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Thursday, April 12, 2018

It becomes clearer every day that Barack Obama, a historic president, presided over a somewhat less than historic presidency. With only one major legislative achievement (Obamacare) -- and a fragile one at that -- the legacy of Obama's presidency mainly rests on its tremendous symbolic importance and the fate of a patchwork of executive actions. How much of that was due to fate and how much was due to Obama's own shortcomings as a politician is up for debate and is a question that emerges from Princeton historian Julian Zelizer's new edited volume, The Presidency of Barack Obama. With contributions from seventeen historians, the book bills itself as "a first historical assessment" of the Obama presidency. The overwhelming consensus, Zelizer writes, is that Obama "turned out to be a very effective policymaker but not a tremendously successful party builder."

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This is a pretty balanced piece. And before the usual suspects start screaming, the embedded piece was posted at Brookings - a moderate, liberal think-tank.

#1 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 09:27 AM | Reply

"Fifty Years to Judge" was how the saying went

you know, for "Balance" and all that

#2 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-04-12 09:32 AM | Reply

"How much of that was due to fate and how much was due to Obama's own shortcomings as a politician is up for debate and is a question that emerges from Princeton historian Julian Zelizer's new edited volume, The Presidency of Barack Obama."

That is utter garbage. It rests on the Caucus House Conspiracy and the most obstructionist Congress in history.

And Jeff, I don't care where it was posted it is still a lie. Ignoring Republican obstructionism during the Obama years is dishonesty, it is the definition of dishonesty. I think the Republicans refusal to even give Garland a hearing for over a year is a good example of the obstructionism that they used to prevent Obama from accomplishing the things he intended to accomplish. I would be ashamed if I were a Republican who voted for any of those obstructionists. They put a knife into democracy. They openly acknowledged their intention to kill it. But then, anyone who watches their attempts at voter suppression, gerrymandering, etc. know that already. They all have more allegiance to dollars than to democracy. Just ask Paul Ryan who will now be a lobbyist making millions as his payoff for the tax cut.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 09:52 AM | Reply | Funny: 3 | Newsworthy 5

Uninformed and racist. I figured it would be Jeff's or head Bernie Bro Sheeple.

#4 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-04-12 09:57 AM | Reply

Danni going down the everyone gets a trophy generation road... Barak wasn't a great President because they didn't let him. If he were a great President he would have figured out how to get s**t down regardless.

#5 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2018-04-12 10:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Uninformed and racist. I figured it would be Jeff's or head Bernie Bro Sheeple.
#4 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

Racist? You are a ------- --------.

#3 | POSTED BY DANNI

You obviously didn't read the linked article. It addressed GOP obstructionism, which was no more severe than #TheResistance we are seeing now. Funny that you not only have no problem with the resistance, but you openly support it. Personally, I expect the opposition party to behave like an opposition party.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 10:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You obviously didn't read the linked article. It addressed GOP obstructionism, which was no more severe than #TheResistance we are seeing now. Funny that you not only have no problem with the resistance, but you openly support it. Personally, I expect the opposition party to behave like an opposition party.

Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 10:09 AM | Reply

Total dishonest much????

#7 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-04-12 10:12 AM | Reply

Personally, I expect the opposition party to behave like an opposition party.

Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 10:09 AM | Reply

It has to be loyal opposition, JEFF.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2018-04-12 10:15 AM | Reply

Total dishonest much????

#7 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

Dishonest about what?

#9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 10:20 AM | Reply

You obviously didn't read the linked article. It addressed GOP obstructionism, which was no more severe than #TheResistance we are seeing now. Funny that you not only have no problem with the resistance, but you openly support it. Personally, I expect the opposition party to behave like an opposition party.

Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 10:09 AM | Reply

Democrats have tried to work with Trump unlike the GOP who totally refused to work with Obama. Not even equal.

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-04-12 10:23 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Democrats have tried to work with Trump unlike the GOP who totally refused to work with Obama. Not even equal.

#10 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

You're full of pooh.

#11 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 10:33 AM | Reply

You're full of pooh.

Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 10:33 AM | Reply

www.nytimes.com

Why Did Trump Work Again With Democrats? ‘He Likes Us,' Schumer Says

www.newsweek.com

Trump is Now Working With Democrats to Run the Country. Will It Last?

MY WORDS FOLLOW

Like getting your ass handed to you I see. How sad.

#12 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-04-12 10:37 AM | Reply

You've handed nothing.

#13 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 10:39 AM | Reply

Jeff. Try to learn something from your shame.

#14 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-04-12 11:35 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Dang!!!! So many Con dog whistles here. Is the author a Grand Wizerd?

#15 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-04-12 11:35 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Looked her up. Been looking for free room and board in the White House schilling for Clintons then Gore.

Looks like she is now looking for some of that Mercer money or had a grad student write this one.

What a joke.

#16 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-04-12 11:38 AM | Reply

Anything even remotely critical of Obama is racist. - Bruthe

#17 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 11:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

- It addressed GOP obstructionism,

And immediately blew it off... like they did the GW's Great Recession that Obama inherited. The article and the book's problem with Obama was that he wasn't Green Lantern.

The Green Lantern Theory of the Presidency, explained

According to Brendan Nyhan, the Dartmouth political scientist who coined the term, the Green Lantern Theory of the Presidency is "the belief that the president can achieve any political or policy objective if only he tries hard enough or uses the right tactics."

In other words, the American president is functionally all-powerful, and whenever he can't get something done, it's because he's not trying hard enough, or not trying smart enough.

www.vox.com

But hey Jeffy... Donald Douche appreciated the Deflection to Obama when he's in the spotlight for his criminal conduct. Maybe you can find a Hillary Did It!! article next?

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2018-04-12 11:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Hardcore Obama supporters may well be more thin-skinned than hardcore Trump supporters.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 11:58 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

--Uninformed and racist. I figured it would be Jeff's or head Bernie Bro Sheeple.

--Dang!!!! So many Con dog whistles here. Is the author a Grand Wizerd?

acidmuncher.files.wordpress.com

#20 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-04-12 12:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Despite all this spin, Obama is still more respected than Trump.

#21 | Posted by 726 at 2018-04-12 12:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#21

It's not about respect, it's about his fragile legacy.

I agree that Obama is more respected than Trump.

#22 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 12:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#19

Hardcore Republicans who may occasionally bash Trump but more often Deflect for him and carry water for his 1 percenter policies seem to have a lot of skin in his game.

One might think that after Republican criminals and traitors like Nixon, Reagan, GW, and now Trump, they might have a little more self-respect than remain Republicans.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2018-04-12 01:11 PM | Reply

than to

#24 | Posted by Corky at 2018-04-12 01:12 PM | Reply

One might think that after Republican criminals and traitors like Nixon, Reagan, GW, and now Trump, they might have a little more self-respect than remain Republicans.
#23 | POSTED BY CORKY

At least Republicans never championed a guy who drove his car into a body of water and left his female companion to die and then abuse his power to make sure he never had to face justice.

#25 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 01:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

#25

So, you firmly disapprove of traffic accidents? That's nice to know. However, even were the worst rwing spin on that story true, it wouldn't nearly make up for the criminals and traitors Republicans have foisted on this country for decades.

#26 | Posted by Corky at 2018-04-12 01:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So, you firmly disapprove of traffic accidents?

When alcohol is involved, yes.

And it was WAY more than just an accident. But you know that, or at least you should.

#27 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 01:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#27 |

On this thread, it was a lame Deflection from the fact that one might think that after Republican criminals and traitors like Nixon, Reagan, GW, and now Trump, they might have a little more self-respect than remain Republicans.

#28 | Posted by Corky at 2018-04-12 02:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#25 a 4:1 ratio isn't something to brag about.

#29 | Posted by jpw at 2018-04-12 02:03 PM | Reply

- 4:1 ratio

Even were Obama a criminal or a traitor, which he was not.

#30 | Posted by Corky at 2018-04-12 02:05 PM | Reply

Even were Obama a criminal or a traitor, which he was not.
#30 | POSTED BY CORKY

I would say 'he is not'.

