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Will Trump Be Meeting With His Counterpart -- Or His Handler? Tom Wright, another scholar who has delved into Trump's history, reached the same conclusion. "1987 is Trump's breakout year. There are only a couple of examples of him commenting on world politics before then." What changed that year? One possible explanation is that Trump published The Art of the Deal, which sped up his transformation from an aggressive, publicity-seeking New York developer to a national symbol of capitalism. But the timing for this account does not line up perfectly -- the book came out on November 1, and Trump had begun opining loudly on trade and international politics two months earlier. The other important event from that year is that Trump visited Moscow.

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This is a terrifying read. The chart created for this piece is a work of art.

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How do you even think about the small but real chance -- 10 percent? 20 percent? -- that the president of the United States has been covertly influenced or personally compromised by a hostile foreign power for decades?

Russian intelligence gains influence in foreign countries by operating subtly and patiently. It exerts different gradations of leverage over different kinds of people, and uses a basic tool kit of blackmail that involves the exploitation of greed, stupidity, ego, and sexual appetite. All of which are traits Trump has in abundance.

It is not difficult to imagine that Russia quickly had something on Trump, from either exploits during his 1987 visit or any subsequent embarrassing behavior KGB assets might have uncovered.

But the other leverage Russia enjoyed over Trump for at least 15 years is indisputable -- in fact, his family has admitted to it multiple times.

After a series of financial reversals and his brazen abuse of bankruptcy laws, Trump found it impossible to borrow from American banks and grew heavily reliant on unconventional sources of capital. Russian cash proved his salvation.

From 2003 to 2017, people from the former USSR made 86 all-cash purchases -- a red flag of potential money laundering -- of Trump properties, totaling $109 million.

In 2010, the private-wealth division of Deutsche Bank also loaned him hundreds of millions of dollars during the same period it was laundering billions in Russian money. "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets," said Donald Jr. in 2008.

"We don't rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia," boasted Eric Trump in 2014."

Lots more at the link

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2018-07-09 12:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Lots more cut-and-paste at the link.

#2 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-07-09 12:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Donald Trup is corrupt. Corrupt people is where find traitors.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2018-07-09 12:35 PM | Reply

#2 |

Lots more non-argument from this Trump voter.... he does seem desperate to defend Trump at any cost.

Even his former standing here as a classic liberal, which is now in shambles.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2018-07-09 12:37 PM | Reply

"In July 2013, Trump visited Moscow again. If the Russians did not have a back-channel relationship or compromising file on Trump 30 years ago, they very likely obtained one then.

Former FBI director James Comey recounts in his book that Trump was obsessed with reports that he had been recorded in a hotel room watching prostitutes urinate on a bed that Barack Obama had once slept in.

Trump, Comey wrote, "argued that it could not be true because he had not stayed overnight in Moscow but had only used the hotel room to change his clothes."

The journalists Michael Isikoff and David Corn have reconstructed Trump's trip to Moscow and established that he did in fact stay overnight."

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"This was not the only allegation Trump forcefully and implausibly denied in his early meetings with Comey. He also denied that he had offered a ---------------- star money to come to his room, grabbed a woman sitting next to him on an airplane, and mocked a disabled reporter at a rally.

The other denials have gained no credence in the media. (Indeed, the last incident was broadcast on national television.)

But Trump's dismissal of the Moscow-hotel-room allegation has been given the benefit of the doubt by most reporters, who typically describe the charge as "salacious" and "unverified," which it most certainly is, and treat that to mean "absurd," which it is not.

There is growing reason to think the pee tape might indeed exist."

lots more at the link

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2018-07-09 12:41 PM | Reply

"Inside the U.S. government there is virtual unanimity on the question of Crimea, the Ukrainian region invaded and abruptly annexed by Russia in 2014:

It was an egregious act of aggression and, as the first forcible transnational seizure of territory in Europe since World War II, should never be accepted by the United States.

There's just one exception to this consensus: President Trump."

www.washingtonpost.com

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2018-07-09 12:48 PM | Reply

There is growing reason to think the pee tape might indeed exist."

lots more at the link

#5 | Posted by Corky

Now that is funny cor. What would it take to get a picture of a russian whore pissing on a bed? $50?

#7 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-07-09 02:45 PM | Reply

#7

I don't know... how much do you charge?

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2018-07-09 02:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 9 | Newsworthy 1

Hey Nulli

Facts are still facts after you cut and paste them.

Sorry your hero turned out to be a criminal patsy

#9 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-07-09 05:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"This is a terrifying read. The chart created for this piece is a work of art."

Added by the Editorial Blog Board Powers That Be... but I agree.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2018-07-09 05:32 PM | Reply

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All kinds of gems in there, but it's a long read altogether...

