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Thursday, August 02, 2018

This is an interesting piece about Paul Manafort with this being my favorite detail: "There's nothing passive about Manafort's presence in court. He is constantly turning to his lawyers, whispering them his thoughts, just as he might turn to an aide perched over his shoulder. He consults with lawyers on strategy, passing them notes scribbled on a yellow pad. After a lawyer returned a note, he carefully tore it up and submerged it in a coffee cup."

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... submerged it in a coffee cup ...

Water-soluble ink?

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-08-02 02:09 PM | Reply

Aww poor baby.

What does it say about trump that he so quickly hired a foreign agent like this into an important position?

Either he's in on it, or he's a fool. Which would be better? Either one proves he shouldnt be president.

#2 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-08-02 02:09 PM | Reply

Humpy's sphincter is getting so tight he is having trouble letting Pooty Poot play in there anymore.

#3 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-08-02 02:17 PM | Reply


@#2 ... What does it say about trump that he so quickly hired a foreign agent like this into an important position? ...

Didn't Mr Manafort work for candidate Trump's campaign for free?

I always wondered why someone who was so enamored with money as Mr Manafort seems to be would offer to work for free.

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-08-02 02:41 PM | Reply

I always wondered why someone who was so enamored with money as Mr Manafort seems to be would offer to work for free.

#4 | Posted by LampLighter

He was in massive debt because his fat income stream of supporting putin's henchmen dried up. He was hoping to have his debt cleared by providing influence to the russians over trump. He sought out joining trump's campaign for this purpose, and approached trump's benefactor (a REAL billionaire) named Thomas Barrack, who recommended Manafort to trump. Trump thought "well a rich evil guy recommends him, so that's good enough for me!"

#5 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-08-02 02:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Didn't Mr Manafort work for candidate Trump's campaign for free?
I always wondered why someone who was so enamored with money as Mr Manafort seems to be would offer to work for free.
#4 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Absolutely. Just like I tutored that cheerleader for "free" in biology while we were in high school...before dating her for 6 months.

#6 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-02 02:47 PM | Reply

#2 What is Manafort on trial for? I would assume you don't have a clue. And who is the lead prosecuter? Oh wait, the same guy that was at Hillary's victory/er loser party. I have no idea who Manafort is and what he has done but based on what I have read about the case he is being charged with tax evasion. And the judge is growing tired with the prosecution parading witnesses in about how much money Manafort spends on suits, home improvements, etc. The average sentance for tax evasion in this country is about a year, they are seeking over 300 for Manafort. I would assume because he worked on the Trump campaign. Newsflash to you Liberals, Hillary didn't lose because of Manafort, Hillary lost because she was a bad candidate and the people who ran her campaign were idiots. Get a clue.

#7 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-08-02 02:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

#7

Thank you for admitting your ignorance of the whole topic.

#8 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-08-02 02:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Newsflash to you Liberals, Hillary didn't lose because of Manafort, Hillary lost because she was a bad candidate and the people who ran her campaign were idiots. Get a clue.

#7 | Posted by fishpaw

News flash to you.

WE don't really care about that nonsense you just made up.

Do you?

Manafort is a criminal of the worst kind. He was a traitor to his own country for a buck.

I hope they throw The Book at him.

#9 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-08-02 02:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#8 and #9. Thank you both for not answering my question and showing you don't have a clue.

#10 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-08-02 02:56 PM | Reply

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@#7 ... What is Manafort on trial for? I would assume you don't have a clue. ...

You seem to be quite quick to make erroneous assumptions.

Good luck with that.

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-08-02 02:56 PM | Reply

Comrade Fishypaws is a Russian troll. He's just making ---- up out of thin air. The FACTS are....... Mueller and RR are REPUBLICANS, they might be the LAST of honest republicans left however.

#12 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-08-02 02:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

@#9

He was just channeling Tucker Carlson. :)

#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-08-02 02:59 PM | Reply

This guy is such a fundamental moron that his lawyers probably hate his "strategic interjections".

I look forward to him rotting in jail and then hell with the rest of the traitors to the United States.

#14 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-08-02 03:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And the judge is growing tired with the prosecution parading witnesses in about how much money Manafort spends on suits, home improvements, etc.
#7 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Dumbass, the witnesses are for the jury, not the judge. The judge being bored by the prosecution only hurts the defendant.

#15 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-08-02 03:01 PM | Reply

"What is Manafort on trial for"
"I have no idea who Manafort is"

you should try google

Manafort has been a republican operative since 1976

"Nobody should underestimate how much Paul Manafort did to really help get this campaign to where it is right now," said political consultant Newt Gingrich

#16 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-08-02 03:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Manafort is a criminal of the worst kind. He was a traitor to his own country for a buck.
I hope they throw The Book at him.
#9 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Donner, so angry.

