Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Thursday, May 17, 2018

Rex Tillerson spent 10 years as CEO of ExxonMobil before Donald Trump tapped him to be secretary of state, only to fire him from the position 14 months later. On Wednesday, he delivered a commencement address at the Virginia Military Institute, where he warned graduates that their democracy is in peril.

Advertisement

Advertisement

More

Comments

Admin's note: Participants in this discussion must follow the site's moderation policy. Profanity will be filtered. Abusive conduct is not allowed.

Thread already up... with better headline

www.drudge.com

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2018-05-17 01:29 AM | Reply

These headlines are, like, from high school newspapers.

------- Millennials still don't even know what the word trolled means.

#2 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-05-17 01:57 AM | Reply

FTR:

Author is not a millenial.

en.wikipedia.org

#3 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-05-17 02:05 AM | Reply

#3, I know, I was just demonstrating the proper usage of the term. :-)

The article does seem like it's pandering a younger audience, though.

#4 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-05-17 02:46 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

"The article does seem like it's pandering a younger audience, though."

No, it's just ignoring the fossils who elected Trump despite his obvious intellectual disabilities and his emotional immaturity. I suspect that millenials understand the word "trolled" better than us boomers, they live with trolls every day on platforms we don't even bother with. As I always say, when I don't understand something about the internet I just ask my grandson.

#5 | Posted by danni at 2018-05-17 07:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The sign of a weak people is the desire for a 'strong' hand to guide them, and a willingness to sacrifice freedoms and democratic protections to get it.

#6 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-05-17 11:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4


From fmr Sec of State Tillerson's speech:

...

An essential tenet of a free society, a free people, is access to the truth. A government structure and a societal understanding that freedom to seek the truth is the very essence of freedom itself. "You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free." It is only by fierce defense of the truth and a common set of facts that we create the conditions for a democratic, free society, comprised of richly diverse peoples, that those free peoples can explore and find solutions to the very challenges confronting the complex society of free people.

If our leaders seek to conceal the truth or we as people become accepting of alternative realities that are no longer grounded in facts, then we as American citizens are on a pathway to relinquishing our freedom. This is the life of nondemocratic societies, comprised of people who are not free to seek the truth.
...


Those words ring strong, especially when an official of the Trump administration has boasted about using "alternative facts" to counter verifiable facts.

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-05-17 11:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Those words ring strong, especially when an official of the Trump administration has boasted about using "alternative facts" to counter verifiable facts.

#7 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2018-05-17 11:17 AM | FLAG:

Yes, and this is why it's important for the media, Democrats, independents and honest Republicans to keep hounding Trump relentlessly, because he is a habitual liar. His pronouncements on Twitter and in everyday speeches and conversation are all the proof rational people need to know he cannot be trusted. The damage he is doing to America intensifies as we grow fatigued by the daily battles and become inured to the constant diet of lies and half-truths. But we have to stand strong and keep fighting. Trump and his comrades, both foreign and domestic, have created an atmosphere in which truth is optional, where everyone can claim their own version of the facts and reasoned arguments are pointless.

How can you develop consensus--and thereby enact effective laws and policies--when you disregard the truth so willingly? This is about more than mere partisanship. It's a matter of integrity.

#8 | Posted by cbob at 2018-05-17 12:01 PM | Reply

As long as the media is free to report whatever they want, there can be no truth. As long as politicians can spread falsehoods without repercussion, there can be no truth.

#9 | Posted by Tribunal at 2018-05-17 12:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"As long as the media is free to report whatever they want, there can be no truth."

Even you don't believe that.

#10 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-05-17 12:20 PM | Reply

Advertisement

Advertisement

As long as Americans are more concerned with getting news/information that's what they want to hear rather than the truth....they'll get what they want to hear.

#11 | Posted by eberly at 2018-05-17 12:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Exactly, Eberly.
The sentiment in #9, re: media, is chilling.
Like your thought - as long as Americans don't hold politicians responsible, truth will be a casualty.

#12 | Posted by YAV at 2018-05-17 12:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The sign of a weak people is the desire for a 'strong' hand to guide them, and a willingness to sacrifice freedoms and democratic protections to get it.

#6 | Posted by moder8

Sounds a lot like the quote attributed to Ben Franklin but I agree. Only fools like authoritarians and totalitarians.

#13 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-05-17 12:55 PM | Reply

"or we as people become accepting of alternative realities that are no longer grounded in facts, then we as American citizens are on a pathway to relinquishing our freedom."

We have been on this path for 500 years.

Fake news is as American as George Washington's Cherry Tree.

We are a people that has committed themselves over the last half century to a collective delusion.

Trump is a fitting leader for a nation that has, over the centuries, nurtured a "promiscuous devotion to the untrue."

The following is from

FANTASYLAND
How America Went Haywire: A 500-Year History
By Kurt Andersen
462 pp. Random House.

Fake news. Post-truth. Alternative facts. These are not momentary perversions but habits baked into our DNA, the ultimate expressions of attitudes "that have made America exceptional for its entire history." The country's initial devotion to religious and intellectual freedom has over the centuries morphed into a fierce entitlement to custom-made reality. So your right to believe in angels and your neighbor's right to believe in U.F.O.s and Rachel Dolezal's right to believe she is black lead naturally to our president's right to insist that his crowds were bigger.

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-05-17 01:00 PM | Reply

As long as the media is free to report whatever they want, there can be no truth. As long as politicians can spread falsehoods without repercussion, there can be no truth.

#9 | POSTED BY TRIBUNAL

I agree entirely. But getting rid of Fox News is nearly impossible.

#15 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-05-17 01:27 PM | Reply

As long as Americans are more concerned with getting news/information that's what they want to hear rather than the truth....they'll get what they want to hear.

#11 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2018-05-17 12:30 PM | FLAG:

A random stranger and I had this conversation just the other day. Started out with him describing himself as a big Trump supporter and why, 30 minutes later, it ended with us agreeing there is not enough value placed in cognitive dissonance these days. Echo chambers are profitable enterprises now, so when the vice is available, people will embibe. That's why I truly appreciated those Jon Stewart vs. O'Reilly debates. There's not enough of that anymore, however, CNN offers an effort. I really feel for those Trump supporters getting ganged up on ever day. But at least there's room on CNN for that aspect. Tough to find elsewhere and sure as hell wont find on Hannity anymore. He used to have guests on and try to take them to task, but I think he got his ass handed to him too many times. Now he does a monologue and interviews Trump sycophants. Drastic cognitive dissonance for the likes of me, however, which is the only reason I continue to watch. I find value in challenging my own notions of truth and perspective, even if they come from the likes of Hannity.

#16 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-05-17 06:38 PM | Reply

#16 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11 AT 2018-05-17 06:38 PM | FLAG:

I can't stand Hannity. He's a hack, a disingenuous, self-important manipulator. He has no interest in truth, only partisan harangues.

I agree with your broader point about the need to challenge our own positions. That's actually big reason why I come to the DR. There are at least a few to the right of center here whose opinions I respect, even when I disagree. But Hannity? Never.

#17 | Posted by cbob at 2018-05-18 09:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Rex Tillerson Warns We Are Losing Our Freedom

At least we still have the Freedom to shoot each other.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-05-18 02:07 PM | Reply

Comments are closed for this entry.

Home | Breaking News | Comments | User Blogs | Stats | Back Page | RSS Feed | RSS Spec | DMCA Compliance | Privacy | Copyright 2018 World Readable

Drudge Retort