reply

Might as well enrich your self by supporting warmongers right?

#12 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2018-08-06 08:46 PM | FLAG:

You seen the price of healthcare in this country?

#15 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-08-06 09:20 PM | Reply

Airbus has too many US contracts for them to jeopardize, so they may put those sales on hold as well.

I'm sure Boeing has already picked them up, so France has little to lose.

The art of the deal and all that.

#16 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-08-06 09:26 PM | Reply

Airbus has too many US contracts for them to jeopardize, so they may put those sales on hold as well.

#14 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Doubt it. Those orders will still go through. Plus they have to cover in case Trump drops more sanctions on the EU because his French Fries were burnt or an Italian girl rejects him. They will gladly sell to Iran. The EU still supports the deal.

#17 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-07 01:16 AM | Reply

This is the most idiotic moment in the foreign policy of the United States in history. It's all based on Donald Trump's desire to destroy everything Barrack Obama accomplished. Everyone knows that. Why does the media not say that on every broadcast about his efforts. This is ---- crazy and could end up in war. A war we don't want, Russia is an ally of Iran. Playing with fire just to please a lunatic's ego. Crazy, crazy, crazy! Orange Hitler needs to be stopped.

#18 | Posted by danni at 2018-08-07 09:22 AM | Reply

Iran will now have nukes within 12 months just like before the sanctions. Thanks Donald.

#19 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-07 11:41 AM | Reply

A war we don't want, Russia is an ally of Iran.

#18 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2018-08-07 09:22 AM | FLAG:

So is Syria. It did not stop us.

#20 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-08-07 12:01 PM | Reply

The EU still supports the deal.

#17 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2018-08-07 01:16 AM

Iran will now have nukes within 12 months just like before the sanctions. Thanks Donald.

#19 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2018-08-07 11:41 AM

Which is it, DRama King? If the EU supports the deal, are the Iranians going to comply and not develop nukes or because the US pulled out are the Iranians going to "restart" developing nukes?

Can't have it both ways.

#21 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-08-07 12:12 PM | Reply

"So is Syria. It did not stop us."

We have a few skirmishes with Russians, we didn't actually start a war with them. Going into Iran would be an entirely different thing. It would be insanity. But then, that's Trump isn't it?

#22 | Posted by danni at 2018-08-07 12:50 PM | Reply

The EU still supports the deal.
#17 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT
Iran will now have nukes within 12 months just like before the sanctions. Thanks Donald.
#19 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT
Which is it, DRama King? If the EU supports the deal, are the Iranians going to comply and not develop nukes or because the US pulled out are the Iranians going to "restart" developing nukes?
Can't have it both ways.
#21 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Both. You are confusing two issues. Sorry for not clarifying.

Issue #1: Whether the EU supports the deal currently while Iran is not developing nuclear weapons.
Issue #2: Whether Iran will go back to developing nuclear weapons in the near future.

With Issue #2, the EU might pull out of the deal and reintroduce sanctions if Iran goes back to developing nuclear weapons. And Iran is very likely to go back to developing nuclear weapons if the US is successful in barring EU companies from doing business with Iran (something you corrected me on the other day when I underestimated Trump's seriousness about sanctioning the EU over it). That would not only take out the largest market in the original deal (U.S.) but also the majority of remaining markets (E.U.). So Iran would have nothing to lose by developing nuclear weapons again.

What's unclear is what Trump could possibly get that is better than what we had with inspections and cameras. I'm not even sure what Trump is asking for as part of a "better deal."

#23 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-07 01:49 PM | Reply

"I'm not even sure what Trump is asking for as part of a "better deal."

Neither does Trump. This is about Obama isulting him at the Press Club dinner a few years back. I knew it at the time that Obama had hit a nerve in Trump.

#24 | Posted by danni at 2018-08-07 01:51 PM | Reply

I wasn't the one confusing the issues, but your reasoning is sound...The EU will have to make some tough choices (which they don't want to have to make, since Iran is an increasingly large trading partner for them) and if they do knuckle under to US pressure, then you are right, Iran will openly resume development. I say openly because it is clear that both the Mossad and the CIA believe that they never stopped in the first place, just were hiding it better at facilities like Arak, Bonab, Chalus and Lavizan-3, all sites that Iran will not allow the IAEA access to.

I don't think anyone knows what a better deal looks like short of allowing open inspections at all nuclear facilities (which the IAEA strongly insisted upon as part of the Iran deal and was ignored), but Iran will never agree to that.

#25 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-08-07 02:41 PM | Reply

Going into Iran would be an entirely different thing.

#22 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2018-08-07 12:50 PM | REPLY

Russia will do what Russia has done every time the US invaded one of its allies. Sell Iran guns and training, never commit their own forces except when plausibly deniable. No regular forces, no occupational forces.

#26 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-08-07 03:10 PM | Reply

I wasn't the one confusing the issues, but your reasoning is sound...The EU will have to make some tough choices (which they don't want to have to make, since Iran is an increasingly large trading partner for them) and if they do knuckle under to US pressure, then you are right, Iran will openly resume development. I say openly because it is clear that both the Mossad and the CIA believe that they never stopped in the first place, just were hiding it better at facilities like Arak, Bonab, Chalus and Lavizan-3, all sites that Iran will not allow the IAEA access to.
I don't think anyone knows what a better deal looks like short of allowing open inspections at all nuclear facilities (which the IAEA strongly insisted upon as part of the Iran deal and was ignored), but Iran will never agree to that.

#25 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Maybe confusing issues I was speaking to in terms of tense. Now versus in the future.

I don't remember the CIA saying that. The Pentagon thought they were complying. And hiding a nuclear program is really really really hard. It just is too big and has too many moving parts.

#27 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-07 03:13 PM | Reply

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