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Tuesday, April 10, 2018

Donald Trump "believes he has the power to" fire special counsel Robert Mueller, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said Tuesday. "He certainly believes he has the power to do so," Sanders said when asked whether Trump believes he has that power. She did not suggest Trump would be moving to fire Mueller. Under the special counsel regulations, Mueller may be "disciplined or removed from office only by the personal action of the attorney general." Attorney General Jeff Sessions has recused himself from all matters related to the 2016 presidential campaign, so only Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein has the power to fire Mueller.

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"I think that the President has been clear that he thinks this has gone too far and beyond that I don't have anything to add," Sanders said. "I think the President has been clear what his position is."

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"He's Sitting There Bitching and Moaning'': Inside Trumpworld, Allies Fear the Boss Could Go Postal and Fire Mueller

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#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-04-10 03:59 PM | Reply

the President has been clear that he thinks this has gone too far

Yet not far enough.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-04-10 04:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"There is also something known as the crime-fraud exception to attorney-client privilege.

"When the communications between an attorney and client are in furtherance of criminal activity, it's viewed as an exception to attorney-client privilege," Barrett said."

www.theatlantic.com

Trump's not as good a lawyer as he thinks he is.... which is fine by me.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2018-04-10 04:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trumps not as good an anything (businessman, president, husband, father, human, etc) as he thinks he is.

#4 | Posted by 726 at 2018-04-10 05:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Who knew being a decent human was so complicated.

#5 | Posted by bored at 2018-04-10 05:57 PM | Reply

The regulation says one thing. Trump says another.

Wonder who should win?

#6 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-04-10 07:14 PM | Reply

Just resign already. The sane people in America can see you for what you are.

#7 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-04-10 07:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

"Just resign already
#7 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE"

MAGA President Pence!

#8 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2018-04-10 07:59 PM | Reply

People who think that firing Meuller will result in some sort of crisis are seriously deluding themselves.

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-04-10 08:33 PM | Reply

He also BELIEVES he had the largest inauguration ever and that millions of illegals voted for hillary.

Reality and trump live in different places.

#10 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-04-10 08:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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MAGA President Pence!

#8 | Posted by phesterOBoyle

Yeah because that's what all those trump supporters were voting for in 2016, christian theocracy!

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-04-10 08:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

MAGA President Pence!
#8 | Posted by phesterOBoyle

Yikes - even scarier I think. Pence is a politician.

#12 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-04-10 08:49 PM | Reply

Yes, he believes he has the power to fire Mueller. And I believe I have the power to walk through walls. Mueller and the law disagree with Trump and the wall tends to argue my beliefs, as well.

#13 | Posted by RevDarko at 2018-04-10 09:19 PM | Reply

People who think that firing Meuller will result in some sort of crisis are seriously deluding themselves.

#9 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

It is not just the firing of Mueller. It's everyone else who has to get fired or who resigns. It's the things we cannot predict. And it would be a Constitutional crisis. The President will be trying to place himself above the Law. The Executive branch against the Judicial Branch. If that is not a crisis then I don't know a crisis is. (I do agree that as every day is a freakin crisis lately it may be hard to notice any difference these days)

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-04-10 09:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Maggie Haberman @maggieNYT

Trump spent the weekend telling people he wanted to get rid of Rosenstein, Sessions, even Chris Wray, per two ppl familiar with his comments

Philip Rucker @PhilipRucker

Just got off phone with Alan Dershowitz, who was at the WH tonight for dinner with Trump, Kushner and others. He said he was there to advise on Middle East policy. Asked whether they talked Russia/Mueller, he said, "I'm not going to discuss what I discussed with the president."

#15 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-04-10 10:14 PM | Reply

"Yikes - even scarier I think. Pence is a politician.
#12 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE"

That's what we get if the CNN/huffmyshorts coup works to oust Trump.

