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Thursday, March 22, 2018

President Donald Trump's lead lawyer in the special counsel's Russia investigation has resigned amid a shake-up of the president's legal team. Attorney John Dowd confirmed his decision in an email Thursday to The Associated Press, saying, "I love the President and wish him well." Dowd's departure comes three days after the Trump legal team added a new lawyer, former U.S. attorney Joseph diGenova, who has alleged on television that FBI officials were involved in a "brazen plot" to exonerate Hillary Clinton in the email investigation and "frame" Trump for nonexistent crimes.

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A client who doesn't take legal advice, and who is known to not pay his bills. Raising a defense against a special counsel whose team will take no prisoners and give no quarter. Working along side a group of stooges whose reputations were made in right-wing media, and not in the courtroom.

Good career decision, Counsel Dowd...

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Awww, he should have told Dotard via Twitter.

#1 | Posted by 726 at 2018-03-22 12:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Legal rats jump sinking ship... video at 11.

These big name guys are not all about losing big cases. And it sounds like he wasn't going to be dumb enough to present the FBI conspiracy defense that diGenova is totally dumb enough to present.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2018-03-22 12:13 PM | Reply


Looks like Pres Trump is changing his legal strategy from one based in factual reality to one based on the fantasy of conspiracy theories.

As Pres Trump is rebuilding the team that surrounds him, he appears to be leaning towards those who are in complete agreement with him.

What remains to be seen is how well that selection works for Pres Trump and the Country.

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-03-22 12:15 PM | Reply

So freaking much winning!

He was right. I'm tired of it.

Sigh.

#4 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2018-03-22 12:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 4 | Newsworthy 1

One imagines that if Trump's legal situation had any good chance to be salvaged his attorneys would cleave loyally to his side. Donald's people are making up their minds he is guilty, so why wait to burn with him?

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2018-03-22 12:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


twitter.com


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

The Failing New York Times purposely wrote a false story stating that I am unhappy with my legal team on the Russia case and am going to add another lawyer to help out. Wrong. I am VERY happy with my lawyers, John Dowd, Ty Cobb and Jay Sekulow. They are doing a great job and.....
6:41 AM - 11 Mar 2018


Looks like the failing NY Times was spot on.

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-03-22 12:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 8

People are more often discussing the logic of coup attempt publically. As has happened in numerous other countries, the leader/malefactor realizes that if he loses office he loses protection, and so clings to power with all the desperateness of someone who at long last realizes he is dog meat if he does not.

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2018-03-22 12:32 PM | Reply


@#7 ... the leader/malefactor realizes that if he loses office he loses protection ...

Doesn't the Secret Service continue to protect ex-Presidents as necessary?

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-03-22 12:41 PM | Reply

Doesn't the Secret Service continue to protect ex-Presidents as necessary?

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018

One assumes their obligation is ended once Trump goes outlaw.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2018-03-22 01:10 PM | Reply


@#9 One assumes their obligation is ended once Trump goes outlaw.

I'd want the protection to continue. I would not want any punishment offered to be more than the legal amount, and if the Secret Service's efforts are required to assure that, then so be it.

#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-03-22 01:18 PM | Reply

Huge story.

If you have an innocent client with a winable case, you don't quit.

Or maybe sheeple will tell us that trump's own lawyer is simply buying into the "media hysteria" around this "fake" scandal.

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-03-22 02:22 PM | Reply

#1 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

He couldv'e quit for any number of reasons - maybe Trump didn't pay him. haha. But of course, if Trump eats a fish taco, it's a signal he's guilty.

Feel free to accept my $100 charity challenge. Click on my name, go to my website and send me an email.
If Trump is convicted of ANYTHING, I will donate to a charity of your choice. If not, you donate to mine.

While you're there, you can visit my FB page, Twitter, and Instagram.

#12 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-03-22 02:41 PM | Reply

D:What did I tell you not to do?
T:Attack Mueller.
D:What did you do?
T:Attack Mueller.
D:You're fired.

#13 | Posted by bored at 2018-03-22 02:52 PM | Reply

does attorney/client privilege still apply if one party fires the other?

#14 | Posted by b_al at 2018-03-22 03:35 PM | Reply

He couldv'e quit for any number of reasons

#2 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Sure, like he doesn't like getting money, doesn't like winning cases?

This is one more massive sign that trump is guilty of something. But you won't believe it til fox news does. Which is only after we get a signed videotaped confession from trump. Until then you'll keep disseminating excuses and flimsy defenses just like sean hannity.

#15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-03-22 03:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#12 | Posted by b_al

Yes.

