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Saturday, April 14, 2018

A well-known attorney died Saturday morning after setting himself on fire in Brooklyn's Prospect Park in a reported protest against pollution. Police said David Buckel, 60, died after setting himself on fire at the northeast corner of the park. Authorities were called to the park after a passerby told nearby officers there was a fire on the grass around 6:15 a.m. Saturday, police sources said.

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Well that really did something to help the protest of pollution, it shows how far some of these goons will go.

#1 | Posted by Crassus at 2018-04-15 03:34 AM | Reply

See what all the alarmist hysteria over global warming produces?

Some people actually believe this stuff.

#2 | Posted by sawdust at 2018-04-15 05:54 AM | Reply

It would seem you'd need a special permit to start a fire in city park. I doubt this was legal but I wouldn't discourage everyone from doing their part to curb global warming, as I sit here in the middle of the largest April snowstorm in recorded history with the longest stretch since the last time the temperature reached 60 degrees in over 150 years.

#3 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-04-15 10:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Well the fact that all the major oil companies find Global Warming to be real says something. The fact they are devaluing their reserves because of that says something.

It is also clear that nobody in their right mind would have thought this act (especially how and where it was carried out) would penetrate any denier's skulls in the US or even bring more awareness to the problems and the first 3 posts are perfect examples.

#4 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-04-15 11:05 AM | Reply

Poor guy, spent too much time fighting evil and ignorance. He should have been proud of his victories over hate, instead despair won.

#5 | Posted by bored at 2018-04-15 11:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ah, the ole "self-immolation" move.
Lawyers are an odd bunch.

#6 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-04-15 11:22 AM | Reply

So sad. Environmental extremists literally scared him to death.

#7 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-04-15 11:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It would seem you'd need a special permit to start a fire in city park. I doubt this was legal but I wouldn't discourage everyone from doing their part to curb global warming, as I sit here in the middle of the largest April snowstorm in recorded history with the longest stretch since the last time the temperature reached 60 degrees in over 150 years.

#3 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-04-15 10:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

Let's forget about all of the record high, or near record high temperatures that were set in January, February, and March. Also, let's forget about the fact the Arctic has had the highest temperatures in Winter ever recorded. (see this article , for example.) Snow in April and some cooler-than-average temperatures in parts of the US proves the world is colder than ever. Or, maybe, this is an example of the Arctic Vortex breaking down, allowing cold air that was supposed to be trapped in the Arctic to spill into lower latitudes. It also allows warmer air to penetrate into the Arctic, raising the temperatures there.

By the way, I'm not sure where you live, but the snow totals I'm seeing projected for this storm don't even come close to the records for most places. The upper-Midwest is getting something like 12" or so ... which isn't even a record for Minnesota in April: April Snow Records for Minnesota While it did, apparently, set a record for snowiest April in Minneapolis-St.Paul by about 2" over 1983. However, Boston, for example, received more snow in one storm known as the "April Fools Day Blizzard" in 1997.

Let's also not forget this Winter wasn't even all that snowy, comparatively. There were a few large snowstorms in quick succession, but snowfall totals weren't breaking any records for the season. Here's a good site to do some historical research on. Looking at the 6 months from Oct 2017 to Mar 2018, the US had higher than average high temperatures, low temperatures, and average temperatures. In that same 6 months, the US had lower than average precipitation. Maybe your freaky April storm and stretch of cool weather doesn't really say a lot about global, or even US, climate.

Even the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature Project, now known as Berkeley Earth, founded by a "skeptic", has had to admit that a) the Earth is warming, and b) that warming is largely driven by humans. See: Wikipedia and Berkeley Earth's own site. Absolutely everyone who has _objectively_ looked at the data has come to the same conclusion. The science and the data are clear, humans are causing global temperatures to rise. Don't let your political stance on what to do about that fact cloud your judgment.

#8 | Posted by StatsPlease at 2018-04-15 12:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"... April storm and stretch of cool weather doesn't ..."

correct to: "... April storm and stretch of cool weather don't ..."

failed subject/verb agreement. Apologies.

#9 | Posted by StatsPlease at 2018-04-15 12:24 PM | Reply

Some people actually believe this stuff.

#2 | POSTED BY SAWDUST

Anybody with a brain believes it.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2018-04-15 01:41 PM | Reply

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A true environmentalist wouldn't have added to atmospheric CO2 in such an irresponsible manner and composted himself instead.

#11 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-04-15 01:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Damn fool just added some more carbon to the atmosphere.
Now I better not burn my tires so it evens out....cuz I wanna hep.

#12 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2018-04-15 04:03 PM | Reply

Story doesn't ring true as to idiot's motive.