#31 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 02:17 PM | Reply

If Obama's legacy is fragile, and I don't really disagree with that, the Republican congress of then and now has a legacy that's even worse. The current batch of Republicans will go down as the ones who ushered plutocracy through the gates. And now that plutocracy is firmly entrenched, I don't know that we'll ever get rid of it.

#32 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2018-04-12 02:44 PM | Reply

Bruthe

#17 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-04-12 11:48 AM | FLAG: | NEWSWORTHY 1

You and nw think the homophobia is pretty clever.

#33 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-04-12 04:34 PM | Reply

no big arguments with the article. I consider Obama to be a mediocre president: high on character, low on decision-making impetus, mixed on accomplishments.
But he gonna look like a freaking angel in four years' time compared to Orange Julius.

#34 | Posted by e1g1 at 2018-04-12 05:09 PM | Reply

33

racism and homophobia?

thrown in the towel on all arguments, have you?

#35 | Posted by eberly at 2018-04-12 05:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Anything even remotely critical of Obama is racist. - Bruthe

#17 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-04-12 11:48 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

It IS Racist considering you have to spew the racist/racism word when condemning something Obama did or didn't do. If it was honest criticism you would only utter the criticism without asking is it racist and then move on.

#36 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-04-12 05:23 PM | Reply

I didn't bring racism into the discussion, Banner did.

Point your barbs at him.

#37 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 06:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I didn't bring racism into the discussion, Banner did.
Point your barbs at him.

POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-04-12 06:07 PM | REPLY

Did you or did you not state this

Anything even remotely critical of Obama is racist. - Bruthe

#17 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-04-12 11:48 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

OOPSIE DAISY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#38 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-04-12 06:27 PM | Reply

#38 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

Oopsie daisy my ass. Bruce introduced racism into the discussion.

Uninformed and racist. I figured it would be Jeff's or head Bernie Bro Sheeple.
#4 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

Dang!!!! So many Con dog whistles here. Is the author a Grand Wizerd?
#15 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER


#17 was in response to these 2 posts.

#39 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 06:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Obama's legacy?

1.) $10T in debt
2.) Horrible economy
3.) Zero prosecutions following the financial meltdown
4.) New wars stretching the planet and resulting in ISIS and slave markets in Libya
5.) Renewed racial strife as a platform of the Dem party to maintain minority voters
6.) Out of control deep state violating your freedoms in new ways along with continuing the abused started under Bush
7.) Rampant crony capitalism stretching from GE to green investments
8.) First half-black guy elected president

It is pretty funny that his only 'accomplishment' listed by libs is the disaster known as Obamacare. Sad.

#40 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-04-12 08:45 PM | Reply

thrown in the towel on all arguments, have you?

#35 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2018-04-12 05:09 PM | FLAG:

I am likely too busy.

The homophobia one is pretty clear. I was thinking the other day that the Bruthe thing was spent about three years go? Maybe more? Trump and the crew made it fashionable again.

Any article that starts with a version of "Obama is well spoken for a Black man, but rest assured that the rest of them are not even well spoken" gets thrown into the trash with the rest. It's simply for the base.

#41 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-04-12 08:50 PM | Reply

Obama is well spoken for a Black man,
#41 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

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I don't know where this myth came from. When talking without the aid of a teleprompter, he sounds fake folksy like Comey and stumbles on his words. He never had the ability to think on his feet. He could read the teleprompter though I would expect that of pretty much everyone not educated by the Detroit Public School System.

#42 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-04-12 08:55 PM | Reply

He could read the teleprompter though I would expect that of pretty much everyone not educated by the Detroit Public School System.

So how do you explain donald's robotic delivery for things like the State of the Union address, where someone is obviously holding a gun to his head to just read the teleprompter, word by word, and not go off on a rant?

#43 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-04-12 09:00 PM | Reply

So how do you explain donald's robotic delivery for things like the State of the Union address, where someone is obviously holding a gun to his head to just read the teleprompter, word by word, and not go off on a rant?

