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Wednesday, April 11, 2018

House Speaker Paul Ryan is not seeking re-election and will retire from Congress after this year, the Wisconsin Republican announced Wednesday. "You realize something when you take this job," Ryan told reporters on Capitol Hill on Wednesday morning. "It's a big job with a lot riding on you ... but you also know this is not a job that does not last forever. ... You realize you hold the office for just a small part of our history. So you better make the most of it."

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Now that he sent deficits spiraling with his corporate Christmas give away, he can get out and collect his payback. Good Riddance!

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Lyin' Ryan saying "adios"? Wow...

#1 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-04-11 09:33 AM | Reply

I heard he plans on mounting a desperate search for his long lost spine.

#2 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2018-04-11 09:36 AM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 4

Apparently there may be something in there that toting the current party line wear's down in even the likes of Ryan.

#3 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-04-11 09:44 AM | Reply


What else is on the To Do list his wealthy donors gave to him?

He pushed through the tax cut they bought. He delivered the goods, so his obligation to them is complete.

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-04-11 09:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He heard they are going to bring back "The Munsters" and he needs to reprise his role as Eddie.

#5 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-11 10:00 AM | Reply

"He pushed through the tax cut they bought. He delivered the goods, so his obligation to them is complete."

Now he will get hired by a lobbying firm and get paid big time for his deeds.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-11 10:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

The rat drilled a huge hole in the budget and are now fleeing the sinking ship.

#7 | Posted by 726 at 2018-04-11 10:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He delivered the goods, so his obligation to them is complete.

He was also going to lose to Ironstache.

#8 | Posted by 726 at 2018-04-11 10:17 AM | Reply

Cashes Out

That's the perfect headline.

#9 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2018-04-11 11:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I heard he plans on mounting a desperate search for his long lost spine.

#2 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood

"Indiana Jones and the Temple of Jelly

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2018-04-11 11:40 AM | Reply

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Banner headline. This speaks volumes of the current state of political affairs in Congress and the GOP under Trump. Hopefully Ryan will now just stay out of the picture henceforth.

#11 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-04-11 11:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Paul Ryan did what he came to DC to do:

Push through huge tax cuts for the wealthy that will create huge deficits, which will then be used to justify cutting all those pesky social safety net programs. (The very programs his own family benefitted from when he was a kid and his father died.)

Mission accomplished! So much winning!

#12 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-04-11 11:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Ryan's legacy? Wasn't it basically just saying over and over: "Look, I don't want to do racism, but if that's what we have to do to give more money to the rich then I guess we have to do it."

#13 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2018-04-11 12:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Px90 or the marathon lie are his legacy

#14 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-04-11 12:36 PM | Reply

Px90 or the marathon lie are his legacy

#14 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE

And a $2 trillion increase in the national debt despite preaching fiscal responsibility.

#15 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-04-11 01:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

What else is on the To Do list his wealthy donors gave to him?

He pushed through the tax cut they bought. He delivered the goods, so his obligation to them is complete.

#4 | Posted by LampLighter

Now it's time to go take a "job" from one of the plutocrats whose taxes he just cut.

He accomplished the task he was assigned, now he gets to cash in.

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-04-11 01:02 PM | Reply

He might even earn a dollar that isn't directly funded by the taxpayers. His school, childhood, and entire career have been funded by John Q public

#17 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-04-11 01:05 PM | Reply

Ryan now enjoys the peace of mind that when he turns 50, in less than two years, he will enjoy a defined-benefits pension of about $79k annually for the rest of his life, funded by the same taxpayers whose Social Security he's been trying to cut or privatize his entire career.

#18 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2018-04-11 01:10 PM | Reply

And a $2 trillion increase in the national debt.

#15 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

Thanks to those most resent tax cuts it's likely to be more like 10-20 trillion over the next ten years.

#19 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2018-04-11 01:28 PM | Reply

Now it's time to go take a "job" from one of the plutocrats whose taxes he just cut.

That's how he knows trickle down works!

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2018-04-11 01:47 PM | Reply

LEE

Anybody who expected more from Ryan was their mistake, not his.

I do think he underestimated the amount of courage he'd need to do the job. So in that respect, yes, he failed. If there are any pangs of conscience on his part I'm sure they'll pass.

#21 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-04-11 01:48 PM | Reply

I do think he underestimated the amount of courage he'd need to do the job. So in that respect, yes, he failed. If there are any pangs of conscience on his part I'm sure they'll pass.