It's so obvious it has to be a trick.

#13 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2018-04-16 01:12 PM | Reply

Story doesn't ring true as to idiot's motive.
It's so obvious it has to be a trick.

#13 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH

A trick for what?

Seriously, enlighten us. This ought to be good.

#14 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-04-16 01:13 PM | Reply

He could have at least burned himself inside a garbage can. Frigging hypocrite.

#15 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-04-16 01:19 PM | Reply

Syco--

A trick for covering up his true motivation for killing himself. Like: found out he has terminal cancer, say, and just was hoping to go out in a blaze of glory instead. Something with some sizzle.

Or, he just closed out with a Darwin Award. That's kinda hot in its own way.

It don't make no never mind to me.

#16 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2018-04-16 01:37 PM | Reply

Syco--
A trick for covering up his true motivation for killing himself. Like: found out he has terminal cancer, say, and just was hoping to go out in a blaze of glory instead. Something with some sizzle.
Or, he just closed out with a Darwin Award. That's kinda hot in its own way.
It don't make no never mind to me.

#16 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH

That's pretty ridiculous. You are seriously going to assume he had an ulterior motive despite zero evidence to the effect? Don't you think he would have chosen a slightly less painful way to go?

#17 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-04-16 02:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yeah, there's likely more to this.

Maybe he was under investigation for something.

Regardless, setting yourself on fire will only be viewed as mental illness manifested.

#18 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-04-16 02:21 PM | Reply

Don't you think he would have chosen a slightly less painful way to go?
#17 | Posted by Sycophant

Absolutely not.

The more you suffer, the more it shows you really care.

#19 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2018-04-16 02:55 PM | Reply

#18

Along with the hunger strike, self immolation is perhaps the most extreme form of protest. When people self immolated in protest of the war in Vietnam, it was not so readily dismissed. Perhaps ours is a less principled era...

#20 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-04-16 03:11 PM | Reply

Don't you think he would have chosen a slightly less painful way to go?
#17 | Posted by Sycophant
Absolutely not.
The more you suffer, the more it shows you really care.

#19 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH

Wait, so he did care or he didn't care?

You are contradicting yourself now.

#21 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-04-16 03:23 PM | Reply

Wait, so he did care or he didn't care?
You are contradicting yourself now.

#21 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

I'm pretty sure he was quoting the song Self-Esteem by "The Offspring". Essentially, he was joking.

#22 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-16 03:46 PM | Reply

Right! Yeah -- hey!

Logged in one last time just to post this.

Self-immolating weirdo may have wanted to die under 'better' circumstances than he may have otherwise foreseen.

No one seems to have caught my 'blaze of glory,' 'more sizzle and 'kinda hot' modularity.

Nonetheless:

Mission accomplished.

#23 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2018-04-16 05:04 PM | Reply

Jocularity!

-------------------------.

#24 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2018-04-16 05:05 PM | Reply

#23 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH

Are you off your Meds? Seriously, you aren't even making sense anymore. You should check in with your doctor.

#25 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-04-16 05:20 PM | Reply

Idiotic comments found in this thread.

1) He killed himself because of global warming hysteria.

2) Global warming doesn't exist, it's snowing outside.

3) Environmentalists caused him to kill himself.

4) He lied about the reason he set himself on fire.

5) He was under investigation (for something).

6) He had cancer and killed him self in this manner for attention.

With morons like these. It's pretty obvious why it's so difficult to create any changes in society.

David Buckel's protest was in vain.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-04-16 05:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Seriously, you aren't even making sense anymore.

You assume there was a time he made sense.

Dix is just a drive by troll.

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-04-16 05:26 PM | Reply

There's got to be a lawyer joke in there somewhere.

#28 | Posted by MSgt at 2018-04-16 05:54 PM | Reply

#26

They are such strangers to moral courage that they are no longer capable of recognizing it.

#29 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-04-16 06:04 PM | Reply

David Buckel's protest was in vain.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack

To Hell with David Buckel.

#30 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2018-04-16 06:19 PM | Reply

(Who is David Buckel?)

#31 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2018-04-16 06:20 PM | Reply

Seriously, you aren't even making sense anymore. You should check in with your doctor.
#25 | Posted by Sycophant

All of my efforts to light up this thread are up in smoke.

On this thread about self-immolation. Up in smoke. My efforts to ...

JFC Never mind.

Mission accomplished.

#32 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2018-04-16 06:24 PM | Reply

Seriously, you aren't even making sense anymore. You should check in with your doctor.
#25 | Posted by Sycophant
All of my efforts to light up this thread are up in smoke.
On this thread about self-immolation. Up in smoke. My efforts to ...
JFC Never mind.
Mission accomplished.
#32 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH

You didn't lighten up the thread. You just made some idiotic comment that he must have had ulterior motives for lighting himself on fire without a shred of evidence to support them.