#43 | POSTED BY REDIAL

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Trump knows his audience and his audience doesn't like canned speeches so when he uses a teleprompter, it is a compromise to give a little to both his base and his handlers trying to reach outside of it.

With Obama, as he did not have the ability to think on his feet, he needed to strictly read the words exactly as written and rehearsed. Some people like that delivery and consider the person reading the words as 'well spoken'. I find those people to pretty moronic. It is akin to claiming a person reading a book he didn't write to a group of 4th graders is a good author.

#44 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-04-12 09:06 PM | Reply

Any article that starts with a version of "Obama is well spoken for a Black man, but rest assured that the rest of them are not even well spoken" gets thrown into the trash with the rest.

Can you provide a direct quote from the embedded article that even remotely suggests what you just put forth?

It's simply for the base.

#41 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

She writes for the liberal think-tank Brookings and was on the Al Gore campaign team in '00. I don't think your characterization is anything close to her 'base'.

#45 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 09:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#45 only if you put people into boxes based on their political affiliations. I judge the content of the article Jeff.

Factually it's also a disaster. I am just pointing out that we should not be involved in the dehumanization of our fellow Americans. It makes it seem like your desire to degrade Obama is simply lashing out at him for being black.

Otherwise, why post weak content full of dog whistles?

#46 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-04-12 09:32 PM | Reply

I don't know where this myth came from. When talking without the aid of a teleprompter, he sounds fake folksy like Comey and stumbles on his words. He never had the ability to think on his feet. He could read the teleprompter though I would expect that of pretty much everyone not educated by the Detroit Public School System.

#42 | POSTED BY REX_BUYT AT 2018-04-12 08:55 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Agreed Rex. He is best when he is on script. So am I.

#47 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-04-12 09:33 PM | Reply

Trump knows his audience and his audience doesn't like canned speeches...

That's sort of a fair point. Sometimes your audience prefers bumper sticker bullet points, sometime your audience is Congress.

#48 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-04-12 09:35 PM | Reply

I remember watching Obama go on Letterman and joke about his bowling. He said it was like the special olympics out there. I cringed.

He said the police acted stupidly or something like that and I knew it would not go over well. strangely, trump can poop all over the military and law enforcement.

#49 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-04-12 10:05 PM | Reply

I remember watching Obama go on Letterman and joke about his bowling.
#49 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

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Obama joking is always cringey as he is such a fake person that he doesn't know who he is anymore. Remember the mic drop "you will never be president" moment over Trump?

#50 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-04-13 12:06 AM | Reply

Obama joking is always cringey as he is such a fake person that he doesn't know who he is anymore.

I think he was just a politician.

Trump. Now that's a fake person who doesn't know what he is anymore. That guy agrees with and flatters whomever is speaking to him at the moment. Nothing more, nothing less.

#51 | Posted by jpw at 2018-04-13 12:32 AM | Reply

I think he was just a politician...

#51 | POSTED BY JPW

Yeah. Agreed. Obama was sometimes awkward when speaking off-the-cuff. I never viewed that as a sign that he wasn't smart. It just didn't fit his skill-set. I certainly didn't fit GW Bush's skill-set.

Senator Mike Lee is pretty brutal in front of a camera.

#52 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-13 12:37 AM | Reply

At least Republicans never championed a guy who drove his car into a body of water and left his female companion to die and then abuse his power to make sure he never had to face justice.

#25 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Not a guy, but a gal. ‘member Laura Bush? Ex-boyfriend (pre Dubya) was killed because she was drunk driving. I bet you never knew that.

Coming from a wealthy family it's amazing what one can get away with.
She never faced justice.

#53 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-04-13 01:20 AM | Reply

"At least Republicans never championed a guy who drove his car into a body of water and left his female companion to die and then abuse his power to make sure he never had to face justice.
#25 | POSTED BY JEFFJ "

Like championing the guy who invaded Iraq, or the other guy who invaded Iraq, isn't about 1,000,000 times worse than that.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-04-13 01:27 AM | Reply

This is history's first crack at the Obama legacy. So far it's giving him failing marks at building the political capital to make his policies last. I think the best thing about the Obama legacy is that the policies he enacted largely with a "phone and a pen" will cease to exist, and his 8 years rendered largely irrelevant from a policy standpoint. Fade into history Barry.

