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Thursday, May 17, 2018

Within hours of opening an investigation into the Trump campaign's ties to Russia in the summer of 2016, the F.B.I. dispatched a pair of agents to London on a mission so secretive that all but a handful of officials were kept in the dark. Their assignment, which has not been previously reported, was to meet the Australian ambassador, who had evidence that one of Donald J. Trump's advisers knew in advance about Russian election meddling. After tense deliberations between Washington and Canberra, top Australian officials broke with diplomatic protocol and allowed the ambassador, Alexander Downer, to sit for an F.B.I. interview to describe his meeting with the campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos. Their report helped provide the foundation for a case that, a year ago Thursday, became the special counsel investigation. But at the time, a small group of F.B.I. officials knew it by its code name: Crossfire Hurricane.



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All the Trump lies and smears about the FBI are coming home to roost as the truth finally comes out.

About time.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-05-16 05:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 5

"Senator Marco Rubio, Republican of Florida, said that after studying the investigation as a member the Senate Intelligence Committee, he saw no evidence of political motivation in the opening of the investigation.

"There was a growing body of evidence that a foreign government was attempting to interfere in both the process and the debate surrounding our elections, and their job is to investigate counterintelligence," he said in an interview. "That's what they did."

Rwingers are about to bring out the Clinton case as "the same thing or worse"... but the article tears that stupid meme a new arse.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2018-05-16 05:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Little Marco was emasculated so thoroughly by Trump, it made all the Little Marco supporters realize who the Alpha Dog is.

It's kinda funny. It's like beating up some wimpy kid and stealing his girlfriend. The Beta Base looks up to a man who can do that. They realize they can't fight a man like that so they better become toadies if they know what's good for them.

Anyway, this just proves the Deep State exists, and has been trying to bring down Trump even before he got elected... According to Trumpers and Never Trump toadies, anyway.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-16 05:29 PM | Reply

Jesus, we have been all through this! The ambassador turned out to be a Hillary puppet! Why does ridiculous stupid crap like this even keep getting regurgitated? For one, this is old news, and for another, he was part of the coup plot from the very beginning!

And the article quotes Strzok over and over again. Do you know what happened to Strzok and why he and his lover, Lisa Page, had to resign from the FBI? Note that the story doesn't even cover that part! And it's accusations are all lies that Strzok himself started!

I honestly can't believe you people. It's like Pavlov's dog around here when it comes to Trump lies dreamed up by the traitors!

And listen to this testimonial:

For Mr. Steele, it dashed his confidence in American law enforcement. "He didn't know what was happening inside the F.B.I.," Glenn R. Simpson, the founder of Fusion GPS, testified this year. "And there was a concern that the F.B.I. was being manipulated for political ends by the Trump people."

WTF?! The exact opposite is true, and anyone who has ever used a non-google search to find out about Fusion GPS and its reputation as a hit squad (read the testimonials of it's victims, from countries all over the Earth!) knows that they are paid to lie, and very highly!


#4 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2018-05-16 11:34 PM | Reply

"The coup plot..."


Rata helia, you make me laugh out loud so hard it's not even funny.

#5 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-05-16 11:39 PM | Reply

"Non Google search..."

What, you mean like yahoo???


#6 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-05-16 11:40 PM | Reply

Christopher Wray, today. You know, the guy Trump appointed to replace Comey:

NBC News @NBCNews

Sen. Leahy: "You said at your confirmation hearing that the Russia investigation was not a witch hunt...Is that still your opinion?"

FBI Director Christopher Wray: "Yes"

3:31 PM - 16 May 2018


#7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-05-16 11:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

The FBI (including the right's whipping boy Peter Strzok) took incredible pains to keep existence of the Trump investigation confidential to the point of walling off DOJ officials they thought might leak the explosive details. Quite the complete opposite of an institution with a political vendetta against President Trump as many try to imply.

Any anti-Trump information had a shelf life that expired on or slightly before election day 2016. If the allegations since revealed were to derail Trump's election they had to be used before, not after the election. Even Steele himself couldn't force the dossier's accusations into the public realm before the election so it's nonsensical to now claim all this was done to hurt Trump's chances when it was never used at the time it would have had the most damning impact.

#8 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-05-17 08:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is potentially very damaging and damning of the FBI and the DOJ.

#9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-17 11:27 AM | Reply | Funny: 2


In what way?

#10 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-05-17 12:06 PM | Reply

"This is potentially very damaging and damning of the FBI and the DOJ."

More likely damaging to the Trump administration.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2018-05-17 12:22 PM | Reply

The FBI and CIA colluded with Hillary and her campaign to spy on Trump, but they're good guys at heart because they felt bad about it.