Honestly, you come off as some whiny little Snowflake because this guy did something incredible that you can't relate to or believe in.

The only Mission you've accomplished is in your parent's basement.

#33 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-04-16 06:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"did something incredible"

He killed himself, ------.
Why don't you go do something "incredible" instead of posting all day long?

#34 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-04-16 06:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#34

Looks like Sycophant hit a nerve.

#35 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-04-16 06:58 PM | Reply

You didn't lighten up the thread.

#33 | Posted by Sycophant

I wasn't trying to lighten it up, Zoolander. I was trying to light it up. It's a thread about self-immolation, for ----- sake.

Some old gasbag self-combusted for a stated reason so stupid that it sparked my theory that fossil fuel consumption couldn't possibly be the real reason a sexagenarian (look it up, Derek -- it's not dirty) would torch himself.

You may find my comments incendiary. In that case:

Mission accomplished.

#36 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2018-04-16 07:12 PM | Reply

"for a stated reason so stupid"

An ecosphere threatening catastrophe isn't enough for you? Troll somewhere else, you pathetic basement dwelling loser.

#37 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-04-16 07:24 PM | Reply

Great....he protested pollution by starting a fire.

Very consistent logic.

Frankly, it would have made more sense to kill himself by exposure to the cold in the wintertime.

Even refusing to eat would have been more impressive.

Sort of like Al Gore flying around in jumbo jets to protest carbon emissions.

#38 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2018-04-16 07:28 PM | Reply

--An ecosphere threatening catastrophe isn't enough for you?

I've opposed every ecosphere-threatening-catastrophe since Paul Ehriich's "The Population Bomb" (1968). Of course, his book turned out to be fatuous nonsense, like the gloom and doom predictions made at the first Earth Day in 1970, but we have to keep hope alive for a catastrophe only a massive big State can stop.

#39 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-04-16 07:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#39

We are already seeing the consequences, but by all means, continue to stick your head in the sand.

#40 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-04-16 07:40 PM | Reply

we have to keep hope alive for a catastrophe only a massive big State can stop.

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed Jesus will descend down from heaven onto earth, to kill all the Jews and rapture the Christians.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-04-16 07:58 PM | Reply

Inshallah

#42 | Posted by bruceaz at 2018-04-16 08:15 PM | Reply

#29 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN

Of course. Conservatives in general tend to be quite cowardly. Hell... they worship President Bone Spurs. They know that they could never do something so difficult or painful in support of a deeply held belief, because they no longer HAVE deeply held beliefs. They only care about themselves. So, the only option they have is to insult and marginalize the people who make them realize they are second rate human beings.

#43 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2018-04-16 08:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I've opposed every ecosphere-threatening-catastrophe since Paul Ehriich's "The Population Bomb" (1968)."

While simultaneously lamenting the population bomb that went off in southern California since 1968.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-04-16 10:28 PM | Reply

His name was David Buckel

#45 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-04-16 11:44 PM | Reply

JeffJ would never light a piece of meat on fire. No, you need 50-60 briquettes of good quality charcoal, and a 30" Weber.

#46 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-04-17 12:05 AM | Reply

#46

Flank steak tomorrow, bro.

18.5" Weber with about 30 Weber briquettes (yes, Weber makes briquettes now and although when they were originally introduced they were over-priced, but now a 20 pound bag can be had at Lowe's for $12, and they are quality briiquettes).

It's supposed to be cold (mid-30's) and rainy tomorrow, so the 27" Weber will sit on the patio covered and I'll use the Jumbo Joe at the base of my garage.

I did recently watch a video regarding caveman steak - steak cooked directly on top of the hot coals. It didn't turn out very well. The cold meat lowered the temperature of the coals and didn't get much sear.

#47 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-17 12:15 AM | Reply

I did recently watch a video regarding caveman steak - steak cooked directly on top of the hot coals. It didn't turn out very well. The cold meat lowered the temperature of the coals and didn't get much sear.

POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-04-17 12:15 AM | REPLY

That's why I thoroughly love Raw steak. Get your butcher to cut some fresh making sure to wrap it in saran wrap and put on Styrofoam tray. Stick it on your dash to heat up. When you get home salt and pepper to taste and then eat.

#48 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-04-17 12:22 AM | Reply

#48

I like my steak on the rarer side of medium rare, Laura, but I don't want it to still be mooing when it comes time to eat.

#49 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-17 12:33 AM | Reply

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