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Thursday, March 01, 2018

Those fiscal geniuses in the White House and Republican-controlled Congress have managed to do the impossible: Their sabotage of the Affordable Care Act will lead to 6.4 million fewer Americans with health insurance, while the federal bill for coverage rises by some $33 billion per year. Also, by the way, premiums in the individual market will rise by an average of more than 18%. Heck of a job.

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These figures come from the Urban Institute, which on Monday released the first estimate of the impact of two GOP initiatives. The first is the elimination of the individual mandate, which is an offshoot of the GOP tax-cut measure signed by President Trump in December. The measure reduced the penalty for not carrying insurance to zero as of next Jan. 1.

The second is Trump's plan to expand short-term insurance plans, which don't comply with many of the ACA's essential benefits requirements and allow insurers to reject or surcharge people with preexisting medical conditions or histories.

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#1 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-02-26 11:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Their sabotage of the Affordable Care Act will lead to 6.4 million fewer Americans with health insurance, while the federal bill for coverage rises by some $33 billion per year. Also, by the way, premiums in the individual market will rise by an average of more than 18%. Heck of a job.

You sound like their goal wasn't for that to happen. They view healthcare as a commodity that only the wealthy should have access to.

#2 | Posted by 726 at 2018-02-27 06:51 AM | Reply

When I view the results of the Trump Presidency so far it becomes more difficult to suffer these fools silently. Most or all of them understood that actual people would suffer the loss of healthcare if Trump was elected and they voted for him because of that because, deep down, they are mean spirited, angry, people who want to punish the poor for the crime of being poor and reward the rich for the virtue of being born rich. Calvinism. A hateful philosophy that still infects America after 400 years.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2018-02-27 12:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

www.vox.com

"I visited the area last winter and talked to Obamacare enrollees who voted for Trump. They expected the president to repeal the law and replace it with something much better. "That man has a head for business," one enrollee told me. "He will absolutely do his best to change things."

I went back this spring just after the House passed the AHCA, the bill to repeal and replace Obamacare that would cause 23 million fewer Americans to have health coverage, according to Congressional Budget Office estimates. The optimism was gone. Resignation had replaced it.

"You know, thinking about it, I'm not even sure what I expected. I just thought it would miraculously work out wonderful for everybody," Bobbi Smith, a 62-year-old Obamacare enrollee who voted for Trump, says. "So I guess maybe I didn't put enough thought into what I would expect from a health care act.""

Ya think?

"It would miraculously work out" was their plan. You can fix stupid of that magnitude. Trumpambo played them for fools.

#4 | Posted by 726 at 2018-02-27 03:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bobbi Smith, a 62-year-old Obamacare enrollee who voted for Trump, says. "So I guess maybe I didn't put enough thought into what I would expect from a health care act."
In a related story, Mike Judge announced that Bobbi Smith would star in the to-be-released prequel to his hit movie, Idiocracy.

Idiocracy: Birth of a Nation, is scheduled to be released in the summer of 2020, coinciding with the start of the 2020 Republican National Convention.

"There's a natural symmetry to that release date," said Judge in an interview. "We might not have to even advertise it!"

#5 | Posted by Hans at 2018-02-27 04:09 PM | Reply

Some Rs have been very open that healthcare is a privilege of the rich, not a right for everyone. This just codifies that. Sigh.

#6 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2018-02-27 05:01 PM | Reply

So, crappy insurance is ok as long as Obama birthed it?

#7 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-02-28 01:55 AM | Reply

So, crappy insurance is ok as long as Obama birthed it?

#7 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Are you really that Dain Bramaged?

Trump is the one offering your crappy fly by night insurance.

Obama standardized it.

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-02-28 01:00 PM | Reply

Crappy insurance isn't good for anyone except insurance companies, regardless of who promotes it.

Either fight for single-payer, or get off the pot. It's the only way forward.

#9 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-03-01 11:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Either fight for single-payer, or get off the pot. It's the only way forward.
#9 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

NW!

Surprised to hear that from you, but support you nonetheless!

#10 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-03-01 11:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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Yup Single payer is the way to go

#11 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2018-03-01 11:37 PM | Reply

Single payer will NEVER happen here so long as the sickness industry is allowed to bribe congresscritters. ---- what the people want, it is the people that bribe the --------- in congress that only matter.

#12 | Posted by 726 at 2018-03-02 07:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Single payer will NEVER happen here so long as the sickness industry is allowed to bribe congresscritters.

What is friggen crazy is even many doctors support single payer. It's the big hospital chains, the insurance companies and to a lesser extent the drug companies that fight it. The actual providers want it and we are nearing the 50% mark of voters wanting it.