#16 | Posted by et_al at 2018-03-22 03:44 PM | Reply

Dude, are you stupid enough to post personal links to the DR? Good luck with that.

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-03-22 03:47 PM | Reply

Dude, are you stupid enough to post personal links to the DR? Good luck with that.

#4 | Posted by truthhurts

Well he's stupid enough to think hillary is as bad or worse for his liberal priorities than trump so....

#18 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-03-22 03:55 PM | Reply

He's got nice artwork.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-03-22 03:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why's it a problem if he posts personal information?

Rogers has.

Goatman would share pictures of himself and his granddaughters.

Jeff shares a lot about his children and himself.

Zat would share his pics.

Reins shared a picture of Gracie and Bayside.

It's up to the person. I don't see why it's a big deal.

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-03-22 04:00 PM | Reply

Thanks Clown!

#21 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-03-22 04:02 PM | Reply

Remember REITZE's youtube videos of him playing the guitar?

#22 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-03-22 04:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And how many DR have been trolled and worse after posting personal stuff? Sheeple is a. a controversial poster and b. gave many details or access to details to people who may want to mess with him.

Again, stupid, but hey not my problem. I'd ask Rcade to delete all the referenced info.

#23 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-03-22 04:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

This is one more massive sign that trump is guilty of something. But you won't believe it til fox news does.
#3 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Actually, it's a sign that his attorney resigned. Why he resigned could be for any number of reasons.

#24 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-03-22 04:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Actually, it's a sign that his attorney resigned. Why he resigned could be for any number of reasons.

#11 | Posted by SheepleSchism

If you had to bet your life's savings on why he resigned, what would your bet be on?

#25 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-03-22 04:26 PM | Reply

If you had to bet your life's savings on why he resigned, what would your bet be on?
#12 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

FTA: "Dowd's departure comes three days after the Trump legal team added a new lawyer, former U.S. attorney Joseph diGenova"

My guess is, he got demoted, and didn't like it.

#26 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-03-22 04:30 PM | Reply

My guess is, he got demoted, and didn't like it.

#13 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Keep going. And why would that happen? Your life savings is at stake.

#27 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-03-22 04:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

My guess is, he got demoted, and didn't like it.
#13 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Better yet, what influences you to make such a guess?

#28 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-03-22 04:36 PM | Reply

O. I. C. Y.

#29 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-03-22 04:39 PM | Reply

I'm not the one who declared Trump guilty. I'm simply speculating.

The burden is on you to back up your claim.

Lawyer quits= Client guilty. I'm sure you can dig up stats, articles, and studies to support your position.

I'll wait.

#30 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-03-22 04:40 PM | Reply

Jay Sekulow?!?

You've got to be -------- me.

#31 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-03-22 04:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

www.lawyers.com

An Attorney's Voluntary Withdrawal
Where the circumstances permit, but do not require, the attorney to cease representation, the withdrawal is considered voluntary.The circumstances under which an attorney may withdraw mid-case include:
the client is refusing to pay the attorney for his or her services in violation of their fee agreement
the client is refusing to follow the attorney's advice
the client is engaged in fraudulent conduct, and
there has been a breakdown in the attorney-client relationship that prevents the attorney from effectively representing the client in the case.

#32 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-03-22 04:55 PM | Reply

Nice artwork, SheepleSchism. I'd've never taken you for a Fauvist. ☺

#33 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-03-22 04:57 PM | Reply

I hope Hans saves my recommendations to Sheeple to delete his personal information

#34 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-03-22 04:58 PM | Reply

"does attorney/client privilege still apply if one party fires the other?"

Yes.
#13 | POSTED BY ET_AL

See below for crucial context:

There Could Be Another Really Good Reason Why John Dowd Bolted


John Dowd, President Donald Trump‘s lead personal attorney for the Russia investigation, left his post on Thursday, and perhaps not a moment too soon. Despite reports indicating that Dowd left due to frustration with Trump related to disagreements over strategy, there could be another reason why Dowd might be glad to create some distance between himself and the president.

Like so much else with the Trump administration, it comes down to a tweet. Specifically, this famous one from after former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn‘s guilty plea for providing false statements to the FBI.


Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!

10:14 AM - Dec 2, 2017
114K
101K people are talking about this


The tweet sparked a frenzy of claims that this was proof that Trump obstructed justice by allegedly asking then-FBI Director James Comey to stop investigating Flynn, who resigned the day before. The argument was that the tweet indicated that Trump already knew Flynn had lied to the FBI at the time, and still asked Comey to back off. Asking the FBI Director to stop investigating someone who Trump knew committed a crime would potentially be enough for an obstruction charge.

