Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Tuesday, May 15, 2018

The United States blocked a United Nations (UN) Security Council statement drafted Monday that called for an independent investigation into the deaths of at least 58 Palestinians along the Israeli-Gaza border. Monday's violence followed several weeks of mass protests in the Israeli-blockaded territory of Gaza, which is governed by militant Islamist group Hamas. The unrest coincided with the opening of the U.S. embassy in Jerusalem, a Donald Trump administration directive widely condemned by the international community.

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Truth Justice and the American Way (the denial of truth and justice)

#1 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-05-15 05:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Disgusting.

#2 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2018-05-15 07:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Of course we blocked a probe into deaths we were responsible for causing.

There's nothing the rest of the world can do about it.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-05-15 07:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Good.

Don't hold your breath waiting for the corrupt, America hating, Israel hating UN to "probe" Hamas terrorism.

#4 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-15 07:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Don't hold your breath waiting for the corrupt, America hating, Israel hating UN to "probe" Hamas terrorism.
#4 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Wow. Your Trumpublican speak is almost as good as Boaz's, or Sniper's.

Andreà would be proud.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-05-15 07:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Good.
Don't hold your breath waiting for the corrupt, America hating, Israel hating UN to "probe" Hamas terrorism.

#4 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-05-15 07:18 PM | FLAG:

Why do you hate transparency and accountability? Oh, that's right: because you are an embittered burnout who subsists in a diet of AM radio and cheap grass.

#6 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-15 07:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Let's face it, We (the US) are the ***holes of the world.

#7 | Posted by bat4255 at 2018-05-15 07:32 PM | Reply

Let's face it, We (the US) are the ***holes of the world.

#7 | POSTED BY BAT4255

And thats what the Trumphumpers like. Meanness has become a political ideology for Republicans, they champion hurting people. You know, just like Jesus commanded them.

#8 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2018-05-15 07:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

"Let's face it, We (the US) are the ***holes of the world."

Sure looked like it today at the UN and then Nikki Haley walked out when the Palestinian Ambassador stood up to speak. Everyone, around the world, knows that what we did to Palestine and that the Israelis, with our help, are going to occupy all of it. There is no room for a two state solution because Israel intends to be one big state and to drive out the inhabitants who have been there for centuries. Some of us just aren't as willing as other to pretend that it isn't wrong and we are even expected to consider the humanity of the Palestinians as unimportant compared to the Israelis. They shot and killed 60 unarmed people yesterday yet we still consider them to be an ally. Ally my ass, the Israelis wouldn't allow one drop of their blood to be spilled defending America, we're just their enabler.

#9 | Posted by danni at 2018-05-15 07:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Not much on history, are we here?

The US has used its veto power 43 times since 1972 to protect Israel at the UN, including 7 times during the Obama administration (with the last vote being an abstention by the US on a settlement resolution that Obama had once before vetoed in 2011).

Interestingly enough, the POTUS who abstained the most on anti-Israel resolutions...wait for it...was Reagan, who abstained 7 times.

#10 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-05-15 08:52 PM | Reply

Yeah, but, Obama abstained because it was the right thing to do. Apples/Oranges. Less evil/evil. Why don't you understand? Because evil.

Signed

DR Toolshed

#11 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-05-15 09:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Yeah, but, Obama abstained because it was the right thing to do. Apples/Oranges. Less evil/evil. Why don't you understand? Because evil.

Signed

DR Toolshed

#11 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Hey stupid. Why is this happening right now? Because trump moved the embassy. Did obama do that?

A hundred people are dead now because of what trump did. Not obama. Not hillary.

Yet you keep covering for trump. Why is that? Paid, or just dumb?

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-05-15 09:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#12 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Actually, it's because of what Hamas did.

#13 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 11:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Gazan Boasts to NPR About Driving Israelis ‘Crazy' by Putting Swastikas on Firebomb Kite: ‘We Want to Burn Them'

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#14 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 11:38 AM | Reply

Actually, it's because of what Hamas did.

#13 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-05-16 11:31 AM | FLAG:

Shame on them for protesting, right?

#15 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 11:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#14

Amazing how people react when you bottle them up, bulldoze their homes, and shoot them down in the street.

#16 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 11:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Throw a rock at a fence, get shot by a sniper.

Sounds fair.

Canadian doctor attempting to treat the wounded were shot by Israeli snipers. They got what the deserved in boot licker world. www.cbc.ca

#17 | Posted by 726 at 2018-05-16 11:45 AM | Reply

Hamas turns away truckloads of Israeli humanitarian aid destined for Gaza

Hamas turned away two large truckloads of Israeli humanitarian aid intended to relieve medical shortages in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday.

The IDF said it coordinated the transfer of eight truckloads of vital medical equipment through Israel's Kerem Shalom crossing due to severe humanitarian conditions in the Hamas-controlled enclave, exacerbated by two days of violent clashes on the Gaza-Israel border.

www.jpost.com

The Hamas terrorists would rather Palestinians die for propaganda purposes.

#18 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 11:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#18

Never mind that the Israelis created the conditions to begin with.

#19 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 12:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Palestinians do not want to negotiate. They dont want to share the land. Israel knows this.

Israel is in control of the land. They should keep it. The Palestinians only want to kill and destroy Israel.

To hell with them.

#20 | Posted by boaz at 2018-05-16 01:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Boaz is a Zionist who groks the Palestinians are sub-human, or as he prefers to call them, Untermenschen.

Quelle surprise!

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-16 01:17 PM | Reply

"The Palestinians do not want to negotiate. They dont want to share the land. Israel knows this."

That's a nice, self-serving assumption for a bloodthirsty militarist like you.

#22 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 01:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Palestinians do not want to negotiate. They dont want to share the land. Israel knows this.

Israel is in control of the land. They should keep it. The Palestinians only want to kill and destroy Israel.

To hell with them.

#20 | Posted by boaz

Israel wants the same thing. The same land. And they're willing to kill for it too.

Hamas just isn't rich enough to bribe our media to portray them in a good light like israel is, or to bribe our politicans to support them like israel does.

All for some stupid superstition.

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-05-16 01:28 PM | Reply

Israel is in control of the land. They should keep it. The Palestinians only want to kill and destroy Israel.

To hell with them.

#20 | Posted by boaz

Fortunately they don't have very far to go to get there.

In fact, they already live there.

Now if only they would just accept their dismal fate and stop resisting and learn to walk with smile while in a Living Hell.

Silly foolish primates. Always fighting for their freedom to the bitter end.

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-05-16 01:32 PM | Reply

Speaks,

Are you sympathizing with Hamas?

#25 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 01:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Are you sympathizing with Hamas?

#25 | Posted by JeffJ

Are you supporting the death of the 58 protestors?

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-05-16 01:47 PM | Reply

HAMAS does more to help Palestinians than just about anyone.

Of course, HAMAS got their start with funding from Israel as a foil to the pro-Soviet PLO.

Sort of like we funded Al-Qaeda as a foil to the Soviet in Afghanistan.

No Israel, no HAMAS. FACT!

