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Thursday, April 12, 2018

Ten Million Pounds of biowaste has been sitting in more than 200 abandoned rail cars in Alabama for almost two months. The small town of Parrish, Alabama is home to nearly 1,000 residents who say the stench from waste is wafting through the air, CNN reported, and it "smells like dead bodies," one resident told WVTM13. However, the waste does not belong to Parrish's residents. A New Jersey and multiple New York waste management companies have been shipping the biowaste to Big Sky Environmental, a private landfill in Adamsville, Alabama, which has been operating a solid waste disposal facility. In January, however, the nearby town of West Jefferson filed an injunction to stop the waste from being stored in the rail yard.

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"10M Pounds of Human Waste is Stuck in Alabama"

So theirs a big GOP get together in Alabama right now?

#1 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2018-04-12 05:20 AM | Reply

I thought maybe AF1 had mechanical problems and had to land in Alabama.

#2 | Posted by 726 at 2018-04-12 07:04 AM | Reply

Blue states shipping their crap to red states and somehow y'all manage to still blame republicans.

#3 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2018-04-12 07:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Do the railroads have suitable containers for this mess? Anaerobic digestion produces odorless methane with the potential for explosion and putrid mercaptans. Conventional sewage treatment systems control the digestion process and its waste gases.

#4 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-04-12 07:54 AM | Reply

#3 Red states have to provide some service to compensate blue states for supporting them ya know. If all they have to offer is a place to dump our ----, whose fault is that?

#5 | Posted by 726 at 2018-04-12 08:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Where "in the town" is it parked?

#6 | Posted by fresno500 at 2018-04-12 08:12 AM | Reply

Send the train to Los Angeles, they would not notice 10 million more pounds on the streets.

#7 | Posted by docnjo at 2018-04-12 08:28 AM | Reply

Privatization, you can smell it.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 09:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Blue states shipping their crap to red states and somehow y'all manage to still blame republicans.

Had you read the article, you'd know that it's a lack of zoning laws in the town where the waste sits that is allowing it to sit there. Small government at it's finest.

#9 | Posted by JOE at 2018-04-12 09:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"Had you read the article, you'd know that it's a lack of zoning laws in the town where the waste sits that is allowing it to sit there. Small government at it's finest."

But, why was it shipped instead of being processed in its original location? Somewhere in this story is the profit motive convincing the people in charge, back in NJ or NY, that it would be cheaper to ship tons of crap 1,000 miles on a train than to just process it locally in a municipal waste treatment plant.
The concept of a private landfill for waste like this is disgusting and the EPA (haha under Pruitt) should have prevented this from even being an idea.

#10 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 09:33 AM | Reply

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New Jersey is Terraforming the South so they will feel at home when they move there.

#11 | Posted by HanoverFist at 2018-04-12 10:00 AM | Reply

Somewhere in this story is the profit motive convincing the people in charge, back in NJ or NY, that it would be cheaper to ship tons of crap 1,000 miles on a train than to just process it locally in a municipal waste treatment plant.

I'm sure all them job killing regulations in NY and NJ makes it cheaper to pollute the air with human waste in Alabama. That is conservatism that you can smell.

#12 | Posted by 726 at 2018-04-12 10:04 AM | Reply

I'm sure this train smells better than the Duck Dynasty guys.

#13 | Posted by 726 at 2018-04-12 10:05 AM | Reply

This Alabama town is suffering but this train passed through many states and past many towns and cities on its way there, this could have been a disaster anywhere along the way. Transporting waste like this should be against federal law.

#14 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 10:20 AM | Reply

Under Scott Pruitt? Ha!

#15 | Posted by 726 at 2018-04-12 10:39 AM | Reply

The ------ choo-choo...

#16 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-04-12 10:50 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

My question is, who in Alabama agreed to and signed off on this?

#17 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-04-12 11:44 AM | Reply

My question is, who in Alabama agreed to and signed off on this?

#17 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Alabama didn't. The private company in Alabama did.

This is what happens when "Regulations are evil".

#18 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-04-12 12:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So, I take it from this headline that Trump visited Alabama?

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2018-04-12 01:27 PM | Reply

Chuga Chuga poo poo.

#20 | Posted by Tor at 2018-04-12 01:49 PM | Reply

www.independent.co.uk

A fitting label for the train cars lol

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2018-04-12 01:50 PM | Reply

Blue states shipping their crap to red states and somehow y'all manage to still blame republicans.

