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Wednesday, February 14, 2018

The White House on Monday unveiled President Donald Trump's long-awaited infrastructure plan that aims to rehabilitate the nation's roads, bridges, tunnels, and more. The plan will include $200 billion in federal funding over the next 10 years, and it aims to raise up to $1.5 trillion total by incentivizing investment from state and local governments as well as private firms. Here's a breakdown of how that would be spent: $100 billion would be used as direct grants to local governments to help trigger investment. $50 billion would go to projects in rural areas in the form of block grants. $20 billion to large projects that can "lift the American spirit." $30 billion for miscellaneous existing infrastructure programs. The funding proposal is a departure from typical spending on infrastructure, as the federal government usually covers a bulk of the cost. The Trump plan would see local governments taking on 80% or more of the funding burden.

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"This is not a real infrastructure plan -- it's simply another scam, an attempt by this administration to privatize critical government functions, and create windfalls for their buddies on Wall Street," Rep. Peter DeFazio, the top Democrat on the House Transportation Committee, said Sunday.

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#1 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-02-12 11:33 AM | Reply

Oooohhh public private partnerships where the private enterprise ends up massively rich and shafts the public on the job.

What a stupid plan.

#2 | Posted by 726 at 2018-02-12 12:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In Virginia, the road will be real nice right until you get to the WV state line.

Like it's always been.

#3 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-02-12 12:11 PM | Reply

The Trump plan would see local governments taking on 80% or more of the funding burden.

yea, that'll happen

#4 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-02-12 12:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"In Virginia, the road will be real nice right until you get to the WV state line.
Like it's always been."

I'm not familiar with the reference. Is it safe to assume that it's just another dig at Dems?

#5 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-02-12 07:53 PM | Reply

Oooohhh public private partnerships where the private enterprise ends up massively rich and shafts the public on the job.

What a stupid plan.

#2 | Posted by 726

So, who installs the cable for the internet? How about 4g cell coverage? It damn sure isn't any government agency. Try to think before you post. I know it is tough but give it a try.

#6 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-02-13 01:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

By the way 7, what about the electric grid? Government?

#7 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-02-13 01:13 PM | Reply

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So building infrastructure including highways is now a bad thing?

#8 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-13 02:29 PM | Reply

#8 shovel ready jerbs!

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-13 02:32 PM | Reply

#8 shovel ready jerbs!

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-13 02:32 PM | Reply

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"So, who installs the cable for the internet? How about 4g cell coverage? It damn sure isn't any government agency."

So, who grants cable franchise areas and auctions cell phone spectrum? The government.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-13 02:34 PM | Reply

So building infrastructure including highways is now a bad thing?
#8 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Depends on how much the tolls are to cover the costs, don't you think?

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2018-02-14 11:25 PM | Reply

So building infrastructure including highways is now a bad thing?
#8 | Posted by eberly a

Where is the $1.3 Trillion dollar difference coming from?

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-02-14 11:28 PM | Reply

Im somebody who works with a lot of municipal and county governments. The thought that they will do massive public works projects for a 13% match is ridiculous.

#14 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-02-14 11:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So, pretend to miss my point with questions?

I can't answer the $1.3T question and I don't know if they are toll roads.

But neither does Frankie. He just squawked like a ---- unaware he cheered infrastructure when obama was funding it.

#15 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-14 11:44 PM | Reply

"So, pretend to miss my point with questions?"

Just framing it, really.
Infrastructure... at 13% Federal match is a bad thing, because it won't get done.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-14 11:46 PM | Reply

16

I can't disagree with that.

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-14 11:50 PM | Reply

Infrastructure... at 13% Federal match is a bad thing, because it won't get done.
#16 | Posted by snoofy

and if it does get done its because a private funding source saw this as an opportunity to make money by high fees to users.

#18 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-02-14 11:52 PM | Reply

Eb

it's simple

Trumps plan is to fund $1.5 Trillion with the Feds kicking in $200Billion.

Where is the $1.3 Trillion difference coming from?