#16 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2018-04-10 10:16 PM | Reply

Maggie Haberman @maggieNYT

Some news - Dershowitz has been at the White House for part of today as Trump seeks his input, and he's supposed to have dinner with the president tonight, per WH sources

Kaitlan Collins @kaitlancollins

Dershowitz on Hannity last night: "If this were Hillary Clinton being investigated and they went into her lawyer's office, the ACLU would be on every TV station in America jumping up and down." Called the Cohen raid "an intrusion" on lawyer-client confidentiality.

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-04-10 10:16 PM | Reply

It is not just the firing of Mueller. It's everyone else who has to get fired or who resigns. It's the things we cannot predict. And it would be a Constitutional crisis. The President will be trying to place himself above the Law. The Executive branch against the Judicial Branch. If that is not a crisis then I don't know a crisis is. (I do agree that as every day is a freakin crisis lately it may be hard to notice any difference these days)
#14 | Posted by donnerboy a

Who is going to do anything about it? Seriously?

The republican congress critters? HA
The democratic congress critters? HA double HA, they couldn't stand up to the republicans when they stole a Supreme Ct. seat.
The courts? Who? Seriously, who in the courts?

Seriously WHO

Noone that is.

Trump will be around till at least 2020, get used to it.

#18 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-04-10 10:58 PM | Reply

#16 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE

We agree that Pence is worse than Trump.

While DJT is both a festering boil on the arse of US politics and the embodiment of the worst stereotypes of the US (a belligerent, fat, self-serving bully who, while born into privilege, has convinced himself that he's is the aggrieved), his saving grace is his ...seemingly...preternatural ability to get in his own way (thus inhibiting the implementation of his retrograde policies).

Pence might actually achieve retrograde policies.

Unfortunately, while being better than Pence might be something...it certainly ain't much.

Is that what conservatives were hoping for?

#19 | Posted by worldasifindit at 2018-04-10 10:58 PM | Reply

- Dershowitz

"Those money-laundering gloves will never fit my client's tiny little hands!"

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2018-04-10 11:24 PM | Reply

Unlike the rest of us, Trump already knows what Mueller knows and will know. If it wouldn't hurt Trump, Trump wouldn't be attacking Mueller. But he is. So Trump WILL fire Mueller, either directly or by replacing Rosenstein with someone who agrees in advance to fire Mueller. That will happen BECAUSE Trump already knows what Mueller knows and will know.

#21 | Posted by nimbleswitch at 2018-04-11 07:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#21

Absolutely right. Predicted and inevitable for the last year.

To those who saying the firing of Mueller won't percipitate a crisis, I agree. It would deepen the existing Crisis.

#22 | Posted by Zed at 2018-04-11 08:27 AM | Reply

Ted Lieu @tedlieu

If @realDonaldTrump fired Rod Rosenstein to influence either the Mueller investigation or the investigation into Michael Cohen, that would constitute Obstruction of Justice.

It's clear @POTUS thinks like a lawless person. Question now is will he also act like a lawless person.

Worried @realDonaldTrump is going to commit Obstruction of Justice by firing Sessions or Rosenstein or Mueller? You can take action below.

In America, no one is above the law.

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#23 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-04-11 11:28 AM | Reply

Steve Schmidt ‏ @SteveSchmidtSES

1. Firing Robert Mueller would trigger a constitutional crisis and lay bare a fundamental choice for this generation of Americans. We are trustees of this great constitutional republic that is unique in all the history of the world. We are obligated to generations not yet born ..

2. To do our duty as the generations that came before us did theirs . American Liberty has been preserved by sacrifices that beggar the imagination. America is a nation where the rule of law is supreme. The United States must not turn into a lawless and corrupt Trumpistan. ..

Should the firing come it will be time for the American people to engage in the largest peaceful civil demonstrations in the countries history. Trump will have crossed a line that demands his impeachment and removal from office. Failure to do so will betray America

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-04-11 11:33 AM | Reply

Yes, he believes he has the power to fire Mueller. And I believe I have the power to walk through walls. Mueller and the law disagree with Trump and the wall tends to argue my beliefs, as well.

#13 | Posted by RevDarko

Who is the head if the executive branch? What branch does the AG office fall under?

