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Saturday, July 14, 2018

New guidelines implemented last week by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services say that immigrants who abuse "any program related to the reception of public benefits" will be summoned to appear before an immigration court. Immigrants will be subjected to removal procedures if there's evidence of "fraud or willful misrepresentation" in connection "with any official matter or application before another governmental agency," said the guidelines, published late last month. In those cases, immigration officials will have expanded authority to issue Notices to Appear (NTA), documents that mark the start of deportation procedures.

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Nothing the least bit fascist about this.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2018-07-13 08:33 PM | Reply

Kicking them when they are down will merely incentivize their resolve to die in the most cost-effective manner for society; these people obviously need to grow an Ayn.

#2 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2018-07-14 03:32 AM | Reply

At this point I'd advise anyone here on a green card to simply go away.

Which, of course, is exactly what the GOP wants them to do.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-07-14 03:52 AM | Reply

There are millions of green card holders doing jobs America needs them to do. What is the purpose of deporting hard working green card holders because they forgot to dot an i on some form? This is getting crazy, Trump is a lunatic and a bigot.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2018-07-14 10:33 AM | Reply

Who in Hell is going to get on a Texas roof in August to put on a new roof?

Trumpsters will NOT apply.

Count on it.

#5 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2018-07-14 01:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#5 | POSTED BY GETOFFMEDZ> Exactly!

The Republicans with their schizophrenic ideas on immigration are shooting themselves in the foot as usual.

#6 | Posted by shane at 2018-07-14 02:10 PM | Reply

You liberals are losing your minds.
This is FAR from Nazism.
What will you say when it gets worse?
You've used all your most incindiary rhetoric already.

That being said, this is starting to get crazy.

#7 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2018-07-15 08:20 AM | Reply

#7 - You seem to be an EXPERT on Nazism since you are the first to reference the word.

Want to step in for a green card holder to do his job after he is deported?

#8 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2018-07-15 09:39 AM | Reply

#7

What will I say when things get worse?

That the Nazis have made things worse.

Jeez.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2018-07-15 09:45 AM | Reply

Fascism - a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

"Nothing the least bit fascist about this." - Zed

You are correct. Using the IRS to prevent political participation of the opposition, that's an element of fascism. High levels of socialism, that's an element of fascism.

#10 | Posted by jamesgelliott at 2018-07-15 10:16 AM | Reply

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If you keep crying "Wolf!" short of a deadly attack, there ARE consequences.

Case in point here:
This is for immigrants (of all ethicities/nationalities) that are ABUSING public assistance.

Which every single liberal on here would support if (when?) and Republican official did it.

I don't like Trump on immigration but yell away, Zed.

#11 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2018-07-15 10:28 AM | Reply

Trump may be/do things that are full scale "Wolf!"

THIS is what you're blowing your load on?

#12 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2018-07-15 10:29 AM | Reply

GOP-ers wouldn't listen when I told them to chill with the cries of "Wolf " either.

So you antifa left posters are like Republicans
😂😂

#13 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2018-07-15 10:31 AM | Reply

I believe Trump is not so much deporting all the illegals or even green card holders, he's rather just putting them in a more fearful position so they will work cheaper. Realize he employs 150 immigrants at Mara Lago, he wants them to work for as little as possible causing immigrants to live in fear helps his bottom line. He is the most sadistic human being to ever occupy the WH.

#14 | Posted by danni at 2018-07-15 11:26 AM | Reply

"If you keep crying "Wolf!" short of a deadly attack, there ARE consequences."

Oh, so since we only took kids from their parents with no plans to evrr reunite them, it's too early to cry wolf.

No need to cry wolf until one of those kids is actually killed.

Thank you for explaining the workings of your moral compass to us. It is appreciated.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-07-15 11:53 AM | Reply

I don't like Trump on immigration but yell away, Zed.

#11 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2018-07-15 10:28 AM | Reply

I REALLY don't like Trump on immigration. Consider yourself yelled at.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2018-07-15 11:53 AM | Reply

#10 | Posted by jamesgelliott at

The "president" will call fascism "Trump's Army" so you can wear your black uniform without guilt.

#17 | Posted by Zed at 2018-07-15 11:55 AM | Reply

#10 | Posted by jamesgelliott at

I don't know. Maybe you'd prefer a brown uniform?

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2018-07-15 12:03 PM | Reply

What is the purpose of deporting hard working green card holders
#4 | Posted by danni

It fires up the base. Rs don't need any other reason.

#19 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2018-07-15 12:30 PM | Reply

"You are correct. Using the IRS to prevent political participation of the opposition, that's an element of fascism."

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

If you keep crying "Wolf!" short of a deadly attack, there ARE consequences.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-07-15 12:40 PM | Reply

7 - You seem to be an EXPERT on Nazism since you are the first to reference the word.
Want to step in for a green card holder to do his job after he is deported?