I think we should give congratulate Manafort and give him a big high five...

in the face...

with a chair.

#17 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-02 03:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 2


@#7 ... The average sentance for tax evasion in this country is about a year, they are seeking over 300 for Manafort. I would assume because he worked on the Trump campaign. ...

I had thought that Mr Manafort was indicted on 12 counts, not just the one you cite. Another of the charges is conspiracy against the United States.

You can read the full {redacted) indictment here:
www.scribd.com

#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-08-02 03:05 PM | Reply

"Another of the charges is conspiracy against the United States."

Now... There you go again with that collusion nonsense.

How many times does Humpy have to tell you there was no collusion, no one in his campaign met with any Prussians Russians or Lussians, Humpy don't know any Russians and does not have any deals with the Russians, he said so!

And besides manafort was dealing with the Ukrainian government (which every Republican knows is in no way associated with Russia) so good luck libbies libbies libbies!

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-08-02 03:15 PM | Reply

I have no idea who Manafort is and what he has done but based on what I have read about the case he is being charged with tax evasion.

#7 | Posted by fishpaw

You're telling other people to get a clue after posting you don't know what you're talking about. Basically your fake news sources have kept you in the dark about manafort like they keep you in the dark about everything really happening in this administration.

#20 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-08-02 03:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

You can read the full {redacted) indictment here:
www.scribd.com

Different case.

The indictment for the ongoing trial for bank fraud, tax fraud, and failure to report foreign bank accounts. . www.lawfareblog.com

#21 | Posted by et_al at 2018-08-02 03:26 PM | Reply

#2 What is Manafort on trial for? I would assume you don't have a clue. And who is the lead prosecuter? Oh wait, the same guy that was at Hillary's victory/er loser party. I have no idea who Manafort is and what he has done but based on what I have read about the case he is being charged with tax evasion. And the judge is growing tired with the prosecution parading witnesses in about how much money Manafort spends on suits, home improvements, etc. The average sentance for tax evasion in this country is about a year, they are seeking over 300 for Manafort. I would assume because he worked on the Trump campaign. Newsflash to you Liberals, Hillary didn't lose because of Manafort, Hillary lost because she was a bad candidate and the people who ran her campaign were idiots. Get a clue.

#7 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

What is Paul Manafort on trial for?
Prosecutors allege Manafort hid millions he earned from the Ukrainian government to promote then president Viktor Yanukovych. Hence why they are talking about his lavish lifestyle to demonstrate he had this money when he shouldn't have been able to afford such a lifestyle.

Who is the lead prosecutor?
Andrew Weissmann. Yes, he was at Hillary's election night party. He is a prosecutor though. Whether he is a Democrat or a Republican, his job as prosecutor is to be bias against Manafort. That's literally what he is paid to do.

It's Tax Evasion?
No. It's not just tax evasion. It's money laundering. Failing to register an a foreign agent. False statements. There are literally 32 charges. It's about a ton of stuff besides tax evasion. That's the least of it.

One year potential sentence?
With 32 charges, Manafort is looking at spending the rest of his life in jail time.

Assume he worked on the Trump campaign?
He was the damn Campaign Chairman.

Hillary didn't lose because of Manafort?
I assume you mean we should not be putting him on trial for violating so many laws because he didn't cause Hillary to lose.

Your ignorance is breathtaking while you accuse others of it.

#22 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-08-02 03:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"based on what I have read about the case he is being charged with tax evasion."

In this case, yes, but the second case against him, scheduled to begin in September, could prove more interesting:

[B]ut Trump's opponents, including some in the "intelligence community", say there is a connection between the 2016 race and what happened in Ukraine. Manafort's millions came from oligarchs in Ukraine loyal to the Kremlin. If he were money laundering and cheating on his taxes, Russian intelligence and ultimately Vladimir Putin would have known. They would have had a powerful hold over him: information that could send him to jail.

This is why some intelligence sources believe that Manafort was deliberately put into the Trump campaign by the Kremlin (taking an unpaid post). It is no coincidence, the sources say, that in a later indictment drawn up by Mueller Manafort is jointly charged with his former translator and business partner in Ukraine, Konstantin Kilimnik. Kilimnik was once an officer in Russia's military intelligence service, known as the GRU. Trump's former business partner, Felix Sater, told a Congressional committee: "No such thing as a former Russian spy."

spectator.us

#23 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-08-02 03:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"In this case, yes, but the second case against him, scheduled to begin in September, could prove more interesting:"

Special Note: This is just before the November elections.

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-08-02 03:48 PM | Reply


@#23 ...This is why some intelligence sources believe that Manafort was deliberately put into the Trump campaign by the Kremlin (taking an unpaid post). ...