#3 | POSTED BY TAOWARRIOR

I bet it was Republicans who signed the deal to take it.

#22 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2018-04-12 02:05 PM | Reply

The town should sue the companies that shipped the waste for billions of dollars.

#23 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 02:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why? It's not their fault the receiving company couldn't handle the volume they agreed to.

#24 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2018-04-12 02:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I think it couldn't have happened to a nicer, more progessive state. I can see the new official motto on their license plates now. "Alabama The Poop Train State." Maybe even a NASCAR franchise.

#25 | Posted by paltroon1 at 2018-04-12 02:29 PM | Reply

I don't see the big deal here. Google tells me that an acre of soil weighs about 2 million pounds. So find about 10 acres well away from the town, and spread the waste evenly over the 10 acres. Lightly cover it with loose soil, and let it compost for about 3 years, tilling it occasionally. After about 3 years, bacteria will break down anything hazardous, and there will be 10 acres of great farm land for planting crops.

#26 | Posted by MarcNBarrett at 2018-04-12 02:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Oops. progressive.

#27 | Posted by paltroon1 at 2018-04-12 02:30 PM | Reply

"Why? It's not their fault the receiving company couldn't handle the volume they agreed to."

So, if they hired a guy with a station wagon and he couldn't get they job done then they are absolved of responsibility? I don't think so, perhaps they have some legal loop hole to exempt them from responsibility but they should not be able to escape liability. Their business model should be illegal.

#28 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 02:31 PM | Reply

A blue state dumping its crap, literally, on a "deplorable," "fly-over" red state. Pretty symbolic of the attitude of the blue bi-coastal bubble.

#29 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-04-12 02:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Danni the waste has been treated. Your own state transports and dumps it in fields as fertilizer.

#30 | Posted by patron at 2018-04-12 02:43 PM | Reply

A blue state dumping its crap, literally, on a "deplorable," "fly-over" red state. Pretty symbolic of the attitude of the blue bi-coastal bubble.

#29 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

A Red State company asked Blue State companies to hire them to do something, the Blue State Companies agree, and you are angry at the Blue States?

You are a sad little man.

#31 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-04-12 02:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Come for the lynchings, stay for the ----!
#visitparrish

#32 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-04-12 03:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 5

"Danni the waste has been treated. Your own state transports and dumps it in fields as fertilizer."

You want it shipped to your neighborhood? You want a spill to happen in your town? Why can't NY and NJ build waste treatment plants and deal with it locally?

#33 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 03:23 PM | Reply

It's supposed to go to a private landfill. Why is it just sitting in railroad cars?

#34 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 03:32 PM | Reply

Why can't NY and NJ build waste treatment plants and deal with it locally?

Apparently they prefer to pay Alabama to deal with it.

What is befuddling is why Alabama isn't disposing of it. Nick Saban should threaten to retire if it isn't dealt with. Were he to do that that crap will be disposed of yesterday (not a typo).

#35 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 03:36 PM | Reply

Come for the lynchings, stay for the ----!
#visitparrish

#32 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE

Now that is funny. Nice one. God Bless Alabama.

#36 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-04-12 03:37 PM | Reply

Blue states shipping their crap to red states and somehow y'all manage to still blame republicans.
#3 | POSTED BY TAOWARRIOR

Come on Tao, you're smarter than this, or you're trolling.

If blue states are shipping their crap to red states, it's because Republicans are short sighted and jumped at the immediate profit to be gained rather than looking at the long term effect of the deal.

It's why the Trump Administration is opening up federal lands to corporations and why the Republican Congress passed that insane tax cut for the rich.

Immediate profits supersede real life consequences.

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-04-12 03:38 PM | Reply

--Send the train to Los Angeles, they would not notice 10 million more pounds on the streets.

Or San Francisco, a progressive utopia.

#38 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-04-12 03:41 PM | Reply

A blue state dumping its crap, literally, on a "deplorable," "fly-over" red state. Pretty symbolic of the attitude of the blue bi-coastal bubble.

No one is dumping anything, it was an agreed upon exchange for a cash transaction.

Capitalism at its finest.

But at least you got to whine and use your favorite catch phrases.

#39 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-04-12 03:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

--Send the train to Los Angeles, they would not notice 10 million more pounds on the streets.
Or San Francisco, a progressive utopia.