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-16 01:49 PM | Reply

A hundred people are dead now because of what trump did. - #12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-05-15 09:51 PM
Trump did not attack the gates of Israel. He didn't attack and threaten to kill the people of Israel.
When a crowd stormed your castle, you didn't wait for them to breach the walls and begin killing your people to defend yourself.

Shame on them for protesting, right? - #15 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 11:39 AM
Shame on you for mistaking rioters for protestors.
When you try to breach a countries sovereign barriers, when you throw bombs, when you try to injure, when you threaten to kill, you're not protesting any more.

#28 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-16 02:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I see nullifidian is flagging everything like the little coward he's become.

#29 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-05-16 02:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

"Shame on you for mistaking rioters for protestors."

Rioter is what they call a protester they want an excuse to gun down. You are siding with killers. Does that make you proud?

"When a crowd stormed your castle, you didn't wait for them to breach the walls and begin killing your people to defend yourself."

This wasn't an enemy army storming a castle, you idiot. This was a bunch of civilian protesters.

#30 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 02:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

This wasn't an enemy army storming a castle, you idiot. This was a bunch of civilian protesters.

Ok, let's try a hypothetical for a moment. What do you think the individuals charging the border would do if the Israeli military withdrew and there was no resistance?

#31 | Posted by Daniel at 2018-05-16 02:14 PM | Reply

#29 |

And it's always rwingers he's NW of. Talk about devolution on a grand scale.

#32 | Posted by Corky at 2018-05-16 02:16 PM | Reply

When you try to breach a countries sovereign barriers, when you throw bombs, when you try to injure, when you threaten to kill, you're not protesting any more.

#28 | Posted by Avigdore

I don't like to see protestors become violent either. But, they were still protestors.

Jerusalem is one of the oldest cities in the world, and is considered holy to the three major Abrahamic religions -- Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Both Israel and the Palestinians claim Jerusalem as their capital. The State of Palestine had ultimately foreseen it as its seat of power.

Jerusalem has been destroyed at least twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times.

Without any negotiation Israel has now been given complete control of the city (Jerusalem has supposedly been taken off the negotiating table). When your protesting becomes ineffective and you have no hope for the future sometimes that is all you have left.

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-05-16 02:17 PM | Reply

What do you think the individuals charging the border would do if the Israeli military withdrew and there was no resistance?

#31 | Posted by Daniel

There were not 58 people trying to breach the border.

There were about 8. What about the other 50 people that were killed?

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-05-16 02:19 PM | Reply

Speaks,

Are you sympathizing with Hamas?

#25 | Posted by JeffJ

I see no moral difference between the two sides. One simply has better PR. And any time the wealthy are beating up the poor, I tend to side with the poor.

#35 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-05-16 02:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Without any negotiation Israel has now been given complete control of the city (Jerusalem has supposedly been taken off the negotiating table). When your protesting becomes ineffective and you have no hope for the future sometimes that is all you have left. -#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-05-16 02:17 PM

Is it your belief that our moving our Embassy to Jerusalem somehow gives complete control of Jerusalem to Israel? If so, I'd be excited to hear your explanation for that train of thought.
If not, then certainly an armed, violent protest of our embassy location cannot possibly be protesting that^^^.

#36 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-16 02:32 PM | Reply

Is it your belief that our moving our Embassy to Jerusalem somehow gives complete control of Jerusalem to Israel?

Are you being purposely naive, again? We just recognized Jerusalem as the capital if Israel. Not the capital of Palestine.

"By finally recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital, the United States has chosen fact over fiction. Fact is the only true foundation for a just and lasting peace," Pence said. (Even though Republicans wouldn't know a fact if it bit them)

Who controls ALL of Jerusalem? Israel.

Moving the Embassy there was just symbolic.

The Palestinians know what it really means.

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-05-16 02:43 PM | Reply

The Israeli "we are just defending ourselves" screed has officially become absurd. Someone note the date and time.

#38 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 02:50 PM | Reply

#4 it's so cute to watch you change shirts to whatever side lets you bitch loudest on a given topic.

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2018-05-16 02:52 PM | Reply

Do they have a right to defend themselves?

Should they have allowed their fence to be breached?

Should they have waited for some of their own to be killed before taking action?

I am trying to figure out where the line gets drawn here.

#40 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 02:57 PM | Reply

I see nullifidian is flagging everything like the little coward he's become.

#29 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

I'm not sure what you are looking at but several others have recently flagged FAR more than Nulli has.

#41 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 02:59 PM | Reply

It's ok guys. This is all part of God's plan to send Jesus back so there's nothing to worry about.

#42 | Posted by jpw at 2018-05-16 03:00 PM | Reply

"I am trying to figure out where the line gets drawn here."

We've had riots in the U.S. and we've had rock throwers but we don't just shoot them dead, generally we arrest them.

#43 | Posted by danni at 2018-05-16 03:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#43

So, you think the Israeli's should have just arrested over 1000 rioters? How does that work, exactly - especially given that Israeli authorities were likely outnumbered?

#44 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 03:04 PM | Reply

So, you think the Israeli's should have just arrested over 1000 rioters? How does that work, exactly - especially given that Israeli authorities were likely outnumbered?

#44 | Posted by JeffJ

Yeah if things are too logistically complicated, then you can just start killing people.

#45 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-05-16 03:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Moving the Embassy there was just symbolic.
The Palestinians know what it really means.

#37 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2018-05-16 02:43 PM
If symbolic, then this statement someone made above can't be relevant:
When your protesting becomes ineffective and you have no hope for the future sometimes that is all you have left
Which brings us back to what the actual cause of the armed and violent protests at the border is honestly all about.

We've had riots in the U.S. and we've had rock throwers but we don't just shoot them dead, generally we arrest them. - #43 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2018-05-16 03:01 PM
And what do we do with those
throwing pipe bombs, rocks, & grenades?
Have we seen a lot of peaceful protests with bombs, rocks and grenades being thrown here?

#46 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-16 03:16 PM | Reply

"So, you think the Israeli's should have just arrested over 1000 rioters?"

No Jeff, I think they should have just shot and killed people. Of course they should have arrested them.

#47 | Posted by danni at 2018-05-16 03:21 PM | Reply

Yeah if things are too logistically complicated, then you can just start killing people.

#45 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

So, wait for them to all breach the wall and then start arresting them as if they are going to respect Israeli authority in anyway.

If what you people are advocating for had actually taken place there would have probably been a lot more bloodshed, on both sides.

Not to mention, Hamas is now claiming that 50 of those killed were actually members of Hamas. While I don't trust Hamas, I don't see what incentive they would have for admitting this.

#48 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 03:30 PM | Reply

So much enthusiasm for killing protesters!

#49 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 03:30 PM | Reply

If any part of your argument is true then why not discuss the matter at the UN? What were they afraid of?

#50 | Posted by danni at 2018-05-16 03:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"So, wait for them to all breach the wall and then start arresting them as if they are going to respect Israeli authority in anyway."

So, better to just shoot them?

"If what you people are advocating for had actually taken place there would have probably been a lot more bloodshed, on both sides."

You have no way of knowing any such thing.

#51 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 03:34 PM | Reply

If what you people are advocating for had actually taken place there would have probably been a lot more bloodshed, on both sides.