"Isikoff and Corn reported that Trump and many of the people who accompanied him on the 2013 trip to Moscow had, earlier that year, visited a club in Las Vegas that regularly performed "simulated sex acts of ---------- and grotesque sadomasochism," including shows in which strippers simulated urinating.

Isikoff and Corn do not establish what kind of performance was on display the night Trump visited. It may or may not have involved bodily fluids. But the notion that a display of exotic sex acts lies totally outside the range of behavior Trump would enjoy is quaint and unfounded."

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"Since the election, Trump and his advisers have continued to act like people who have a great deal to hide. In January 2017, Cohen solicited consulting payments from a firm controlled by a Russian oligarch and, when Flynn became national-security adviser, delivered to him a "peace plan" that would have consolidated the gains from Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

In December 2016, Jared Kushner and Russia's ambassador discussed setting up a back-channel communications line through the Russian embassy. Erik Prince, the founder of Blackwater and brother of Trump's Education secretary, traveled to the Seychelles and met with a Putin ally in what European and Middle Eastern officials believe was another attempt to establish a back channel. Prince also appears to have lied to Congress about the meeting."

I know, I know... the cut and paste version is TOTALLY different than the version at the link... or not.

But some people don't have the time, or inclination, to sort out the gems... though most of this article is pretty shiny.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2018-07-09 05:43 PM | Reply

"In a Republican meeting a month before Trump clinched the 2016 nomination, the recording of which later leaked, House Speaker Paul Ryan mused about how Russia "hacked the DNC ... and, like, delivered it to who?"

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy replied, "There's two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump." When others laughed, he added, "Swear to God."

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"Last summer, Putin suggested to Trump that the U.S. stop having joint military exercises with South Korea. Trump's advisers, worried the concession would upset American allies, talked him out of the idea temporarily, but, without warning his aides, he offered it up in negotiations with Kim Jong-un.

Again confounding his advisers, he has decided to arrange a one-on-one summit with Putin later this month, beginning with a meeting between the two heads of state during which no advisers will be present.

"There's no stopping him," a senior administration official complained to Susan Glasser at The New Yorker.

"He's going to do it. He wants to have a meeting with Putin, so he's going to have a meeting with Putin."

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2018-07-09 05:56 PM | Reply

--Facts are still facts after you cut and paste them.

Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-07-09 05:10 PM | Reply | Flagged newsworthy by Corky,

How ironic that that was given a newsworthy by the queen of cut and paste. Utterly shameless.

#13 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-07-09 06:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Lots more cut-and-paste at the link.
#2 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

WTF does it matter if the info was cut and paste?

#14 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-07-09 06:59 PM | Reply

After a certain point it is no longer 'fair use'.

#15 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-07-09 07:03 PM | Reply

--After a certain point it is no longer 'fair use'.

Yep, it was stated here more than once that posters should confine themselves to a few sentences and a link, due to copyright issues.

#16 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-07-09 07:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

our own Caligula..

#17 | Posted by ABlock at 2018-07-09 07:14 PM | Reply

Yep, it was stated here more than once that posters should confine themselves to a few sentences and a link, due to copyright issues.
#16 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Glad you're so concerned about fair use policy.

Now how about addressing the point made? Or is your criticism surrounding copyright issues acquiescence that the point being made, regardless of its cut and paste nature, is accurate?

#18 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-07-09 07:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#16

DrudgeNannyFidian... who rarely deigns to bother to contribute by posting a thread... but he knows all about how to do it.

- Now how about addressing the point made?

Good luck with that. It's something else he very rarely does. Too busy trolling lefties and flagging the worst rwingers NW. He's Avigdorable with a (supposed) cap and gown these days.

But hey, anything to obfuscate and distract on a thread critical of his Trumpublican Leader.

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2018-07-09 07:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

3 posts for him so far, none of them of any substance; nothing on topic. Just his usual whiny voice.

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2018-07-09 07:35 PM | Reply

btw...

"Shortly before Trump's inauguration, according to Israeli journalist Ronen Bergman, Israeli intelligence officials gathered at CIA headquarters, where they were told something astonishing: Russia, the agency believed, had "leverages of pressure" over the incoming president.

Therefore, the agency advised the Israelis to consider the possibility that Trump might pass their secrets on to Russia. The Israelis dismissed the warning as outlandish. Who could believe that the world's most powerful country was about to hand its presidency to a Russian dupe? That the United States government had, essentially, fallen?

A few months later, Trump invited Russian diplomats into the Oval Office. He boasted to them that he had fired "nut job" James Comey. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off." At the same meeting, Trump passed on to the Russians a highly sensitive intelligence secret Israel had captured from a valuable source inside ISIS.

