Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Monday, February 12, 2018

President Trump proposed a budget Monday that hits the poorest Americans the hardest, slashing billions of dollars in food stamps, health insurance and federal housing subsidies while pushing legislation to institute broad work requirements for families receiving housing vouchers, expanding on moves by some states to require Medicaid and food stamp recipients to work. The Trump budget proposal would gut the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, better known as food stamps, by $17.2 billion in 2019 -- equivalent to 22 percent of the program's total cost last year. It calls for additional cuts of more than $213.5 billion over the next decade, a reduction of nearly 30 percent, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

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In addition, Trump is proposed a full-scale redesign of SNAP, which currently provides an average of $125 per month to 42.2 million Americans. For the last 40 years, the program has allowed beneficiaries to use SNAP benefits at grocery stores as if they were cash. Under the budget proposal, the Department of Agriculture would use a portion of those benefits to buy and deliver a package of U.S.-grown commodities to SNAP households each month, using the government's buying power to obtain common foods at lower costs.

"This budget proposes taking away food assistance from millions of low-income Americans -- and on the heels of a tax cut that favored the wealthy and corporations," said Stacy Dean, president for food assistance policy at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. "It doesn't reflect the right values."

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Trump's proposed budget for the 2019 fiscal year includes an 14 percent cut to HUD, amounting to $6.8 billion below the agency's current $48 billion spending, an even deeper cut than his previous year's proposal which had been the most dramatic cut to HUD since President Ronald Reagan slashed the agency's funding in the early 1980s.

Trump also proposed cutting a federal housing subsidy program, known as Section 8 vouchers, by nearly $1 billion, which Yentel said would result in more than 250,000 low-income families losing their housing assistance. The cuts would come on top of the administration's proposal to raise the rent for low-income families receiving public housing help.

On healthcare for low-income Americans, Trump's budget calls for cutting federal Medicaid funding by $250 billion over the next 10 years, as the administration envisions passing a law "modeled closely" on a Senate Republican proposal that failed last fall to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

The White House plan also calls for new per-person limits on the amount of health care each Medicaid enrollee can use, as well as tying federal spending on the program to the cost of inflation.

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 04:30 PM | Reply

Screw the poor
#MAGA

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-12 04:33 PM | Reply

"The White House plan also calls for new per-person limits on the amount of health care each Medicaid enrollee can use, as well as tying federal spending on the program to the cost of inflation."

I just wonder how those caps are going to work when it comes to seniors in nursing homes since that's where the bulk of Medicaid money goes.

#3 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 04:35 PM | Reply

Well of course it does, you must remember every dollar spent on a poor person could of been given to a rich person

Repubs despise the poor

#4 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2018-02-12 04:37 PM | Reply

"I just wonder how those caps are going to work when it comes to seniors in nursing homes"

The bad news is they get kicked to the curb.

The good news is they get to watch a military parade go by their new home.

#MAGA

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-12 04:40 PM | Reply

Is anyone surprised by this ----? Certainly not the right wing, me first, -------- who stink up this board.

#6 | Posted by squinch at 2018-02-12 06:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

I guess none of you realize the number of people receiving gov handouts is declining.

#7 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-02-12 06:07 PM | Reply

Pelosi resurfaces Trump tweet vowing no Medicaid cuts after budget that slashes Medicaid

There really is a tweet for everything.

Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump

I was the first & only potential GOP candidate to state there will be no cuts to Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid. Huckabee copied me.
8:38 AM - 7 May 2015

thehill.com

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 08:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I just wonder how those caps are going to work when it comes to seniors in nursing homes since that's where the bulk of Medicaid money goes.

#3 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

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The "bulk"? Are you taking math lessons from Goofy?

$96B/$462B = 21%, and that is for all people over 65 regardless of being in a nursing home or not. You realize "the bulk" means the majority, right?

www.kff.org

#9 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-02-12 09:32 PM | Reply

"While most Medicaid enrollees are children, pregnant women and nonelderly adults, long-term services such as nursing homes account for 42 percent of all Medicaid spending -- even though only 6 percent of Medicaid enrollees use them."

www.nytimes.com

#10 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 09:43 PM | Reply

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"While most Medicaid enrollees are children, pregnant women and nonelderly adults, long-term services such as nursing homes account for 42 percent of all Medicaid spending -- even though only 6 percent of Medicaid enrollees use them."
www.nytimes.com

#10 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

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Great link not addressing your initial claim which was "to seniors in nursing homes since that's where the bulk of Medicaid money goes". So, do you want to address the fact that all spending going to seniors is only 21% of medicaid spending? I mean, wrong is wrong and your statement is clearly wrong.