#12 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-05-17 12:23 PM | Reply


An informant is not the same as a spy. Typically, an informant approaches law enforcement and tells them of witnessing possible criminal behavior or LEO approaches them due to their position and asks whether they've witnessed anything untoward, and LEO then monitors future interactions. If there is no root criminal behavior, then the informant is useless. It seems implausible that the FBI would plant a spy at the same time they bent over backward to keep any whiff of the investigation from becoming public.

All the hand wringing about the canard of investigating Trump in order to help Hillary flies in the face of simple logic and history: With all that has been uncovered that was KNOWN before the election, ZERO came out nor was used to actually HELP HILLARY when it counted! You don't start a biased investigation that uncovers inflammatory allegations and then NOT use them! Barking up that tree is incredibly stupid. Oppo research is to be used, not sat on until it has no value.

The fact that Comey allowed information about Weiner's laptop to become public when he did but not a peep about Trump's corrupted campaign members and contacts with foreign officials came out, shows exactly who was protected and who was roasted on a spit.

#13 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-05-17 12:42 PM | Reply

Felix Sater is a long time FBI informant, a Trump business partner, a childhood friend of Cohen and someone who partnered with Cohen to try to get a Trump Tower built in Moscow. Just sayin'.

#14 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-05-17 01:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


First thought out of my head too. We know the players too well Gal.

#15 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-05-17 01:06 PM | Reply

yawn.... it's all an Investi-cation... it's not like the FBI has any real work to do.

"Investi-cation" is a term I coined. Investigation + Vacation

It means a Federal activity on which important department heads near retirement age get to spend Millions of tax dollars staying at Swanky hotels, eating expensive foods and sharing time with the most expensive hookers and in the end have nothing to show for it.

#16 | Posted by Pegasus at 2018-05-17 04:51 PM | Reply

"First thought out of my head too."

Soviet-born Donald Trump adviser Felix Sater: 'Send 'em to jail' if Robert Mueller finds collusion

Sater, 52, says that for the past two decades he has served as a high-level intelligence asset for the DIA, CIA and the FBI. As first reported this week by Buzzfeed News, Sater has helped bust mafia families, capture cybercriminals and pursue top terrorists -- including Osama bin Laden -- earning praise from some of the country's top law enforcement officials.

He won't say whether or not he's been interviewed by the special counsel, but it's almost certain that Mueller knows his body of work well. He served as FBI Director for much of Sater's clandestine career.


#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-05-17 04:57 PM | Reply


TrumpRats in denial.

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2018-05-17 06:16 PM | Reply

Funny thing is these Trumphumpers were the ones crying Benghaaaaaaaziiiiii. 4 years of investigation found NOTHING! .......and I cannot stand Hillary.

One year and numerous indictments, plea bargains, and admissions of guilt and the alt-right rubes want to shut it down Mueller's investigation claiming it's a witch hunt, LOL.

Well troglodytes, if it's a which hunt, Bobby M is finding a crap load of witches.

When are you alt-right troglodytes going to be like Mueller and put "country ABOVE political party"?

#19 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-05-18 12:46 AM | Reply

It's kind of sad to see the Grey Lady so obviously burying the lede in this article, but that is what they have become reduced to in their effort to stay afloat.

#20 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-05-18 12:54 AM | Reply

Oh come on, ROC! Don't make me read the article!

You f*****g tease.

#21 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-05-18 01:26 AM | Reply


"The largest Witch Hunt in history[,save for the Salem Witch Trials, of course]!" -- POTUS Trump

#22 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-05-18 01:28 AM | Reply

Anybody else notice US policy towards Qatar fluctuated based upon the business dealings between Qatar controlled investment group and Jared Kushner's family's company?


#23 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-05-18 02:02 AM | Reply


The Republican Party should be held responsible for every single grift that Trump and his extended family have perpetrated since his inauguration. Our government and its policies have become part and parcel tools to be used for the benefit of Trump Inc. instead of the American people and our own global interests and security.

Under normal circumstances, this naked scandal in plain sight would obviously bring down any administration caught dealing for their own personal interests. Today, it hardly merits more than a passing mention while the tsunami of breaking news regarding this administration continues to flow.

Utterly shameful.

#24 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-05-18 11:20 AM | Reply

Jim Sciutto @jimsciutto

New: "Informant" Trump & Giuliani have been railing about was NOT planted inside the campaign to provide information to investigators, US officials tell me & my colleagues @ShimonPro @LauraAJarrett. Informant is an American but identity closely held at highest levels.
7:37 AM - 18 May 2018

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-05-18 11:29 AM | Reply

The "Informant" was not a spy but was a whistleblower.

#26 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2018-05-18 01:43 PM | Reply

IOW, he/she was already on the inside.