#13 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2018-03-02 07:54 AM | Reply

It's not just single payer that won't happen, it's gun control, it's free college education, it's union rights, it's just about anything and everything that would benefit the American people instead of the 1%. Til we get money out of politics nothing will change. Til we pass a Constitutional Amendment that says corporations are not people and money is not free speech the billionaires will have their way.

#14 | Posted by danni at 2018-03-02 08:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

There is consistency. The stupidity includes the tax cut, which was justified because it was supposed to trigger domestic investment and jobs and wage growth, Businesses have known about the tax cut features since least September. There is no evidence of investment, jobs or wage growth. But Pence and Trump pretend there is, while the MSM isn't reporting the problem.

#15 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-03-02 08:25 AM | Reply

Healthcare is a significant part of compensation in millions of jobs which makes us uncompetitive compared to nations where healthcare is not a cost born by employers. Today, Trump says he is going to intruduce tariffs to help our steel and aluminum manufacturers, think how much more successful that could be if healthcare costs were not the responsibility of the steel manufacturing companies? We need to start thinking of universal healthcare as a necessary ingredient to having a competitive manufacturing economy. We have actually lost auto manufacturing plants to Canada over exactly just this issue.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2018-03-02 10:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Crappy insurance isn't good for anyone except insurance companies, regardless of who promotes it.
Either fight for single-payer, or get off the pot. It's the only way forward.

#9 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2018-03-01 11:01 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

This is everything that's wrong with the liberal movement.

Destined to be the best tool conservatives have ever had.

#17 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-03-02 11:00 AM | Reply

Either fight for single-payer, or get off the pot. It's the only way forward.

POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Please don't make me get off my pot!

I really need my pot just now.

It's the only way I will be able to keep my sanity for the next 3 years.

Btw good on you for supporting single payer Comrade!

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-03-02 11:37 AM | Reply

Wait. You mean to tell me a President wants healthcare reform and the party that he's not in has issues with it? DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
RRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#19 | Posted by humtake at 2018-03-02 12:18 PM | Reply

Either fight for single-payer, or get off the pot. It's the only way forward.

#9 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

So screw the country if we can't have single payer? Great plan...

#20 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-03-02 12:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Wait. You mean to tell me a President wants healthcare reform and the party that he's not in has issues with it? DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
RRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#19 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

Reform...I'm not sure you know what this word means....

#21 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-03-02 03:27 PM | Reply

He means a system where he doesn't have to pay for anybody else's health care. He doesn't understand that there is no such system other than "if you have money you can live, if not you can die". As long as ERs are required to treat anyone who comes through the door and millions of people are uninsured, we all have to pay for other people's health care; in higher taxes, or higher insurance premiums, or both.

#22 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2018-03-03 01:10 AM | Reply

Interesting factoid.

"At $5,960 per capita, government spending on health care costs in the U.S. was the highest of any nation in 2013, including countries with universal health programs such as Canada, Sweden and the United Kingdom."

So our government spending alone is already higher than countries with universal health care. Our private spending was an additional 3307 per person.

#23 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2018-03-03 06:47 AM | Reply

A better headline is "The stupidity of Trump."

#24 | Posted by MD2020 at 2018-03-03 01:23 PM | Reply

I have to say, the belief that riches are a symbol of virtue has been around a long time, but Trumpism has made this fable far more fashionable. What turned me off to Trump at least 20 years ago was his ostentatious display of wealth, supplemented by his obsessive need to festoon his real estate properties with cartoonishly gaudy gold T's. It's disheartening to watch people express admiration for such smirky vanity. "He must be good. Look how successful he is," they say.

And who could forget when Trump's acolyte, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin, took his trophy wife by the Hermes scarf and paraded her around the country in a state of perpetual gloat?

I'm realistic enough to recognize that pure egalitarianism will never happen. You simply can't level the playing field 100 percent, and let's face it, some poor people really are lazy bums or make bad decisions. But hey, you can say the same about some rich people; they just happen to have their bank accounts, or their connections to the "right" people, to fall back on when they get arrested for DUI, get fired, or get sick.

I think single-payer is probably the way to go, but Obamacare--as flawed as it was, because compromises are never perfect--was at least an attempt to start a much-needed conversation. And in the process, it managed to move the needle on a wildly imbalanced healthcare system that left a huge number of Americans fighting for their lives. Thanks to the Affordable Care Act, millions of people were finally able to see a doctor for the first time in a long time. Trump's replacement is a big step backward, and it's not even saving money.

#25 | Posted by cbob at 2018-03-03 04:58 PM | Reply

I probably should have made clear in my last post that I was responding to Danni's post #3, where she mentioned Calvinism.

#26 | Posted by cbob at 2018-03-03 05:08 PM | Reply

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