#11 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-02-12 09:47 PM | Reply

"I just wonder how those caps are going to work when it comes to seniors in nursing homes since that's where the bulk of Medicaid money goes."

I was wrong to say that the bulk of the money goes to seniors in nursing homes, because nursing homes also take care of non-seniors who are blind or disabled in some way, and Medicaid also helps seniors and the disabled who aren't in nursing homes:

In 2015, Medicaid provided health coverage for 97 million low-income Americans over the course of the year. In any given month, Medicaid served 33 million children, 27 million adults (mostly in low-income working families), 6 million seniors, and 10 million persons with disabilities, according to Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates.

Children account for more than two-fifths of Medicaid enrollees but less than one-fifth of Medicaid spending. Only slightly more than one-fifth of Medicaid enrollees are seniors or persons with disabilities, but because they need more (and more costly) health care services, they account for nearly half of Medicaid spending.

www.cbpp.org

So I will rephrase my earlier statement:

I just wonder how those caps are going to work when it comes to seniors and the disabled, both in and out of nursing homes, since that's where the bulk of Medicaid money goes.

#12 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 09:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I just wonder how those caps are going to work when it comes to seniors and the disabled, both in and out of nursing homes, since that's where the bulk of Medicaid money goes.
#12 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

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Now that you statement is correct, I will wager they will basically have zero impact. The nursing home industry is a giant scam and one that is uniquely American. Most countries view nursing homes as a very last resort and the families will work to care for them. I believe the average nursing home cost is north of $80K per year. If the cap goes down, I would assume that they would adjust their pricing structure so they don't lose their 'customers'. This is similar to college cost and ease of college financial aid.

#13 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-02-12 10:01 PM | Reply

"Great link not addressing your initial claim which was "to seniors in nursing homes since that's where the bulk of Medicaid money goes". So, do you want to address the fact that all spending going to seniors is only 21% of medicaid spending? I mean, wrong is wrong and your statement is clearly wrong."

I was wrong about it being mainly seniors being supported by Medicaid dollars in nursing homes, but I wasn't wrong about how much of the Medicaid budget goes to nursing homes:

"While most Medicaid enrollees are children, pregnant women and nonelderly adults, long-term services such as nursing homes account for 42 percent of all Medicaid spending -- even though only 6 percent of Medicaid enrollees use them."

I didn't realize how many people in nursing homes aren't seniors but are younger people who are disabled in some way. Now I know, and my question, in it's expanded form, remains.

#14 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 10:02 PM | Reply

"You realize "the bulk" means the majority, right?"

I'm not so sure.

If there were seven people, and one of them got forty bucks, and the six others got ten bucks each, I'm not sure I would think it's wrong to say that one dude with forty got the bulk of the money. He definitely got most of the money, from the perspective of anyone else who got money.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-12 10:06 PM | Reply

I guess none of you realize the number of people receiving gov handouts is declining.
#7 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Not sure why I bother. But. Citation necessary.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-02-12 10:08 PM | Reply

"The White House plan also calls for new per-person limits on the amount of health care each Medicaid enrollee can use, as well as tying federal spending on the program to the cost of inflation."

Followed by....

"I just wonder how those caps are going to work when it comes to seniors in nursing homes since that's where the bulk of Medicaid money goes."

Just imagine if the bastards you're talking about got ahold of our entire health care system if we had universal health care ie. single payer system

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-12 10:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Great link not addressing your initial claim which was "to seniors in nursing homes since that's where the bulk of Medicaid money goes"

IOW, I should have said, "to people (rather than seniors) in nursing homes since that's where the bulk of the Medicaid money goes."

#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 10:09 PM | Reply

42% and "nearly half" sounds like the bulk of the money to me.

