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Thursday, April 12, 2018

Weeks before the world saw the bodies of men, women, and children dead from an apparent Syrian military chemical attack in Douma, Syria, the Russian military was already spreading bizarre conspiracy theories about an impending "false flag" chemical attack carried out by rebels. Russian conspiracy propaganda and truther chum have been a staple of official discourse whenever Moscow wants to cover up bad behavior by its allies in Damascus. When the Assad regime used sarin nerve agents on the town of Khan Sheikhoun in 2017, Russian officials accused Syrian first responders -- a group known as the White Helmets -- of fabricating the attacks -- saying it was impossible to explain otherwise how the group "managed to work for such a long period of time and remain alive without gas masks and special protection equipment" while documenting the attack.

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I don't understand exactly why a gas attack is worse than a barrel bomb. Why does one type of attack gives us some moral authority to attack Syrian military installations but the other one doesn't. The Assad regime has been openly bombing hospitals for years and we didn't do anything about it, now an attack that killed less than 100 people has us ready to go to war with Russia? Our leadership doesn't have the moral authority to even know when we, as a nation, should get involved in the affairs of other nations but is willing to risk war with Russia just to defer accusations of collusion during our election process. Trump is a traitor and no missiles fired into the helpless Syrians will change that.
Grow up America, we have a traitor in the WH, before we start attacking anyone let's deal with our own mess.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 09:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

The United States has zero moral authority after openly supporting Israeli genocide.

#2 | Posted by 726 at 2018-04-12 10:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

It makes no sense for Assad to have done this.

I suspect a stash of chlorine was hit by artillery, or the rebels did it themselves.

#3 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-04-12 01:02 PM | Reply

It makes no sense for Assad to have done this.
I suspect a stash of chlorine was hit by artillery, or the rebels did it themselves.

#3 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Fear. That's why you gas civilian populations. Living under Assad is better than dying miserably in rebellion. You gas the civilians to get them to no longer offer material support to the rebels. And it sends a strong message to other civilian populations supporting the rebels.

#4 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-04-12 03:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#3 | Posted by SheepleSchism

There are a LOT of reasons Assad has to do this. Sycophant pointed out just one. Look Assad's actual military personnel are depleted and have been. Hezbollah, Iranians and Russians are doing much of the fighting because he doesn't have enough people. He and his supporters have a win at all costs mentality as well they are not and have not been above slaughter of civilians and chemical weapons from day one.

This is a proxy war if ever there was one and Trump is ready to run away and surrender to Russia and Iran, it's not like even Obama did anything about the wholesale slaughter of innocents that the Syrian's and Russians have been perpetrating. Turkey stands no chance and even they are opposing our position. After his tough talk isn't all that just shocking? I say arm the Kurds to the teeth and let them slug it out with Turkey and the Assadites. You know Turkey will end up tangling with Assad and Co as well... Here is one really funny thing I find interesting the GOP congressman didn't go all ballistic on Trump when he fired missiles on Assad and now that he is threatening again they are mute - but they sure made a big deal about Obama threatening it.

#5 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-04-12 04:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Our leadership doesn't have the moral authority to even know when we, as a nation, should get involved in the affairs of other nations but is willing to risk war with Russia just to defer accusations of collusion during our election process. Trump is a traitor and no missiles fired into the helpless Syrians will change that.
Grow up America, we have a traitor in the WH, before we start attacking anyone let's deal with our own mess.

#1 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2018-04-12 09:28 AM | REPLY | NEWSWORTHY 4

The left are the ones screaming for war here. What are you talking about?

#6 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-04-12 04:03 PM | Reply

The left are the ones screaming for war here. What are you talking about?

#6 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Show us where, Snowflake. Show us where they are asking to invade. I'm sure you have evidence, right?

#7 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-04-12 04:08 PM | Reply

the rebels did it themselves.
#3 | Posted by SheepleSchism

So how are things in Moscow these days?

#8 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2018-04-12 04:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sheepschuht jumps to Russia's defense again.

#9 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2018-04-12 04:51 PM | Reply

The left are the ones screaming for war here. What are you talking about?

#6 | POSTED BY Comrade Fishypaws AT 2018-04-12 04:03 PM

You're So full of fecal matter your eyes are brown.
The only ones screaming for war 24/7 are you alt-right Nazi types.

#10 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-04-12 05:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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We have NO authority to go in there and play world police.
OH CRAP.
Sheepledingle writes that I have to be for war so I had better get with the program.

KILL THEM ALL!

#11 | Posted by e1g1 at 2018-04-12 05:06 PM | Reply

Even Glenn Greenwald is reporting that the Russians are behind this, and... wait for it... even Russian Bear Extraordinaire Bay Viking Nutcase, who first reported Greenwald's reluctant admissions, seems to agree to that probability.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2018-04-12 05:09 PM | Reply

It makes no sense for Assad to have done this.

I suspect a stash of chlorine was hit by artillery, or the rebels did it themselves.

#3 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Do you take putin's side on EVERYTHING?

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-04-12 05:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- Even Glenn Greenwald is reporting

I hope he's seen evidence, because nobody on this site has.

If Assad dropped a chlorine bomb, then US intel has sat photos and video.
We have U2 spy planes all over the area watching every move.

If we're going to fire missiles at another country, we need to know for certain why.

The last WMD lies led us into a never ending war. Why should we not demand evidence before engaging our military?

#14 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-04-12 05:52 PM | Reply

I was accused of being unfair to link Sheep to defense of gassing children. Yet here we are again.