#8 | POSTED BY GETOFFMEDZ

That will be impossible since he is the poster formally known as Sheeple who lives in a troll/bot farm in St Petersburg, Russia. That's a hell of a commute everyday.

#21 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-07-15 06:47 PM | Reply

You are correct. Using the IRS to prevent political participation of the opposition, that's an element of fascism. High levels of socialism, that's an element of fascism.

#10 | POSTED BY Comrade JimmyG

I wouldn't expect a fascist such as yourself to know the correct definition of fascism.

Looks like you've been overdosing on InfoWars there Jimmy. You want to slow down your binge watching/consuming of said alt-right propaganda.

#22 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-07-15 06:53 PM | Reply

"Who in Hell is going to get on a Texas roof in August to put on a new roof?"

Some people in this thread sure have some special prejudices about what type of people they think are green card holders.

This was on par with "who will clean our toilets?"

#23 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-07-16 12:02 AM | Reply

"a troll/bot farm in St Petersburg, Russia"

Yeah, right, as if you don't know that Peter is an expensive city full of hipsters, and that the troll farms are located in Eastern Ukraine and Eastern Russia, where it's cheaper. Nice try, droog.

#24 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-07-16 12:10 AM | Reply

#23 - If you had a house with a roof you would not be so quick to criticize. And Sentinel, since you are concerned about who cleans my toilet, you are invited because I am not prejudiced against anyone.

#25 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2018-07-16 08:45 AM | Reply

#24 - Sentinel, you impress me with your knowledge of mother Russia demographics. You know nothing of roofing in Texas.

#26 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2018-07-16 09:07 AM | Reply

"If you keep crying "Wolf!" short of a deadly attack, there ARE consequences."
Oh, so since we only took kids from their parents with no plans to evrr reunite them, it's too early to cry wolf.

#15 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

But that's not what you are yelling about here. Here it only involves those who've abused the system

If you can't imagine how much worse it can be under a Praaident Trump, you are short-sighted.

What will you use rhetorically THEN?! When it is so much worse

#27 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2018-07-16 11:02 AM | Reply

It is a terrible shame to see people actually admonishing the administration for this. All of you need to check your personal opinions based on political party affiliation and start thinking logically. This is one of the easiest ones to illustrate how bad partisan people are. Here's the logic for those of you having issues:

The WH wants to make it illegal to be fraudulent when receiving these benefits...

"The main public benefits that immigrants with legal residence permits, known as Green Cards, can receive are: Medicaid for people with low income or disabilities; Temporary Assistance for Needy Families; Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program; Supplemental Security Income; and the Children's Health Insurance Program."

So being against this is basically saying you agree that immigrants, even legal ones, should be allowed to be fraudulent with those programs. Do you know how insane that is? American's can get jailed for doing the same thing. But Dems want immigrants to be able to do it and have no penalty.

Here's extra hypocritical logic to understand:
Dems love to use "developed nations" as their excuse for many things. Healthcare? Well, other developed nations socialize it so we should to. Guns? Other developed nations are much stricter so we should be too. Fraud? Other developed nations jail immigrants or take away their legal documents for being there so America...shouldn't???

Point is, pick and choose your battles. There are a lot of things to go against Trump. Just whining about every little thing because it helps make your case, regardless of how illogical and abstract it is, desensitizes everyone else to your complaints. Dems are ignored because everyone already knows that if something negative occurs about anything, they will be right there to go viral about how bad it is and society needs to do something about. Little Timmy can stub his toe on a tree root and people would not be surprised if Dems came out and said all trees should be destroyed (which is even more hilarious because it's true and people already know Dems will ignore one belief they vehemently defend if it doesn't support a new issue). As I've said before, if the Dems could do some soul searching and truly unite behind clear, logical beliefs, their hearts and minds will run this country. If they continue down the road they have been going down since the start of the 21st century, they will continue to be behind. I mean, this is the party that tried as hard as they could for 8 years to tell the world that if someone is black, you must like them and are never able to say anything bad about them or you are a racist. Reading that, if you still believe the Dems are headed in the right direction, you have problems.

#28 | Posted by humtake at 2018-07-16 11:45 AM | Reply

"But that's not what you are yelling about here. Here it only involves those who've abused the system"

The abuse victims here are 2,000 kids, and the abuser is Uncle Sam

"If you can't imagine how much worse it can be under a Praaident Trump, you are short-sighted."

Yeah, that's why we raise the alarm before it gets much worse.

And that's why you dismiss the alarm as making a mountain out of a molehill.

Because you want things to get much worse for immigrants under Trump. Green card holders included. Recently nationalized citizens included.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-07-16 01:11 PM | Reply

"The WH wants to make it illegal to be fraudulent when receiving these benefits."

100% false.

It's already illegal to commit fraud.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-07-16 01:13 PM | Reply

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