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Sunday, July 15, 2018

New details on stolen Iranian nuclear documents obtained by Israeli spies earlier this year shed light on Tehran's nuclear ambitions and show that Iran more than two decades ago had assembled the materials it needed to produce a nuclear bomb, according to multiple media reports. The information came from a trove of documents stolen from a storage facility in Tehran by agents for the Israeli by agency Mossad. Journalists for The New York Times, the Washington Post and others were invited by the Israeli government to view key documents obtained in the raid.

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Details from the stolen documents presented to reporters show that Iranian officials had discussed how to divide the nuclear program into "overt" and "covert" elements. For example, one note from an Iranian physicist recommends concealing the country's work on neutrons, which spark the chain reaction necessary to create a nuclear explosion, the Times reported.

The documents also discuss uranium deuteride, a substance used in making the devices that set off a nuclear explosion, according to the Times.

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the organization charged with inspecting Iranian facilities to ensure the government is following the terms of the 2015 nuclear deal, has repeatedly certified Tehran's compliance. But the details published in media reports on Sunday show that Iran was putting the pieces in place for a nuclear weapon.

After the Israeli heist, Iran was silent about the stolen documents and has since said that they were forged by Israel to undermine confidence in the nuclear deal.

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Israel has at least two hundred nuclear weapons. Iran would be blown off the map. Iran isn't big enough to actually fit that many nuclear strikes. But you have to admit, that does sound exactly like something Iran would think of.

#1 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2018-07-15 11:37 PM | Reply

I'm not surprised they are recirculating this now. Right after Bibi met with Putin and right before Trump meets with him. Why? The new world order those three, along with some Arab states (Saudi Arabia and U.A.E.) are planning to set up:

Donald Trump's New World Order

How the President, Israel, and the Gulf states plan to fight Iran -- and leave the Palestinians and the Obama years behind.

www.newyorker.com

Conclusion of the article:

The Palestinians seem to be the likely losers in the new New Middle East. As a senior Arab official said of the strategic alliance, "With without a peace plan, it's happening." A senior Trump adviser said, "Iran is the reason why this is all happening."

#2 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-07-15 11:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@2

I don't disagree, but it is amazing to me that Israel, the Saudis and the UAE are joining forces against Iran: even 2 years ago to even suggest a thing would have gotten you imprisoned in most of the Middle East.

#3 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-07-15 11:57 PM | Reply

#3 | Posted by Rightocenter

Check out Iranian state propaganda. America, Israel, and Saudi Arabia are now the "Triangle of Satan".

Of course, I don't see how making a propaganda statement like that that really helps your cause. In my opinion, the average Iranian would be totally aghast at what he was being told to stand up against, and probably beg the government to find some kind of peace deal. Because dying in real life really sucks and it's worse if your life was tossed away in a fight you had no hope of winning, and somebody did that to you on purpose because he was either stupid or insane.

#4 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2018-07-16 12:10 AM | Reply


... Details from the stolen documents presented to reporters ...

That's one issue I have with this... the documents were presented to reporters. Not all the documents, just cherry-picked ones that happen to make Israel's case against Iran.

How many exculpatory documents were not presented to the press?

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-07-16 09:13 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Garbage thread as per the usual these days.

#6 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-07-16 09:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#6 - yep, and it feeds the dumba** righty narrative, so like Gal said, not surprising. It even got a "funny" flag for Lamplighter's post that smartly questioned the motivations and the presentation of data.

#7 | Posted by YAV at 2018-07-16 10:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#6 - yep, and it feeds the dumba** righty narrative, so like Gal said, not surprising. It even got a "funny" flag for Lamplighter's post that smartly questioned the motivations and the presentation of data.

#7 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2018-07-16 10:09 AM | FLAG:

It's more right winged propaganda to fuel their war drum machine. It's the only time right wingers feel like such Alpha men is when they engage in war.

#8 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-07-16 10:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Laura, every thread that goes against your narrative is, in your opinion, "a garbage thread", sorry you don't like it but there are more issues out there than LGBTQ and SCOTUS.

It's called reality, deal with it.

