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Wednesday, June 13, 2018

ABCNews Reports: As attorneys for Michael Cohen rush to meet Judge Kimba Wood's Friday deadline to complete a privilege review of over 3.7 million documents seized in the April 9 raids of Cohen's New York properties and law office, a source representing this matter has disclosed to ABC News that the law firm handling the case for Cohen is not expected to represent him going forward.

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I guess what they were reading is that bad?

#1 | Posted by jpw at 2018-06-13 11:31 AM | Reply

@1

One of my partners is a former McDermott partner, he told me last week that he had heard that they have already burned through a $100K retainer and are concerned that Cohen won't pay his bills (like his client has a habit of doing.)

Trust me, if they were getting paid, it wouldn't matter what they found.

#2 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-06-13 11:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


@#2 ... rust me, if they were getting paid, it wouldn't matter what they found. ...

Yeah, it would.

While I understand your rumor about not being paid, lawyers can and do decide to avoid cases that would not be good for themselves. There are some cases that are so egregious that they could taint the firm.

When Mr Cohen's offices were raided, I commented that Mr Cohen was toast, or something to that effect. Since then it appears his legal troubles have only gotten worse.

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-06-13 12:23 PM | Reply

I assume Trump will just pardon him at some point.

#4 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-06-13 12:35 PM | Reply


@#4

I've often had the thought that Pres Trump would pardon many of those who might flip against him (Mr Cohen and Mr Manafort come to mind the quickest in that area).

I've often mused that Pres Trump may be flexing his pardon-ability to such a large extent (~thinking about pardoning 3000 people~) to make it seem that a pardon is such a routine thing for a president to give out, to make a pardon something that is routine and quite typical.

That way, if Pres Trump does decide to pardon some potential flippers, it won't seem as bad as it might have otherwise.

The downside of being pardoned, however, is that the person pardoned loses the ability to claim the Fifth in front of a Grand Jury, since he will not be incriminating himself.

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-06-13 01:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trust me, if they were getting paid, it wouldn't matter what they found.

Hmmmmm I always figured "win" percentages would matter for high profile firms and that a lost cause would be jettisoned to avoid the baggage.

#6 | Posted by jpw at 2018-06-13 01:15 PM | Reply

I always figured "win" percentages would matter for high profile firms and that a lost cause would be jettisoned to avoid the baggage.

A national firm like McDermott doesn't worry about win percentages, they do just fine regardless of how scummy their client is so long as he/she/it pays its bills.

#7 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-06-13 01:19 PM | Reply

While I understand your rumor about not being paid, lawyers can and do decide to avoid cases that would not be good for themselves. There are some cases that are so egregious that they could taint the firm.

Having worked at Global firms, those cases are few and far between. Think "Son of Sam" or "Unibomber" over "Michael Cohen."

#8 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-06-13 01:22 PM | Reply

"Cohen, now with no legal representation, is likely to cooperate with federal prosecutors in New York, sources said. This development, which is believed to be imminent, will likely hit the White House, family members, staffers and counsels hard."

Is really the point of the article, not the motivations of scummy profit-first lawyers.

It's likely bad news for Trumpites, no matter their predilection to deflect about the lawyers.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2018-06-13 01:34 PM | Reply


Another view heard from...

Trump lawyer Michael Cohen expected to split with his attorneys
www.nbcnews.com

...President Donald Trump's embattled personal attorney, Michael Cohen, is expected to part ways with his current lawyers and hire new counsel as federal investigators continue to dig into his business dealings, a source close to Cohen told NBC News.

Cohen's split from Stephen Ryan and co-counsel Todd Harrison could signal a change in legal strategy but does not necessarily indicate that Cohen has decided to cut a deal with federal prosecutors.

Cohen has not even spoken with prosecutors involved in the inquiry, according to people familiar with the matter. Before a plea agreement, Cohen and his attorneys would need to meet with prosecutors in an organized meeting to discuss what he could offer -- sometimes called a "queen for a day" session.


So, is Mr Cohen the splitter, or the splittee?

This article seems to put him as the splitter.

#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-06-13 02:22 PM | Reply

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I don't see how he can do anything else but cut a deal. he's got massive state charges looming and those won't go away with a trump pardon.
however a deal could be worked out with mueller and state prosecutors that could answer all charges depending on the testimony he's willing to provide. i can't believe he'd go for a jury, so nolo contendere maybe? anyway he goes...no testimony then it's bye bye

#11 | Posted by ABlock at 2018-06-13 03:12 PM | Reply


... he's got massive state charges looming and those won't go away with a trump pardon. ...

I had forgotten about the state (as opposed to federal) part. Oh, that just makes it so much worse for him.

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-06-13 03:19 PM | Reply

#10

ABC News seems to forget that Cohen, as a lawyer, knows how the game is played and how deals are cut. Cohen will find new counsel before he talks to the prosecutors about any deal.

But hey, hope springs eternal for the TDS afflicted.

