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Monday, June 18, 2018

Thirty-eight percent of Americans are satisfied with the way things are going in the United States today, similar to last month's 37% satisfaction rate but marking the numerical high since a 39% reading in September 2005. The satisfaction rate, which Gallup has measured at least monthly since 2001, has now topped 35% three times this year -- a level reached only three times in the previous 12 years (once each in 2006, 2009 and 2016). Satisfaction with the nation is now back to the historical average of 37% for this trend, which was first measured in 1979, but is far below the majority levels reached in the economic boom times of the mid-1980s and late 1990s.

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*waiting for the Priorities USA mouthpieces to shout this down about how bad things are*

#1 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-06-18 02:00 PM | Reply

Looks like someone beat them to the shouting.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-06-18 02:03 PM | Reply

"far below the majority levels reached in the economic boom times of the mid-1980s and late 1990s."

Gee, really?

They need to survey more CEOs.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-06-18 02:05 PM | Reply

#1 it surprising to you that this tracks closely with the economy?

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2018-06-18 02:56 PM | Reply

*waiting for the Priorities USA mouthpieces to shout this down about how bad things are*

#1 | Posted by Rightocenter at

Things are bad. Way freaking bad. I've explained why. Poor fellow, you never follow along.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2018-06-18 02:58 PM | Reply

#1 it surprising to you that this tracks closely with the economy?

#4 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2018-06-18 02:56 PM

Not at all, hence my Priorities USA comment, since the economy is doing well, they are desperate to have voters focus on something else.

#6 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-06-18 03:29 PM | Reply

Give corps a yuge tax cut and that will juice the economy, and public perception, for a couple of quarters... until people figure out who will be making up the difference, plus interest.

Then the Dems will be back in office to clean up the mess again... and be blamed by myopic voters for how long that takes.

Same old Starve the Beast stategery, brand new orange bottle.

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2018-06-18 03:33 PM | Reply

Hey look

All the morons who don't save and over borrowed back in 2008 feel "satisfied " again
Hell, most of these people can't navigate a traffic circle and have trouble using an atm but I am supposed to feel comforted by their opinion?

Here goes the bubble/burst

#8 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-06-18 04:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 4

"since the economy is doing well, they are desperate to have voters focus on something else"

Things like the fate of individuals in an economy where "since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households."

I mean, that's only 80% of Americans. Why bother focusing on 4 in 5 Americans, RightOCenter? What could possibly be gained from that?

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-06-18 05:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Funny how when a black guy is in the white house, a bunch of americans just feel like we're headed in the wrong direction.

This poll is nothing but confirmation of how racist america is.

#10 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-06-18 11:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 3

This poll is nothing but confirmation of how racist america is.

Especially given the upward trajectory the economy took his entire tenure.

Which was simply ignored because it was impossible for him to do such a thing. Faux News told them so.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2018-06-19 12:03 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Still waiting for that blue wave?

#12 | Posted by docnjo at 2018-06-19 01:35 AM | Reply

Still waiting for that blue wave?

#12 | POSTED BY Comrade DOCNJO

The election isn't until November hilljack!

#13 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-06-19 02:23 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

#13 | Posted by aborted_monson, hilljack? You mean someone who can survive with nothing but a a few seeds and a shovel. Maybe some chickens and a couple of goats. Maybe you would be wise to appropriate a few of our skills. Everyone prepares for normal, and that never happens.

#14 | Posted by docnjo at 2018-06-19 03:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I remember when the clowns were all happy with Bush-ling... we all know how well that worked. Stupid pigs. We need to start separating the rightwingnuts from their children maybe then they will stop inbreeding at such an alarming rate.

#15 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2018-06-19 05:07 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#15 | Posted by RightisTrite WTF? And Obama had eight years to do something about it. He didn't. Might want to look at the actual statistics on ------. Hint: it's primarily an urban crime. Last I looked Philadelphia had the highest reports of that crime. People who seal with livestock understand the issues with inbreeding. Besides as I remember the American people were not satisfied with our combat action in Afghanistan, they still wanted blood- so off I went to Iraq. At least Iraq had better roads.