#9 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-07-16 11:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"...sorry you don't like it but there are more issues out there than LGBTQ and SCOTUS." - #9 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-07-16 11:04 AM

And even those issues she cannot get it right.

#10 | Posted by Hans at 2018-07-16 11:06 AM | Reply

Laura, every thread that goes against your narrative is, in your opinion, "a garbage thread", sorry you don't like it but there are more issues out there than LGBTQ and SCOTUS.
It's called reality, deal with it.

POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2018-07-16 11:04 AM | REPLY

Neither issues goes to the heart of the matter. Bibi is lying to us and you're spreading those lies to fuel the right winged propaganda machine like usual these days with you and your ilk. SSDD.

#11 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-07-16 11:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#11

Nuttyahoo's administration granted the NYT and WashPo open access to the relevant documents and they came to the independent conclusion the Iran is building a bomb, sorry that troubles you so much.

#12 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-07-16 12:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

FTA
The information came from a trove of documents stolen from a storage facility in Tehran by agents for the Israeli by agency Mossad"

Exactly why I don't believe any of it.

And the same people here perpetuating this nonsense are the same ones who got duped by W. Caught with a bare hook hanging out their mouths and they never learn.

#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-07-16 12:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

FTA:
The documents provide details on Project Amad -- the code name for Iran's nuclear weapons development. That project was ordered halted in 2003, and no information provided shows that the Iranians had violated the 2015 deal with five other countries, including the U.S., to curb Tehran's nuclear ambitions.

The reason for the Iran deal was to prevent Iran from restarting its nuke program. The Dotard tore that up. Now Iran has no reason not to build nukes now.

#14 | Posted by bored at 2018-07-16 12:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Some mysterious Israeli spy has some mysteriously attained documents about Iran for warmongers and fearmongers to clamor over?

Are these scary Weapons of Mass Destruction being built on mobile bases, the way they were in Iraq?

Should we start a campaign of shock and awe? I mean, a war with Iran will probably last 3 days, maybe 3 weeks, no way it would last longer than 3 months...

#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-07-16 12:41 PM | Reply

Exactly right, Bored.

Hence this is propaganda.

#16 | Posted by YAV at 2018-07-16 12:43 PM | Reply

Notice the date:

Stunning details reveal how Israel's spy agency pulled off one of the most brazen heists in modern history
Rosie Perper Apr. 30, 2018, 10:32 PM

The White House said Netanyahu's presentation provided "new and compelling details" about Iran's past behaviours, while some experts disagreed.

"Everything he said was already known to the IAEA [International Atomic Energy Agency] and published," Jeffrey Lewis, a nuclear-policy expert at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies, tweeted.

"There is literally nothing new here and nothing that changes the wisdom of the JCPOA."
JCPOA stands for Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action and is the formal name for the Iran nuclear deal.

www.businessinsider.com

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-07-16 12:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"There is literally nothing new here and nothing that changes the wisdom of the JCPOA."

Yea, but, Israel wants a war, and they want it now!

Iran seems to be the last nation on earth who cares about the Palestinians.

This is why they are a thorn in Israel's side.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-07-16 12:51 PM | Reply

it is amazing to me that Israel, the Saudis and the UAE are joining forces against Iran

It's not that amazing. They all hate Iran and announced a partnership years ago.

What is amazing is they expect America to fight a war for them.

Israel and Saudi Arabia have bought more than enough American military to wipe out Iran on their own.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-07-16 01:10 PM | Reply

right wingers feel like such Alpha men is when they engage in war. - Lauramohr

There are plenty of women in the armed forces. Even some who were biologically male at birth who are now women, have pledged to take up arms against enemies of the state. Sorry that you missed that memo.

#20 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-07-16 02:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Intel from Israel that provides justification for Bibi to get Donny Dealmaker to do his dirty work in Iran?

I call --------.

Bibi is lots of things. Honest is not one of them.

#21 | Posted by Nixon at 2018-07-17 07:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sorry that you missed that memo.

#20 | POSTED BY GONOLES92

Did you miss the other memo that is attempting to disparage those very same people, to treat them as evil sub humans and to throw all of them out of the military?

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-07-17 11:03 AM | Reply

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