#48 | Posted by JeffJ

Yeah best to keep all the bloodshed limited to one side isn't it? The side which doesn't fund our media or politicians.

#52 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-05-16 03:36 PM | Reply

Riots escalate if they aren't diffused.

#53 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 03:37 PM | Reply

"Diffused" is a funny way to describe opening fire on unarmed civilians.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-16 03:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Riots escalate if they aren't diffused.

#53 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-05-16 03:37 PM | FLAG:

1) Or they run out of steam on their own.
2) Staging a massacre is "defusing" now? You have officially hit a new low.

#55 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 03:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yeah best to keep all the bloodshed limited to one side isn't it? The side which doesn't fund our media or politicians.

#52 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

If somebody is invading your home with the intent to kill members of your family, you don't wait for a family member to first be killed before defending yourself.

Would Israel have been justified in your mind if, say, 20 of their people were killed in addition to the 62 "protesters" were killed? Or would that still be too one-sided for you?

#56 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 03:39 PM | Reply

Hey Jeff, you are an apologist for murderers. What does this say about you as a person?

#57 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 03:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Staging? As if Israel set this up?

#58 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 03:40 PM | Reply

"If somebody is invading your home with the intent to kill members of your family, you don't wait for a family member to first be killed before defending yourself."

That is an absurd false comparison.

#59 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 03:42 PM | Reply

Hey Jeff, you are an apologist for murderers. What does this say about you as a person?

#57 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN

I am going to teach you the same lesson I've been teaching Snoofy when taking this tack. There is only one worthy response to a post like this - you are now a proud recipient of the Ashton Stamp:

[stamp]
Please explain. Your claim is ridiculous. Stop repeating what you hear and educate yourself. What exactly was that supposed to prove? When your point is based entirely on an assumption, you didn't have a point to begin with. In order to make your point, you had to make something up completely. See the problem? Anything else that you would like to make up? The rest of your post was just mindless. I think you have only shown that you assume too much.
Do you ever actually understand what you are commenting on or does stupidity just take hold? Does anyone really understand what this person is babbling about?
[/stamp]

#60 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 03:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Staging? As if Israel set this up?

#58 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-05-16 03:40 PM | FLAG:

They did. From start to bloody finish.

#61 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 03:43 PM | Reply

Yeah best to keep all the bloodshed limited to one side isn't it?

oh, so it's better to have more bloodshed as long as it's more evenly distributed.

okay....

#62 | Posted by eberly at 2018-05-16 03:44 PM | Reply

That is an absurd false comparison.

#59 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN

How so?

Does Israel have a right to defend itself from harm?

Everything I've seen on this thread is an unqualified "No". Or, only after they are subjected to significant casualties on their own side.

#63 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 03:44 PM | Reply

You are literally defending a country using its army to massacre protesters, Jeff. How does this make you feel about yourself?

#64 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 03:44 PM | Reply

They did. From start to bloody finish.

#61 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN

How so? Did they perform a Jedi Mind Trick to get all of these people to attempt to storm their border?

#65 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 03:45 PM | Reply

were these peaceful protestors?

#66 | Posted by eberly at 2018-05-16 03:45 PM | Reply

#64 Protesters. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

#67 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 03:46 PM | Reply

"Does Israel have a right to defend itself from harm?"

By murdering demonstrators? Hell no.

#68 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 03:46 PM | Reply

How so? Did they perform a Jedi Mind Trick to get all of these people to attempt to storm their border?

#65 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-05-16 03:45 PM | FLAG:

Nope. Just decades and decades of crimes against humanity.

#69 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 03:47 PM | Reply

#67

Yeah, sorry it disrupts your narrative. But that is how your kind work. "Unlawful combatants" anyone?

#70 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 03:49 PM | Reply

Intifada was a protest. This was not.

#71 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 03:50 PM | Reply

Intifada was a protest. This was not.

#71 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-05-16 03:50 PM | FLAG:

Because you say so?

#72 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 03:51 PM | Reply

How so?
Does Israel have a right to defend itself from harm?
Everything I've seen on this thread is an unqualified "No". Or, only after they are subjected to significant casualties on their own side.

#63 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-05-16 03:44 PM | REPLY | FLAG

GZLives would be very proud of you.

#73 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-05-16 03:53 PM | Reply

In America, riots diffuse when the booze wears off. Palestinians aren't supposed to drink. Therefore, the only way to diffuse a Palestinian protest is to build a stripclub. Palestinians in Vegas love them. They never protest.

#74 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2018-05-16 03:54 PM | Reply

--Hey Jeff, you are an apologist for murderers. What does this say about you as a person?

Hey Trotsky, you are an apologist for jew-hating terrorists who wave the swastika. What does that say about you other than you're a nazi coddler?

#75 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 03:54 PM | Reply

#75

You are cheering for the guards in the world's largest concentration camp but I am the Nazi? How do you manage to walk and talk with all that cognitive dissonance buzzing in your skull?

#76 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 03:59 PM | Reply

#76

Concentration camp?

Are they being penned in? Unable to leave in any direction?

Talk about false equivalencies!

#77 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 04:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If somebody is invading your home with the intent to kill members of your family, you don't wait for a family member to first be killed before defending yourself.

#56 | Posted by JeffJ

You left out the part where I stole the invader's home, murdered, imprisoned, and oppressed the invaders for decades first.

#78 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-05-16 04:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Concentration camp?
Are they being penned in? Unable to leave in any direction?
Talk about false equivalencies!

POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-05-16 04:02 PM | REPLY

Why don't you learn something for once.

www.bbc.com

#79 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-05-16 04:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A policed space in which a population is concentrated by an external entity is surely a concentration camp by definition.

#80 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 04:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#80 In a traditional sense, yes. However, the Holocaust changed how the term 'concentration camp' is used.

#81 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 04:17 PM | Reply

--but I am the Nazi?

Yes you are. Your heroes...

twitter.com

#82 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 04:22 PM | Reply

"Diffused" is a funny way to describe opening fire on unarmed civilians. - #54 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2018-05-16 03:38 PM
Unarmed civilians is a funny way to describe people throwing bombs, rocks, & grenades.
Did I say funny? My mistake. I meant dishonest. It is a dishonest way to describe people throwing bombs, rocks, & grenades.

#83 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-16 04:26 PM | Reply

However, the Holocaust changed how the term 'concentration camp' is used.

#81 | Posted by JeffJ

Call them what you like. They are the same thing.

When we rounded up the Japanese we called them Internment Camps.

Maybe we can call these camps "District 9".

#84 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-05-16 04:29 PM | Reply

#82

Your brain is basically mulch at this point, Null. You've devolved into just another reactionary drive-by poster, parroting talking points given to you by others. Sad, really.

#85 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 04:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm not going to defend Israel for anything.....but this specific incident.......were the "protestors" a threat or not?

#86 | Posted by eberly at 2018-05-16 04:35 PM | Reply

I just find it odd that the West Bank was comparatively quiet and those Palestinians in the West Bank have a far greater interest in Jerusalem than Hamas in Gaza, and the embassy move was the stated reason for this so-called protest.

#87 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 04:37 PM | Reply

were the "protestors" a threat or not?

#86 | Posted by eberly

The "protestors" are getting desperate. Desperate people are always a threat.

