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Monday, February 12, 2018

Even Steve Bannon recognizes that female voters will punish the President for his cavalier dismissal of assault and abuse allegations.

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Trump's cruel and clueless remarks are of a piece with the tactics he has used to tamp down all his other scandals, miscues, and embarrassments. Just as he tries to divert attention from his, and his circle's, errors and wrongdoing in the Russia scandal by shouting "fake news," by casting blame on the F.B.I. and the Justice Department, and by deploying a congressional lackey like Devin Nunes, he diverts attention from his own encyclopedic record of miserable behavior toward women by casting doubt on the accusers. This is a neat trick, yet hardly original. It has come to the point when even Trump's closest aides know that a reckoning is coming. It's not going to be O.K.

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Ordinary people experience reckonings throughout life, secondary to disaster's or their own poor behavior.

There's nothing to expect that Trump has the character to handle this for him, novel event.

This is something we should worry about.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-12 09:33 AM | Reply

Hillary's reckoning was pretty sweet, but Donald's could be epic.

I sure hope dem's have more of a plan than just screaming.

....but I know better.

#2 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-02-12 11:25 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

The Dems published a plan, but swing state voters picked the screamer instead.
Hopefully voters realize the GOP wants increased welfare for defense contractors, expanded police state, more war, more debt, slashed taxes for the 1%, neutered environment and consumer protection and gutted Medicare/Medicaid and SS. The GOP infrastructure plan is a joke, as is the family leave proposal. The wall won't keep out rapists, they are already infesting positions of authority including POTUS.

Times up.

#3 | Posted by bored at 2018-02-12 01:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

not that great of a article....just an opinion piece...really a "wish" piece.

And it should be re-titled "A reckoning with conservative women awaits". That's where it's at. Nobody, including Trump, gives 2 ----- if liberal women, already disgusted with Trump, won't vote for him...that's a certainty.

But the author may be right...and I hope he is.

#4 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-12 02:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Hopefully voters realize the GOP wants increased welfare for defense contractors, expanded police state, more war, more debt, slashed taxes for the 1%, neutered environment and consumer protection and gutted Medicare/Medicaid and SS"

you forgot starving the children and pushing grannies off the cliff.......LOL

It's not that you're wrong but read what you wrote. That's the same stuff hung around the necks of the GOP presidential candidates since Reagan. It may be true but that message is not how you beat the GOP.

#5 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-12 02:13 PM | Reply

Roy Moore was a bridge too far for some GOP women but only some of them. Of course, all Dems need is for some of them to cut ties with Trump and his GOP enablers in Congress.

#6 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 02:17 PM | Reply

Everything about Trump's attitude toward women was publically known before November 2016.

#7 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-02-12 03:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Everything about Trump's attitude toward women was publically known before November 2016.

#7 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-02-12 03:07

Everything about Trump was known publically prior to November 2016.

Makes you realize how willfully stupid some people are, right?

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-12 03:14 PM | Reply

There is on big societal difference now than when Trump ran in 2016: Because of the #MeToo movement, some wealthy, powerful men are no longer getting away with sexual harassment and sexual assault (e.g. Weinstein & Wynn). I don't know if that will make a difference in the way Trump is regarded or not.

#9 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 03:18 PM | Reply

Everything about Trump was known publically prior to November 2016.
Makes you realize how willfully stupid some people are, right?

#8 | POSTED BY ZED

It illustrates how brutally horrible of a candidate Hillary was.

#10 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-12 03:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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It illustrates how brutally horrible of a candidate Hillary was.

#10 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-12 03:18 PM | Reply

This has never been a rational idea. There was nothing so bad about Clinton to justify what we have now.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-12 03:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Hatred of women...If there were no such thing, Donald wouldn't be president. And, obviously, there would be no Me Too.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-12 03:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"It illustrates how brutally horrible of a candidate Hillary was."

sigh She had how many more votes than Trump? She lost by 80,000 votes in 3 states. That means if she had gotten 45,000 more votes in those states, she would have beaten Trump by approximately 3 million votes.

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 03:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It illustrates how brutally horrible of a people Trunp voters are.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-12 03:39 PM | Reply

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so what? she should have kicked Trump's ass up and down the electoral college.

Have we ever successfully branded a candidate for POTUS as a racist? I think we did with Trump.