Apparently I am the one who is pathogenic or something.

#15 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-04-12 07:57 PM | Reply

#15

So because I was against the Iraq War and much of the Iraq war was centered on "evidence" of WMDs and their use against the Kurds, that means I was also defending Saddam gassing the Kurds?

Is that how that works?

#16 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-04-12 08:39 PM | Reply

So because I was against the Iraq War and much of the Iraq war was centered on "evidence" of WMDs and their use against the Kurds, that means I was also defending Saddam gassing the Kurds?
Is that how that works?

#16 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

Welcome to my life on the Retort, Beach.

Sorry you had to experience it.

#17 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 08:44 PM | Reply

#16 No, you idiot.

#18 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-04-12 08:45 PM | Reply

#17 Your life is nothing like Rsty. You have your own issues.

#19 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-04-12 08:46 PM | Reply

#16 Obviously you see that as your emotional burden. Why?

#20 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-04-12 08:46 PM | Reply

Classic false flag attack. I would suspect an Israeli or Saudi operation. No way Assad did this as the war is basically won at this point and the repercussions from this attack far, far, far outweigh and positive result from the attack. Assad has constantly offered safe passage for civilians and the rebels have always held them back as human shields. Saudi and Israel are the big losers in Syria with Iran's biggest ally sitting on their border. Meanwhile Saudi's have bankrupted themselves fighting in Yemen to stop Shiite advancement over the fear that their Shiites will demand autonomy as well so they don't want to see Iran/Syria win. They both want US involvement to confront Iran in a proxy war in Syria. There is nothing for Assad to gain and there is ZERO for the US to gain by attacking Syria over this false flag.

#21 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-04-13 11:16 AM | Reply

Classic false flag attack.
#21 | POSTED BY REX_BUYT

Well at least we know who is the Russian paid poster now.

RCade, where is the Ban Hammer? This has gotten too obvious.

#22 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-04-13 02:20 PM | Reply

Wow I never thot I'd see people defending the gas poisoning of civilians.
I was wrong.

#23 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2018-04-13 03:45 PM | Reply

"Wow I never thot I'd see people defending the gas poisoning of civilians."

I like how you specified gas poisoning.

That takes the poisoning of Flint's water by Republicans off the table.

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-04-13 03:51 PM | Reply

Well at least we know who is the Russian paid poster now.
RCade, where is the Ban Hammer? This has gotten too obvious.

#22 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

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Oh no! People use logic and don't just regurgitate MSNBC talking points. Free thinkers can only mean one thing - Russians!

Damn you Libs have become a stupid bunch. Now, you care to address content or do you need Rachel Maddow to tell you what to think first?

#25 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-04-13 09:39 PM | Reply

"No way Assad did this as the war is basically won at this point and the repercussions from this attack far, far, far outweigh and positive result from the attack"

What negative repercussions, you making fun of Obama for his Red Line?
Yeah I'm sure Assad hated that.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-04-13 09:42 PM | Reply

What negative repercussions, you making fun of Obama for his Red Line?
Yeah I'm sure Assad hated that.

#26 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

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Obama's red line was a joke. Anything the US does as a response now is small in comparison to the global reaction against Assad. The world had more or less accepted that he will stay on. The US/Allies had more of less accepted he won and were pulling out troops. Now, all of that is back on the table. And for what? What did he gain by killing people will gas over killing them with conventional means? The math does not work making this move too stupid for Assad to have done it. On the other hand, the math for this being a false flag is right on the money.

#27 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-04-13 09:58 PM | Reply

"What did he gain by killing people will gas over killing them with conventional means"

It's a lot easier.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-04-13 10:01 PM | Reply

"On the other hand, the math for this being a false flag is right on the money."

Vernon's calculator strikes again!

Who flagged it, Trump, Putin, Netanyahu? LOL!

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-04-13 10:03 PM | Reply

"What did he gain by killing people will gas over killing them with conventional means"
It's a lot easier.

#28 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2018-04-13 10:01 PM | FLAG:

That varies by situation. But easier or not, it was certainly more frightening.

#30 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-04-13 10:05 PM | Reply

It's a lot easier.

#28 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

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That is not even true. If the goal was to kill civilians (which would be the goal of using gas), it is easier to motar the residential buildings or using an airstrike.

So, is that your entire explanation? Assad used what might be a slightly easier approach because he wanted to kill civilians despite the obvious and known global reaction for doing so? Really? You must be even dumber than the intelligence that you assign to Assad.

#31 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-04-13 10:17 PM | Reply

It makes no sense for Assad to have done this.
I suspect a stash of chlorine was hit by artillery, or the rebels did it themselves.

#3 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHIS

Oh no! People use logic and don't just regurgitate MSNBC talking points. Free thinkers can only mean one thing - Russians!
Damn you Libs have become a stupid bunch. Now, you care to address content or do you need Rachel Maddow to tell you what to think first?

#25 | POSTED BY REX_BUYT

The pentagon reports that Russian trolls have increased their efforts at disinformation by %2000. Pooty Poot wants to thank you for your contributions to their efforts.

#32 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-04-14 09:52 AM | Reply

The greatest threat to Assad is his own people rebelling against his rule. Rebels don't wear uniforms. They bkend in with the populace. Assad knew where they were but had no way to separate rebel from civilian so in his mind the safe play waa to kill everyone

#33 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-04-14 10:36 AM | Reply

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