#55 | Posted by Nuke_Gently at 2018-04-13 07:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I think the best thing about the Obama legacy is that the policies he enacted largely with a "phone and a pen" will cease to exist,"

Yeah, like DACA. And hey, looks like Obamacare is here to stay. That one achievement is more beneficial to the people of this country than anything done by his predecessor in his entire 8 years. When you have a Republican that does something that benefits as many people as that did, which reduces costs as much, let me know. I won't hold my breath.

#56 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-13 08:35 AM | Reply

""At least Republicans never championed a guy who drove his car into a body of water and left his female companion to die and then abuse his power to make sure he never had to face justice."

Laura Bush only ran over her drug dealer, that doesn't count? I wouldn't bring that up but the Ted Kennedy b.s. is too old and moldy to still be bring up. At least Laura Bush is still alive.

#57 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-13 08:37 AM | Reply

"Obama joking is always cringey as he is such a fake person that he doesn't know who he is anymore."

Obama demonstrated great humor on many occasions, those with brains clouded with Obama Hatred Syndrome would have missed that. Al Green anyone?

#58 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-13 08:39 AM | Reply

One might think that after Republican criminals and traitors...-#23 | Posted by Corky at 2018-04-12 01:11 PM
When you can't discuss the subject at hand, fall back on whataboutism.

#59 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-04-13 08:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bill was a much more effective president and he actually worked with the Republicans. Must be a lesson there.

#60 | Posted by MSgt at 2018-04-13 10:55 AM | Reply

Bill was a much more effective president and he actually worked with the Republicans. Must be a lesson there.

#60 | POSTED BY MSGT

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Bill accomplished more and he spent 75% of his time chasing fat chicks. Barry is the Democrat W. Bush. A total failure at everything he touched. Was given the peace prize then attacked nation after nation. Was supposed to make the US a post-racial nation and instead turned back race relations 50 years. Was supposed to get tough on Wall Street and prosecuted NO ONE. Was supposed to be the most transparent presidency then you must pass the bill to know what is in it. Total, total failure. At this point, I want to see a 23andMe proving he is half-black as that is his only accomplishment and we can't simply take his word for it after Rachel Dolazol and Talcum X.

#61 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-04-13 11:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

^ REX showing he is a racist for all to see. ^
Just call him the "N-word already.....you know you want to!

#62 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-04-13 11:20 AM | Reply

62

or he could just throw in the towel and call someone a racist......like some career losers around here.

#63 | Posted by eberly at 2018-04-13 11:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Just call him the "N-word already.....you know you want to!

#62 | POSTED BY ABORTED_MONSON

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What is more racist - me correctly pointing out his only lasting accomplishment is being half-black, or you grading him on some affirmative action grading scale scale due to your belief that blacks can not be held to the standards as whites as they are inferior somehow? I think you show your true colors.

#64 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-04-13 11:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Barry is the Democrat W. Bush. A total failure at everything he touched. "

Yeah, cuz he inherited a great economy and turned it into crap. And he didn't pass Obamacare. And he didn't pull 90% of the troops out of Iraq. And he didn't greatly reduce the deficit. And he wasn't confronted with the most obstructionist Congress in history.

Racist. Yes you are, you won't admit it but you are.

#65 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-13 11:34 AM | Reply

"What is more racist - me correctly pointing out his only lasting accomplishment is being half-black,"

No, you're not racist, not at all. Hilarious!

#66 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-13 11:37 AM | Reply

Obama tops list of most admired people in US, beating Trump

thehill.com

This bit of info won't make the orange diaper sniper happy.

#67 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2018-04-13 11:37 AM | Reply

Yeah, cuz he inherited a great economy and turned it into crap.

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Did nothing to make it better and hindered the recovery by what he did do. Also, ZERO prosecutions and reinforced too big to fail.

And he didn't pass Obamacare.