Apparently it is much easier to just kill them than try and help them.

Apparently.

#88 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-05-16 04:40 PM | Reply

Donner,

It's a bit more complicated than just "try and help them". Gaza is a hotbed. It's roughly 1.5 million people squeezed into a landmass about the size of the city of Detroit. The problem is, Egypt views Gazans as a threat as well. It's a mess.

#89 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 04:43 PM | Reply

www.globalresearch.ca

Gaza: A Concentration Camp of 1.5 Million People

#90 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-05-16 04:46 PM | Reply

People should know when they have been conquered

Sincerely

The DR defenders of freedumbz and libertyz, (liberty minuse the the liberal, of course)

#91 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-05-16 04:49 PM | Reply

"were the "protestors" a threat or not?"

Threat to who/what?

To the continued existence of the State of Israel? Certainly not.

Their birth rate, however is an existential threat to the continued existence of the State of Israel as a democratic nation in the Western tradition.

But that's a separate problem (with a separate solution called Apartheid).

#92 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-16 04:56 PM | Reply

"My mistake. I meant dishonest. It is a dishonest way to describe people throwing bombs, rocks, & grenades."

My mistake, then. I hadn't realized every person who was killed was holding a rock, bomb, or grenade.

I am not quite sure how holding a rock makes you eligible for the death penalty under Israeli law, but no matter. Your side thinks shooting a black man holding a cell phone is permissible too.

#93 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-16 05:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It's a bit more complicated than just "try and help them".

"We want to create peace between Israel and the Palestinians. We will get it done," Trump said. "We will be working so hard to get it done. I think there is a very good chance and I think we will." At a lunch later on, he was even bolder: "It is something that I think is frankly, maybe, not as difficult as people have thought over the years." -Donald Trump

Apparently it is as "complicated" as health care reform turned out to be.

Dang those complicated things that were supposed to be so easy!

#94 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-05-16 05:03 PM | Reply

"Are they being penned in? Unable to leave in any direction?"

Yes, they are.

You're getting into Kanye territory here. Living in Gaza seems like a choice to you, right?

#95 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-16 05:05 PM | Reply

Funny that Trollifidian is now a Follower of #------------.... or sad.

#96 | Posted by Corky at 2018-05-16 05:12 PM | Reply

Funny that Corky of Naples is defending terrorists who wave the swastika. Nazi coddler.

#97 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 05:27 PM | Reply

Nulli Goose-stepper is fine with concentration camps... but will not abide anyone trolling the guards (even when said guards fire into crowds).

#98 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 05:34 PM | Reply

Nulli, darling, you defended the Nazi flag wavers in Charlotsville.

So did JeffJ, Avigdore, Chairborne; feel free to add your name to the list if I forgot you!

#99 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-16 05:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

- defending terrorists who wave the swastika.

So.... now your best bet is just to lie?

I'm not the one who kept deflecting and obfuscating on every thread about violent Nazi Marchers. As everyone here knows, that was you.

#100 | Posted by Corky at 2018-05-16 05:35 PM | Reply

Most poster defending Israel would do so should Israel carpet bomb the remaining portions of the Gaza Strip and West Bank.

The best they can muster is fearmongering "what if" scenarios of how they believe the Palestinians would treat the Israelis if tables were turned.

#101 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-05-16 05:58 PM | Reply

"Threat to who/what?"

an immediate threat to people in the area.

I'm not defending this.....it's just a question.

#102 | Posted by eberly at 2018-05-16 06:01 PM | Reply

#99

Null's claim is as baseless as your BS. He's just turning your insipid tactics around and slapping you in the face with it. It's apropos and VERY deserved.

#103 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 06:26 PM | Reply

I love it how the ball lickers are acting as if they aren't protesting what is essentially a slow burning genocide.

Seriously, how big of an ------- do you have to be to defend Israel on this?

#104 | Posted by jpw at 2018-05-16 06:31 PM | Reply

There's a chasm of difference between defending Israel's long-term actions and not mindlessly siding with Hamas over what just happened.

#105 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 06:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#103

We all remember your Nazi coddling, Jeff. You've moved on to murderer coddling now.

#106 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 06:34 PM | Reply

There's a chasm of difference between defending Israel's long-term actions and not mindlessly siding with Hamas over what just happened.

#105 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-05-16 06:34 PM | FLAG:

What kind of scum looks at a massacre and says "there are probably two sides to this..."?

#107 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 06:36 PM | Reply

#105 they're inseparable Jeff.

Israel's long term actions have created the status quo, which you are defending by acting as if the Palestinians would be a-ok if only they carried pithy signs and chanted rhyming slogans.

The entire situation is disgusting and so is anyone who defends it.

#108 | Posted by jpw at 2018-05-16 06:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"There's a chasm of difference between defending Israel's long-term actions and not mindlessly siding with Hamas over what just happened."

There's a chasm of difference between condemning what Israel just did and siding with HAMAS.

Well, maybe it's not that huge a chasm. But it's big enough for your brain to slide into, never to return.

#109 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-16 06:45 PM | Reply

I am not quite sure how holding a rock makes you eligible for the death penalty under Israeli law, but no matter. Your side thinks shooting a black man holding a cell phone is permissible too.

#93 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-16 05:00 PM Flag: Asks stupid questions. Tells stupid lies.
The only 2 things that you know how to do are ask stupid questions and tell lies.
That's going to be my flag for you from now on.

#110 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-16 06:47 PM | Reply

The Palestines are fighting the same battle they've fought for thousands of years.

#111 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-05-16 06:47 PM | Reply

--Nulli, darling, you defended the Nazi flag wavers in Charlotsville.

Liar.

--I'm not the one who kept deflecting and obfuscating on every thread about violent Nazi Marchers. As everyone here knows, that was you

Liar.

--We all remember your Nazi coddling, Jeff.

Liar.

#112 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 06:48 PM | Reply

#112

Say that all you want. We all remember, you Nazi coddling scum.

#113 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 06:51 PM | Reply

Israel's long term actions have created the status quo, which you are defending by acting as if the Palestinians would be a-ok if only they carried pithy signs and chanted rhyming slogans. - #108 | Posted by jpw at 2018-05-16 06:38 PM
Liar.

The entire situation is disgusting and so is anyone who defends lies about it.

#114 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-16 06:55 PM | Reply

"The only 2 things that you know how to do are ask stupid questions and tell lies."

Huh.

That's one more thing than you can do, correct?

#115 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-16 06:55 PM | Reply

--We all remember, you Nazi coddling scum.

Swastika lover. Sieg Heil, Dirk!

#116 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 06:55 PM | Reply

#116

Listen to you, showing your true colors! At least now you are an honest fascist.

You came onto this thread to be an apologist for murder. You spent months being an apologist for Nazis. And let's not get started on any thread on race.

#117 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 07:01 PM | Reply

Say that all you want. We all remember, you Nazi coddling scum.

#113 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 06:51 PM
You've defended Nazis in this thread, Nazi coddler. Protest with the symbol is showing your true nature.
These aren't merely protesters as you've defended them.
Continue to defend these people hiding behind their nazi symbols.
I'm sure you are cheering that maybe those carrying swastikas will win the day this time.
youtu.be

#118 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-16 07:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We all remember your Nazi coddling, Jeff. You've moved on to murderer coddling now.