#16 | Posted by docnjo at 2018-06-19 05:25 AM | Reply

US Manufacturing Declined in May. May's 0.7% decline in manufacturing activity seems to have passed largely unnoticed. These data are erratic and subject to large revisions, so this is hardly an end of the world kind of number, but it certainly is not a figure consistent with the investment boom promised by proponents of the tax cut.

These are the sort of drops that are expected when there is an unusual weather event like a big snowstorm or a hurricane hitting a major population center. However, there were no such events in May,

We are being lied to as usual. Lying did not begin with Trump, but he has certainly raised the volume of it. Most Americans haven't got a clue.

#17 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-06-19 06:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#7 "Most Americans haven't got a clue"

Exactly.

#18 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-06-19 06:56 AM | Reply

38% of Americans are satisfied and 75% can't spot a fact.

Correlation or causation?

#19 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2018-06-19 07:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Especially given the upward trajectory the economy took his entire tenure.
Which was simply ignored because it was impossible for him to do such a thing. Faux News told them so. - #11 | Posted by jpw at 2018-06-19 12:03 AM

People were well informed on the status of the economy during President Obama's time in office. The expansion of the economy, the slowest post recession since WWII was widely reported on.
Here's CNN's take on it:
Yes, this is the slowest U.S. recovery since WWII

#20 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-06-19 08:13 AM | Reply

People who seal with livestock ...#16 | Posted by docnjo at 2018-06-19 05:25 AM
I guess people who seal the deal with livestock are safe from inbreeding, yes.

#21 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-06-19 08:15 AM | Reply

From the article:
"Democrats were the only major demographic group to show no increase in satisfaction. "
But don't call it partisan.

#22 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-06-19 08:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Who cares? 46% of voting Americans proved themselves fo be stupid when they elected an orange reality tv star to be president.

#23 | Posted by JOE at 2018-06-19 08:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#23 | Posted by JOE, He was already famous before he was on that stupid show. At least we wasn't knee deep in a CIA sponsored coke smuggling operation in his state while he was a governor. Hell Tom Cruz is in a new movie about it. Mena Arkansas has never been the same.

#24 | Posted by docnjo at 2018-06-19 09:52 AM | Reply

WOW. That is a slam to the o'bummer admin.

#25 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-06-19 10:24 AM | Reply

The expansion of the economy, the slowest post recession since WWII was widely reported on.

But I thought the MSM was in Obama's pocket?

In any case, two things in response.

1. The economy was still growing, people just didn't like the rate. Not a shocker given our immediate gratification society nor the hyper political environment. Which leads to

2. The flip side was Obama had to dig us out of the largest economic hole since the 1920's courtesy of "Conservative" economic policy that is currrentky in the process of being repeated but bigger and better.

So in the end, "it's not moving fast enough"is a nitpick response considering most economic indicators were at or better than pre-crash levels when Obama left office. Can you at least admit to that?

#26 | Posted by jpw at 2018-06-19 10:28 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

The economy has been improving for a decade, since the 2007 crash. Satisfaction has returned to 2006 levels. Rising satisfaction is a predictor of a bubble. Fiscal stimulus will inflate the bubble until it pops like every other time.
Smart people would want to pay down the debt now. The US will do the opposite.

#27 | Posted by bored at 2018-06-19 10:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So in the end, "it's not moving fast enough"is a nitpick response considering most economic indicators were at or better than pre-crash levels when Obama left office. Can you at least admit to that? - #26 | Posted by jpw at 2018-06-19 10:28 AM

What's to admit? The numbers are the numbers. You were the one claiming that the numbers were 'simply ignored because it was impossible for him to do such a thing. Faux News told them so.' You were mistaken and trying to make a baseless dig on the 'other side' while doing so. That deserved to be called out.

Obama's policies led us to 8 years of growth that our country and our economy badly needed. Admitting that it was weak or anemic doesn't detract from the accomplishment, it gives it context.

#28 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-06-19 10:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Well you're not the norm around here with an admission like that. I don't know how many times I read "the obummer " economy and rationales why the unemployment numbers were meaningless and blah blah blah.

