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Saturday, February 24, 2018

In the wake of yet another tragic school shooting, teachers have started an eye-opening movement on social media to let the world know what preventative measures really need to be taken seriously to protect students. In response to the recent mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, President Trump suggested that some teachers receive gun training so they can be armed in their classrooms. But rather than adding more guns to educational environments, teachers are using the hashtag #ArmMeWith to share far more peaceful resources they wish to be armed with, such as school supplies, mental health resources and funding, impactful changes in curriculum, and stronger gun control legislation.




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The movement was started by two educators: Brittany Wheaton, a teacher in Utah, and Olivia Bertels from Kansas. Both 27-year-olds met through Instagram, according to Buzzfeed, and eagerly asked the online teacher community to share their personal thoughts on how to ensure the safety and proper education of students.

Teachers across the U.S. have been using the hashtag.


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Wasn't this already posted?

OR was a seeing Snoofy talking about the lack or resources on another thread.

Hans can look up my post with all the associated links.

Here is basic talking points, and thoughts ....

We spend >$12K per pupil a year. Class size is around 20-26, so lets just say its $230,000 per class room per year.

Teachers only get about 1/4 of that, if even that...

Where is the other $150K+ going?

Take it from there, pay teachers more from that pile, and if they are still short .... I'd be happy to pay more.

But as it is, we pay more taxes, more dollars (PPP) per pupil than any country in the world, and our teachers get very little of it.

This is the appetence of the apparatchiks, the people that actually do the work get the shaft.... there's no avoiding it....

#1 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2018-02-24 02:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#1 Where is the other $150K+ going? ...

Depends upon the area.

We just got through a education budget cycle (in my town, the education budget is separate and distinct from the town's general budget), and the expenditures are rather well known.

But your comment doesn't address the issue the teachers are bring up...

They want more resources in the classrooms, not guns.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-02-24 02:33 PM | Reply

"OR was a seeing Snoofy talking about the lack or resources on another thread."


#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-24 02:48 PM | Reply


well, since you are ignorant, I'm not surprised.

1. Classroom size is not the issue, its teacher to student ratio, which is around 16:1, i.e. many classrooms have more than 1 teacher making your classroom expenditures calculation wrong.
2. Schools spend money on many programs, the most expensive include handling children with special needs, behavioral issues, and physical access issues-should those kids be forgotten? Tossed aside?
3. Schools employee a wide range of people outside of teachers including secretarial staff, principals, janitors, nurses, guidance councilors, psychiatrists, police officers, IT people, bus drivers, etc.
4. Schools need to budget for infrastructure, new schools, renovations, athletic fields, repairs, buses.
5. Schools need to buy supplies, you know like BOOKS, computers, athletic and other club type equipment, insurance, you know all the ---- that is needed on a day to day basis.

#4 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-02-24 02:59 PM | Reply


So you're against spending more tax payer monies on training and arming teachers? Or would that be an expected portion of teacher credentialing (i.e., costs rendered directly to the student teacher prior to employment).

#5 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-02-24 08:16 PM | Reply

"Or would that be an expected portion"

Expected portion, of course. But it, like license renewals, continuing education, and NEA dues, will no longer be deductible for teachers.

One burning tax question left:

Will the purchase of the gun count toward the $250 in deductible school supplies teachers bring into the classroom?

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-02-24 08:23 PM | Reply

Why should teachers do a job that the police won't?

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-02-24 09:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

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