Then Dowd stepped in to save the day. How did he do it? By saying that Trump didn't post the tweet, rather Dowd himself posted it from Trump's account. If Trump didn't really say it, maybe Mueller wouldn't be able to use it against him. No one believed it, and I can't imagine Dowd thought anyone would believe it, whether it was true or not. By falling on his sword, though, he hoped to take the heat off the President.

Of course, it could have also put Dowd in a really uncomfortable situation.

We know Mueller is looking into possible obstruction on Trump's part. If he's looking at that tweet now, he may be looking to interview Dowd himself (or maybe already has?), which puts him in a rough spot. See, if Dowd didn't really write the tweet, and Mueller asked him about it, he'd have to either lie to the Special Counsel to protect his client, or tell the truth and incriminate him.

Dowd wouldn't even be able to claim attorney-client privilege because he publicly said he wrote the tweet. Once you reveal information to a third party (or the whole world), you can't claim privilege over it. Dowd may be able to remain silent regarding private discussions he and Trump had about the tweet, but not when it comes to the tweet itself and claims that he already made himself.

lawandcrime.com

#35 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-03-22 05:01 PM | Reply

I'll put this here as well:

"does attorney/client privilege still apply if one party fires the other?"

Yes.
#13 | POSTED BY ET_AL

See below for crucial context:

There Could Be Another Really Good Reason Why John Dowd Bolted


John Dowd, President Donald Trump‘s lead personal attorney for the Russia investigation, left his post on Thursday, and perhaps not a moment too soon. Despite reports indicating that Dowd left due to frustration with Trump related to disagreements over strategy, there could be another reason why Dowd might be glad to create some distance between himself and the president.

Like so much else with the Trump administration, it comes down to a tweet. Specifically, this famous one from after former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn‘s guilty plea for providing false statements to the FBI.

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!
10:14 AM - Dec 2, 2017
114K
101K people are talking about this

The tweet sparked a frenzy of claims that this was proof that Trump obstructed justice by allegedly asking then-FBI Director James Comey to stop investigating Flynn, who resigned the day before. The argument was that the tweet indicated that Trump already knew Flynn had lied to the FBI at the time, and still asked Comey to back off. Asking the FBI Director to stop investigating someone who Trump knew committed a crime would potentially be enough for an obstruction charge.

Then Dowd stepped in to save the day. How did he do it? By saying that Trump didn't post the tweet, rather Dowd himself posted it from Trump's account. If Trump didn't really say it, maybe Mueller wouldn't be able to use it against him. No one believed it, and I can't imagine Dowd thought anyone would believe it, whether it was true or not. By falling on his sword, though, he hoped to take the heat off the President.

Of course, it could have also put Dowd in a really uncomfortable situation.

We know Mueller is looking into possible obstruction on Trump's part. If he's looking at that tweet now, he may be looking to interview Dowd himself (or maybe already has?), which puts him in a rough spot. See, if Dowd didn't really write the tweet, and Mueller asked him about it, he'd have to either lie to the Special Counsel to protect his client, or tell the truth and incriminate him.

Dowd wouldn't even be able to claim attorney-client privilege because he publicly said he wrote the tweet. Once you reveal information to a third party (or the whole world), you can't claim privilege over it. Dowd may be able to remain silent regarding private discussions he and Trump had about the tweet, but not when it comes to the tweet itself and claims that he already made himself.

lawandcrime.com

#36 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-03-22 05:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#15 | Posted by rstybeach11

Notice how narrow that is. "Did ya say it?" Going behind it (who, what, when, where and why) is a whole other world.

#37 | Posted by et_al at 2018-03-22 05:17 PM | Reply

Notice how narrow that is. "Did ya say it?" Going behind it (who, what, when, where and why) is a whole other world.
#16 | Posted by et_al

Would it be wise to say under oath ya did it, when you didn't do it? Aren't there ways to determine where a twit came from? Wouldn't that then lead to Dowd throwing Trump under the bus? Seems Dowd is in a no-win situation.

#38 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-03-22 05:23 PM | Reply

"Did ya say it?" Going behind it (who, what, when, where and why) is a whole other world.
#16 | POSTED BY ET_AL

Well, if it was actually Trump that provided the tweet in question, Dowd has got some splainin' to do. And that splainin' could be quite detrimental to Trump. But if it was Dowd that actually wrote it, where does that lead us? No where?

#39 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-03-22 05:24 PM | Reply

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