#13 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-06-13 03:25 PM | Reply

Absolutely Cohen knows how the game is played...and he knows that if they've uncovered enough evidence, they will indict. here's alittle somethin' else...off thread kinda' but maybe an indication of things to come

www.alternet.org

#14 | Posted by ABlock at 2018-06-13 03:45 PM | Reply

Wow, alternet with some cutting journalism that any first year law student would know about pre-trial criminal procedure. Manafort's trial starts next week, Mueller needs those subpoenas to compel witness testimony. Pretty basic stuff.

But like I said, hope springs eternal.

#15 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-06-13 03:56 PM | Reply

What no one had brought up is that all the charges against Cohen were things he did long before he dwelt with Trump or not concerning Trump at all. One does not squeeze a potato hoping to see blood.

#16 | Posted by docnjo at 2018-06-13 04:36 PM | Reply

What no one had brought up is that all the charges against Cohen were things he did long before he dwelt with Trump or not concerning Trump at all. One does not squeeze a potato hoping to see blood.

#16 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

Just lies.

First, Cohen has been Trump's attorney since the early 2000's.

Second, charges have not been filed yet.

So tell us how you know the charges were from before Trump or have nothing to do with Trump. Enlighten us.

Can't we ban you for just constantly lying? It's getting old.

#17 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-06-13 05:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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#18 | Posted by chuffy at 2018-06-13 05:34 PM | Reply

NY State is working with Mueller to take that little issue of pardons away for a lot of these guys.

IIRC, you can't pardon someone without them admitting that they're guilty, or being found guilty of a crime...am I wrong about that?

#19 | Posted by chuffy at 2018-06-13 05:36 PM | Reply

What no one had brought up is that all the charges against Cohen were things he did long before he dwelt with Trump or not concerning Trump at all.

#16 | Posted by docnjo

Lets see a link for that info so we can all laugh at the hilarious propaganda sites you get your "news" from.

#20 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-06-13 05:46 PM | Reply

But hey, hope springs eternal for the TDS afflicted.

#13 | Posted by Rightocenter

What's TDS?

Is that the condition where you're so in love with trump's authoritative hateful speeches that you forget about all the things you used to claim you cared about? Corruption, patriotism, ethics, fiscal responsibility, deficits... remember those things?

Sounds like your entire party has got a wicked case of it.

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-06-13 05:49 PM | Reply

But like I said, hope springs eternal.
#15 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Certainly not eternal for Trump or his ilk. That's truly the underlying point.

#22 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-06-13 05:53 PM | Reply

TDS = Trump Derangement Syndrome, which is aimed at the anti-Trumpers but can just as easily be equated with Trump supporters. I don't know where ROC lies, but he's clearly ignoring the latter.

That's the fun thing about truth, one way or another, it'll tear its ugly head to put one group in its place. Time will tell regarding which group that is.

#23 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-06-13 05:57 PM | Reply

they're reporting that cohen has received several hundred thousand dollars from trump campaign monies and that may be the reason he's switching lawyers...cause he wants lawyers to make a deal now and lawyers that trump is paying for can't do that and still get paid. this is so funny and just imagine the number of book deals that are out there being shopped.this presidency is just breaking all the nielsen ratings..tremendous market share..very entertaining..5 stars LOL

#24 | Posted by ABlock at 2018-06-13 08:08 PM | Reply


@#19 ... IIRC, you can't pardon someone without them admitting that they're guilty, or being found guilty of a crime...am I wrong about that? ...

That depends upon the laws for the jurisdiction. I don't know how the federal and/or NY state laws are with regard to pardoning someone who has not yet been charged, or found guilty...

#25 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-06-13 09:01 PM | Reply

Presidential pardon privileges are limited to violations of Federal Law, not State law.

#26 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-06-14 06:25 AM | Reply

So, what part of the news report is fact and what part is a damn wild guess?

#27 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-06-14 09:53 AM | Reply

All you libs said he was going to rat out Trump to the special council. You still thinking that?

#28 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-06-14 01:31 PM | Reply

"Having worked at Global firms, those cases are few and far between.
#8 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER"

People who work at "Global" firms do not capitalize "global."

Just sayin.

#29 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2018-06-14 04:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

One of my partners is a former McDermott partner, he told me last week that he had heard that they have already burned through a $100K retainer and are concerned that Cohen won't pay his bills (like his client has a habit of doing.)
Trust me, if they were getting paid, it wouldn't matter what they found.

#2 | POSTED BY Comrade RIGHTOCENTER

Just because you are the janitor at a law firm doesn't make you a "partner",
Sorry!

#30 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-06-15 12:42 AM | Reply

There is one man who knows what Mueller has or will have on Donald Trump Sr., and that's Donald Trump Sr. -- which is why he wants to shut Mueller down so bad. Trump knows what's coming.

You really think an illegal charity is the only illegality a man like Trump has engaged in? Dream on, Trumpers.

#31 | Posted by nimbleswitch at 2018-06-15 03:17 AM | Reply

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