Right on cue the Trumptards suddenly raved about the incredible economy (courtesy of Trump, of course) that was humming along and headed to unprecedented heights. All because of right wing economic policies that not only lead to the crash to begin with but had only been in effect for a matter of months.

#29 | Posted by jpw at 2018-06-19 11:20 AM | Reply

"Admitting that it was weak or anemic doesn't detract from the accomplishment, it gives it context."

But leaving out the economy had been crashed and was melting down misses the biggest context of all.

#30 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-06-19 11:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" I don't know how many times I read "the obummer " economy..."

Romney promised pie-in-the-sky numbers. Obama beat those promises, and the Rs argued the results sucked.

Tribalism in a nutshell.

#31 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-06-19 11:24 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

#23 | Posted by JOE, He was already famous before he was on that stupid show. At least we wasn't knee deep in a CIA sponsored coke smuggling operation in his state while he was a governor. Hell Tom Cruz is in a new movie about it. Mena Arkansas has never been the same.

#24 | Posted by docnjo

Yeah he was already famous because he inherited his daddy's name and company.

Trust fund kid, reality star, con man. That's the resume of the guy you think should lead the nation.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-06-19 11:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's much more than just the economy as to why people feel this country is moving in the right direction.

The usual suspects rationalize racism as the reason.

Perhaps, for all of his faults (and they are numerous), Trump's and the GOP's policies are far more popular than the leftism of Obama and the Democrats. 8 years of hectoring identity politics turns people off.

#33 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-06-19 11:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

BS people think with their pocket books. That's been shown over and over and over.

Why else do you think the GOP continually throws them some crumbs (with a sunset clause of course) to convince the average person to vote for them? They know, from experience, that even a short term, small boost to people's pay checks pays huge dividends in the slightly longer term.

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2018-06-19 11:37 AM | Reply

Absolutely people think with their pocket books, but it's not the ONLY factor people take into account when evaluating the direction the country is heading.

#35 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-06-19 11:51 AM | Reply

Polls like this show liberals/Democrats that their point of view isn't the only one in the nation.

Delicious.

#36 | Posted by boaz at 2018-06-19 11:57 AM | Reply

"Especially given the upward trajectory the economy took his entire tenure."

True there was no recession but growth was anemic, never reaching 3% in a single quarter.

#37 | Posted by jamesgelliott at 2018-06-19 12:03 PM | Reply

"there was no recession but growth was anemic"

Yet better than Romney promised.

IOW, the same numbers for which Obama gets trashed, Romney would have be praised, and pointed to as proof R policies work.

#38 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-06-19 12:18 PM | Reply

Perhaps, for all of his faults (and they are numerous), Trump's and the GOP's policies are far more popular than the leftism of Obama and the Democrats. 8 years of hectoring identity politics turns people off.

#33 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-06-19 11:32 AM | REPLY | FLAG

You're as dishonest as thery come. Obama was a moderate Republican. You need to thank Him for his economy not Trump. Obama is responsible for it.

#39 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-06-19 12:33 PM | Reply

Perhaps, for all of his faults (and they are numerous), Trump's and the GOP's policies are far more popular than the leftism of Obama and the Democrats. 8 years of hectoring identity politics turns people off.
#33 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Oh do enlighten us with what policies Trump has passed that are having a serious economic effect.

This ought to be good.

#40 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-06-19 12:57 PM | Reply

- The usual suspects rationalize racism as the reason.

The usual suspects survey voters in scientific studies and find out that... racism, in the form of a fear of loss of status to minorities, is indeed the reason.

#41 | Posted by Corky at 2018-06-19 01:00 PM | Reply

It's much more than just the economy as to why people feel this country is moving in the right direction.

The usual suspects rationalize racism as the reason.

Perhaps, for all of his faults (and they are numerous), Trump's and the GOP's policies are far more popular than the leftism of Obama and the Democrats. 8 years of hectoring identity politics turns people off.

#33 | Posted by JeffJ

Racists feel the country is moving in the right direction because the president is a white supremacist, even though he's handing permanent deficit-exploding tax cuts the rich and tossing temporary crumbs at them.