What about as a misogynist? Again, Trump was hit with it hard...and deservedly so.

Business ethics? LOL.....Trump was hammered with this stuff and Hillary couldn't manage to beat his ass especially in the swing states.

I would suggest stop making such a big deal about Hillary winning by large margins in NY and California. Every dem has that advantage.

#15 | Posted by eberly at 2018-02-12 03:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#15 When you label half odf the electorate as deplorables you sink your ship. It was her 47% moment.

#16 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-02-12 03:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

My point is that she lost by 80,000 votes in 3 states. She had almost 3 million more in the popular vote. You all act like she lost by 3 million votes in the poplar vote when you gloat about her loss and Trump's victory.

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 03:48 PM | Reply

Who was the last Democrat who won the popular vote by 3 million votes? Seriously asking cause I don't know. Did Obama?

#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 03:50 PM | Reply

"When you label half odf the electorate as deplorables you sink your ship. It was her 47% moment."

Yeah, she corrected that to only some Trump voters being deplorabes (the White Supremacists & she was right about them), but it was too late.

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 03:51 PM | Reply

Barack Obama (Incumbent) Democratic 65,915,795
Mitt Romney Republican 60,933,504
Gary Johnson Libertarian 1,275,971

#20 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-02-12 03:52 PM | Reply

TY, Laura. I remember Gore losing the EC and winning the popular vote, but I don't think it was by 3 million votes?

#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 03:54 PM | Reply

George Walker Bush Republican 50,462,412
Albert Arnold Gore, Jr. Democratic 50,999,897
Ralph Nader Green 2,882,955

#22 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-02-12 03:54 PM | Reply

Barack Hussein Obama 69,498,516
John Sidney McCain 59,948,323

#23 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 03:57 PM | Reply

#22 Oh boy, that one was a squeaker.

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 03:58 PM | Reply

Yep

#25 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-02-12 03:58 PM | Reply

"There is on big societal difference now than when Trump ran in 2016: Because of the #MeToo movement"

The #MeToo movement effectively died the day it ate Al Franken. Nobody outside the fringe bubble is taking it seriously anymore.

#26 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-02-12 04:21 PM | Reply

It's no secret I think the #MeToo movement has gone too far, and especially as it relates to Franken. That said, the fall of Weinstein and Wynn is real enough. So was the defeat of Roy Moore.

#27 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 04:33 PM | Reply

"Makes you realize how willfully stupid some people are, right?"

Bobcat, do you know anyone who suffers from mental illness and contemplates suicide or self harm? Would you call them stupid?

#28 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-02-12 04:33 PM | Reply

It's no secret I think the #MeToo movement has gone too far, and especially as it relates to Franken. That said, the fall of Weinstein and Wynn is real enough. So was the defeat of Roy Moore.

Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 04:33 PM | Reply

Gut says Republicans set up the Franken mess.

#29 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-02-12 04:40 PM | Reply

"It illustrates how brutally horrible of a candidate Hillary was."

Both Hillary and her running mate were actually good candidates on paper. They were really lousy campaigners, didn't come across at all well on television, were tone deaf and overconfident, and worst of all kept silent while the extreme left were running amok and attacking anyone and everyone who wasn't to the left of her. The people who can't acknowledge this are in a deep denial, either that or they're really so ignorant and uneducated that they really don't know the national popular vote is irrelevant in presidential elections.

2016 Electoral vote:
Donald Trump 56.5%
Hill Clinton 42.2%
Others 1.3%

#30 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-02-12 05:00 PM | Reply

"They were really lousy campaigners" - #30 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-02-12 05:00 PM

They were horrible candidates and campaigners.

"...the national popular vote is irrelevant in presidential elections."

The Electoral College is the mechanism by which a president is elected. The popular vote is the expression of the will of the people. That hardly makes the popular vote irrelevant.

"2016 Electoral vote"

There have been 58 presidential elections since the founding of our country. Two were decided by the House of Representatives. Of the remaining 56 elections, 45 had a larger margin of victory in the Electoral College than the margin in 2016.

46th out of 56 is hardly anyone's idea of a "landslide."

#31 | Posted by Hans at 2018-02-12 05:16 PM | Reply

Derp.

#32 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-02-12 05:24 PM | Reply

If women don't like who Trump is and what he does they had better get out and vote. I'm not all that fond of the Ds but right now voting for them is the only way to vote against Trump. Rs have embraced Trump with all their might. Even Rs who may not like him strengthen his position just by helping give him a majority in CONgress.