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 10:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Just imagine if the bastards you're talking about got ahold of our entire health care system if we had universal health care ie. single payer system"

Sure. We shouldn't have guns, what if a crazy person gets a hold of one?

Perhaps you'll remember Trump's promise to not cut Medicare, and perhaps you'll allow that some people believed him.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-12 10:11 PM | Reply

"Just imagine if the bastards you're talking about got ahold of our entire health care system if we had universal health care ie. single payer system."

If they tried to do that to everybody in the country because everybody had universal health care, methinks people in the country would revolt and vote the bastards out.

#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 10:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The Trump budget proposal would gut the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, better known as food stamps

But remember poor people. Abortion is a sin!

Instead. Have children and let them starve to death.

The GOP could teach ghouls a thing or two about morbidity.

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-02-12 10:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Just imagine if the bastards you're talking about got ahold of our entire health care system if we had universal health care ie. single payer system."

The GOP knows that once the country goes to single payer, they won't be able to take it back, which means they couldn't pass their massive tax cuts for the 1%. Like Bernie always says, don't let them tell you, we don't have the money. It all depends on what our priorities as a country are.

#23 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 10:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" Like Bernie always says, don't let them tell you, we don't have the money."

Every policy the GOP advances is rooted in fake economics where something has to be cut because we don't have the money.
Except when it's an expansion of government that incurs vast expense, like MAPD or NCLB, they never mention the money.

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-12 10:24 PM | Reply

It all depends on what our priorities as a country are.

It's serving the rich.

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-02-12 10:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"If they tried to do that to everybody in the country because everybody had universal health care, methinks people in the country would revolt and vote the bastards out."

That's naive and wrong on many levels.

There are already enough people impacted by the cuts mentioned in this thread that the GOP would never get any votes to win a meaningful election.

And yet......here we are.

You're saying that if we pass single payer....the GOP is screwed?

Really? You probably said that about Obamacare. Really did the GOP in on that one, huh??

I'm not trying to make some huge point here.....just pointing out the slippery slope we could be on if we put single payer in the hands of the GOP.

#26 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-12 11:26 PM | Reply

"You're saying that if we pass single payer....the GOP is screwed?"

Why didn't Obamacare get repealed?

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-12 11:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"just pointing out the slippery slope we could be on if we put single payer in the hands of the GOP."

That's a subset of the slippery slope which you'd get when you put Trump in charge of the country; you're just making believe that we also have single-payer while Trump is in charge of the country.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-12 11:31 PM | Reply

27

So the GOP hasn't weakened, screwed with, or otherwise attempted to kill Obamacare?

#29 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-12 11:33 PM | Reply

I've never heard of universal healthcare being repealed in any country that has it. Why is that?

#30 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 11:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Is the GOP outwardly admitting they want to repeal or kill Medicare or Medicaid? No rather they want to cut it.......

And it would be the same situation with a single-payer system

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-12 11:36 PM | Reply

I still think if everyone in the country was covered by Medicare-for-All, the idea of across the board budget cuts to the program would be untenable to any candidate or political party who proposed to do it let alone carried out the proposal. IMHO. YMMV.

#32 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 11:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"And it would be the same situation with a single-payer system."

Midterms might tell a different story.

Trump won promising, among other things, to repeal Obamacare.
That turned out to be a political impossibility.
So, we kind of have evidence to work with here.

Eberly, if the pilot wants to crash the plane, it's probably going to happen.
That's why you hire good pilots.
It's not why you ban airplanes.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-12 11:44 PM | Reply

So, we kind of have evidence to work with here.

I think you have an overly optimistic view of the value of evidence.

#34 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-02-12 11:48 PM | Reply

Jesus snoofy, I didn't suggest banning anything. I'm just pointing out that single payer is a an idea I would support.....but the GOP will make trouble......trouble with a "T".

Some of you don't like the trouble the GOP causes

#35 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-12 11:50 PM | Reply

YMMV?

#36 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-12 11:51 PM | Reply

Beware of government run health care in a -------- country where 60 million voters thought Trump was a good idea.

#37 | Posted by bored at 2018-02-12 11:58 PM | Reply

37

Much better way to make my point.

