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Saturday, May 12, 2018

Ringo the beagle loves all the things every dog would: Running in the yard, rides in the car and the frequent snack. "He's just so happy to sit right in your lappy," his owner, Amy Bleich, an engineer in Edgewater, Maryland, said. You'd never know that Ringo, now five years old, had lived the entire first two years of his life inside a small cage at a nearby medical laboratory. ... [T]hanks to a growing number of states that have passed legislation cracking down on the practice by mandating that research laboratories must first attempt to adopt out healthy animals that have survived the research tests, thousands more dogs and cats may find homes.

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Well...I guess this is good news? ... puke

#1 | Posted by horstngraben at 2018-05-12 11:28 PM | Reply

Yeah, I still expect to purge all animal testing.

Humans that perform these acts are knowingly keeping these animals in the worse possible living conditions - as if they aren't alive.

The researchers are sociopath dominant - this is abusing them as well, imo.

Primitive, cruel and unnecessary rituals performed to this moment, the entire medical community disappoints me.

Knowledge of biological limitations should be collected and provided through different means.

Trump is about to provide better access to the worse elements of medicine - addictive pharmaceuticals.

Every single aspect of modern medicine is backwards.

These poor dogs and cats need rehabilitation, and so does the entire medical research system.

#2 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2018-05-13 01:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yeah, I still expect to purge all animal testing.

You'd be cutting medical advancement's legs out from underneath.

Humans that perform these acts are knowingly keeping these animals in the worse possible living conditions - as if they aren't alive.

While I can't speak to dogs or other animals, I do know that mice and rats are housed with considerable care for their living conditions.

The researchers are sociopath dominant - this is abusing them as well, imo.

--------. I personally conduct animal research and know the discomfort that I feel more often than not and through conversations with colleagues the discomfort they feel as well. The crux of the matter, however, is that we understand that the questions we're answering aren't answerable by other means.

Primitive, cruel and unnecessary rituals performed to this moment, the entire medical community disappoints me.

Do you actually have any knowledge of how animal research is conducted? Without Google, could you tell me what IACUC means? Do you even know that strict guidelines for animal use and care exist at Federal and institutional levels? Do you have any notion of the size of veterinary staff at research institutions to ensure that the animals are properly monitored and cared for?

Every single aspect of modern medicine is backwards.
These poor dogs and cats need rehabilitation, and so does the entire medical research system.

Oh please please please bequeath your wisdom upon us.

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2018-05-13 03:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

IACUC? I a cuc?

Sorry JPW - No way I could do research on animals larger than mice and rats and even that is really hard to swallow for me. Especially some of the totally unnecessary testing for unnecessary products that is done on them. And yes - causing suffering of animals in inhumane. No matter how well you care for them they are still suffering. I have saw the inside of labs at a company I can't name due to an NDA. They may be relatively clean but they are not good conditions for many animals. Mice and rats likely have it best.

As for the need - what you are saying is that no way has been developed yet to replace animals in research. I am sure if the possibility of animal research was removed or severely limited science would find a way.

#4 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-05-13 11:22 AM | Reply

Especially some of the totally unnecessary testing for unnecessary products that is done on them.

Well yes, I'm not a fan of product testing either. I'm referring more to actual biomedical research.

I am sure if the possibility of animal research was removed or severely limited science would find a way.

Of course science would find a way to trudge on.

But the data would be suspect. You simply cannot conduct certain types of research in reductionist systems. You require a full blown living organism to work with.

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2018-05-13 02:29 PM | Reply

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