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Tuesday, June 12, 2018

Democrats are calling President Trump's praise of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un "embarrassing" while criticizing him for offering concessions in exchange of vague promises from Pyongyang.

"In his haste to reach an agreement, President Trump elevated North Korea to the level of the United States while preserving the regime's status quo," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a scathing statement.

She said Trump had handed Kim concessions in return for "vague promises" and no "clear and comprehensive pathway to denuclearization and non-proliferation."

Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) also ripped Trump, saying on the Senate floor that the U.S. has "legitimized a brutal dictator.

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"It is worrisome, very worrisome that this joint statement is so imprecise," Schumer said. "What the U.S. has gained is vague and unverifiable at best. What North Korea has gained, however, is tangible and lasting ... We've legitimized a brutal dictator who's starved his own people," Schumer said.

Other Democrats were even harsher in their criticism.

Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii) said Trump's actions represented "an abdication of American leadership."

"Just embarrassing," Schatz (D-Hawaii) wrote in a tweet.

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"Pointing to North Korea's long record of abusing its own citizens, Cohen questioned how Trump could talk of Kim loving his country.

Steve Cohen

@RepCohen
Loves it so much that he has them impoverished and enslaved except for those he murders. Loves his country?
twitter.com ...
2:00 AM - Jun 12, 2018

Murphy said Trump was legitimizing North Korea's human rights abuses and faulted Trump for agreeing to end military exercises or "war games" with South Korea while talks with the North continue.

"U.S. gives up one of our biggest negotiating chips - military exercises. North Korea ends up BACKTRACKING on previous promises on denuclearization. What the hell?" Murphy tweeted.

Chris Murphy

@ChrisMurphyCT
Kim's gulags, public executions, planned starvation, are legitimized on the world stage.

U.S. gives up one of our biggest negotiating chips - military exercises.

North Korea ends up BACKTRACKING on previous promises on denuclearization.

What the hell?

Trump after the summit called Kim a "very talented man" who "loves his country very much," adding that it was an "honor" to meet the North Korean leader.

U.S. college student Otto Warmbier died last year after being abused during a 17-month detention in North Korea.

But when he was asked about human rights abuses on Tuesday, Trump downplayed them, saying abuses happen in "a lot of places."

"I believe it's a rough situation over there," Trump said during a press conference. "It's rough in a lot of places, by the way, not just there."

SO, like, there are good people on both sides of Kim's dictatorship?

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2018-06-12 01:12 PM | Reply

"It's rough in a lot of places, by the way, not just there."

Rough on a par with North Korea? I dunno. Somalia maybe?

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2018-06-12 01:51 PM | Reply

Tell me why we are the first ones to offer a concession?

#3 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-06-12 02:30 PM | Reply

So now Democrats are arguing in favor of constant military war games?

It's obvious that right now Democrats are stuck in reactive mode and he's dictating their behavior.

#4 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-06-12 02:50 PM | Reply

"Tell me why we are the first ones to offer a concession?"

What exactly is irreversible about the so-called concession? As far as I can tell, he's just suspending the saber rattling on their border for now.

Does anybody really think there any other options to effect change in North Korea other than either a) a military invasion and take over by other countries, or b) allow their leaders to save face and claim victory to their people while the rest of the world shrugs?

#5 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-06-12 02:55 PM | Reply

b) allow their leaders to save face and claim victory to their people

So far, the people of NK have been sold out to Kim by the rest of the world in the form of Trump.

Promises of security and protection for his dictatorship isn't what the people there were hoping for. A call for democratization and human rights would have been more appropriate.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2018-06-12 04:38 PM | Reply

Days without Trump Embarrassing America = 0

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-06-12 04:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

As far as I can tell, he's just suspending the saber rattling on their border for now.

So let's see if I have this straight.

Trump creates a crisis on the Korean border with his twitter saber rattling and so Trump has a "summit" with Kim for the sole purpose of suspending the saber rattling border crisis that Trump himself created.

So Trump and Kim signed a document where we both agree not to that and reaffirm our previous reaffirmations.

And Trump voters are all googly eyed and impressed with that.

Pure unadulterated Trump Idiocrasy.