#38 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-13 12:00 AM | Reply

As has been noted by some here for months, these are the safety net cuts that will be used to pay for Trump's tax cuts for himself and the corporations... and puts lie to the claims that the cuts would provide "Magic Growth" to pay for themselves.

Of course, we are so used to Trump's lies by now that there is no need to mention that he said this was something he would never do.

It's also another reason so many GOP'hers won't even bother trying to defend their seats in the mid-terms.

#39 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-13 12:02 AM | Reply

YMMV=YourMileageMayVary

#40 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-13 12:03 AM | Reply

"Beware of government run health care in a -------- country where 60 million voters thought Trump was a good idea."

They voted for a guy with no track record who promised not to cut Medicare, Medicaid or SS. I read that he plans to cut SS but only after he gets re-elected.

#41 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-13 12:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The Trump administration is proposing a major shake-up in one of the country's most important "safety net" programs, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, formerly known as food stamps. Under the proposal, most SNAP recipients would lose much of their ability to choose the food they buy with their SNAP benefits.

The proposal is included in the Trump administration budget request for fiscal year 2019. It would require approval from Congress.

Under the proposal, which was announced Monday, low-income Americans who receive at least $90 a month -- just over 80 percent of all SNAP recipients -- would get about half of their benefits in the form of a "USDA Foods package."

The package was described in the budget as consisting of "shelf-stable milk, ready to eat cereals, pasta, peanut butter, beans and canned fruit and vegetables." The boxes would not include fresh fruits or vegetables."

www.npr.org

Another way to reduce safety net costs; kill off the users with highly processed foods.

#42 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-13 12:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I've never heard of universal healthcare being repealed in any country that has it. Why is that?
#30 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

A clear lack of understanding how government funded programs work in enslaving people to the government and its subsidies .....

Look up tragedy of the commons, its not much different.

Who runs a national healthcare system with an open border, no country does that, Why is that?

#43 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2018-02-13 12:11 AM | Reply

The package was described in the budget as consisting of "shelf-stable milk, ready to eat cereals, pasta, peanut butter, beans and canned fruit and vegetables." The boxes would not include fresh fruits or vegetables."

Wow, I was wondering what they were planning to give people. Sounds awful. Shelf-stable milk? Canned fruit and vegetables? I never ate them, but after reading up on nutrition when I had cancer, I wouldn't recommend them to anybody else either.

#44 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-13 12:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I would recommend them to mAndrea.

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-13 12:19 AM | Reply

Who was born on third base with a silver foot in his mouth.

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-13 12:26 AM | Reply

Processed peanut butter is also bad for you because of the hydrogenated oil. I remember reading something about some food stamp programs working with farmers markets to get fresh fruit and produce to recipients. That's the direction they should go if they want to help people eat better.

#47 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-13 12:27 AM | Reply

That's the direction they should go if they want to help people eat better.

Tried that with school lunches... was an attack on Freedom!

#48 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-02-13 12:37 AM | Reply

Eberly, I get your point, but it's not quite like there isn't an established medical infrastructure we currently spend 18% of GDP on which will resist any change, including the order to kill a bunch of people because the crazy President said so.

Once the mandate of health care is legislated, the implementation necessarily falls to certain judicial interpretations of necessary care, etc., and you'll be able to advance a claim demonstrating harm if these cuts happen, is my more realistic response to your doom and gloom.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-13 12:48 AM | Reply

Who runs a national healthcare system with an open border, no country does that, Why is that?
#43 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

You're mentally impaired, right?

Based on your posts. It seems you are.

#50 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-02-13 12:53 AM | Reply

I'm betting Andrea has a bigger "man hood" than Trump, not by much though, just a millimeter or 2.

#51 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-02-13 02:04 AM | Reply

The problem with our government is it allows people who hate the government and feel it's worthless, to work in the government. Where they literally sabotaged and destroyed it.

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-02-13 02:15 AM | Reply

I've never heard of universal healthcare being repealed in any country that has it. Why is that?

#30 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

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Because no entitlement program has ever been repealed once it is put in place in the history of government would be my guess. This is part buying votes on behalf of those covered by the entitlements and then corporate interests figuring out how they profit buying off the other side as well. What has happened in countries with universal care is that people that actually want quality care have to buy private insurance on top of the universal care, so, pay for their medical care twice. Sort of like how every Dem politician wants to keep expanding public school spending but then they all use private schools because they know the public schools suck.