#25 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-04-11 11:51 AM | Reply

"No man is above the law and no man is below it: nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it." - Theodore Roosevelt

#26 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-04-11 12:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Who is the head if the executive branch? What branch does the AG office fall under?"

And who does the President of the United States work for? We, the People. He'll be hearing from us in November, or sooner if he decides to act like a 2 bit dictator.

#27 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-04-11 12:16 PM | Reply

Schumer calls for vote on bipartisan bill to protect Mueller
thehill.com

Will Republicans keep enabling Trump's worst designs? Here's a big test.

This morning brings reason for (very) cautious optimism: A bipartisan group of senators is introducing a bill that could prevent President Trump from pulling off a Saturday Night Massacre-style move against special counsel Robert S. Mueller III's investigation, something that Trump appears to be seriously considering.

Right now, at this very moment, it is all but certain that a majority of senators support this bill. It is also all but certain that a majority of senators on the Judiciary Committee also support it. This means it could theoretically gain some momentum -- if Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Judiciary Committee Chair Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) are willing to allow that to happen.
www.washingtonpost.com

Call your Senators as well as McConnell and Grassley and tell them to protect the Mueller investigation:

Senators of the 115th Congress
www.senate.gov

#28 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-04-11 12:45 PM | Reply

Who is the head if the executive branch? What branch does the AG office fall under?

#25 | Posted by Sniper

Who is NOT the CEO of America? Trump cannot fire Mueller. He can only order someone else to fire him. That is when the fun begins. Civil servants cannot be fired without cause. They have something called "due process". You may have heard of it.

#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-04-11 02:21 PM | Reply

Who is the head if the executive branch? What branch does the AG office fall under?
#25 | Posted by Sniper

Let me use small words so you can understand.

Trump isn't God. There are laws in place that he has to follow. He has no authority to fire Mueller. A regulation gives that authority specifically to the Director of the FBI who has recused himself and given it to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

Trump can ask Rosenstein to fire Mueller but he actually doesn't have authority to Order it. There is no penalty if Rosenstein doesn't do as Trump wants and keeps Mueller on. If Rosenstein doesn't fire Mueller, Trump can fire him actually for no reason at all. But...that would likely lead to impeachment talks very quickly especially as Cohen looks very guilty.

#30 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-04-11 02:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#30

There are likely no words small enough....

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2018-04-11 02:54 PM | Reply

Laurence Tribe @tribelaw
Anyone advising Trump he has power to remove Mueller better read In re Hennen (1839), reaff'd by CJ Taft (1926) and CJ Roberts (2010), holding that POTUS cannot personally remove an officer appointed by a member of his Cabinet unless an Act of Congress greenlights such removal.

SOUTHERN LIBERAL @ll_Legit_2_Quit
A member of his cabinet didn't appoint Mueller. Rosenstein did.

Laurence Tribe @tribelaw
Replying to @ll_Legit_2_Quit
He did it as Acting AG

#32 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-04-11 02:58 PM | Reply

"he actually doesn't have authority to Order it"

I agree... Seems to me that would be an unlawful order if there is no just cause.

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-04-11 03:43 PM | Reply

He's got the Power!

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-04-11 07:30 PM | Reply

If Trump does this congress will move fast to impeach him before darkness comes and with it angry mobs.

#35 | Posted by Tor at 2018-04-11 07:36 PM | Reply

Sen Grassley (R) is changing his tune and calling for a vote next week on legislation to protect Mueller from a firing taking immediate effect. It will be something he and Dianne Feinstein can agree on.

#36 | Posted by Corky at 2018-04-11 07:41 PM | Reply

It's a disgrace I tell you. What's going on it's a disgrace. Just a disgrace. Disgraceful even. So disgraceful that, well, you'll see how disgraceful it is. They broke in! Disgraceful! They stole his stuff! Disgrace! Next thing you know they will be kidnapping him to jail! Disgrace! Disgrace!

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-04-11 11:24 PM | Reply

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