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-06-12 05:34 PM | Reply

"A call for democratization and human rights would have been more appropriate."

How's that been working out so far?

#9 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-06-12 05:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"A call for democratization and human rights would have been more appropriate."
How's that been working out so far?

#9 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

Beats asking Kim for permission to hold military exercises with South Korea.

#10 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-06-12 05:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

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What exactly is irreversible about the so-called concession?

#5 | Posted by sentinel at 2018

The summit putting Kim on a world leader footing is an irreversible concession.

As for the rest: Kim's lying; Donald's lying. Expect a twitter war when Kim bites Donald harder than he has already. Because, you know, that's what real men do.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2018-06-12 05:57 PM | Reply

"And Trump voters are all googly eyed and impressed with that."

I couldn't care less what Trump voters are impressed with. Those here who have an attention span longer than a gnat's know that I never criticized Obama on his foreign policies, including his willingness to have a dialogue with any country. If this ends up opening a direct dialogue between the U.S. and N.K. then the people in that region will benefit in the long run. I also couldn't care less who takes credit for it, if it does happen.

#12 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-06-12 05:58 PM | Reply

"Tell me why we are the first ones to offer a concession?"

What exactly is irreversible about the so-called concession?

Posted by sentinel at

You didn't respond to the question. The answer is: Donald wants his Nobel. Which is funny, because I'm pretty sure the Swedes won't give one to a jackass.

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2018-06-12 05:59 PM | Reply

- How's that been working out so far?

It at least kept us on the moral high ground; kept us from selling out the NK people for a photo op.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2018-06-12 06:00 PM | Reply

"In his haste to reach an agreement, President Trump elevated North Korea to the level of the United States while preserving the regime's status quo," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a scathing statement"

Elevated... perhaps, while at the same time debasing the US to the NK level.

#15 | Posted by woe_is_W at 2018-06-12 08:14 PM | Reply

Hilarious. No matter what Trump does, hysterical hyperpartisans like Pelosi condemn it, One day he is a warmonger and the next day Neville Chamberlain.

Leave it to all people, Bernie Sanders, to be the voice of moderation.

Bernie Sanders: Trump-Kim summit a 'positive step'
thehill.com

#16 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-06-12 08:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"One day he is a warmonger and the next day Neville Chamberlain."

Who called him a warmonger?

He's been all about appeasement on the global stage when dealing with our historical friends and enemies alike, except for Muslims.

World leaders from China to North Korea to Russia have been appeased.

Just don't expect any appeasement if you're a poor migrant fleeing the dreaded MS-13, or if you're head of state of a NATO nation.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-06-12 08:26 PM | Reply

16: Sanders tweet said:
"While very light on substance, the meeting between President Trump and Kim Jong Un in Singapore represents a positive step in de-escalating tensions between our countries, addressing the threat of North Korea's nuclear weapons, and moving toward a more peaceful future," Sanders said in a statement.

Ok, sure, it is a positive step compared to resorting to personal insults toward Kim as Trump had been doing which would be more likely to lead to war. This is hardly high praise for Trump.

#18 | Posted by woe_is_W at 2018-06-12 08:29 PM | Reply

The summit putting Kim on a world leader footing is an irreversible concession.

Yeah, its not like North Korea hasn't been it's own sovereign nation for over 70 years...

#19 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-06-12 08:31 PM | Reply

Beats asking Kim for permission to hold military exercises with South Korea.

#10 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2018-06-12 05:56 PM

Do you really think that is what Trump did? I thought you were less drama driven than that.

#20 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-06-12 08:32 PM | Reply

#16

You are awfully chipper for someone who was howling for North Korean blood "before it's too late!!1" in thread after ugly thread on that country's nuclear program.

#21 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-06-12 08:43 PM | Reply

19: NK has basically been a client state of the Soviet Union and China for almost all of its existence.

#22 | Posted by woe_is_W at 2018-06-12 08:45 PM | Reply

It's obvious that right now Democrats are stuck in reactive mode and he's dictating their behavior.

Informing the relevant parties prior to making the concession would have been preferred.

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2018-06-12 10:01 PM | Reply

"Tell me why we are the first ones to offer a concession?"