#53 | Posted by Rex_Buyt at 2018-02-13 03:02 AM | Reply

"This is part buying votes on behalf of those covered by the entitlements"

those covered being everyone.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-13 03:20 AM | Reply

"The problem with our government is it allows people who hate the government and feel it's worthless, to work in the government. Where they literally sabotaged and destroyed it."

Maybe. But it's justified when the government also allows people to work in government who see government as a tool to control and manipulate society when society does not behave in a manner that is deemed ideologically acceptable.

#55 | Posted by madbomber at 2018-02-13 07:34 AM | Reply

"those covered being everyone."

...And those paying for the entitlements being less than everyone.

#56 | Posted by madbomber at 2018-02-13 07:35 AM | Reply

"And those paying for the entitlements being less than everyone."

MY payroll tax overcollections went to finance YOUR income tax cut.

Either STFU, or at least pay lip service to the truth.

#57 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-02-13 07:52 AM | Reply

If you work you pay SS and Medicare tax. Using the word "entitlement" to describe that program helps Frank Luntz earn his living. Luntz the wordmaster of Republican BS.

#58 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-02-13 09:10 AM | Reply

I have an online friend in England who was recently diagnosed with cancer, had surgery and is waiting to heal enough to receive chemo therapy. So far she is happy with, and grateful for, her treatment and the doctors and nurses she is working with through the national healthcare system. I hope she continues to have a successful healing journey.

#59 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-13 09:37 AM | Reply

Next the republiclowns are going to be complaining about seeing them all the time... living on the streets begging for money ... all dirty and smelly... whining about how they need to dress better... join a nice country club ...

#60 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2018-02-13 09:52 AM | Reply

Who was born on third base with a silver foot in his mouth.

#46 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2018-02-13 12:26 AM | FLAG: OH!

That explains the heel spurs I guess....

#61 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2018-02-13 09:54 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

"The problem with our government is it allows people who hate the government and feel it's worthless, to work in the government. Where they literally sabotaged and destroyed it."

I don't think that adequately describes the vast majority of federal employees. and by that, I mean 95%+

#62 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-13 09:57 AM | Reply

Bulk prescription drug purchases for discount prices?

YAY!

Bulk food purchases for discount prices?

BOO!

#63 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2018-02-13 09:58 AM | Reply

A clear lack of understanding how government funded programs work in enslaving people to the government and its subsidies

YEAH! Much better those families of soldiers starve than be enslaved to a debit card for food!

#64 | Posted by 726 at 2018-02-13 12:13 PM | Reply

Thanks for defending the country soldiers, here's a big ---- you if you want to eat.

www.marketplace.org

#65 | Posted by 726 at 2018-02-13 12:15 PM | Reply

Who runs a national healthcare system with an open border, no country does that, Why is that?

#43 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Apparently you've never heard of the EU. And we don't have any "open borders".
Most undocumented people today are arriving legally by airplane and "forgetting" to go back home, so the big beautiful wall is not going to stop that. There is no country that is impossible to sneak into. However, other countries do make it damn near impossible for them to find work. They do that by punishing businesses that hire them. Something cons won't allow here because "freedom" (to exploit people). The real story is if they were, say given "amnesty", business would have to pay them the same wages Americans get, eliminating the benefit of hiring them. Yay, capitalism!

#66 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2018-02-13 12:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"those covered being everyone."

...And those paying for the entitlements being less than everyone.
#56 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER"

Damn those non-paying entitled babies!
Babies are destroying America's future!!!

#67 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-13 12:19 PM | Reply

Earth ends tomorrow, "Women, children and minorities hardest hit"--NYT

#68 | Posted by homerj at 2018-02-13 01:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I love how we need to cut spending so we slash anything good for people by 20%+. Meanwhile we reduce taxes on corporations and increase military spending to the point the deficit after all the cuts is still higher than ever.

It's a nice trick because now they set us up for more cuts next year because spending is still too high.

#69 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2018-02-13 01:33 PM | Reply

A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members.
--Mahatma Gandhi

I have an idea.

Let's Make America Great!