Municipal, County and State taxes? Yes some-though i would argue that most local and county governments cant afford major utility projects with only a 13% match. BTW 13% comes from $2B/$1.5T.

So for projects to actually happen, private entities will HAVE to get involved where they get the 13% match and build the utility but as private entities, they will only do it if is profitable, i.e. tolls or high fees to consumers.

#19 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-02-14 11:55 PM | Reply

I see. I just suspect they won't happen unless the match is richer than 13%.

#20 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-15 12:00 AM | Reply

#17 you've got to put your back in it!

When I lived in Seattle, We The People voted to build a Monorail.
It was stillborn because the Federal funding was never going to be there; the County and State who had their own plans made sure of it, and theirs is the Light Rail system Seattle finally got.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-15 12:01 AM | Reply

Here's an example

The Ben Franklin Bridge is operated by something called the Delaware River Port Authority. The DRPA is funded through tolls.

Say they need $ to refurbish the bridge and get it from this federal fund. They either have to come up with 87% of the costs, raise tolls or have a private entity come in and manage their budget for them i.e. increase tolls.

#22 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-02-15 12:01 AM | Reply

I see. I just suspect they won't happen unless the match is richer than 13%.
#20 | Posted by eberly

That's why Trump's plan is an unprecedented threat, cause it isn't how things work, which will ugly in taxes and costs is FAR better than the alternative.

America would be WAY better off with the feds spending $5Trillon on infrastructure itself. Think of the jobs and boom in economy. Unfortunately people don't trust the bureaucracy.

#23 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-02-15 12:03 AM | Reply

"will" should be "while"

#24 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-02-15 12:04 AM | Reply

It's a "starve the beast" plan for infrastructure.
And the no-bid contract to someone nobody's never heard of with no experience or history, that's the Trump cherry on top!

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-15 12:08 AM | Reply

#6, sniper,

You are clueless to how much better the service and rates are in other parts of the world. In the EU ALL cell phone companies share towers, here they file lawsuits against each other over tower access. In the EU there is NO EXTRA CHARGE for texting, internet use or roaming overseas, services that cost me $1200 once for one month. $40 in the EU for the same thing. See what those damn socialists do for you.

In Indiana Wall Street's imposed tolls are so steep no one uses their f#&king toll road. We really need a $5-6 trillion program, self funded, which the Federal Government has the authority to do. There is no reason to let Wall Street control the financing and impose a $22 trillion rip-off.

#26 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-02-15 07:32 AM | Reply

It was the Federal Government that built the infrastructure with Federal $ in the first place: schools, bridges, dams, and roads. It was also a massive jobs program at a time the economy was in the tank and unemployment was sky high. It was an investment. It paid back an ROI that we still benefit from today. Building and repairing infrastructure is work that can't be "offshored" and pays a lot more than the "service economy". Conservatives are supposed to understand investment, no? Businesses have to invest in order to be successful; so do governments.

#27 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2018-02-15 03:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#27 +1

#28 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-02-15 11:42 PM | Reply

Now the liberals are against infrastructure because Trump.

That is going to go over great in voters in Trump's Red Wall. Union voters in IA, WI, MI, OH, PA. I remember when the left pretended to care about those guys. Ah, the memories.

#29 | Posted by WhiteDevil at 2018-02-16 03:18 AM | Reply

He is actually cutting $50 billion from infrastructure spending because is he cutting $250 billion in infrastructure spending elsewhere.

#30 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-02-16 11:18 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Now the liberals are against infrastructure because Trump.
#29 | POSTED BY WHITEDEVIL

I know you aren't smart so I'll use really really small words.

Liberals know this won't work. Conservatives know this won't work. Economists know this won't work. But Trump voters like you are stupid enough to believe it will work. And that makes you feel special.

#31 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-02-16 11:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"That is going to go over great in voters in Trump's Red Wall."

Whitedevil is calling the people of those states stupid, pretending they won't notice that the vast majority of the money to be spent is to come directly from the state and local governments and that the federal funds will actually be less than they are now. OR private funds might be found, in which case, get used to paying tolls everywhere you go.

#32 | Posted by danni at 2018-02-16 11:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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