#21 | Posted by Twinpac

He was a complete success. He accomplished the only thing he ever cared about. Even when his tax cuts collapse the economy he'll still be proud of what he did and blame the democrats somehow.

#22 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-04-11 01:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bartleby the Speaker

By retiring, Paul Ryan confirms his approach to holding President Trump accountable: He would prefer not to.

Paul Ryan, like Herman Melville's Bartleby, would prefer not to.

He would prefer not to stick around much longer in an increasingly toxic Washington. He would prefer not to have to drag himself through another cycle of fundraisers. He would prefer not to have to grapple with a splintered caucus and conservatives who periodically threaten to depose him. He would prefer not to risk losing the speakership, should Republicans lose the House in November.

Most of all, however, one gets the sense that he would prefer not to have to deal with President Trump.

www.theatlantic.com

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2018-04-11 02:03 PM | Reply

Ryan talked about retiring 2 years ago. This is hardly surprising.

#24 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-11 02:21 PM | Reply

To Ryan's credit he is a genuinely good guy. He's neither corrupt nor crooked. He communicated well and wasn't prone to demagoguery. He was much more of a policy guy than a leader and he took the Speaker position because his party desperately needed him. He would have preferred to finish out his political career chairing the Ways and Means committee.

#25 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-11 02:29 PM | Reply

Ryan talked about retiring 2 years ago. This is hardly surprising.

#24 | Posted by JeffJ

No one is saying it's surprising. Everyone is saying its proof that all he was there to do was get tax cuts for the rich. Mission accomplished, peace out, good luck with that massive deficit I just created america!

#26 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-04-11 02:29 PM | Reply


@#25 ... To Ryan's credit he is ...

You left out one more, and what I think is the most important attribute of Spkr Ryan...

His seat was purchased by wealthy donors to enact tax cuts. Now that Spkr Ryan has given those wealthy donors a return on their investment, he can retire.

#27 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-04-11 02:33 PM | Reply

To Ryan's credit he is a genuinely good guy.

Yeah, in a soulless, give me mine and screw everybody else sort of way.

I can see that.

#28 | Posted by jpw at 2018-04-11 02:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

- he is a genuinely good guy.

That's hilarious. Ryan has been the corp and 1 percenters biggest cheerleader for years.

And he's a consummate liar....

www.politifact.com

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2018-04-11 02:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Yeah, in a soulless, give me mine and screw everybody else sort of way.
I can see that.

#28 | POSTED BY JPW

I'm talking about him as a person; not his policy preferences.

#30 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-11 02:45 PM | Reply

To Ryan's credit he is a genuinely good guy. He's neither corrupt nor crooked. He communicated well and wasn't prone to demagoguery. He was much more of a policy guy than a leader and he took the Speaker position because his party desperately needed him. He would have preferred to finish out his political career chairing the Ways and Means committee.

Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-11 02:29 PM | Reply

He's rotten to the core. He wanted to take the same benefits away that helped him launch his career. He's a slimeball through and through.

#31 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-04-11 02:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"House Speaker Paul Ryan's decision to retire has made for a wide-open race for his seat in Congress.

It's also, ironically, a "pickup opportunity" for Democrats – a contest that could help them retake control of the House in November.

It was Ryan who solidified the former swing district into firm GOP territory and his exit changes that.

"There's no natural heir apparent," said a Wisconsin GOP strategist about Ryan's 1st Congressional District.

And no natural heir means the Republican Party may have to deal with a multi-candidate primary, especially given that Ryan has held the seat for 20 years.

"We're going to have to fight to keep," said the strategist of the seat. "It should be ours but we're can't take it for granted."

There is one big name that could clear the primary field – former Republican National Committee chairman, ex-White House chief of staff, Ryan friend and Kenosha resident, Reince Priebus.

"The only way it doesn't get to a big primary is if Reince decides to run," the strategist said.

The Democrats have a strong contender in their quest to pick up 23 seats to retake control of the House of Representatives.

Randy Bryce, an ironworker and Army veteran, raised $2.1 million in the first quarter of 2018 and is part of the party's "Red to Blue" program, which is designed to give candidates who met certain criteria extra resources in their contests.

"Paul Ryan decided to quit today rather than face Randy Bryce and the voters," Bryce said in a statement.