#106 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN

I see you haven't learned your lesson...

[stamp]
Please explain. Your claim is ridiculous. Stop repeating what you hear and educate yourself. What exactly was that supposed to prove? When your point is based entirely on an assumption, you didn't have a point to begin with. In order to make your point, you had to make something up completely. See the problem? Anything else that you would like to make up? The rest of your post was just mindless. I think you have only shown that you assume too much.
Do you ever actually understand what you are commenting on or does stupidity just take hold? Does anyone really understand what this person is babbling about?
[/stamp]

#119 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 07:04 PM | Reply

#118

Still defending mowing down protestors, huh you goose-stepping goon? Do the people in your life know what sort of person you are?

#120 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 07:05 PM | Reply

#119

Poor Jeff, called out for supporting murderers so he throws a tantrum.

#121 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 07:06 PM | Reply

The entire situation is disgusting and so is anyone who defends lies about it.

There's no lie in that post.

I haven't read the entire thread because I found it disgusting that people are turning this into the Palestinians assaulting the Israeli border; ie they've earned it by daring to be angry over their lot in life.

But you're usually intellectually dishonest or flat out stupid, so it's no surprise you'd have trouble with my post.

#122 | Posted by jpw at 2018-05-16 07:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Israel's long term actions have created the status quo, which you are defending by acting as if the Palestinians would be a-ok if only they carried pithy signs and chanted rhyming slogans.
The entire situation is disgusting and so is anyone who defends it.

#108 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2018-05-16 06:38 PM | REPLY

NewsWorthy flag. Well said.

#123 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-05-16 07:12 PM | Reply

--Poor Jeff, called out for supporting murderers so he throws a tantrum.

#121 | Posted by DirkStruan

He's not the one supporting jew-hating terrorists. That would be you.

#124 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 07:20 PM | Reply

Still defending mowing down protestors, huh you goose-stepping goon?

#120 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN AT 2018-05-16 07:05 PM
I've never defended any such thing, liar. You are still in this thread defending those flying swastikas and seeking the death of Jews, are you not?

#125 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-16 07:20 PM | Reply

He's not the one supporting jew-hating terrorists. That would be you.

#124 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-05-16 07:20 PM | FLAG:

"Terrorists" here being code for "demonstrators", eh you freedom hating thug? You are fine with the IDF firing into crowds, of course.

#126 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 07:26 PM | Reply

"I've never defended any such thing, liar."

Sure you did. Like any abuser, you promptly blame the victims.

#127 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 07:27 PM | Reply

One can always count on the Unholy Trinity of Jeff, Nulli, and Avig to support the worst people in the world whenever the opportunity arises.

#128 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 07:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#128 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 07:31 PM | Reply | Flag: Jew hater

#129 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 07:32 PM | Reply

#129

Still cheering for the camp guards, eh Nazifidian? Be honest: you wish you could treat people in your neck of the woods with the same brutality

#130 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 07:34 PM | Reply

#130 | Posted by DirkStruan

Cheering for jew-hating swastika wavers.

#131 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 07:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#128 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 07:31 PM | Reply | Flag: Jew hater

#129 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-05-16 07:32 PM | REPLY

Prove it.

#132 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-05-16 07:38 PM | Reply

#131

Blaming the victim and supporting the oppressor, per your usual. Your younger self would be ashamed, alleged liberal.

#133 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 07:40 PM | Reply

The dishonesty of Israel firsters is unbelievable.

They will go to any lengths to make this about anything other than a captive populous's cries for freedom and justice.

#134 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-05-16 07:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I don't support you or any other Nazi supporter, DirkStruan

#135 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-16 07:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#134

Including an ongoing campaign of dehumanization that some posters here accept basically uncritically.

#136 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 07:43 PM | Reply

I don't support you or any other Nazi supporter, DirkStruan

#135 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE AT 2018-05-16 07:43 PM | FLAG:

Of course! You just support the imprisonment , torture, and murder of an entire class of people on ethnic-religious lines. But I am the fascist for calling you out. Got it.

#137 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 07:47 PM | Reply

#132 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-05-16 07:38 PM
Defending people calling for the death of jews while they "protest" under the swastika and throw bombs is your evidence. Right here in this thread.

#138 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-16 07:52 PM | Reply

You just support the imprisonment , torture, and murder of an entire class of people on ethnic-religious lines. But I am the fascist for calling you out. Got it.

#137 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 07:47 PM Flag: Defender of those calling for the death of jews while "protesting" and flying the swastika.
I say that I don't. You say that I do. Prove your assertion.
I say you're a nazi supporter, you haven't even denied it.
My proof is this thread where you continue to defend those who are calling for the death of jews while "protesting" under the swastika and throwing bombs.
There. I have proof you are a nazi supporter. You have the word of a nazi supporter that I support the crap you are lying about above.

#139 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-16 07:55 PM | Reply

Avig doesn't like it when the prisoners act up. They should just stay quiet and accept their fate.

en.m.wikipedia.org

#140 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 07:58 PM | Reply

"I say that I don't."

Yeah, but then we read yours posts where you blame the protesters for getting murdered by armed soldiers, support the obstruction of Amy investigation, refuse indeed to even acknowledge them as protestors (closing instea your own terms, terms that justify their mistreatment).

#141 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:00 PM | Reply

#141 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:00 PM Flag: Defender of those calling for the death of jews while "protesting" and flying the swastika.
Then we read your posts where you continue to defend nazis and know that your judgement is already flawed, so have no worry what other monstrous thoughts and misconceptions are in your head.

#142 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-16 08:05 PM | Reply

Avig takes protestors, civilian demonstrators, and paints them as rioters, Nazis, ravening hordes "storming the gates" of Israel like some sort of enemy army. Anything to make it their fault that they were gunned down by actual soldiers armed with actual weapons.

#143 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:05 PM | Reply

#142

And what about your thoughts, support of massacres?

#144 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:07 PM | Reply

Avig takes protestors, civilian demonstrators, and paints them as rioters, Nazis, ravening hordes "storming the gates" of Israel like some sort of enemy army. Anything to make it their fault that they were gunned down by actual soldiers armed with actual weapons. - #143 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:05 PM Flag: Defender of those calling for the death of jews while "protesting" and flying the swastika.
Dirkstruan pretends people throwing bombs, rocks, and grenades calling for the death of jews under the nazi banner are 'civilian demonstrators'.

#145 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-16 08:15 PM | Reply

#145

There you go again. Dehumanizing. Blaming the victims. Like the good little brown shirt you are.

It is almost funny watching you scramble for the moral high ground. Alas, it just isn't working out for you. You see, there was a massacre of civilians by armed soldiers and, perplexingly, only one of us seems to have a problem with this. Hint: it ain't you.

#146 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:20 PM | Reply

Show where I am dehumanizing anyone, liar.
I don't need to scramble for the moral high ground.
I proudly look down on any nazi defender.
Hint: It is you.