#70 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-02-13 01:55 PM | Reply

Interesting quote Donner. That may apply to India. It has never applied to the US. We are about strength and pushing our strength into the faces of the weak. You're an American Indian? We kill you. You are black? We make you a slave, and when that no long flies we grudgingly give you "rights" with "all deliberate speed". You are a woman? We pay you less money and treat you like an object. You are an immigrant? We hate you and blame you for all our problems.

America elects people who pretend to be "strong" (albeit in a cartoonish sort of way) like Trump and Reagan and GWB. America reviles our leaders who actually do care about our weakest members. (Think Jimmy Carter.)

#71 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-02-13 02:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

^^^THIS!

#72 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2018-02-13 02:14 PM | Reply

71

I don't know how you get by in life with such a pathetic and miserable outlook on our country in such a ------ view towards many Americans

#73 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-13 02:21 PM | Reply

"Interesting quote Donner. That may apply to India."

I disagree... it is a universal thought.

Ok... So maybe this quote will get thru to your western only oriented brain...

I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 4

4 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying,

Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.-Jesus

#74 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-02-13 02:32 PM | Reply

I love you Eberly. We should go on a road trip together. You, me, Boaz and Corky. It will be the most miserable experience in the history of misery. And let's also invite Tadowe, if he's available.

#75 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-02-13 02:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

I love you Eberly. We should go on a road trip together. You, me, Boaz and Corky. It will be the most miserable experience in the history of misery. And let's also invite Tadowe, if he's available.

#75 | POSTED BY MODER8

Tadowe would probably spend the weekend calling you all a bunch of lying crapweasels. You'd probably need Barnabas to set him straight.

#76 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-13 02:42 PM | Reply

You're in denial of history? What part of what MODER8 posted is not true? We (as a country, not any specific individual), did practically eliminate (i.e., "kill") the native population, did engage in slavery of Africans, did engage in legal Jim Crow discrimination until 100 years after emancipation, continues to discriminate against blacks with unequal justice, does pay women less than men and does objectify them, and do view Reagan and Trump as strong and Carter as weak. So what did he get wrong?

It is neither pathetic nor miserable to be aware of one's faults. How else can one get better?

#77 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2018-02-13 02:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

--Tadowe would probably spend the weekend calling you all a bunch of lying crapweasels

And puling hypocrites. Bring back Tadowe! Make the Retort great again!

#78 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-02-13 02:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#77 | POSTED BY WHODAMAN

Well stated. NW

#79 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-13 02:50 PM | Reply

#73 because the 15% or so of Americans who aren't fat, entitled, lazy greedy ---- bags makes it alright.

About 85% of this country's population serve the sole function of consuming enough to keep our economy afloat.

#80 | Posted by jpw at 2018-02-13 02:50 PM | Reply

75

How do you imagine a trip like that. But you never know could be fun

#81 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-13 03:04 PM | Reply

#81 The only thing that could make that road trip better would be to invite Frank Cotton along to drive. Although, I can see him wrecking the car, jumping out to rip off the antenna and beating someone unconscious with it.

#82 | Posted by Reagan58 at 2018-02-13 03:09 PM | Reply

"What part of what MODER8 posted is not true?"

Every presidential candidate that get votes gets them because the person voting for them believes they are strong. Not just Republicans

YOU Believed Obama was strong. You believed Clinton was strong. Both of them. You will believe the next democrat is strong.

Perception of strength as I everybody wins elections.

#83 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-13 03:09 PM | Reply

"I don't know how you get by in life with such a pathetic and miserable outlook on our country in such a ------ view towards many Americans
#73 | POSTED BY EBERLY"

He probably gets by the same way you do, seeing as you think 95% of Federal employees are total ------- losers.

#84 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-13 03:18 PM | Reply

- puling hypocrites

Was Tadowe and Nulli's Safe Word.

#85 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-13 03:42 PM | Reply

95% of Federal employees are total ------- losers.

98 percent.

#86 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2018-02-13 04:02 PM | Reply

"MY payroll tax overcollections went to finance YOUR income tax cut."

Also known as paying your "fair share", isn't it?

#87 | Posted by madbomber at 2018-02-13 05:37 PM | Reply

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