Trump won the district by 10 points in 2016 but President Barack Obama won it in 2008.

abcnews.go.com

#32 | Posted by Corky at 2018-04-11 02:53 PM | Reply

Paul Ryan is the consummate fake "conservative" and represents well the twisted ideology as it is today

He has Never held a job outside of government and Social security financed his entire education.

His grandfather founded Ryan construction using seed money from the government, (i.e. New Deal Tax Dollars) and grew it to a national scale solely on Government Contracts

his story reads like a "conservative" whine about government elites, except in this case they claim he is a great guy and not a government parasite, (those "conservative principles" at work again)

#33 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-04-11 02:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Laura,

Which benefits did he seek to take away?

#34 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-11 02:56 PM | Reply

"I'm talking about him as a person"

You Don't Know Him "as a person", fool!
Do you do anything other than spread -------- you know nothing about?

#35 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-04-11 02:58 PM | Reply

I'm talking about him as a person; not his policy preferences.

#30 | Posted by JeffJ

How can you separate a person from their policy preferences?

It doesn't matter if someone is a nice daddy to their kids. If they spend their career helping the rich screw the poor, the are not a good person.

#36 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-04-11 02:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Which benefits did he seek to take away"

Ryan pushed a plan to privatize Social Security so extreme that even George W. Bush called it "irresponsible

you ------- tool!

#37 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-04-11 02:59 PM | Reply

Laura,

Which benefits did he seek to take away?

Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-11 02:56 PM | Reply

www.rawstory.com

Paul Ryan already benefited from the Social Security fund he now wants to gut

Ryan's so-called Roadmap for America's Future budget plan proposed machete-like cuts -- most notably to social services like Medicare and Social Security. Paul's idea was to invest portions of Social Security funds in Wall Street, essentially forcing future recipients to make unsecured investments with with money they'll later need for retirement -- and endangering survivor benefits like the ones he received.

"Ryan credits his father's death and the care of his grandmother as giving him first-hand experience as to how social service programs work," WI Magazine wrote, referencing his Alzheimer's-stricken grandmother, also a beneficiary of the social programs Ryan now opposes, who moved in with Ryan and his mother after his father died.

Without the Social Security benefits he received, Ryan would have had more difficulty attending college, and wouldn't have become "Wisconsin's fiscal dreamboat," as the profile dubs him, or, as Democrats nationwide have painted him, the Enemy Number 1 to seniors and social services.

#38 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-04-11 03:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Adam Schiff @RepAdamSchiff

The President considers firing the Attorney General, Deputy AG, and Special Counsel and the House Intel Chair considers impeaching the FBI Director -- all to obstruct an investigation into wrongdoing by the President or those around him.

@SpeakerRyan response: I'm outta here.
11:55 AM - 11 Apr 2018

#39 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-04-11 03:13 PM | Reply

I didn't agree with all of his policy prescriptions.

Keep in mind though, it was a policy proposal. I most vehemently disagreed with the partial privatization of SS. However, he did also call for means testing for SS and Medicare, which means the wealthy would receive less of a benefit. That is something that liberals and progressives normally favor.

#40 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-11 03:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and interest payments on this nation's debt are on a trajectory to bankrupt this country if nothing is done.

I would like to see 3 measures taken that form a nice compromise:

1. Slightly increase the age of eligibility for SS and Medicare.

2. Increase FICA by a half point on both sides.

3. Slightly increase the income subjected to FICA, say, by $5,000.

This addresses the unfunded liabilities by a combination of more revenue and lower costs.

#41 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-11 03:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Keep in mind though, it was a policy proposal. I most vehemently disagreed with the partial privatization of SS. However, he did also call for means testing for SS and Medicare, which means the wealthy would receive less of a benefit. That is something that liberals and progressives normally favor.

#40 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-11 03:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

Polishing those right winged turds. That's our JeffJ for you.

#42 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-04-11 03:20 PM | Reply

I'm talking about him as a person; not his policy preferences.

#30 | Posted by JeffJ

It's impossible to cleanly cut the two.

Or, you should be highly alarmed if he is a decent person in person but a completely dishonest, greedy sociopath professionally.

That's no the mark of a mentally stable individual.

#43 | Posted by jpw at 2018-04-11 03:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#41 What I prescribed isn't enough, but it's a good start and much more doable than what Ryan was proposing.

#44 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-11 03:21 PM | Reply


@#40 ... which means the wealthy would receive less of a benefit. ...

How much of a SS benefit do the wealthy currently receive? Is it as much as the tax cut they purchased from Spkr Ryan?