We always here about how hungry and starving the North Koreans are, so it seems like a kind thing to do to pick something up for them at the concessions stand.

On a more serious note, some people were bitching about why Kim should trust Trump after he broke the Iran agreement. Making these tentative concessions (which actually mean little to US but a lot to them) up front sends a signal that the US is serious, as is the talk of ratifying an actual treaty as opposed to a non-binding agreement.

#24 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-06-12 10:41 PM | Reply

- so it seems like a kind thing to do

Talking about how a dictator who starves his own people "loves his country and his people" is the kind thing to do? Guaranteeing his security in power is kind to them?

The NK people were sold out by Trump and his sycophants.

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2018-06-12 10:51 PM | Reply

Cancelling Ulchi Freedom Guardian (the military exercise) is exactly what Russia has been calling for for years.
China is pleased as well. So pleased they announced it before Trump told anyone. Anyone being our Military or South Korea.
www.businessinsider.com

The Pentagon is proceeding as if Trump's remark was, well, as credible as his other tweets and off-the-cuff remarks. They're proceeding until an official order to cancel is given.

We have a President that no one believes, that's a chronic liar, and sells out the US at every opportunity.

Yay.

#26 | Posted by YAV at 2018-06-12 11:01 PM | Reply

#25, you sound like a ------- neocon, claiming you stand with the Iranian/Korean/_____ people while giving their leaders more ammunition to be paranoid of military invasion and crack down harder on their people.

#27 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-06-12 11:05 PM | Reply

This just in:

Air Force One is shipping the White House Sinks to North Korea.

Film at 11

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-06-12 11:26 PM | Reply

#27 you've become a joke.

The punch line of the joke goes like this: Otto Warmbier is still dead.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-06-12 11:44 PM | Reply

#27 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

Actual neocon approves of guaranteeing the NK people starvation and oppression under the same dictatorship for decades to come.

'What the -----?' Trump-Kim lovefest ignores human rights nightmare

In Singapore this week, Trump warmly embraced that so-called madman.

He called Kim a "smart" and "funny guy" who "loves his people." He predicted the two of them would have a "terrific relationship." Trump told reporters that human rights had come up only briefly, but he gave no indication that he had confronted Kim about Warmbier's death, whose precise cause remains unclear.

Chris Murphy

@ChrisMurphyCT

Kim's gulags, public executions, planned starvation, are legitimized on the world stage.

U.S. gives up one of our biggest negotiating chips - military exercises.

North Korea ends up BACKTRACKING on previous promises on denuclearization.

What the -----?
8:17 AM - Jun 12, 2018

"Talking to dictators is one thing; embracing them is another," former Vice President Joe Biden said in a statement, denouncing "the horrendous human rights abuses North Korea's leaders perpetrate against their own people."

"It was really over the top and excessive," added Sarah Margon, Washington director for Human Rights Watch.

#30 | Posted by Corky at 2018-06-13 12:08 AM | Reply

#30, have you been hijacked by a bot? That was an incoherent copy and paste mess.

#31 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-06-13 02:19 PM | Reply

"the horrendous human rights abuses North Korea's leaders perpetrate against their own people."

I believe Sentinel when he says he doesn't understand what that means.

Sentinel doesn't thunk it's a human rights abuse to break apart refugee families and send them to separate internment camps, for example.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-06-13 02:24 PM | Reply

Now if only obama [during his 8 years] had of dealt with N.Korea instead of a buddy/buddy visit with Raul Castro, the left here would not have to be in a tizzy about president Trump dealing with them. Problem is that obama and his administration had to ideal how to deal with N.Korea so just left the, 'on the table' for the next president to handle it.

#33 | Posted by MSgt at 2018-06-13 09:07 PM | Reply

#30, have you been hijacked by a bot? That was an incoherent copy and paste mess.

#31 | POSTED BY SENTINEL AT 2018-06-13 02:19 PM

That's all Dorky ever does.

#34 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-06-13 10:17 PM | Reply

*the inevitable "Lawyers Sans Arguments" retort coming in 3...2...1*

#35 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-06-13 10:19 PM | Reply

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