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You see this as a plus? Obamacare is a disaster. Given they had control of the entire government, they should have gone for single-payer instead of the disaster that is Obamacare.

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And he didn't pull 90% of the troops out of Iraq.

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Should have done it day 1 and when he did pull troops, he did it in such a stupid way that it led to ISIS, which he then refused to confront until they destabilized the region and began sex slave auctions.

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And he didn't greatly reduce the deficit.

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$10T in new debt...no, he did no such thing.

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And he wasn't confronted with the most obstructionist Congress in history.

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Even when the Dems controlled everything and he still got nothing done?

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Racist. Yes you are, you won't admit it but you are.

#65 | POSTED BY DANNI

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Everyone is a racist, it is the degree that matters. You clearly feel blacks should not be judged by the same standards as white. I think that is pretty offensive.

#68 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-04-13 11:48 AM | Reply

#68

Rex BuytHurt strikes again! He posts like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh's illegitimate child.

#69 | Posted by Corky at 2018-04-13 12:00 PM | Reply

Obama's Top 50 Accomplishments

washingtonmonthly.com

#70 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-04-13 12:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"$10T in new debt...no, he did no such thing."

Bush fought the war off budget, Obama included it in the budget. He also inherited Bush's destroyed economy, it cost money to fix it. However, in his second term he did, in fact, reduce the deficit.

"Barack Obama claims deficit has decreased by two-thirds since taking office

www.politifact.com

#71 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-13 12:28 PM | Reply

"You see this as a plus? Obamacare is a disaster. Given they had control of the entire government, they should have gone for single-payer instead of the disaster that is Obamacare."

Wouldn't have passed Congress, remember Joe (I'm owned by the insurance lobby) Lieberman?

#72 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-13 12:31 PM | Reply

The gays will remember Obama.

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-04-13 12:35 PM | Reply

Osama bin Laden won't remember Obama.

#74 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-04-13 12:48 PM | Reply

The gays will remember Obama.

#73 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

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Larry Sinclair does.

#75 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-04-13 12:53 PM | Reply

"Barack Obama claims deficit has decreased by two-thirds since taking office
www.politifact.com

#71 | POSTED BY DANNI

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Bush the disaster added $6T to the national debt. Obama the disaster (aka half-black Bush) added $10T. Yet, you morons think he decreased the deficit by 2/3rds by cherrypicking your data. You should have more integrity than that.

#76 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-04-13 12:59 PM | Reply

(aka half-black Bush) #76 | POSTED BY REX_BUYT

You should have more integrity than that.

#77 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-04-13 01:00 PM | Reply

Racist. Yes you are, you won't admit it but you are.

#65 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2018-04-13 11:34 AM | FLAG:

No, you're not racist, not at all. Hilarious!

#66 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2018-04-13 11:37 AM | FLAG:

This was Obama's most lasting legacy, if you were critical of any thing he did you were labeled a racist or an uncle Tom. Because of it real racism has become watered down. Not as much Obama's fault but the fault of people like Danni.

#78 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-04-13 01:05 PM | Reply

"How the US public was defrauded by the hidden cost of the Iraq war"

www.theguardian.com

#79 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-13 01:21 PM | Reply

Obama's legacy is no Hope and Change in the Dem party.

#80 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-04-13 03:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I clicked on this click bait thread to see how many times the word "racist" came up.
Then I went to the other threads to see how many of the accusers used the word referring to the color ORANGE.
The orange calling racists won.

#81 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2018-04-13 03:43 PM | Reply

thread status

#82 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-04-13 03:52 PM | Reply

It becomes clearer every day that Barack Obama, a historic president, presided over a somewhat less than historic presidency. With only one major legislative achievement (Obamacare) -- and a fragile one at that -- the legacy of Obama's presidency mainly rests on its tremendous symbolic importance and the fate of a patchwork of executive actions.

I don't think the ACA is as "fragile" and the clowns wish it were.

Its like all the other "liberal agenda's" blathering fits... all just more clownish ghost stories ... nonsense.

You don't scare us pigbrains.

#83 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2018-04-13 08:10 PM | Reply

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