#45 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-04-11 03:22 PM | Reply

Polishing those right winged turds. That's our JeffJ for you.

#42 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

Means testing is a right winged turd? Really???

#46 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-11 03:22 PM | Reply

"Keep in mind though, it was a policy proposal."

OMG. How sad

as if "proposing" and "seeking" to have any daylight between them

here is my impression of jeffyj on any given day

today: To Ryan's credit he is a genuinely good guy.

next week: I never said he was a genuinely good guy

#47 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-04-11 03:27 PM | Reply

How much of a SS benefit do the wealthy currently receive? Is it as much as the tax cut they purchased from Spkr Ryan?

#45 | Posted by LampLighter

Too bad they didn't do "means testing" for the tax cuts. Instead they mostly went to those who didn't need them.

#48 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-04-11 03:30 PM | Reply

Ana Navarro @ananavarro

Paul Ryan has 8 months as Speaker. He's finally free of political chains. Time to put country over Party. He should remove Nunes from Intel Committee, have a vote on Dream Act, move legislation to protect Mueller, and denounce Trump's unpresidential actions & words at every turn.

#49 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-04-11 03:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Wisconsin is going hard blue in November, and Ryan is going to lose. Better to not be remembered as a loser (even though i'll always think of him as one).

#50 | Posted by JOE at 2018-04-11 03:35 PM | Reply

The mind of Jeff is why the GOP can keep preying on us in perpetuity.

He begins with sage advice: Ryan said he would do something, so it's not surprising that he did that thing

Then he launches into the cognitive dissonance: nothing he says actually signals his true (undeniably altruistic at that) intentions.

#51 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-04-11 04:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and interest payments on this nation's debt are on a trajectory to bankrupt this country if nothing is done.

Giving unnecessary tax cuts to the rich, continuing unnecessary wars in the Middle East, building unnecessary border walls, sending the Army Reserves to the border, throwing narcissistic military parades, giving BillJohnson Nd to other nations...

These things will bankrupt this country.

You should go spit on the person who gave you those lousy talking points about the horrors of Social Democracies.

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-04-11 04:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You should go spit on the person who gave you those lousy talking points about the horrors of Social Democracies.

#52 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

I didn't mention Social Democracies.

I was speaking about how the big-3 + interest on the debt are on a trajectory to exceed $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities.

That is an insurmountable problem if it doesn't get addressed. Rip on his proposed solutions all you like but Ryan was a very lonely voice in Washington sounding the alarm about this going back into the Bush administration.

#53 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-11 04:46 PM | Reply

Then he launches into the cognitive dissonance
#51 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

Now explain your outright lies when assigning false position.

#54 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-04-11 04:52 PM | Reply

throwing narcissistic military parades, giving BillJohnson Nd to other nations...

My autocorrect turned "billions" into "BillJohnson".

Which just gave me a good laugh.

#55 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-04-11 04:54 PM | Reply

I didn't mention Social Democracies

You mentioned your fear of social security, Medicaid and Medicare bankrupting our nation.

Yet turn a blind eye to the nonstop unnecessary tax cuts for the rich.

Ryan was a very lonely voice in Washington

What are you talking about? The rich have wanted to kill FDR's new deal since he proposed it.

It simply took decades of dumbing down the average American and buying the most corrupt politicians in order to do that.

Your boy Paul Ryan has a seat in hell reserved for him.

But he's such a good shill! Right, Jeff?

#56 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-04-11 04:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

the big-3 + interest on the debt are on a trajectory to exceed $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities

Continuing to drag this line out suggests you're not totally serious about this conversation.

#57 | Posted by jpw at 2018-04-11 05:06 PM | Reply

I see Ayn Rands idiot has done all the damage he can do in DC.

#58 | Posted by Tor at 2018-04-11 05:21 PM | Reply

Continuing to drag this line out suggests you're not totally serious about this conversation.

#57 | POSTED BY JPW A

The ones who aren't serious are the ones who have their heads buried in the sand about this country's unfunded liabilities.

#59 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-11 05:34 PM | Reply

The ones who aren't serious are the ones who have their heads buried in the sand about this country's unfunded liabilities.

One can recognize the flaws in the $100 trillion hyperbole without having their heads in the sand.

#60 | Posted by jpw at 2018-04-11 05:51 PM | Reply

"I was speaking about how the big-3 + interest on the debt are on a trajectory to exceed $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities."