It was the precise danger Israel had been cautioned about."

Of course, this thread already had a couple of hefty portions of the article when it was put on the Front Page. It's a long piece, and not everyone has time to read it all.

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2018-07-09 07:41 PM | Reply

--who rarely deigns to bother to contribute by posting a thread...

I haven't posted a thread in years; I have a life, unlike professional bloggers like you. But you ahead with your 4 threads a day and imagining that you're "making a difference."

#22 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-07-09 07:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

So, 4 posts and still nothing on topic.

You going for a record?

- I have a life

lmao... you spend enough time lurking here and flagging NW the likes of rwingers like auntisocial and avigdorable... and sniper... to afford to occasionally contribute a thread or three.

But then, that might be constructive. Not something Negative Nulli is at all about.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2018-07-09 07:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Posted by Corky

I generally agree with you, but you need to exercise some restraint.

#24 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-07-09 07:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

#24

OK, I flagged that funny. Pushing the boundaries is what we libs do! Rogers can take it, even if Nervous Nellie can't.

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2018-07-09 08:26 PM | Reply

#25 | Posted by Corky

Well...alrighty, then...

#26 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-07-09 08:36 PM | Reply

Donald Trup is corrupt. Corrupt people is where find traitors. -#3 | Posted by Zed at 2018-07-09 12:35 PM
Zed, you getting enough sleep, buddy? That's a worrisome post. You have to take care of your health, man.

Avigdorable - #19 | Posted by Corky at 2018-07-09 07:33 PM |
That is adorable.

#27 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-07-09 10:07 PM | Reply

As a mid-term election strategy, painting Trump as a Manchurian candidate will not help Democrats. He's made a lot of mistakes. How about actually exposing those ? Just a thought.......
To my eyes, Trump has staked far too much on the Putin summit ; He's left himself open to Putin's manipulation. With North Korea seemingly more of a sticky wicket, Trump, being all about theatre (Helsinki, flags and photo-ops, he being an 80s type man) wants to walk from the meeting with a "win". Putin will offer to help finesse the NoKo deal since Pompeo has been labeled a "gangster". Putin may be able to convince Xi or Un himself to cut Trump some slack. Strategically, Xi has the trade brouhaha to play off the NoKo game. Xi offers NoKo money ( $ billions) for their economy whilst getting them to concede. This then has a chance of getting US troops off the Korean Peninsula.
Putin wins "man of the year", Trump wins his Nobel ( because Obama ), China becomes the preeminent power in Asia and North Korea reforms without the threat of US aggression. All hunky dory.
But it's a massive turd to polish if Trump's gambit doesn't pay off.

#28 | Posted by tunde at 2018-07-10 03:36 AM | Reply

a pretty good read about the subject...

www.alternet.org

#29 | Posted by ABlock at 2018-07-10 05:53 AM | Reply

The combination of a penchant for compromising behavior, a willingness to work closely with criminals, and a desire to protect aspects of his privacy makes Trump the ideal blackmail target. After a series of financial reversals and his brazen abuse of bankruptcy laws, Trump found it impossible to borrow from American banks and grew heavily reliant on unconventional sources of capital. Russian cash proved his salvation.

These are troubling facts, but all the rest is supposition. There is nothing to do except wait for Mueller to make his case. It would be nice if what he reveals puts Trump's Presidency at risk, but this remains uncertain.

#30 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-07-10 07:10 AM | Reply

"I haven't posted a thread in years; I have a life, unlike professional bloggers like you."

Yeah right! LOL! Keeping those kids off your lawn is not a life.

#31 | Posted by danni at 2018-07-10 08:06 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

We have a sold out traitor for a President who will soon be meeting with our NATO allies and will do everything he can to destroy our alliances then off to meet the boss. Wake up America, this guy should be behind bars.

#32 | Posted by danni at 2018-07-10 08:08 AM | Reply

Yawn.... a year and 14 million dollars wasted and not a single shred of proof... none...

But you don't need none if your infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

My favorite bumper sticker so far....

"Trump 2020 - Embrace the Horror"

#33 | Posted by Pegasus at 2018-07-10 05:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The leftists need to move on.

They remind me of the preachers playing Beetles albums backwards listening for messages from Satan.

Get some counseling and become productive members of society.

#34 | Posted by sawdust at 2018-07-11 06:02 AM | Reply

Back in the day n Korea used to demand all 6 parties at the table for peace talks. Russia was included in the 6 as Stalin was the instigator of the korean conflict....also it is US policy to buddy up to the weaker of the two between Russia and china. Foreign powers have been influencing our elections ever since we had elections. Making deals is making deals.

#35 | Posted by visiter at 2018-07-11 04:24 PM | Reply

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