Bingo.

You got the reason I asked the question back in #4.

#25 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-08-02 04:06 PM | Reply

#25 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

this will help explain manaforts dilemma..and why if he roles it could put his family in line for a polonium cocktail

www.theatlantic.com

#26 | Posted by ABlock at 2018-08-02 04:29 PM | Reply


@#26

It may also be a good part of the reason why during the Republican National Convention the Republican Party platform was significantly changed (to Russia's benefit) with respect to the United States' support for Ukraine.

Didn't Mr Manafort run the RNC for candidate Trump?

#27 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-08-02 04:38 PM | Reply

#7 is very popular, utterly ridiculous post:

Filing a false tax return is a felony, whenever millions of dollars are involved. It isn't really anything more than an honest mistake, until you lie to an IRS agent.

Snipes, Eddie Ray Kahn, and Douglas P. Rosile were charged with one count of conspiring to defraud the United States and one count of knowingly making or aiding and abetting the making of a false and fraudulent claim for payment against the United States. Snipes was also charged with six counts of willfully failing to file federal income tax returns by their filing dates. The conspiracy charge against Snipes alleged that he filed a false amended return, including a false tax refund claim of over $4 million for the year 1996, and a false amended return, including a false tax refund claim of over US$7.3 million for the year 1997. But he was never convicted for this behavior, typical of alleged "freemen" like Timothy McVeigh. Snipes was sentenced to THREE YEARS in prison for willful failure to file federal income tax returns for which he served most of that sentence, after all he is black.

Snipes didn't really lie either. He made a bunch of legal arguments, which the courts have long rejected.

Leona Hemsley was investigated and convicted of federal income tax evasion and other crimes in 1989. Leona spent $8 million remodeling her $11 Connecticut Mansion. She was loath to pay her bill but eventually charged the work to her hotels. The pissed off contractors revealed this to the IRS. She received a sentence of SIXTEEN YEARS, but on appeal was required to serve only nineteen months in prison and two months under house arrest. During the trial, a former housekeeper testified that she had heard Helmsley say: "We don't pay taxes; only the little people pay taxes," an aphorism which identified her the rest of her life.

Leona is basically correct, but her case became so high profile that the Government had to make an example of her. Still, being white she got off lightly, after paying the required tax, interest and penalties.

Manafort is charged with income tax evasion on the same scale. Manafort is betting his life that Trump will pardon him, otherwise he should be pleading guilty and negotiating a deal.

#28 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-08-02 04:45 PM | Reply

#27 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

he was touted by roger stone as 'the man' when it came to vote getting and according to the trump camp, performed better than expected. remember..the only plank that was changed in the rep. platform was dealing russian intervention in crimea. that was demanded by trump.

#29 | Posted by ABlock at 2018-08-02 08:09 PM | Reply

Manafort also had more talent than Corey Lewandowsky when it came to "persuading" delegates (take that any way you want) at the convention to swing their votes for Trump.

#30 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-08-02 09:03 PM | Reply

@#21 ... Different case. ...

Yeah. I realized that after I had posted it. Too many bookmarks for this Manafort thing. :(

Thanks for the correction.

#31 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-08-02 10:52 PM | Reply

#7 is very popular, utterly ridiculous post: was required to serve only nineteen months in prison and two months under house arrest. During the trial, a former housekeeper testified that she had heard Helmsley say: "We don't pay taxes; only the little people pay taxes," an aphorism which identified her the rest of her life.
Leona is basically correct, but her case became so high profile that the Government had to make an example of her. Still, being white she got off lightly, after paying the required tax, interest and penalties.
Manafort is charged with income tax evasion on the same scale. Manafort is betting his life that Trump will pardon him, otherwise he should be pleading guilty and negotiating a deal.

#28 | POSTED BY BAYVIKING AT 2018-08-02 04:45 PM | FLAG: If it was such an utterly ridiculous post why did you basically say the same thing as I did?

#32 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-08-03 02:01 PM | Reply

Manafort also had more talent than Corey Lewandowsky when it came to "persuading" delegates (take that any way you want) at the convention to swing their votes for Trump.
#30 | POSTED BY TWINPAC

Trump's campaign had enough state delegates that there wasn't any "persuasion" necessary. I'm sure you remember that there were many Wins on the way to the general election.

#33 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-08-03 05:04 PM | Reply

He was just channeling Tucker Carlson. :)

#13 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER
Was he the guy that got his ass handed to him by John Stewart the comedian on Tucker's own show about 15 years ago???

#34 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-08-03 09:49 PM | Reply

I don't know how much of a crime it is to not report a foreign bank account, but Manafort seems undeniably guilty of that.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-08-03 10:04 PM | Reply

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