#33 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2018-02-12 05:35 PM | Reply

"Gut says Republicans set up the Franken mess."

Mine too, and Dems like Gillibrand fell for it hook, line and sinker.

#34 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-12 08:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

^THIS

#35 | Posted by e1g1 at 2018-02-12 10:57 PM | Reply

Women voted for Trump before and they knew everything about him. Why would Trump, or anyone, care what women think? They'll vote for whatever their husband tells them to.

Until that changes this author is delusional.

#36 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-02-12 11:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Dems like Gillibrand fell for it hook, line and sinker."

They wouldn't have "fallen" for it if they weren't already predisposed to a zero tolerance, witch hunt mentality.

#37 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-02-13 10:38 AM | Reply

They wouldn't have "fallen" for it if they weren't already predisposed to a zero tolerance, witch hunt mentality.

And/or if they weren't trying to score political points, take out a potential 2020 presidential race rival, and lay the groundwork work for being able to call out Trump without the inevitable "whataboutFranken" question being raised by the media.

#38 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-13 10:43 AM | Reply

Trump lives in a world where there are no negative consequences until AFTER due process is completed and even then he can just write a check and make it go away.

In the real world we have almost 1 million Americans in Jail awaiting trials who are all supposedly presumed innocent until and unless they are convicted but jail does not treat people awaiting trial any differently from those convicted.

It is a crime that we let white collar criminals live at home while they go through the trial process while someone accused of shoplifting will be held in jail

#39 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-02-13 11:01 AM | Reply

#15 When you label half odf the electorate as deplorables you sink your ship. It was her 47% moment.
#16 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2018-02-12 03:43 PM | REPLY | NEWSWORTHY 3

Disagree. They weren't offended by that. And their vote wasn't up in the air until that point. They wore it as a badge of honor.

#40 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2018-02-13 11:39 AM | Reply

Are we still arguing the toxic 2016 election? Let's just bury that ---- in the backyard and move on.

#41 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-02-13 11:47 AM | Reply

"Disagree. They weren't offended by that."

Lots of people who voted third party, who stayed home and didn't vote, and even who voted for Clinton were offended by that.

#42 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-02-13 12:04 PM | Reply

#41, good luck with that. People are stuck in the same mentality they had after Gore's loss and feel like they need to test whether repeating the same behaviors will yield a different result.

#43 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-02-13 12:10 PM | Reply

At least after the 2000 election we liberals and Democrats were united in pointing out that it was a Republican Supreme Court that unjustly handed the election to GWB. This time around the progressive liberals and the institutional Party supporters have been at each others throats non-stop over whether Sanders or HRC was to blame for the fiasco. Well, it's for it to stop. No point is being made. Nobody is being convinced of anything. Let's move on already.

#44 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-02-13 01:48 PM | Reply

No point is being made. Nobody is being convinced of anything. Let's move on already.
#44 | POSTED BY MODER8

Sorry, but she refuses to go away. - www.newsweek.com

They don't listen. They never learn. They'll repeat it until it werks.

Ask Corky, he's all in.

#45 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-02-13 01:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dem's already blaming 2018 on Russia - abcnews.go.com

Lol

#46 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-02-13 02:06 PM | Reply

"A Reckoning with Women Awaits Trump"

When told this Trump's first reaction was to take off his pants.

#47 | Posted by Tor at 2018-02-13 02:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Dem's already blaming 2018 on Russia - abcnews.go.com" - #46 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-02-13 02:06 PM

Not a single Democrat was quoted in that linked article.

When all you have are lies then lying's all you can do.

#48 | Posted by Hans at 2018-02-13 02:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dem's already blaming 2018 on Russia

#46 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Donald does not intend to protect us from Russia.

#49 | Posted by Zed at 2018-02-13 02:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Hillary's reckoning was pretty sweet, but Donald's could be epic.
I sure hope dem's have more of a plan than just screaming.
....but I know better.

#2 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2018-02-12 11:25 AM | FLAG: | FUNNY: 1

While I think many of your posts are unhelpful to the cause, I can't disagree with your point about the need to present a real case for the Democrats and not just grouse about Trump.

#50 | Posted by cbob at 2018-02-14 09:29 AM | Reply

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