#147 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-16 08:25 PM | Reply

#147

All your posts. 145 paints the demonstrators as violent Nazis. 28 talks about them "storming" the gates like an invading horde. On and on you go, dehumanizing, saying they deserved it, like the morally bankrupt propagandist that you are.

www.google.com

#148 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:31 PM | Reply

civilian demonstrators - #143 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:05 PM Flag: Defender of those calling for the death of jews while "protesting" and flying the swastika.

Hamas leader, Salah Bardawil, says of the "62 people martyred, 50 were Hamas."

Hamas: It is regarded, either in whole or in part, as a terrorist organization by several countries and international organizations, most notably by Israel, the United States and the European Union.

Keep on defending, Dirkstruan.

#149 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-16 08:31 PM | Reply

"I don't need to scramble for the moral high ground."

Sure you do, you fascist pond scum. Since you are fine with the IDF gunning down demonstrators and all.

Do you victim blame in your personal life as well? Mistreat people and then claim they deserved it?

#150 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:33 PM | Reply

#121

No tantrum at all. I enjoyed hitting you with the Ashton Stamp - it was the only response that your inanities warranted.

#151 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 08:35 PM | Reply

149

So any member of Hamas can be killed with impunity now? Nice of you to admit that you are in favor of culls after all. Just like a good little fascist. I'll bet your mother is proud.

#152 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:35 PM | Reply

So you and Huffpost don't know the definition of dehumanize, I guess.
verb (used with object), dehumanized, dehumanizing.
1.to deprive of human qualities or attributes; divest of individuality

Cambridge defines it as such:
to remove from a person the special human qualities of independent thought, feeling for other people, etc.

Which I did none of. I heard you nazi sympathizers were pretty big into false accusations, so you've got that going for you.

#153 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-16 08:35 PM | Reply

Sure you do, you fascist pond scum.
...
#150 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:33 PM | Reply | Flag: Nazi coddler

#154 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 08:36 PM | Reply

"No tantrum at all."

Sure it was. You've never been all that good at making a rationale argument, so you default to cut and paste nonsense, especially when confronted by your disturbingly frequent support for horrors. I get it.

#155 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:37 PM | Reply

"1.to deprive of human qualities or attributes; divest of individuality"

Which is exactly what you did. You called them an invading horde, illegal combatants, life unworthy of life. You provided justification for their being killed like animals: dehumanization in its clearest form.

#156 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:39 PM | Reply

Sure it was.

#155 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN

Nope.

#157 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 08:39 PM | Reply

#156 Project much? That is exactly how you characterize the Israeli's.

#158 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 08:40 PM | Reply

So any member of Hamas can be killed with impunity now? Nice of you to admit that you are in favor of culls after all. Just like a good little fascist. I'll bet your mother is proud. - #152 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:35 PM Flag: Defender of those calling for the death of jews while "protesting" and flying the swastika.
I didn't realize that asking a question and providing a false answer so you can argue against it was a strength of nazi sympathizers. Thanks for giving us the evidence.
I'm sure your mother is disappointed.

#159 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-16 08:41 PM | Reply

#154

It looks like you can't even manage full sentences anymore, eh you murder applauding regressive?

#160 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:41 PM | Reply

Nope.

#157 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-05-16 08:39 PM | FLAG:

Yup.

#161 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:41 PM | Reply

You called them an invading horde, illegal combatants, life unworthy of life. - #156 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:39 PM Flag: Defender of those calling for the death of jews while "protesting" and flying the swastika.
Quote it or admit you are a liar.
Or are you going to run away.
I hear the nazis did a lot of that in the end, too.

#162 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-16 08:42 PM | Reply

Nope.

Your turn...

#163 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 08:42 PM | Reply

#156 Project much? That is exactly how you characterize the Israeli's.

#158 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-05-16 08:40 PM | FLAG:

I'm sorry, which of us is defending a massacre here? Oh, that's right: you people. Palestinians got killed and you are saying they deserved it. That is what we are discussing.

#164 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:43 PM | Reply

Avigdore,

He's clearly trolling and has been for a while.

It's pointless to engage this with anything more than the Ashton Stamp.

Well, the schoolyard taunts can be fun for a couple of posts, but they get repetitive fast.

#165 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 08:44 PM | Reply

#163

That's alright. I know a cut and paste temper tantrum when I see one. Deny it all you wish.

#166 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:44 PM | Reply

You are saying that Israel has no right to self-defense. Own it.

#167 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 08:44 PM | Reply

Quote it or admit you are a liar.

#162 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE AT 2018-05-16 08:42 PM | FLAG:

I referenced the posts in question, illiterate. So much for your denials.

#168 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:45 PM | Reply

"Hamas: It is regarded, either in whole or in part, as a terrorist organization by several countries and international organizations, most notably by Israel, the United States and the European Union."

It's kind of dumb to view the part where they provide food and medical services as terrorism.

#169 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-16 08:46 PM | Reply

You are saying that Israel has no right to self-defense. Own it.

#167 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-05-16 08:44 PM | FLAG:

Defense against what? Demonstrators? Defense in what form? A massacre? Shows what kind of morals you have, I suppose.

#170 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:47 PM | Reply

#159

False answer? You are the one who brought up that they were (allegedly) Hamas, as if that justified the massacre you are so hell bent on defending.

#171 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:49 PM | Reply

It's kind of dumb to view the part where they provide food and medical services as terrorism.

#169 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2018-05-16 08:46 PM | FLAG:

Dumb is his specialty.

#172 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:49 PM | Reply

Defense against people who would gladly kill them indiscriminately, if they were able to get the opportunity.

Lemme guess, you're disappointed that WWII ended before the Nazi's were able to finish the job?

#173 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 08:49 PM | Reply

It's kind of dumb to view the part where they provide food and medical services as terrorism.

#169 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

They receive enough in foreign aid to provide food and medical services, as well as other services, but funnel much of that money toward terrorist ends.

Hamas is not some benign humanitarian organization.

#174 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 08:52 PM | Reply

"Cheering for jew-hating swastika wavers.
#131 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN"

You guys only cheer for that in Charlostville, we get it.

#175 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-16 08:52 PM | Reply

"Defense against people who would gladly kill them indiscriminately, if they were able to get the opportunity."

You don't know any such thing, of course.

Even if you did, it does not justify gunning them down in the streets.

Funny how your appreciation for law and due process goes right out the window when it comes to Israeli crimes against humanity...

And as has already been asked, if this butchery was really justified, why impede an international investigation?

#176 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:53 PM | Reply

"Hamas is not some benign humanitarian organization."

Neither is the United States of America.

#177 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-16 08:54 PM | Reply

"Hamas is not some benign humanitarian organization."

The fact is that is serves political and humanitarian functions as well as military ones. No serious commentator denies this. In any case, it does not justify killing Hamas members just for being Hamas members... unless you are fine with political culls, that is. See your true colors starting to show?

#178 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 08:55 PM | Reply

Wow, Boyd and Snoofy are bleeding their ---- dry on this thread.

For the lying and position assignments alone they each deserve a vacation.

The drama is just icing on the cake.

#179 | Posted by eberly at 2018-05-16 08:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Like I said, Dirk is just butt-hurt that the US intervened in WWII before the Nazi's could exterminate ALL of the Jews.

#180 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 09:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Eberly's here to smell his own farts and leave.