Businessmen feel the country is moving in the right direction because the president thinks it's ok for businesses to trash the planet, abuse workers, and scam the working class, even as the president starts a trade war that will hurt the entire economy.

The stock market is stuck at where it was when they passed the tax cuts.

Having "popular" policies has nothing to do with having good policies. Ice cream is more popular than broccoli, but only one of them is good for you.

People thinking the country is doing better under trump than under obama only shows how stupid and short sighted america is. But we learned that in 2016. America deserves this downfall. Well trump supporters do at least.

#42 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-06-19 01:14 PM | Reply

Amazing.

DR Conservatives have gone from "Polls aren't accurate" to "Polls are accurate!"

#43 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-06-19 01:23 PM | Reply

#42

michelleyarn.com

#44 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2018-06-19 01:28 PM | Reply

Oh do enlighten us with what policies Trump has passed that are having a serious economic effect.
This ought to be good.

#40 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

I said nothing about his policies' economic effect. I said it appears his policies are more popular than those of his predecessor.

#45 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-06-19 02:57 PM | Reply

#45 because people are so stupid they believe what they're trying me so long as it's wha they want to hear, even if the person saying it is robbing them blind.

#46 | Posted by jpw at 2018-06-19 02:59 PM | Reply

Smart people would want to pay down the debt now. The US will do the opposite.

#27 | Posted by bored

WTF over.......... Congress is spending someone else's money, not theirs.

#47 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-06-19 03:21 PM | Reply

#31 | Posted by Danforth

Got a link for that lie?

#48 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-06-19 03:22 PM | Reply

"Congress is spending someone else's money, not theirs."

Yours and mine.

The folks you vote for, just passed a tax bill to borrow an additional 10% of every debt we've rung up since 1776, so they could give it away (in largest part) to the world's wealthiest 1%. For the peanuts you'll get, your portion of the national debt will increase ~$11,000.

#49 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-06-19 03:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Got a link"

Why yes, yes I do.

money.cnn.com

You called me a liar. It turns out, you were too stupid to know the truth, and too lazy to research it. I'll await your retraction and apology.

#50 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-06-19 03:31 PM | Reply

Got a link for that lie?

#48 | Posted by Sniper

Dude. You know you're wrong, because you are always WRONG. Just stop.

#51 | Posted by jpw at 2018-06-19 03:34 PM | Reply

I said nothing about his policies' economic effect. I said it appears his policies are more popular than those of his predecessor.

#45 | Posted by JeffJ

Because his predecessor made the country eat its vegetables, and trump said "here's a pile of donuts covered in cocaine."

Which of those do you think is better for the future of the country REGARDLESS of which one is more "popular?"

#52 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-06-19 03:46 PM | Reply

Oh do enlighten us with what policies Trump has passed that are having a serious economic effect.
This ought to be good.
#40 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT
I said nothing about his policies' economic effect. I said it appears his policies are more popular than those of his predecessor.
#45 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

True. I apologize.

#53 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-06-19 03:54 PM | Reply

True. I apologize.

#53 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

No worries. It's all good.

#54 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-06-19 03:59 PM | Reply

Racists feel the country is moving in the right direction because the president is a white supremacist, even though he's handing permanent deficit-exploding tax cuts the rich and tossing temporary crumbs at them.
#42 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2018-06-19 01:14 PM | FLAG: Keep believing that if it makes you feel good.

www.snopes.com

#55 | Posted by MSgt at 2018-06-20 08:18 PM | Reply

#55 so because he won some award 32 years ago that negates the overt racism he has expressed over and over since starting his campaign for president?

Just how stupid are you, exactly?

#56 | Posted by JOE at 2018-06-20 08:36 PM | Reply

They shouldn't have included people that would prefer to live in the CSA. Which I imagine is about 38% these days.

#57 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-06-20 09:01 PM | Reply

#56 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2018-06-20 08:36 PM | FLAG: I forgot, you actually believe your own media.

#58 | Posted by MSgt at 2018-06-20 11:07 PM | Reply

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