#38 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

I see you dodged #31, Snowflake. Maybe its time you considered changing your handle.

#40 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-04-12 03:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Why can't NY and NJ build waste treatment plants and deal with it locally?

Because it was cheaper to ship it to Alabama.

Again, capitalism at its finest.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-04-12 03:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--Why can't NY and NJ build waste treatment plants and deal with it locally?

What a concept! States building and maintaining their own infrastructure by taxing their own citizens, rather than begging for taxpayer money from the Feds.

#42 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-04-12 03:50 PM | Reply

--Why can't NY and NJ build waste treatment plants and deal with it locally?
What a concept! States building and maintaining their own infrastructure by taxing their own citizens, rather than begging for taxpayer money from the Feds.

#42 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

No, we are talking about New York and New Jersey. They pay in FAR more than they get back in Federal dollars spent in their state.

Alabama on the other gets back FAR more than they pay in.

Any other idiotic things you want to post today?

#43 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-04-12 03:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Why can't NY and NJ build waste treatment plants and deal with it locally?

They have some of the biggest treatment plants in the country. They like others have run out of room. There are more dangerous things transported than treated sludge. L.A. having a large population like NY has run out of room also. But we have lots of open space so we can ship by rail to open spaces in our own state. You think this is something sinister and people should be sued. Next time you go to the park don't be surprised the grass you're rolling in has been water with your own treated sewage water. Here in my liberal controlled state treated sewage water is used to also replace ground water. It's not a repub or dem thing, people ---- and it has to go somewhere.
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#44 | Posted by patron at 2018-04-12 04:00 PM | Reply

#29 you act as if the trains just showed up one day.

If you were honest (big if), you'd see that this is a great example of a southern state treating its citizens like crap to make a buck.

#45 | Posted by jpw at 2018-04-12 04:01 PM | Reply

This municipal sludge/poo was to be buried in a landfill, which is the least environmentally damaging method to dispose of your byproduct of eating.

Land application of sludge is another common disposal method but is rife with negative issues. Nasty bio accumulative heavy metals are usually present in municipal sludge due to industrial waste streams mixed in. The industry was swayed towards these disposal methods over incineration twenty years ago. Land application should only be done on tree crops that are subsequently processed into toilet paper.*

Enjoy your mercury in high fructose corn syrup.

One solution to this is stop eating....

A bidet would reduce sludge quantities - who here thinks swiping a piece of paper across your sphincter is a good cleaning method? Do you clean your dishes with a paper towel?

BTW municipal sludge is municipal sludge, not that fancy new speak term they are pushing lately...Biobullsheit....

and thank you physics for my free gravity - it settles everything in life.

#46 | Posted by mutant at 2018-04-12 04:26 PM | Reply

JPW - the new york region has been exporting this sewage sludge for decades along with the trash after they had to stop dumping into the atlantic twenty miles out. The closer states are all filled up I reckon. Indiana and Ohio are considered close landfill destinations. This happens due to many economic reasons but do not fall for the lack of capacity fallacy - it's all about the cash corruption as this is big bucks in city budgets. For example Michigan imports megatons of trash from the leafs in metro toronto. Michigan also had a huge case in which a new trash hauler cornered the market by lining politicians pockets - The FBI is currently dismantling Macomb county's mess. I could go on all afternoon but I want to go outside to enjoy the rest of the day since global warming made it go from 33 yesterday to 76 today.

Trash and sludge are just commodities to haul for a buck to the railroads, ships, and trucks. local schmucks can not interfere with interstate commerce either, which is a good thing.

blah blah

#47 | Posted by mutant at 2018-04-12 04:41 PM | Reply

"A bidet would reduce sludge quantities - who here thinks swiping a piece of paper across your sphincter is a good cleaning method?"

#48 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 04:48 PM | Reply

Oops, wasn't ready to post that, watching TV while I post.

I was just going to say that perhaps bidets should be given a tax write off so that more people would install them if it would reduce the sludge quantities and be better for people too.

#49 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 04:52 PM | Reply

No, we are talking about New York and New Jersey. They pay in FAR more than they get back in Federal dollars spent in their state.

Alabama on the other gets back FAR more than they pay in.

Any other idiotic things you want to post today?

#43 | Posted by Sycophant

WTF does that have to do with them sending their waste to a commercial disposal facility?

#50 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-04-13 12:42 PM | Reply

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