#27 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2018-05-18 01:43 PM | Reply

The "Informant" was not a spy but was a whistleblower.

#26 | Posted by WhoDaMan

Of course, he/she was. If he/she even existed at all. Which I seriously doubt.

This is just another Red Herring created by Trump to send everyone down another rabbit hole.

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-05-18 02:13 PM | Reply

If he/she even existed at all. Which I seriously doubt.

The FBI says he/she does.

#29 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2018-05-18 02:24 PM | Reply

The FBI says he/she does.

#29 | Posted by WhoDaMan

link? I don't see that in the article... but I may have missed it.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-05-18 02:36 PM | Reply

Although the "source" is being called a US citizen with a long time association with federal law enforcement, wouldn't it be wild if they were connected to Russia, perhaps as a double agent? (Meaning that the reported conversations alleged to have occurred with Trumpers happened under the belief the Trumpers were talking to someone with sympathies to Russia, not knowing they were informants to US law enforcement)

Man, that would be the ultimate kick in the keister cementing the case of collusion and crime of conspiracy against the US.

#31 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-05-18 08:37 PM | Reply

NY Times knows who the informant is but hasn't released the name:

In fact, F.B.I. agents sent an informant to talk to two campaign advisers only after they received evidence that the pair had suspicious contacts linked to Russia during the campaign. The informant, an American academic who teaches in Britain, made contact late that summer with one campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, according to people familiar with the matter. He also met repeatedly in the ensuing months with the other aide, Carter Page, who was also under F.B.I. scrutiny for his ties to Russia.


#32 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-05-18 09:16 PM | Reply

More from NY Times article:

Details about the informant's relationship with the F.B.I. remain scant. It is not clear how long the relationship existed and whether the F.B.I. paid the source or assigned the person to other cases.

The informant is well known in Washington circles, having served in previous Republican administrations and as a source of information for the C.I.A. in past years, according to one person familiar with the source's work.

#33 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-05-18 09:21 PM | Reply

Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney

WOW: Sen @MarkWarner says it could be "potentially illegal" for members of Congress to use their positions to out an FBI source to undermine the Russia probe.


#34 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-05-18 09:32 PM | Reply

Trump is still in the command of the narrative for his base, but it must be wavering. His supporters do so in the face of Trump's dishonesty and infidelity with his own wife, it's a fascination of mine to see how long it lasts. Numerous institutions are countering Trump's version of the narrative. How much longer can he continue the sherade?

#35 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-05-18 10:35 PM | Reply

Was there really a spy inside the Trump campaign, as the president says?

The professor who met with both Page and Papadopoulos is Stefan Halper, a former official in the Nixon, Ford and Reagan administrations who has been a paid consultant to an internal Pentagon think tank known as the Office of Net Assessment, consulting on Russia and China issues, according to public records.

No evidence has surfaced publicly indicating that Halper was acting as a government informant. He did not respond to an NBC News request for comment. But the Daily Caller noted that right-wing media personalities have speculated about his role in recent days.


#36 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-05-18 11:03 PM | Reply

"Was there really a spy inside the Trump campaign, as the president says?"


The President is a Liar.


#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-05-19 09:56 AM | Reply

In what way?


That the FBI was spying on Americans in a counter-intelligence investigation, for starters.

That this was leaked by government officials to a friendly media (which was only happy to put as positive spin as possible on this) outlet just days before a potentially damning IG report is to be released speaks volumes.

It's reminiscent of Lois Lerner answering a planted question just days before an IG report was to be released of the IRS targeting conservative 501-3 (c) groups applying for tax exempt status.

Who knows? Maybe the IG report ends up being a nothing-burger. I doubt it though, just ask Andrew McCabe.

#38 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-19 04:27 PM | Reply

"That the FBI was spying on Americans in a counter-intelligence investigation, for starters."

How do you think they caught Johnathan Pollard you half-wit?

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-19 04:36 PM | Reply

They weren't conducting a criminal investigation, Snoofy. It was a counter-intelligence investigation which is the investigation of foreign operatives, not domestic.

#40 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-19 08:45 PM | Reply

They weren't conducting a criminal investigation, Snoofy. It was a counter-intelligence investigation which is the investigation of foreign operatives, not domestic.

POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-05-19 08:45 PM | REPLY

So??? The FBI is world wide baby.

#41 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-05-19 08:49 PM | Reply

It was a counter-intelligence investigation which is the investigation of foreign operatives, not domestic.

Jeff, you seem to be smarter than that. How do you investigate foreign operatives and not the Americans they are talking to? How do you find out what they are trying to do?

#42 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2018-05-20 01:14 PM | Reply

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