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Saturday, June 09, 2018

President Donald Trump says he may pardon another late heavyweight boxing champion -- this time, Muhammad Ali. Trump tells reporters he's looking at "thousands of names" of people who could be granted clemency. "I'm thinking about Muhammad Ali," Trump told reporters when asked about future pardons. Not everyone was thrilled by the move. In a statement, Rev. Al Sharpton said Trump's "consideration of posthumous pardoning Muhammad Ali is nothing more than grandstanding and Muhammad Ali's conviction, which was overturned in 1971, was based upon his beliefs and his religion and Trump can begin honoring by stopping engaging in anti-Muslim and Islamophobic policies and rhetoric. You can't stand up for Islam while simultaneously denigrating it."



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Some vids that a lot people have prolly never seen.

Muhammad Ali discusses the word black 1968 (2 min)


Firing Line with William F. Buckley Jr.: Muhammad Ali and the Negro Movement


Muhammad Ali in Newcastle (1977) - Rare


Muhammad Ali Amazing Speech About Life (excerpt from Newcastle interview)


ok, a lot of people saw this one...

Muhammad Ali Funeral | Billy Crystal Imitates Ali


#1 | Posted by Corky at 2018-06-09 02:17 AM | Reply

"It was 49 years ago Thursday when an Army officer in Houston summoned Muhammad Ali three times to step forward for induction into military service during the Vietnam War, and the heavyweight world champion refused each request.

"Looking back on this requires you to immerse yourself back in the time. At the time he made the decision, nobody had gone against a U.S. war – 99% of the public were for the war," said veteran fight promoter Bob Arum, who helped broker a deal one year earlier that allowed Ali to skirt a ban in Chicago and fight George Chuvalo in Toronto.

As appeals were made to keep him out of jail, and the fighter rejected overtures for a compromise to enlist, the stripped champion at his peak was kept out of the ring from March 22, 1967, until Oct. 26, 1970.

It didn't matter that an appointed examiner, Lawrence Grauman, had previously met with Ali privately and concluded that his objection was sincere. That was strangely overruled by an FBI probe.

And it didn't matter that attorney Arthur Krim, the head of United Artists and the Democratic Party treasurer, met with President Lyndon Johnson to secure a proposed military service arrangement preferential to Ali.

"Ali wouldn't even have to put his uniform on," said Arum, who worked in Krim's firm. "He'd just give a couple [boxing] exhibitions at a couple military bases and would be able to continue fighting as a professional. Ali, after a famous meeting with a lot of black athletes, including Jim Brown, turned it down. He wasn't afraid of combat. There was no chance he would be in combat. His decision was completely principled. He gave up a lot by doing it." excerpts


#2 | Posted by Corky at 2018-06-09 03:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump is such a blatant douche-bag ... he takes shamelessness, crassness, tokenism, bait and switch, pandering (and myriad of other things) to levels that are just simply vomit-inducing gross.

#3 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-06-09 10:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I think he should pardon Ali anyway. Allah blesses the generous.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2018-06-09 11:55 AM | Reply

Wait until the Trump supporting morons find out that Trump just pardoned a Muslim (see Ali).

Their racist little pea-brains will explode.

#5 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-06-09 07:49 PM | Reply

Trump is such a blatant douche-bag ...
#3 | Posted by PinchALoaf

Unless you're an R or a Moscow troll. Then he's great. Last I heard he as at 87% approval among the few remaining Rs.

#6 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2018-06-09 08:21 PM | Reply

Actually a very nice/polite fellow. Decades ago [back in the 70s] my previous wife and family lived about a mile from his home in Cherry Hill and one day while taking a walk she and I came across him out on his front lawn and he said hello as we walked by. Chatted a few minutes [about nothing in particular other than about living in the neighborhood] and then continued on as he went about his chores. Still remember his friendly smile.

Funny that prior to that meeting, as I was a young Sergeant in the Air Force I 'despised' his stance, that is until I actually met him and after that decided that 'what the heck' people are just people, whatever their beliefs.

#7 | Posted by MSgt at 2018-06-09 09:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


#8 | Posted by fresno500 at 2018-06-09 11:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Does anyone doubt that Ali would turn down a pardon offer if he could? Accepting it would be an admission of having done a wrong, which he certainly didn't believe or he wouldn't have refused induction in the first place. I hope Ali's family openly rejects the very idea of it, whether Trump makes it officially happen or not.

#9 | Posted by nimbleswitch at 2018-06-10 07:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Ali did time out of moral conviction his sentence was commuted and he is now dead.

His family is right that he has no need for a pardon from a creep with no morals.

#10 | Posted by Tor at 2018-06-10 05:27 PM | Reply

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