Seeing as you're laser-beam focused on future unfunded liabilities, I can see why you were indifferent to choosing between a President that would start a trade war and build a wall vs. one that would not do either of those. Those things won't impact the economy at all. Nicely done.

#61 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-04-11 05:53 PM | Reply

"To Ryan's credit he is a genuinely good guy. "

Plus, he's an amazingly fast marathon runner! Oh right that was a lie. He's a genuinely good liar.

He's not a good guy. He's a piece of ----. Look at his legislative accomplishments, they're all ----.

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-04-11 06:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I was speaking about how the big-3 + interest on the debt are on a trajectory to exceed $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities.

Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-11 04:46 PM | Reply

Still peddling that bald faced lie I see. Both Social Security and Medicare can not legally have unfunded liabilities. They can only spend what they have on hand. Nothing beyond that.

#63 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-04-11 06:00 PM | Reply

"The ones who aren't serious are the ones who have their heads buried in the sand about this country's unfunded liabilities."

How did those people vote, you think?
With their heads not at all in the sand.

#64 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-04-11 06:00 PM | Reply

The ones who aren't serious are the ones who have their heads buried in the sand about this country's unfunded liabilities.

#59 | Posted by JeffJ

This country can probably pay for it if we tax the rich more and stop blowing a trillion dollars a year on the military. But ryan never wanted to deal with that, because his puppetmasters only allowed him to prescribe magical tax cuts as the BS solution for any problem. That and taking healthcare from poor and sick people.

#65 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-04-11 06:03 PM | Reply

"on a trajectory to exceed $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities."

If you're going to take the trajectory out longer than what actuaries consider "perpetuity", why not $100 gazillion?

#66 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-04-11 06:05 PM | Reply

Because he gets to do that Dr. Evil thing with his pinkie when he says "$100 trillion dollars."

#67 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-04-11 06:14 PM | Reply

Paul "Ayn Rand" Ryan got a sexual thrill out of taking resources away from those who needed them most.

#68 | Posted by Tor at 2018-04-11 06:18 PM | Reply

#63

Which means recipients receive far less than what they were promised.

#69 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-11 06:21 PM | Reply

#40

The maximum SS payment is $2639/mo no matter how much money you made while you were working. They paid in the same amount, up to the max, as everybody else who works on a payroll. The really rich don't pay SS tax on investment income. Trust fund babies neither pay the tax, nor receive the benefits. Means testing allows the ideologues to make SS a "welfare" program, and then it will be much easier to cut.

#70 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2018-04-11 06:24 PM | Reply

"The maximum SS payment is $2639/mo no matter how much money you made while you were working."

I saw a SS statement this year for $41,064.

Do the math for me, will you? How much is that a month?

#71 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-04-11 06:26 PM | Reply

""The maximum SS payment is $2639/mo"

At full retirement.

How much is it when beginning SS is delayed for four years?

#72 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-04-11 06:29 PM | Reply

Ryan is a genuinely good guy

He sold his soul to Donald Trump to cut taxes for billionaires. He's not a "good guy," he's a piece of human garbage.

#73 | Posted by JOE at 2018-04-11 06:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Joe,

Paul Ryan was a monster even before Trump ran for office.

#74 | Posted by Tor at 2018-04-11 06:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He's a liar who has bigger political ambitions unlike Pelosi who has ear worms.

#75 | Posted by wisgod at 2018-04-11 07:00 PM | Reply

He's a liar who has bigger political ambitions unlike Pelosi who has ear worms.

#75 | Posted by wisgod

He doesn't. His only political ambition was to get tax cuts for billionaires. He got it, now he's done with politics, and he's going to go take his bribe money rewards from the billionaires in some fake "consulting" job.

#76 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-04-11 07:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Paul Ryan Not Running for Re-Election

Sayonara douchebag, don't come back.

#77 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-04-11 07:21 PM | Reply

His only political ambition was to get tax cuts for billionaires. He got it, now he's done with politics, and he's going to go take his bribe money rewards from the billionaires in some fake "consulting" job.

#76 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Exactly,

Well said,

Beat me to it.

#78 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-04-11 07:22 PM | Reply

He's a liar who has bigger political ambitions unlike Pelosi who has ear worms.

#75 | POSTED BY WISGOD

Nancy Pelosi is standing right behind you, RUN!

#79 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-04-11 07:24 PM | Reply

Now explain your outright lies when assigning false position.

#54 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2018-04-11 04:52 PM | FLAG:

Of course. Give me any one. I happily admit wrong on here all the time.