Hi Eberly.

#181 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-16 09:00 PM | Reply

Hamas is a proxy for Iran which is considered by most of Europe, as well as the US, as the biggest exporter of terrorist activities in the world. And you support that, of course.

#182 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 09:01 PM | Reply

#180

There's only one extermination being discussed in this thread Jeffy, and you are all for it. Because that is the sort of person you are.

#183 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 09:02 PM | Reply

Dirk,

If I ever encountered you in person, I'd shave your back and make a Chewbacca costume out of it. Then I'd give you a wedgie and toss you into a picker bush.

#184 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 09:03 PM | Reply

#182

More victim blaming, huh Jeff?

#185 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 09:03 PM | Reply

"Hamas is a proxy for Iran which is considered by most of Europe, as well as the US, as the biggest exporter of terrorist activities in the world."

LOL, you only care what Europe thinks when you agree with what Europe thinks.
But when Germany bans the Nazi flag, you think that's fascist oppression.

#186 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-16 09:04 PM | Reply

Then, I'd force you to run around in the heat and get all sweaty. Then I'd roll you around in the grass and make you super itchy.

#187 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 09:04 PM | Reply

#184

Before or after you finished getting your steps in by power walking around your basement?

#188 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 09:04 PM | Reply

"Then I'd roll you around in the grass and make you super itchy."

Okay, that is just cruel and unusual!

#189 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 09:06 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

You'll be banged twice. First, I'll bang your ex-girlfriend, then I'll bang your head through the floor.

#190 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 09:06 PM | Reply

#188

After. I'd have to get my muscles warmed up for some pure, schoolyard bullying.

#191 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 09:07 PM | Reply

I'll end on that note of levity.

Time to swill a beer and watch the Tiger's get their asses handed to them by Cleveland.

#192 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 09:08 PM | Reply

Your childish fantasies say a lot about you.
Well not that much really.
It just says you're still a child, who had all these things happen to you, and you're still mad about it.

#193 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-16 09:08 PM | Reply

#191

I hear school yard bullying is an endurance sport... like football (soccer).

#194 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-16 09:09 PM | Reply

It's really sad how the DR has been taken over by terrorist apologists and jew haters. Pathetic.

#195 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 09:13 PM | Reply

#194 It's a good way to stay in shape, no doubt about it.

#196 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 09:14 PM | Reply

You are saying that Israel has no right to self-defense. Own it.

Going with the George Zimmerman response are we?

#197 | Posted by jpw at 2018-05-16 09:19 PM | Reply

#195 look in the mirror if you want to see pathetic.

Just an angry bitter old stoner lashing out at those damned kids on his lawn.

#198 | Posted by jpw at 2018-05-16 09:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

--I'm not the one who kept deflecting and obfuscating on every thread about violent Nazi Marchers. As everyone here knows, that was you
Liar.
Flag: Nazi coddler

| POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

It's really sad how all Dulli's only got now is the, "I'm rubber your'e glue" elementary school defense.

As if we didn't all see him deflecting and obfuscating on every thread about violent Nazi Marchers.

Whom are we to believe, him or our lyin' eyes?

#199 | Posted by Corky at 2018-05-16 09:27 PM | Reply

Then I'd roll you around in the grass and make you super itchy.

POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-05-16 09:04 PM | REPLY

That sounds like a sex romp to me.

#200 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-05-16 09:29 PM | Reply

--As if WE didn't all see him deflecting

An implicit admission that "we" are DNC hacks that make 90% of the posts.

#201 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 09:36 PM | Reply

#201

Every time there was a thread about violent Nazi Marchers, there you were like clockwork obfuscating and deflecting like Richard Spencer's Own Personal Energizer Bunny.... well, when you weren't busy doing the same for Trump.

#202 | Posted by Corky at 2018-05-16 09:39 PM | Reply

And Dirk, Snoofy, and JPW are DNC hacks??

Are you not taking your Alzheimer meds?

#203 | Posted by Corky at 2018-05-16 09:41 PM | Reply

Defense against people who would gladly kill them indiscriminately, if they were able to get the opportunity.

You mean, the way the Israelis kill Palestinians indiscriminately?

You seem ignorant at how taking away people's rights and freedoms and livelihoods would leave them bitter, angry, and resentful.

Lemme guess, you're disappointed that WWII ended before the Nazi's were able to finish the job?

What's amusing is you can't see the parallels between how the Nazis treated the Jews and how the Israelis are treating the Palestinians.

#204 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-05-16 09:41 PM | Reply

Just an angry bitter old stoner lashing out at those damned kids on his lawn.

Posted by jpw at 2018-05-16 09:20 PM | Reply | Flagged newsworthy by Corky

Two bitter losers that have never recovered from Nov.8th, 2016

Losers!

#205 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 09:46 PM | Reply

Hamas is a proxy for Iran which is considered by most of Europe, as well as the US, as the biggest exporter of terrorist activities in the world. And you support that, of course.

Why are you lying Jeff?

The biggest exporter of terrorist activities in the world, is the United States of America.

You're blind to reality and sounding stupider with every post.

#206 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-05-16 09:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Nulli was a victim of Green Lantern Syndrome, so maybe we should just feel sorry for him.

www.vox.com

#207 | Posted by Corky at 2018-05-16 09:50 PM | Reply

- Nov.8th, 2016

Tattooed on his forehead... in orange crayon.

#208 | Posted by Corky at 2018-05-16 09:51 PM | Reply

--www.vox.com

The only people that take "vox" seriously are Clintonite losers.

#209 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 09:52 PM | Reply

Perhaps you'd like the same story from links to realclearpolitics or the newyorktimes?

Or perhaps you just don't have an argument, just an excuse.

#210 | Posted by Corky at 2018-05-16 09:54 PM | Reply

Hillary probably lost because all her foot-soldiers became delusional from reading sites like Vox, HuffnPuff, Teen Vogue, Marxists Today, Everyday Feminism, etc.

#211 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 09:55 PM | Reply

Trump prolly won because his followers were afraid of all the brown kids on their lawn.

#212 | Posted by Corky at 2018-05-16 09:56 PM | Reply

And Dirk, Snoofy, and JPW are DNC hacks??
Are you not taking your Alzheimer meds?

Inquiring minds want to know......

#213 | Posted by Corky at 2018-05-16 09:58 PM | Reply

The biggest exporter of terrorist activities in the world, is the United States of America.
You're blind to reality and sounding stupider with every post.

#206 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Of course. Worst country in the history of mankind, by whatever metrics you are employing, I reckon.

#214 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 10:17 PM | Reply

--Inquiring minds want to know......

#213 | Posted by Corky

You should get one.

#215 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 10:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Worst country in the history of mankind, by whatever metrics you are employing, I reckon.
#214 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

No. We're not the worst country in the history of mankind. Not even close.

But, we do support terrorist organizations and carry out terrorism.

Seems like your blind support for Israel is causing you to only be able to post hyperbole.

Sad.

#216 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-05-16 10:37 PM | Reply

--And Dirk, Snoofy, and JPW are DNC hacks??

Not Dirk. He's more of a Revolutionary Communist Party kind of apparatchik.

revcom.us

#217 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 10:42 PM | Reply

No. We're not the worst country in the history of mankind. Not even close.

Agreed.

But, we do support terrorist organizations and carry out terrorism.

#216 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Also agreed. So, what exactly are we arguing about?

If you are taking some of my recent comments literally, scroll up and see what they were in response to,

You have always been good at reading through the lines and, by now, know me well enough to know when I'm being totally serious, or something less than 100% serious...

#218 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-16 10:42 PM | Reply

--we do support terrorist organization

Yes, progressives support Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, etc.

#219 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 10:44 PM | Reply

Jpw is a Dnc hack? rofl, you're smoking rat poison, nulli.

#220 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-05-16 10:48 PM | Reply

Jpw is a Dnc hack? rofl, you're smoking rat poison, nulli.

#220 | Posted by Alexandrite

Try reading #217 again, illiterate.

#221 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-16 10:55 PM | Reply

Two bitter losers that have never recovered from Nov.8th, 2016
Losers!

#205 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

I only voted for Hillary because she isn't Trump and I could see what a train wreck he was before he was even elected.

I think Trump's election locks in Americans in as some of the stupidest voters on the planet, but it's hardly something I need to "recover" from.

#222 | Posted by jpw at 2018-05-16 11:54 PM | Reply

There is no way anyone who is/was paying attention could legitimately call JPW a Clintonite or a DNC hack.

#223 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-05-16 11:57 PM | Reply

gal- Nulli called me a clintonite, and I left the democratic party 20 years ago precisely because of the clintons. He's an angry dude.

#224 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-05-16 11:59 PM | Reply

There is no way anyone who is/was paying attention could legitimately call JPW a Clintonite or a DNC hack.

#223 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

He is the quintessential Clintonite/DNC hack. He makes Corky look like a Stein supporter by comparison.

#225 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-17 12:00 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

The only people that take "vox" seriously are Clintonite losers.

#209 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

LOL if that's your opinion then it's probably top notch and worth reading.

#226 | Posted by jpw at 2018-05-17 12:04 AM | Reply

Yes, progressives support Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, etc.

#219 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

You're gonna have to cast better troll bait than that.

#227 | Posted by jpw at 2018-05-17 12:06 AM | Reply

"He is the quintessential Clintonite/DNC hack. He makes Corky look like a Stein supporter by comparison."

Really? I thought JPW hated both Clinton and the DNC. Hmm, maybe I'm the one who hasn't been paying attention.

#228 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-05-17 12:09 AM | Reply

I'm clowning, Gal.

#229 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-17 12:15 AM | Reply

--He's an angry dude.

This is coming from Team Blue, who has been ranting and raving like screaming banshees since Nov. 8th, 2016

#230 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-05-17 12:16 AM | Reply

Weren't you foaming at the mouth calling everyone a nazi and jew hater today, nulli?

"Banshee" indeed.

#231 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-05-17 12:20 AM | Reply

"I'm clowning, Gal."

Oh. LOL For a minute there, I thought I was losing my memory.

#232 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-05-17 12:23 AM | Reply

#230

For good reason. You know that.

#233 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-05-17 12:24 AM | Reply

#232 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Nope. Your memory is just fine.

#234 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-17 12:25 AM | Reply

To be honest i thought most of this thread was just awful.

A lot of straw men died here today.

#235 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-05-17 12:26 AM | Reply

No Gal, JPW is no Clinton hack.

Smear job in the making.

#236 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-05-17 12:27 AM | Reply

"gal- Nulli called me a clintonite, and I left the democratic party 20 years ago precisely because of the clintons. He's an angry dude."

I'm not sure why he's so angry. He hates liberals, but Trump won and the GOP is in charge of everything and rolling out one liberal-defying policy after another.

#237 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-05-17 12:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Liberal haters are now living in Hog aka Trump Heaven.

#238 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-05-17 12:32 AM | Reply

"Not Dirk. He's more of a Revolutionary Communist Party kind of apparatchik."

Apparatchik is kind of a 3 dollar word for you, isn't it Salad Brain?

#239 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-05-17 12:35 AM | Reply

Hate is a strong word...

I thought Hillary was a terrible candidate for the political environment and was contrary to the lessons that should have been learned from Obama.

I agree more with the Dems than the Repubs, but disagree with them on a ton as well.

Jeff is just forcing me into a box if that's what he really thinks.

#240 | Posted by jpw at 2018-05-17 12:42 AM | Reply

Jeff is just forcing me into a box if that's what he really thinks.

#240 | POSTED BY JPW

I think you are fair-minded most of the time.

#241 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-17 07:03 AM | Reply

"Hamas is not some benign humanitarian organization."
Neither is the United States of America.
#177 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-05-16 08:54 PM

Finally you understand what whataboutism is!
I guess you can do one other thing besides lie and ask dumb questions.

#242 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-05-17 09:21 AM | Reply

There is no way anyone who is/was paying attention could legitimately call JPW a Clintonite or a DNC hack.

#223 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY
He is the quintessential Clintonite/DNC hack. He makes Corky look like a Stein supporter by comparison.

POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-05-17 12:00 AM | REPLY |

Gal Tuesday is absolutely correct here.

#243 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-05-17 10:23 AM | Reply

Laura,

Acknowledged in #229 #234 and #241

#244 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-17 10:50 AM | Reply

Yes, Jeff was joking. I missed his sarcasm, and because I don't trust my own memory and know his is usually very accurate, I blinked.

#245 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-05-17 11:09 AM | Reply

I think you are fair-minded most of the time.

What about me?

(that's the only whataboutism I want to hear about!)

#246 | Posted by YAV at 2018-05-17 11:21 AM | Reply

Yav,

You are fair-minded most of the time as well.

#247 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-05-17 11:22 AM | Reply

I'm not sure why he's so angry. He hates liberals, but Trump won and the GOP is in charge of everything and rolling out one liberal-defying policy after another.

#237 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT 2018-05-17 12:29 AM | FLAG:

Too much dope not enough hope.

#248 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-05-17 11:27 AM | Reply

#248 - short and sweet!

#247 - thanks Jeff, it was in jest. Still I'll take it! :)

#249 | Posted by YAV at 2018-05-17 11:37 AM | Reply

#248 I'm torn between flagging that funny and newsworthy. And the poet in me likes the rhyme.

#250 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-05-17 11:37 AM | Reply

--He's an angry dude.
This is coming from Team Blue, who has been ranting and raving like screaming banshees since Nov. 8th, 2016

#230 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Well, how many indictments do we have now? Wasn't Trump's own analytics firm via Bannon found to be working with the Russians now? Senate reports today confirms that Russia was working on behalf of Team Trump, right? And then there's that $500 million dollar deal in China for Trump and Trump promising to save jobs at a Chinese company within 24 hours?

If you can't smell the corruption, you aren't smart enough to be here...or anywhere really.

#251 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-05-17 02:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- If you can't smell the corruption, you aren't smart enough to be here...or anywhere really.

He's only smart enough to be Richard Spencer's Deflection Machine and Trump's Obfuscator in Chief.... which ain't sayin' a lot.

#252 | Posted by Corky at 2018-05-17 02:05 PM | Reply

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