#80 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-04-11 08:09 PM | Reply

Glad to see him go - part of draining the swamp. Hope he takes McConnell, McCain, and Limpwristed Lindsey with him. The GOP has a ton of horrible bought and paid for members solely looking to do the bidding of the corporatists and globalists.

#81 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-04-11 08:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Lyin' Ryan going, going, gone?!? SAD!
Lmfao

#82 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2018-04-12 06:21 AM | Reply

Ryan is a cowardly failure, he passed tax cuts which he pretends is tax reform. Deficits are already far beyond his own predictions. He doesn't know what he's talking about, yet has been worshiped by the MSM and many Republicans as their intellectual mentor. Ryan knows he'll lose his next election and is the first rat to abandon the Republican ship while still imagining he can make a comeback after the Trump fiasco passes. The worst speaker of the house in the history of this nation. He never once used his power to control Trump's criminal madness.

#83 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-04-12 07:46 AM | Reply

Taking the long view of the action, it seems to me the Republican Party has realized its leather jacket strap is caught on the driver's door handle. Cliff coming up rapidly! It will probably take years for real conservatism to emerge from the wilderness after this slow-motion train wreck.

#84 | Posted by Jimi_left at 2018-04-12 09:28 AM | Reply

"Ryan is a cowardly failure, he passed tax cuts which he pretends is tax reform."

He only succeeded because of the complicity of the corporate media which allowed tax cuts for the rich to be labelled as "tax reform." Without their complicity they could never have passed it. We will never have good government until we have unbiased media. If Democrats ever do actually succeed in gaining majorities in both houses and the Presidency again the first order of business should be reform of our media, breaking up too large corporate ownership, returning it to diversity of opinion. And we should do that no matter how loud the right screams, it is imperative to our democracy. We presently live in a nation that Joseph Goebbels would approve of, if he were still alive he'd be on Fox News every night right there next to Hannity.
Nazis. Yes, Hannity is a Nazi.

#85 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 09:41 AM | Reply

He's (Ryan) a liar who has bigger political ambitions

#75 | Posted by wisgod at 2018-04-

The man's a wimp, and the way he's resigning suggests that he's passively-aggressively visiting personal failure upon as many other Republicans as he can.

#86 | Posted by Zed at 2018-04-12 10:19 AM | Reply

Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and interest payments on this nation's debt are on a trajectory to bankrupt this country if nothing is done.
I would like to see 3 measures taken that form a nice compromise:
1. Slightly increase the age of eligibility for SS and Medicare.
2. Increase FICA by a half point on both sides.
3. Slightly increase the income subjected to FICA, say, by $5,000.
This addresses the unfunded liabilities by a combination of more revenue and lower costs.
#41 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2018-04-11 03:20 PM | FLAG:

So in exchange for $1,500,000,000,000 in tax cuts for the 1% your proposal is to increase taxes on workers by $814 per year after giving them a $1.50 per week tax cut.

How about a better idea.... lift the cap on earnings for social security. Every dollar at 12.4%. That would eliminate the funding gap.

How about making S Corp income subject to FICA tax?

#87 | Posted by 726 at 2018-04-12 12:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"The maximum SS payment is $2639/mo no matter how much money you made while you were working."

Nope. Not even close.

"The maximum Social Security benefit in 2018
Based on the formula above, the maximum primary insurance amount, or the benefit a retiree could receive at full retirement age, would be $2,788 per month, or $33,456 per year.

However, keep in mind that this assumes that the beneficiary claimed at full retirement age. To maximize your Social Security benefit, you'll need to wait until age 70 to claim. For an individual reaching this age in 2018, this would translate to a 32% increase in their monthly benefit, which translates to a maximum possible monthly Social Security retirement benefit of $3,680, or $44,162 per year."

www.fool.com

#88 | Posted by 726 at 2018-04-12 12:19 PM | Reply

"How about a better idea.... lift the cap on earnings for social security. Every dollar at 12.4%. That would eliminate the funding gap."

That our corporate media isn't telling us that highlights the problem we have in this country. The rich don't want us to even know what the solutions are. They want us to accept that "nothing can be done to fix it."

#89 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 12:28 PM | Reply

"I would like to see 3 measures taken that form a nice compromise:
1. Slightly increase the age of eligibility for SS and Medicare.
2. Increase FICA by a half point on both sides.
3. Slightly increase the income subjected to FICA, say, by $5,000.
This addresses the unfunded liabilities by a combination of more revenue and lower costs. "

Translation: I want a bandaid that prevents the 1% from being inconvenienced by taxes in the same percentages that the rest of us pay.

#90 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 12:30 PM | Reply

Translation: I want a bandaid that prevents the 1% from being inconvenienced by taxes in the same percentages that the rest of us pay.

#90 | POSTED BY DANNI

The 1% pay the very same percentage up to the cap. There is not nearly enough money in the 1% to confiscate to even put a dent in unfunded liabilities.

What I proposed is a combination of cost reduction and revenue increase. Seems like a fair compromise.

#91 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 12:33 PM | Reply

Another name that is being floated as a posible GOP replacemnet is Wisconsin Assembly Speaker Robin Voss. King of the local popcorn market. His problem is that he has a reputation of having a wandering eye.

#92 | Posted by SLBronkowitz at 2018-04-12 12:44 PM | Reply

How about a better idea.... lift the cap on earnings for social security. Every dollar at 12.4%. That would eliminate the funding gap.
How about making S Corp income subject to FICA tax?

#87 | POSTED BY 726

I like these ideas. PLUS I like the idea of means testing.

The 1% should absorb the majority of the fix. After all, most of them attained their financial stature from the labor of everyone else. And I say this as someone who substantially lives on pass-through income.

#93 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2018-04-12 12:52 PM | Reply

"The 1% pay the very same percentage up to the cap. There is not nearly enough money in the 1% to confiscate to even put a dent in unfunded liabilities."

""Removing the cap entirely, thereby imposing a flat tax of 12.4 percent on all earnings -- essentially a $100 billion a year tax increase on the wealthy -- would more than completely close the funding gap."

www.pbs.org

And hey Jeff, I could spend the rest of the day posting other sources for basically the same set of facts. You have made the same dishonest claim about the wealthy not really having the ability to fix SS often but it is a lie. Stop posting it.

The truth is that if we taxed everyone the same amount as we pay in SS taxes then SS would be solvent for infinity.

#94 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 12:55 PM | Reply

"1. Slightly increase the age of eligibility for SS and Medicare.
2. Increase FICA by a half point on both sides.
3. Slightly increase the income subjected to FICA, say, by $5,000. "

1. --
2. --
3. Laughable to the 1%.

You are bought and paid for, just admit it and get it over with Jeff.
What a joke.

#95 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 12:58 PM | Reply

#94

First off, that is static scoring, not dynamic scoring, in terms of how much more revenue would be generated. Static scoring assumes that such a massive tax increase wouldn't have any effect on individual behavior or any effect on economic activity. That is absurd.

Also, it wouldn't make SS + Medicare and + Medicaid even remotely solvent.

#96 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 01:06 PM | Reply

Slightly raising the age of eligibility would have a HUGE impact and it's the first thing that should be done.

#97 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 01:07 PM | Reply

"First off, that is static scoring, not dynamic scoring, in terms of how much more revenue would be generated. Static scoring assumes that such a massive tax increase wouldn't have any effect on individual behavior or any effect on economic activity. That is absurd. "

Yeah, rich folks wouldn't continue to want to be rich folks. Riiight Jeff. You don't even believe the stuff you repeat for them.

#98 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 01:12 PM | Reply

You think FDR didn't have to listen to people trying to fill his head with the same lies?
He was strong enough to ignore them, to taunt them, to laugh at them. To lead us towards the most successful nation on the planet.

#99 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 01:13 PM | Reply

Slightly raising the age of eligibility would have a HUGE impact and it's the first thing that should be done.

#97 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

This is a measure we agree on.

#100 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-04-12 01:14 PM | Reply

Yeah, rich folks wouldn't continue to want to be rich folks. Riiight Jeff. You don't even believe the stuff you repeat for them.

#98 | POSTED BY DANNI

You need to take a couple of courses in economics. If you honestly believe that such a massive tax increase would have zero effect on peoples' behavior I have a bridge to sell you.

#101 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 01:15 PM | Reply

I'd be fine with a tax increase as long as it was tied to a spending cut, like slightly raising the age of eligibility.

#102 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 01:16 PM | Reply

"You need to take a couple of courses in economics"

Says the jackhole who promised Kansas was going to be booming after Brownbacks tax cuts

"Give the magic beans time to grow" said the DR usuals.

"Mark My Words" said jeffyj

then poof. nothing but denials from the DRs habitual liar

#103 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-04-12 01:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Says the jackhole who promised Kansas was going to be booming after Brownbacks tax cuts

I never said that, liar.

Go and voluntarily check yourself into the psych ward.

#104 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 01:41 PM | Reply

"I never said that"

Yes, you did

you spent hours publicly blowing the Laffer Curve nonsense right here on the DR.

Your denials are laughable

#105 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-04-12 01:47 PM | Reply

No, I didn't. Never commented on Brownback's tax policy. That must have been Coconservative who made that argument, you know, one of the many voices roaming around in your head.

Please seek help before you hurt yourself.

#106 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 01:49 PM | Reply

"Never commented on Brownback's tax policy"

--------

You may be able to easily lie to yourself, but everyone else, not so much

Probably explains why you are always here blabbing your nonsense from the safety of your sofa

#107 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-04-12 01:54 PM | Reply

"You need to take a couple of courses in economics. If you honestly believe that such a massive tax increase would have zero effect on peoples' behavior I have a bridge to sell you."

FDR raised the maximum amount of income tax to 90%, rich people continued to get richer. Realize, once a person has several million dollars they have all the things they want anyway, so why do billionaires keep trying to make more? It's a game they want to win. Charging them FICA and Medicare taxes won't change that.
If we didn't have a history of 90% marginal tax rates you could sell your nonsense but we do so you can't.
I guess that is one of the benefits of being my age, I can still remember the world before Ronald Reagan was elected to kill the golden goose.

#108 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 02:01 PM | Reply

Slightly raising the age of eligibility would have a HUGE impact and it's the first thing that should be done.

#97 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

BS

It simply reduces the benefits for those who have actually physically toiled most of their lives, worn their bodies out, and aren't likely to live as long. You are trying to take SS away from those who are likely to need it the most. Means testing is a better solution.

#109 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2018-04-12 02:02 PM | Reply

Either lifting the wage cap or means testing opens the door to SS being called a welfare program and landing on the chopping block.

#110 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2018-04-12 02:08 PM | Reply

#109

I'm talking about raising the age by 1 year and then 15 years later raising it 1 year again. When SS was first signed into law the average life expectancy had people drawing benefits for roughly 5 years. Raising the age makes sense IMO, for a number of reasons.

#111 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 02:15 PM | Reply

"I'm talking about raising the age by 1 year and then 15 years later raising it 1 year again."

Jeff, we've seen this movie before. The retirement age for my parents was 65, for me 66, for my kids it's 67. So you want people 69 years old to keep working their jobs? Gee, why not 80? Enjoy your retirement folks but keep it down to 5 years so that Jeff won't have to stop spreading the bull crap that we can fix the whole system, retire at 65 and live as many years as we can and still keep they system solvent simply by allowing everyone to share the burden and pay the same percentage of income as we do.
No matter how well you prove a point to Jeff he will continue to repeat the talking points of his masters.

#112 | Posted by danni at 2018-04-12 02:46 PM | Reply

Who said 80?

Not me, that was you.

People retire prior to being eligible for benefits all of the time. My dad was 56 when he retired.

I was very specific in what I was proposing. Sycophant agreed with me. Was that him repeating the talking points of his masters too?

#113 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-04-12 03:17 PM | Reply

If you honestly believe that such a massive tax increase would have zero effect on peoples' behavior I have a bridge to sell you.

That change in "behavior" is largely more aggressive attempts to exploit loopholes in the tax code, not actual reductions in taxable income by "working less" as conservatives like to claim. Close the loopholes and you will see more revenue from tax increases.

Btw, can we really even call it an "increase" if all we're doing is telling rich people to pay taxes on the same proportion of their income as you and i do? I'd call it "shoring up regressive policy."

I'd be fine with a tax increase as long as it was tied to a spending cut, like slightly raising the age of eligibility.

You cant even receive partial benefits until you are 62. We only live to 78 in this country (4+ years shorter than nations with better healthcare systems). How miserable and short do you want our retirement years to be?

#114 | Posted by JOE at 2018-04-13 07:38 AM | Reply

We only live to 78 in this country (4+ years shorter than nations with better healthcare systems). How miserable and short do you want our retirement years to be?

#114 | Posted by JOE

Well, ideally, since we are done being useful to society and paying into the tax coffers we would all conveniently die at 62 and decrease the surplus population.

I think that is the new GOP plan to shore up Social Security.

#115 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-04-13 05:04 PM | Reply

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